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Episode: 450
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Title: HPR0450: TiT Radio 009 - peggy, piggy, and pat
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Source: https://hub.hackerpublicradio.org/ccdn.php?filename=/eps/hpr0450/hpr0450.mp3
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Transcribed: 2025-10-07 20:55:42
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Truth is stranger than a picture, and this is the truth. This is replays. Believe it or not.
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King Henry II of England in a campaign to wipe out Robert Barons, destroyed 1115 castles. They leave it or not.
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In a moment I'll tell you about a gruesome wedding ceremony.
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In a moment I'll tell you about a gruesome wedding ceremony.
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In a moment I'll tell you about a gruesome wedding ceremony.
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In a moment I'll tell you about a gruesome wedding ceremony.
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In a moment I'll tell you about a gruesome wedding ceremony.
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In a moment I'll tell you about a gruesome wedding ceremony.
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In a moment I'll tell you about a gruesome wedding ceremony.
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In a moment I'll tell you about a gruesome wedding ceremony.
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If the wedding announcement appeared in the local newspapers there's no question it would be the news story of the day.
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For Elizabeth Kelsey and Jonathan Titus were married in a graveyard.
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It seems that day before the Salisbury Vermont couple were to be wed the bride's brother died.
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It was decided however that the late brother would attend the wedding anyway.
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So the couple exchanged their wedding vows beside his open grave.
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They leave it or not.
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Hello everyone welcome to Tit Radio Episode 9.
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The only show in heikern public radio with supertime powers.
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Let's meet around Table of tips.
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Clot 2.
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Peter 64.
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Art v61.
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You doing everybody?
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Pat.
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330
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howdy howdy
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and everyone's favorite
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midget and stuntman
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peg wall
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look it's hard fit into the cannon man
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and we are on hacker public radio
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and i just want to mention
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uh... hello
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uh... you're on
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hello
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i thought you were missing again
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no i'm kind of busy at the moment
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i'm still
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sitting on the white computer
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even doing that for two hours
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i just want to start
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because i wanted to make sure he else is squared away
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i hope you backed up everything
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first rule
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so if you done best
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in the fine day
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you didn't have
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linux on your wash computer
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you said it scared the shit out of anybody
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alright
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okay that's the joke
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joke and that's the joke
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hello
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okay a few people in the IRC
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were over the last couple months we've been doing the show
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they've been asking about the august
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i want to let everyone know
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this show will be the first aug
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so if you go to titradio.info
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and underneath the cow
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and click on feedback
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there will be
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an mp3 feed
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the hpr feed
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the augurbis feed and iTunes
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so i think we got everybody covered there
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and
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it's going to be nice when people don't have to wait
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like three or four weeks for the show
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you know they can get it right away
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to hacker public radio
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who doesn't subscribe to hacker public radio
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come on
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a lot of people i talk to say they
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they just download what they want to download
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what looks interesting to them
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that is true
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so that way they don't have to like sit there and wait
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just as soon as i post it they can get it
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yeah
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okay and i just want to mention one thing real quick
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this is hot off the press
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there's going to be a wedding
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at Ohio Linux best
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on friday
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September 25th
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around 5 p.m
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and i just want to say congratulations to ranny
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no enluy
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good for you
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you getting married each other
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yes wonderful
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i didn't know what gay marriage was legal in a Ohio
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i don't know if it's legal or nothing
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they're doing it
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i don't know all the details
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but that's all i really know
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so you guys go for it
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good for you
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all right you want to kick it off
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what too
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I will. We're starting with a storage, right, but not the command of the week.
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Yeah, we'll do the command of the week later. That's our new segment.
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Okay. Yes, actually I do want to take it off then. With Qt 4.6 being released, which
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isn't like yesterday is news, but it's kind of developing news. I think it might have
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been released earlier this month, a little bit earlier this month. But the cool thing
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about Qt 4.6 is that it's going to be multi-touch, so that things like MAMO and I guess even
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Symbian. I guess any touch surface that runs Linux could take advantage of multi-touch
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shittiness, which is really cool. Very cool. Is it in Fadoria or in the repo?
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No, I don't think anything's taking advantage of 4.6 yet. That's like a really obvious
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question that I didn't actually think to look, but I'm pretty sure that the KDE 4.4 I
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would think would be based on 4.6. I'm not really sure. I don't keep up as well as
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I probably should with what version of Qt KDE is using from release to release. But I
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know that 4.6 is adding support for like the latest. I mean obviously Qt is multi-platform,
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so you've got like OS 10 just came out with no leopard. So Qt 4.6 has support for that
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for the latest features I guess, or I guess the latest system calls or whatever for that.
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And then Qt 4.6 is from what I understand running really well on Windows 7 for people
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who are installing like Conqueror on Windows 7 and stuff like that. So it's really, I
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just like the whole Qt project. I think it's really, really cool multi-platform. The more
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I hear about it, the more I'm impressed with the way that it apparently just works on
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all the different systems that you're writing software for.
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What I want to know is how many views do the Qt 4 dance? That was a great song, but
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I admit I have not done the Qt 4 dance myself.
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It's a catchy tune. Super catchy. It was wonderful marketing, I guess. There is a really
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great tutorial on some Qt stuff on tuxradar.com. They've got a coding project where you can
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use Qt Creator to make a front end for FF impact, which is kind of nifty. And it'll kind
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of show you around Qt Creator. You can download the source code, kind of look through it,
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try to understand vaguely what you're doing. It's a pretty cool little project. I want
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to do that and send it to someone who uses Mac and see if it'll magically run on there
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and how hard it would be to get it running on there and stuff like that. I think it would
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be pretty cool.
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So, Qt 2, have you exhausted your discussion on Qt 4?
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Yes, I think so. Pretty much all I had for that topic.
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Okay, I have a non-story. Carlos Schroeder, one of the editors from Linux today, she
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posted this story about sexism and FAS. She claims that it's really bad. She says that
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there's only 1.5% of participants are women in FAS software. She says sexism is rampant.
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Even women, she sites the issue with Linux Journal with the ad saying that she won't go
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down on you like the server ad, the infamous ad. She also lists some mailing list postings
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and some forum postings. All I have to say is yeah, it's a source of such party. If
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you go to most of the time, when you go to Linux, that is changing slowly as far as stupid
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people on IRC and mailing list and forums, welcome to the internet.
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Okay, it's more like welcome to life. There's sexist everywhere.
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Yeah, I mean, I don't know. I've never seen some big cat act in a photo tool, but then
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again, I don't have a pair of tips. So, there's some, some, some porny geek who, you know,
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who barely talks to women and he did some trick that comes on a IRC channel, you know,
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he can't control himself, I guess.
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I'm with 330 on that one. I mean, it's a pretty broad issue, I guess, in general. It's
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almost, yeah, I mean, same, but it exists in open source, it's kind of just like, it's
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like, yeah, obviously. It exists everywhere.
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I'm not trying to make it sound like it's not an issue because it really is. But it does
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have as much as an issue here as anywhere else. It's what I think you're trying to say.
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Yeah, but it's an issue everywhere. And yeah, yeah. I wouldn't throw one community under
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the bus before another.
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Exactly. It's like if there's a woman at a, you know, a Linux conference or something
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and you have an interaction with them, just treat them, you know, like you would treat
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anybody else. Talk to them intelligently, you know, respectful. Don't be a dick.
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No, but that goes through anybody you need.
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Yeah, all the women I've seen at Linux conferences were treated like queens, but that was just
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because every nerd in a 10 mile radius was throwing themselves at them.
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Yeah, but I mean, isn't that in serious form of sexism as well? I mean, it's, you know,
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that's treating someone differently because of their gender. So, I mean, that's kind
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of part of the problem. I mean, it really shouldn't even be an issue. I mean, you see a human
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being in front of you and they're talking about, you know, some new ideas that they have
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for, you know, plasma and KDE and you simply talk to them about it and that's that. And
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if they happen to be a, a female or a male, a gyro girl, whatever you're going to say,
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I mean, so be it. It's the idea and the, you know, the idea of the, the code that matters.
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Yeah, if we have anyone that we should treat differently, it's space aliens with blue
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hair.
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I wouldn't go so far as to say that they should be treated differently either. I think all
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by diversity and open source is important. Hey, aren't they doing a diversity and open
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source panel at O.L. left this year? There you go. Those are good boys. I never noticed
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any issues in the cranks channel. No, seriously, if a woman, well, like Mrs. Oak is in there
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now. Nobody's harassing her. It's the art, but we always harass her, so. No, she's not
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in there. No, well, that's why we're harassing her. Yes, yes, she took over Zoke's computer
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ways, growing her's all up. All right, we better move on for this gets any deeper. Peter
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64. What do you got for us? Just a bit of a heads up this week. For those who didn't
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know, Arch Linux has produced a magazine. Start it coming out this month. Now, if you
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wait two seconds, I'll bloody get it. It's available as a download as a PDF or you can
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read as HTML, which I'll just put the link somewhere there. Now, it's not just for Arch users,
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so anyone is running Linux. This would be worth downloading or reading online. By, for
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instance, this one, this, and this one is a little short on content as well, because two
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people that look like we'll be putting it together. Well, a lot of people will be contributing
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to it, but one of the blokes as a way, or didn't have internet access this last month,
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so it looks like this one they want to just rush to get it out. What has it got? A few
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tips and tricks, stuff like that. It's got a review on video editors, although there
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are any sort of reviews and they're very, very short reviews too. Like Abby D. Max,
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Sinalara, Kino, and Lives. So they've obviously left quite a few out. But anyway, just for
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anyone who wasn't aware of it, if you're like reading stuff, especially on Linux, then
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get over there and do yourself a favor and download it and have a look.
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That is cool. Did you paste the link in the IRC?
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Oh, I didn't get through it. Yeah, I got it. I can't.
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Like I would only imagine this would just keep getting better and better as more people
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start to contribute to it. Yeah, really cool. I'm trying to find the PDF.
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Oh, I'm sorry. I'll put that link into it. Yeah, what do I understand? I used to do a news
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letter. Now, I think this is going to replace the news letter.
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Yeah, this would be better anyways. Yeah, well, the more stuff out there, the better.
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When the tax made, well, now we talked about this before, tax magazine, the one that was
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produced as a PDF, which unfortunately folded, that was a really good magazine.
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Yeah, from the Linux journal, people. Yeah, you had the blank on the Linux link
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picture. Did you pass a lot of money? Yeah, that guy eventually became the editor of
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Linux journal for a while. That was his name Nick Petraly. Yeah, he was a sad to say
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that one. And then he got shit canned. I don't know what he's doing now. Yeah, it just
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wasn't economically viable. I think that what they tried to get the furthest from the
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magazine or something. But no, that's right. That's very well done. Yeah, it was.
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And then they asked. Yeah, they charged up. Yeah, the first 12 months was pretty well
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free. And then they had the charge, but obviously they just didn't get enough. Anyway, let's
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just take this one, doesn't get the same light. And imagine anyone who's into it could
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certainly contribute articles to it. It probably would be happy to hear you from people who
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wanted to contribute to it. But don't they expect the articles to be specifically
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on arch? No, quite too. Like I said, this one's got the obviously going to have a section
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called software review each month. This particular one was on video editors, but I'd imagine
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that will continue, you know, with just about anything. They have a fun section. Not
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quite sure what that looks. I don't know what that's all about. I don't know if I should
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down and read that. A tips and tricks section, piping without the plumbing. Once again,
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I'd have to sit like the stuff that's there. I don't understand. I've never seen before.
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So I'd have to sit down and read that. But no, it's not specific to arch. There are obviously
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going to be sections for that. They talk about Pacman in there and looks like they're going
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to they've got to feature interview with this Lou Chang, whoever he is. I've never heard
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of English. Yeah, cool. It's cool. It's good. There's obviously a community highlights
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with you, but the ask community are the better. Sure, yeah. Yeah, I get the feel for it.
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Yeah, it's got some arch-specific things and then it's kind of more general articles
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that could apply to anything. Yeah, very cool. Anything else? No, not for me. Let's move
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on to art. Be 61. Okay, I found a cool item that should make every techie. Enjoy themselves.
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HP came out with an arm-based digital picture frame with multimedia capabilities, internet
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radio, and clients for Facebook and Pandora. It's a 10-inch screen and they're also coming
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out with a 13-inch screen. This thing gets Wi-Fi, has dual readers, dual card readers.
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I'll paste a link in the IRC. That should be there. This thing is really the only thing
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they say it's not running on Ubuntu that the HP uses on the mini. They said it is more
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like a Linux-based Chumbi alarm clock computer, which I've never heard of. But it has a little
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handheld remote control that you can use. I mean, we talked about that one nitbook that
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with the detachable screen and stuff. This thing is like, it's not a touch screen, but it's
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like an all-in-one computer. It's a really cool little device. It'll take SSD cards, memory
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sticks. It'll also take comeback flash. As two USB ports comes with two-gig of flash memory in it,
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which you can, because of the system on it, it's got one and a half gig useable. But like I said,
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it also has USB ports on it. It's really pretty sharp. I could see something this. Now this would be
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something to stick into your kitchen and hang on the wall. We talked about your cooking shows. I think
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this would be pretty neat. Does the MPEG 1, 2, and 4, H264, MP4. Also, HP has a smart radio service,
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which I never heard about either. They say they have live internet broadcasts for more than 10,000
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radio stations. Stereo speakers in it also has a headphone jack. And it's good to look in a little
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piece of device. It has a 10-inch screen on it, 10.2-inch, and they're making a 13-inch. It's got
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the 800x480 display, wireless and wired. Also, let's try to look out. 250 packs. Yeah, it's
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pretty sharp. Yeah, I know. That sucks, don't it? I think I would get kind of annoyed at it, though,
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after a while, because wouldn't you want to break into it and start hacking around. And it seems
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like it'd be hard to see that. It doesn't seem like they give you a whole lot of flexibility.
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I don't know. You can network it. Oh, that's true. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. You should be able to
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access it into it or hack it into it somehow. But I remember when those digital photo frames
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come here. They were 150, well, they were like $150 for a little 5-inch one. Well, yeah, I
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tried for 100, but we're on. Right. As I've mentioned before, she's got a feature
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learning up against it, so I have to get it out of the way to the money. Well, I just need
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about this. Yeah, I mean, you can stream video, audio, you know, from your network server.
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I mean, I don't even just sit next to your bed. I've also mentioned this before, but we don't
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have a telly in the room because it's my wife away. And I often used my daughter's EEE
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feature because the screen's little. It's on the bedside table, you know, put it in. But I could
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say this thing easily. Pushing that into it with the little handy remote. It's quite
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a little. It's quite a way of the light. And the 13 inch. Doesn't it look a little bit
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sticky, you guys? I don't know. It doesn't give you any actual dimensions on it. It looks
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the screen of like a 1,000 netbook, doesn't it, months to be? Yeah, I'm looking at the
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side of it on a screenshot. And it's just a little bit thicker than a cat 5 cable. If
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you look at that picture, we're done. Oh, yeah, I see. You're right. Wow. But you see
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here being an awful least. I mean, it's not uncomfortable to lie in bed and hold a novel.
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But yeah, this thing is now in here. It's a novel. That's true. And that's another thing.
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You can probably read, you know, I mean, you put PDFs on it or you pull down PDFs from
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your server. You could read in this with this thing. Yeah. Hey, I wanted to get cranky
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and try you in the bean. Sorry, bud. Ruined your night. Yeah, yeah. I'll go back and
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be right there. You know what a damn 60 device fan. Just do our code 5 tablet. Have you
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seen the specs of this thing? No. It's really sweet. Let me show a couple of stories
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that have been the R6 on it. It can now put a high depth 720p. It's got an HDMI connection.
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And it's coming in a whole bunch of different versions. There's going to be a low, the lower
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N1 flash-based storage and the higher N1 has an actual hard drive. Well, I can see. They
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have a bunch of, what? Oh, the ARC. On the one page. The ARC? It looks about 7, 8, 9,
|
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5. It's kind of like in the vein. It's kind of in the vein of like a Nokia. Yeah.
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4.8 inches, 800 by 480 screen. We could do 720p, including Windows, Media, HTTX4. It has
|
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an optional DVR station that the device can do VGA TV recording. Has 802.11 and Wi-Fi. And
|
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it's running Android. Okay, now we can't get in Android. It does, especially since Nokia
|
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kind of like left the internet tablet. Oh, they dropped the ball on that one, did it? Yeah,
|
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I've kind of walked away from it. So I could see me on the mouse. That's an idea. You can
|
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whack in your pocket when the boss has come along. I could see you. I could see you killing
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people watching this, Peter. Yeah. Well, that's a good size. Once you get up to that size,
|
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that's what you've got. Peter, you could probably make a thing to hang off the front
|
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of your mat and watch this thing. Yeah, but I have to be able to get in your pocket real quick
|
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when like the directors applying it. Yeah, that is what I'm doing. We'll just tell them it's a sunshade.
|
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Good point. Yeah, you know, you mount it right under front of your helmet there and you have it
|
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like a sunshade. And this, you said, has HDMI out too. So you can put on your media. I don't think I'll
|
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plug it into your tele or your projector or whatever. Yep. That's about the same thing. That's nice.
|
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250. Yeah. 50 to 440. Yeah, depending on how much storage you get. That's got a touch screen,
|
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|
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right? Yep. Yeah, both touch. Resist the touch screen. Yeah. See, that other one that I was
|
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talking about doesn't have a touch screen. But it also has an optional dock with a keyboard.
|
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Oh, like the old palms had like that type of deal. Kind of, yeah. Well, I tell you, these netbooks
|
||
|
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really caught a new new market. They've got people think this is even a netbook. This is
|
||
|
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the internet outlet. Well, yeah, this is definitely in the vein of like the Nokia line, you know,
|
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|
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in 800 to 810 to 770. This is the phone to now. Okay. All right. So that's the one that's what
|
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|
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Nokia is doing. Nokia is a phone now. Yeah. That's the one thing. I'm recording that if you wanted
|
||
|
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if you wanted to talk about that. I really, you know, I have an N800. I love this thing. I think
|
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|
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it's a great device. But I think the N900 is doomed to failure unless Nokia can have a carrier
|
||
|
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do a subsidized price for $200 or less. If they don't get it below that around $200, I think
|
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|
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they're not going to pull shit. It's kind of sad because you know, it's probably a quality product.
|
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|
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Well, it's probably too quality of a product, you know. It's too damn expensive, you know. Yeah, well,
|
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with people changing their minds on everything and all this new shit coming out, like you said,
|
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I mean, you say 200, but I think people will spend close to 400, but even on a subsidized product,
|
||
|
|
you know. Well, but I have an Android phone, man. And I think it's absolutely great. I absolutely
|
||
|
|
love this thing. Motorola has that new phone. They just announced a click. Yeah.
|
||
|
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Supposedly on T-Mobile, that phone's going to be free with a geocontract. Oh, sweet. Yeah,
|
||
|
|
the click looks really nice. Yeah. For I think one is supposed to get about that be announced too.
|
||
|
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Yeah, they're supposed to have two of them rising. Yeah, they're supposed to have two, you know.
|
||
|
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And there's going to be two on palm, also. Excuse me, gentlemen. Yep, that's it.
|
||
|
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I'm sorry. Android violation here. Yeah, we got five minutes in the bin for Pat.
|
||
|
|
You continue with the Android violations that you'll get three minutes. And I think 330 chirp
|
||
|
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in there, too, didn't you? I said, that's one minute. No, I was talking about Motorola.
|
||
|
|
Is that a telephone? 330. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, two minutes for arguing with me plus the one minute,
|
||
|
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the original one minute, that's three minutes as well. God, you got to watch these guys,
|
||
|
|
any bloody phones. Man, it took you a long time. Sorry, I got caught up in it. I should send
|
||
|
|
me something to the bin. In fact, I'm going in two minutes. That was very noble with Peter.
|
||
|
|
All right, before we move on to Peggy, I just want to let you know, Clot 2, you're
|
||
|
|
disconnected from IRC if you didn't know. I did know, and my battery just kind of
|
||
|
|
cocked out on me, but I've pushed back in and I will be back on momentarily. All righty,
|
||
|
|
what do you got for us Peggy? Actually, this is from the BBC News. It's a cool little device that
|
||
|
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I found. It's actually for blind people. It's a poem that reads, especially design labels for it.
|
||
|
|
Actually, I'll post a link for I get good and started reading this. There we go.
|
||
|
|
It allows them to attach audio labels on too much anything, and then the pen reads it,
|
||
|
|
and it will play an MP3 file, say, you went to the pharmacy because you had to get, I don't
|
||
|
|
know, a scientist of medicine. You have someone, you know, like, oh, hey, this is your
|
||
|
|
scientist of medicine. You slap on those labels on it, you know, use the pen, record, you know,
|
||
|
|
you're saying, scientist of medicine. So when you picked up the box and touched the pen to that
|
||
|
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little label, it would just say, find this medicine in your voice. That way you wouldn't confuse it
|
||
|
|
with, say, laxatives. You know, it kind of reminds me really of the smart pens, like the one that
|
||
|
|
a 330 treats better than people because it's better than people. Those who should have been the
|
||
|
|
bin. I was unmuted, sir. I don't understand it either. You weren't just long open and I went,
|
||
|
|
all right, fine. The people that made it, they also make, you ever seen those interactive
|
||
|
|
children of the books that have the little pen and you had touched on the page and they'll, like,
|
||
|
|
save part of the story? Nope. They didn't have books when I was growing up.
|
||
|
|
Okay, so that was a stone. Well, the people that designed those books and everything with those
|
||
|
|
pens, they thought, hmm, how else could we use this? So they adopted it to read especially design
|
||
|
|
labels for blind people. I don't know about this. How are they supposed to find a label?
|
||
|
|
Especially if it's like a bag of dog food, like, where the hell is it? It's going to be all over
|
||
|
|
that bag. So they can probably feel the labels. It's going to have a little detector on it,
|
||
|
|
but it goes BBB BBB BBB, we're going to get closer to the barcode. I'm sure a lot of
|
||
|
|
probably. Talk about seeing impaired people, man. Once they start driving an electric car,
|
||
|
|
once they become more prevalent, they get a problem, man. Blind people are not going to freaking
|
||
|
|
hear them. Yeah, that's you're right. Well, I mean, people could wear these stickers
|
||
|
|
when they get close to on the car stops. Yeah. Yeah, I thought it was really cool.
|
||
|
|
That was just a crap doll over it. It is pretty cool. I'm impressed.
|
||
|
|
C'mon, Peggo, where you got to think of all the positives, too.
|
||
|
|
Yeah, it's kind of neat, but one of the kind of, I mean, that would be so
|
||
|
|
tough to get all these stickers on all the items. Well, no, if you're blind, I mean,
|
||
|
|
it's actually pretty handy because you come home with something new, or you know, you've got
|
||
|
|
a bunch of stuff on your desk or whatever. You know, yeah, you've seen a little bit of time
|
||
|
|
putting stickers on them, but I mean, you know, if you're not blind, you've seen a little
|
||
|
|
bit of time organizing your stuff, too. Oh, I'm sorry. I thought this was going to be on at the
|
||
|
|
store, and then they would go into the store with this pen and then like scan it, okay, this is
|
||
|
|
the brand I wanted. I didn't know this was for at home. I'm pretty sure that's for at home,
|
||
|
|
okay, never mind. Sorry, great idea.
|
||
|
|
I think they ought to have a, I think they ought to have it on a Dick Tracy watch, and you just wave
|
||
|
|
your arm by it, and it tells you what it is. Well, that wouldn't be a bad idea, frankly. I mean,
|
||
|
|
people who can't see what they're, you know, I mean, think about it. If you can't see and you
|
||
|
|
go into a store and you want to do some shopping, I mean, you know, we take it for granted.
|
||
|
|
You can't see the stuff. You have to have someone there shopping with you every day. That's right.
|
||
|
|
You can go out. It's ridiculous. I mean, having things, little things like this, we have the
|
||
|
|
technology. It's not like we don't, you know, we can't figure out how are you people going to be
|
||
|
|
able to see what they're buying. I mean, the least we could do is put braille stickers on stuff. I mean,
|
||
|
|
these products are being manufactured in mass, half of them are junk anyway. They can afford to put
|
||
|
|
a braille sticker on the box, but they don't. There's no reason for it. They just don't. We have a
|
||
|
|
braille on those shelves, either. We could. We, you know, it's a simple thing. So what about technology?
|
||
|
|
Now, if we add some kind of little sticker, we have barcodes already. It's not a big deal for us.
|
||
|
|
Look at the, not to go back to the A thing again. Look at the, look at the little program they have on
|
||
|
|
that phone that you can take a picture of the barcode and it tells you where you can get it.
|
||
|
|
It gives you the information about the item. Yeah, I mean, you know, we've got, we've got it,
|
||
|
|
and we just need to implement it. I don't understand why we, we have all this cool technology. We
|
||
|
|
don't seem to be doing anything really good with it. We just keep kind of like making digital picture
|
||
|
|
friends. You know, this is really, all right. It's just like Kajari said that people who work on it
|
||
|
|
don't give a shit about it because they're not blind. They just always broken. Oh, okay.
|
||
|
|
Well, these are broader than that. People just don't care because the bottom line is always the
|
||
|
|
dollar. Right. And, you know, if, you know, if 95% of your customers are not blind and 5% are,
|
||
|
|
you're just not going to care about the 5%. Yeah, but the store doesn't have to do anything because
|
||
|
|
it's already there. An outside entity's got to do something about it. The barcode down every product
|
||
|
|
and every shelf in every supermarket. Yeah, but I mean, it's going to still boil down to, to the
|
||
|
|
money. I mean, if there's nothing, you know, blind people who have to shop anyway, they're going to
|
||
|
|
just make them go find someone to take them shopping. You know, they're only 5% of the market or,
|
||
|
|
you know, whatever you anticipate they are. So it's just, yeah, it's just a lack of social
|
||
|
|
responsibility, I reckon. Well, if they took it and see, now, see, go, let's go back to somebody
|
||
|
|
doesn't have to take them shopping if they take a taxi. You know, here they can be so totally
|
||
|
|
self-sufficient if they have an item like this. I mean, yeah, exactly. Because when they go to
|
||
|
|
the checkout, they're going to scan a barcode anyway. I mean, it's all, you know, it's sad that
|
||
|
|
that they give Microsoft all this money to build a freaking bridge and they can't put that money
|
||
|
|
billion to billions of dollars towards, you know, development of technology that's already there
|
||
|
|
to benefit people that they're saying in our handicap. You know, it's really, it's Asuna, I know,
|
||
|
|
the way the whole country is back afterwards. Yeah. And coming from a guy that, you know, has some
|
||
|
|
epically bad visions, you know, don't talk about me like that. Yeah, I can't see too close anymore,
|
||
|
|
but I can't, I can't see too far. You can't see too close. So together, we can see damn
|
||
|
|
near everything. I'm not getting together with you. You just put them in a backpack and you guys
|
||
|
|
go. There you go. Then launch me out of a cannon at the aisle you want. He doesn't go in a backpack,
|
||
|
|
he goes in one of their little wagons. Do you guys remember, I think it was nine years ago,
|
||
|
|
10 years ago, Radio Shack had this little gimmick. They called it the QCAT that you couldn't go
|
||
|
|
into a Radio Shack store and get it for free posted in the chat room here. Yes, I remember,
|
||
|
|
I remember that month to be. Yeah. And you could use your mouse, right? Well, this was like a little,
|
||
|
|
it was shaped like a cat instead of a mouse. Yes. And then you pointed it to your USB and you could scan
|
||
|
|
any label, any barcode, and it would pull up the website. Yep, they give you a little disc to
|
||
|
|
load into your computer if I had one of them. I still have the CD somewhere. I've seen it not too
|
||
|
|
long ago. It was free, so I went and got one. And you still have it now, right? No. I think it broke
|
||
|
|
after I scanned like 10 things. What exactly, I'm not following what this is, so it's a... It's a
|
||
|
|
piece of picture. It's a handheld scanner. Barcode scanner. Barcode scanner, that's cool. You could
|
||
|
|
take like a can of Mountain Dew and scan it and it would pull up the Mountain Dew website. Oh, okay.
|
||
|
|
I mean, anything with a barcode, it would, it would search the internet. Yeah, give you
|
||
|
|
information on it. Oh, that's pretty cool. And that was 10 years ago when the internet really
|
||
|
|
wasn't as... Yeah, really. And they gave it away for free. Yeah. What do they do that? They got you
|
||
|
|
in the store. Yeah. You're talking about the shack, man. Yeah, and it never caught on, but there
|
||
|
|
are a lot of nerds that still have them and just use them as barcode scanners. Yeah, that's pretty cool.
|
||
|
|
Well, there you go. See, there are 10 years ago to technology. You know, it's crazy. You know,
|
||
|
|
it's a cool thing that you start to see. They have these barcodes for a certain operating system
|
||
|
|
that you can use for your roles and links to downloads of apps. Oh, that's right. So you scan
|
||
|
|
the barcode on your monitor and it will automatically download it on the device. Oh, sweet. Yeah,
|
||
|
|
that's really cool. Yeah, that is nice. I think it's QR codes. Yeah, QR codes. I'll put a link,
|
||
|
|
you could see what a QR code looks like. I've been seeing them lately. It's like taking a lot of them.
|
||
|
|
They're pretty neat. Some magazine has them now where you can scan that in. It might be a Linux
|
||
|
|
format or maybe it's wired, I don't know. But it's cool to tell, man. If I can have the barcode,
|
||
|
|
like on my computer, my desktop monitor, I just go in and scan it. And I hope it'll either go
|
||
|
|
directly to that link, you know, or a little download a app or something. That's like you net bootin.
|
||
|
|
It's like you net bootin. You know, you can go on your net bootin. Well, yeah, but I'm just saying
|
||
|
|
that the same principle where it takes you right to the website downloads the ISO and puts it on
|
||
|
|
your USB stick, you know, on one fell swoop. Wow, it's a whole new idea for delivery of viruses.
|
||
|
|
If that catches on, you just get some stupid Windows user, like some Windows user. Hey, hey, hey.
|
||
|
|
Someone who's done, they'll just listen and stop.
|
||
|
|
But you know what I mean. They're all stupid. That is not true. There are some very intelligent people.
|
||
|
|
I'm sorry. I thought I was muted. I was just getting anyway. They are all stupid.
|
||
|
|
Because I think of myself and talk about you guys. What happened to the old fashioned command line?
|
||
|
|
What old fashioned command line? You know, they're getting all this new stuff. Everybody's trying to get
|
||
|
|
away from the command line. Instead of a command line, I'm going to give you a key, the pipe key.
|
||
|
|
What are you talking about, Pat? You use the pipe key, man, and your golden. It opens up a world of
|
||
|
|
possibilities, too. Pipe key. I don't know. Don't know. Yeah, it's that vertical dash that
|
||
|
|
above the backslash. Oh, are you like trying to hint around a little less promo again, saying that the
|
||
|
|
editor of the Unix pipe will be at Ohio Linux Fest this year, and if you want to go. That's
|
||
|
|
fun. Did I mention that? I totally did not go in there. All right. Making sure that the pipe is
|
||
|
|
a great key, man. It is a great key. I love it. I thought you meant something else when you said
|
||
|
|
key. I was like, I think he's got something new here. I thought that was the last story, wasn't it?
|
||
|
|
No. No, of course not. Are you a lot of people left? Pegwall, are you done? I didn't want to
|
||
|
|
cut you short. No, you're short enough now. I don't know if those are likely. How far are you?
|
||
|
|
Four foot six. Three foot. All right. Come on. He's four foot. Three, thirty, four foot. No, he's
|
||
|
|
only three foot three. Pegwall, we're just kidding. Sorry, I wasn't actually listening. I actually
|
||
|
|
put the phone down to go pee. It's all right. We were just kidding. How far are you actually?
|
||
|
|
I'm five seven. Bull. Jesus. I don't believe it. That's what his hair on.
|
||
|
|
That's where he's wearing his flat pants. Stopped into place. Don't be hating on the pufro.
|
||
|
|
He's like that guy in a N.I.B. there, you know, men and black. His head grows back up out of his body.
|
||
|
|
Okay, were you done? Pegwall? Yeah. Okay, let's move on to three, thirty.
|
||
|
|
Well, I know I risk going back to the bin, but I want to talk about cell phones for a moment.
|
||
|
|
This is actually a little bit of meat eating pro, too. I'm going to tell people, enjoy it.
|
||
|
|
It came out, I think last week or so, to see us. Pauldry is actually spying on its users.
|
||
|
|
It's actually sending your GPS coordinates to Palm, and no one knows why, because Palm doesn't
|
||
|
|
actually offer any services that would be useful for them to know your GPS coordinates for.
|
||
|
|
Oh, no other phone sends out their GPS coordinates. Well, actually a lot of them,
|
||
|
|
there are a lot of them that do, but like almost every one of them now.
|
||
|
|
For example, Android. Google has a reason. Because they do run a mapping stock,
|
||
|
|
you know, it would make sense, but Palm doesn't have any mapping software or anything like that.
|
||
|
|
And they apologize for doing it, but didn't say they were going to stop.
|
||
|
|
And I just, I just kind of heard everybody say Android, Android, Android, and then I can.
|
||
|
|
Bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop.
|
||
|
|
Okay, first let me hear it, man. Get in the bin.
|
||
|
|
What's with the helmet made of bin someone?
|
||
|
|
Right, sorry, you continue to write 30.
|
||
|
|
Oh, but I just wonder what everyone else thought, because everyone knows that I wear a tin foil hat
|
||
|
|
and I'm absolutely ridiculously paranoid, so.
|
||
|
|
Well, I do, I mean, if you're asking about the palm tree thing, I think that's crazy.
|
||
|
|
And that's weird and scary stuff. I can't imagine why they would want to receive your GPS
|
||
|
|
coordinates, but that's bizarre. I mean, I'm assuming they will probably claim it for
|
||
|
|
marketing and to better your, you know, to make sure you get better service or some nonsense
|
||
|
|
like that, but I mean, give me a break. They claimed it was said, they take privacy seriously.
|
||
|
|
They said that it was to deliver a great user experience.
|
||
|
|
Of course, that's always the excuse. So it's done for your own good, right?
|
||
|
|
Yeah, it couldn't have been not looking out for you and you're going to walk into a sort of
|
||
|
|
dangerous part of town. They'll ring you and say, hey, listen, don't go there.
|
||
|
|
Well, yeah, that would call you.
|
||
|
|
A dangerous part of town all up to the person's discretion. I mean, there are people in this
|
||
|
|
country that if, you know, they're the quote unquote wrong color, they shouldn't be in certain areas
|
||
|
|
of town when someone wouldn't know. Well, that have an idea, you race and color and all that,
|
||
|
|
because they would have kept an eye on your shopping habits for a while and they'd be able
|
||
|
|
to sort of work out what sort of race you would. Yeah, you're still a demographic.
|
||
|
|
Yeah, you're always looking on the dance like these bikes.
|
||
|
|
I know. I know. For a genuinely good reason.
|
||
|
|
Quite possibly. They might have like a sort of a superhero, like a vigilante kind of guy
|
||
|
|
who actually does, like, you know, maybe it's whole team of them following their customers around,
|
||
|
|
you know, and when they see that you're in danger, they send that superhero to your coordinate.
|
||
|
|
No, that was the reason does. They have those guys following you around all the time.
|
||
|
|
Oh, okay. I didn't notice them. That's how I used to race. But, well, I don't know. It just
|
||
|
|
doesn't surprise me at all. I mean, to hear about it. But, yeah, it's...
|
||
|
|
Well, all cell phones can be tracked, can't they? Just through what cell tower you
|
||
|
|
haven't been connected through. Well, yeah, but that's how the owning cell phone.
|
||
|
|
I mean, I watch CSI. I know that you've got to actually add to your cell phone when you get
|
||
|
|
a Q someone. Yeah, but see what that's the thing is they know where you are because they're giving
|
||
|
|
you a surface for it. You're giving up a little bit of your privacy for a convenience. It's not
|
||
|
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even... You're not even... You're getting a convenience from Palm when they do it. They're just
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collecting data for data's sake. Well, they're probably selling it to someone, I guess.
|
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You know, and I really don't want them knowing how often I eat at the same freaking place over and
|
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|
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over and over. Well, yeah, I don't have one. She's loyal. That's why it's a picture today, right?
|
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Well, yeah, but you're on an island. Everyone knows where everybody does. You can see it.
|
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Well, I think you should probably be a little bit concerned about a Peter 64. I mean,
|
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I know it doesn't seem like it's a big deal right now when it's in its infancy, but I mean,
|
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these companies are just collecting all kinds of data on 330. And they're going to come and get
|
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them at some point. So we should all be very concerned for his safety. I'm actually...
|
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Well, I'm even trying to... They're not at the door now for just me telling you about it,
|
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because they are listening. I know. I'm even a little country-tans. Everyone knows they're going
|
||
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to business anyway, so this would be nothing to you. They'll probably never meet by the state.
|
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God, I hope so. I mean, what? Well, the crazy thing is that these companies, even if they're not
|
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selling it to other people or whatever, I mean, even if they're just storing this data somewhere,
|
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that's now in their possession and should anyone hack their system or just decide to go looking
|
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through files randomly, because they're at work late one day. I mean, who's the data you have that make?
|
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I have to go. Yeah, really. You lose this crap all the time?
|
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|
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Yeah, all the time. Yeah. So that's not necessarily... I don't know. Yeah, it's definitely a good reason
|
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not to use your real information on pretty much everything you ever sign up for these days. That's
|
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what I try to do. You know what bothers me is Google has my full security number.
|
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Why did they have your social security number? About two years ago, I was doing their ad sense
|
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crap. You know, I had to cruise away. Yeah, they have to send you a check, because you have to pay
|
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taxes on it. It's like income. Oh, I see. And I ended up with 200 and something bucks, and they
|
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took it away from me, because I had too many clicks from the same IP address.
|
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So you sold your identity for $200 and then lost the $200 on top of that?
|
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It wasn't even my IP address. Somebody went on there and just clicked it. I don't know how many times,
|
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and it flagged it. Wow. Hey, Monster B, I had ad sense for a while, but I never filled out the
|
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|
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rest of the form. So if you want to stick your social in mind, you can have whatever money I made.
|
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I wouldn't feel any safer doing that. Yeah, but if I've already go, you'll take the richer.
|
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It'd probably be fraud. I'll probably get no price. Nope, you can't have the money.
|
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And now they got my social security number for fraud.
|
||
|
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But is anybody ever made any money for those ads? I've never tried it. I mean, just like
|
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|
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when all the podcasters selling that go-to meeting and oh, yeah, they make money on that.
|
||
|
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Yeah, they go daddy, but they have somebody has to buy it and put a promotion code in.
|
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|
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So you get paid, right? They don't actually pay you every time you do a show.
|
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Somebody's got to use your promotion code.
|
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|
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That seems really lucky if one person did that once a year.
|
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|
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Usually they pay you just for doing the ad because it's an impression.
|
||
|
|
Oh, I see. So the more times you hear about Leo going on and on and on and on about Audible,
|
||
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or you know, Jason Callacan is having an audible gatham.
|
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|
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Yeah, that's an impression.
|
||
|
|
God, he does. It's disgusting. You think about it. I mean, we know what ads Leo does because we
|
||
|
|
all sit around and bitch about how horrible the ads are. I mean, it does work.
|
||
|
|
I used to listen to cranky geeks and like right in the middle they used to have like five minutes
|
||
|
|
worth of ads. Do you remember that a big five minute? Oh, so annoying. But now he,
|
||
|
|
back then it was okay because I could fast forward it. Now he like puts them in every 10 minutes.
|
||
|
|
Although the ones that they did on cranky geeks and some of the other stuff that
|
||
|
|
if they this was doing, like I never remembered but the ads were because it was like a real like
|
||
|
|
normal pv ad. Like at least, you know, Leo, you know, making up his own, I hate to say content,
|
||
|
|
but it is. You know, and talking about the stuff like he actually uses it, I end up remembering it.
|
||
|
|
Yeah, to me, when they trick you like that, I don't know, I just kind of, you know, it's like
|
||
|
|
when you start talking anything else, you know, it's like, is he telling the truth or is he just
|
||
|
|
doing it because he's paid? Yeah, because it's good. Like this Linux thing that I keep mentioning
|
||
|
|
on all my shows. I don't actually use it, but I'm point someone's going to start downloading it
|
||
|
|
and I'm going to get paid. So I'm just waiting for the check. Every time somebody downloads
|
||
|
|
Fedora you get paid, right? Exactly. I'm not going to use the thing, obviously. He just boot up Windows 7 here.
|
||
|
|
Everyone took a second to laugh there. I know because they're scared. They're afraid it's true.
|
||
|
|
I know. I know you're on the state. Yeah, they're like, is he kidding around or...
|
||
|
|
Inaudible. Because when you want DRM with your books, you want Inaudible.
|
||
|
|
You all right, you got the audio books? I get all my audio books from the great people at BitTorrent.
|
||
|
|
Pete, for absolutely nothing a month, you can get as many books as Google can find for you.
|
||
|
|
Not from the pirate beta, right? Have you been there lately? Not that I frequent such sites myself,
|
||
|
|
but I guess I got finally bought out or something. That finally goes through? I guess. I mean,
|
||
|
|
it's a different logo. It says something weird on their page. Actually, I just navigated away.
|
||
|
|
I didn't bother searching for what I was searching for. The new pirate bay model was supposed to be
|
||
|
|
that whatever you downloaded, they were going to keep track that it was downloaded by someone.
|
||
|
|
They weren't going to necessarily let everyone know who you are. Then they were going to
|
||
|
|
use the ad revenue from the site to pay the RIA and the MPA and all other
|
||
|
|
manner of people to care. We're not suing them. Yeah, the extortion begins. That's ridiculous.
|
||
|
|
Now it says, instead of the traditional pirate bay logo, it says openinternet.se.
|
||
|
|
Yeah, that's what it says. It's kind of weird looking that didn't really want to continue my
|
||
|
|
visit there. It looks all core pretty. Yeah. Well, I just went one click in. I went to the
|
||
|
|
TV shows thing and the pirate bay logo shows up like it always did. Yeah, it looks normal once
|
||
|
|
you're in, but it's kind of weird. Kind of unsettling to see that logo on the front page.
|
||
|
|
Pirate bay, I just kind of thought it would never be touched. I thought it was
|
||
|
|
floating out there in the ether, never to be affected by any of the real world legal troubles.
|
||
|
|
I just can't believe people actually download movies and code them the DVD. I don't even have
|
||
|
|
a DVD player anymore. I watch everything on the DVR. But it's been like DVDs kind of like
|
||
|
|
so five years ago. Yeah, pretty much. But Paypal died in Latin, and then he cut it.
|
||
|
|
That's right. They're watching on the TV. Yeah, on your media. They're rather ex-vids or
|
||
|
|
devices. Yeah. Well, most of the funny thing is that BitTorrent is so far ahead of everyone
|
||
|
|
off. I mean, if you think about going to the, you know, God forbid, iTunes movie store, whatever
|
||
|
|
they call it, and downloading your stupid new, you know, your DRM to movie to your Apple TV,
|
||
|
|
you know, I mean, they have a kind of kind of working sort of quickly. But I mean, BitTorrent,
|
||
|
|
I mean, all the content is right there, and you can just grab it and start watching it,
|
||
|
|
and it just works so well. And, you know, the rest of the industry is just not getting it.
|
||
|
|
They're just not tuning into the technological possibilities that is, you know, BitTorrent and stuff
|
||
|
|
like that. And I just wonder why not, you know, like, wait, why are they fighting this and not
|
||
|
|
utilizing it to their advantage somehow? Well, that's what BitTorrent.com is all about.
|
||
|
|
I mean, BitTorrent.com is a for pay thing that just happens to use BitTorrent, the protocol.
|
||
|
|
Yeah. Make everything download quicker. Yeah. Well, what they're not getting is the fact that if
|
||
|
|
people watch your stuff, you're going to make money. Yeah, exactly. I mean, that's what you
|
||
|
|
want is for people to consume their products. And I mean, if let's, you know, let's use box,
|
||
|
|
for example. Yeah, if they put out, they do 24, right? I don't watch TV much. Let's say they do.
|
||
|
|
Okay. We'll say that they do 24. If they made a BitTorrent, you know, they made a Torrent
|
||
|
|
file of it. And let's say, left the ads in, or only put like one per break, and then put them out.
|
||
|
|
Most people wouldn't go through and edit it out. That's what I'm thinking. Yeah.
|
||
|
|
To say, it would take longer to edit out each of those little bitty clips that would just watch
|
||
|
|
the damn thing. And people are generally lazy. I mean, that's why TV has taken off so much.
|
||
|
|
If you give people the easiest way possible to do something, they're going to do it. And even if
|
||
|
|
it's, you know, kind of a pain in the ass. Yeah, I agree with you. I think you're dead on about that.
|
||
|
|
And you can get metrics on, you know, how many times it was downloaded because everyone else
|
||
|
|
has metrics on it. I mean, look at Torrent Freak. I mean, they know round about how many people
|
||
|
|
downloaded this certain, you know, the certain Torrent file. Yeah. And if you're talking about like
|
||
|
|
a TV station who deals with Nielsen ratings, which is such a ridiculously imprecise way of measuring
|
||
|
|
things, I mean, you'd think that they would love to have metrics on something like a Torrent,
|
||
|
|
where you know that people actually did download it. And chances are they bothered downloading it,
|
||
|
|
they're watching it. You know, I mean, that's, it seems like ideal for, for these companies.
|
||
|
|
I think we should charge people for this kind of stuff. I mean, we, I know, these ideas are,
|
||
|
|
I mean, we just like took an obvious thing and dropped it in their lap. All right, now go make
|
||
|
|
$100 million. Yeah. I think we're consulting for it. Don't mind us. We'll just sit over here and
|
||
|
|
starve to death. So when you, when you download these bit torrents like, like you were talking like
|
||
|
|
24 with the commercials, you would just fast forward them. Well, say, like, um, I was thinking kind of
|
||
|
|
like, who is where, you know, I don't even get up to pee because I can't pee in 15 seconds.
|
||
|
|
Yeah, it's, you know, make your commercial, you know, to the point and just get through it.
|
||
|
|
Or what if they made like a mini series, kind of like what Microsoft was doing,
|
||
|
|
make like a mini series where you want to watch the commercial to see what happens.
|
||
|
|
There you go. I mean, clever advertising would be, you know, a really good way to do it. But,
|
||
|
|
you know, still most people are, you know, going to thoroughly enjoy just getting through it
|
||
|
|
as quickly as possible and going on. That's been, that's been a thing that the, a lot of
|
||
|
|
filmmaking groups have been talking about for years and years now, just about like how,
|
||
|
|
in theory, commercials could be such a great avenue for beginning filmmakers to do like short
|
||
|
|
films that are geared towards selling a certain product, you know, because basically commercials are
|
||
|
|
just bad. They're just short, little films. They're very short, but they're short. But it's just,
|
||
|
|
I don't think it's really taken off. You know, you don't see that many commercials that are like,
|
||
|
|
like, little mini series of commercials that engage the audience enough to actually get
|
||
|
|
them interested in it, you know. But I do think it's a good idea in theory.
|
||
|
|
Well, when it comes down to it, they're really just greedy because in half the shows you watch,
|
||
|
|
you okay, they'll be sitting at the table talking in the movie or the sitcom, whatever.
|
||
|
|
And there's a Pepsi can sitting there. That's a good point. I mean, how much are they getting
|
||
|
|
for that Pepsi can? A lot. They could probably, probably skip 60 minutes worth of commercials.
|
||
|
|
Just with that one thing. Well, while we're on the subject to talking about this, I found,
|
||
|
|
I just found this today. I don't know if anybody tried it. I'll post it in the IRC. It's called
|
||
|
|
My Media System. It looks like, what does that look like to you, Peter, 64? Would it be compared to,
|
||
|
|
well, it's got a gap. You can compare it to just about any of the media applications,
|
||
|
|
like X, B, M, C, and Boxy and all. And it's sort of one of those, it's just a media aggregate,
|
||
|
|
but like I've only just started to read on it. But what interest me here is that says it can be
|
||
|
|
display and place media content such as video music features and more. And we'll run on
|
||
|
|
set of boxes connected to your TV set. It's a little bit like an embedded media.
|
||
|
|
It's a little bit like an embedded media, almost. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Boxy. Yeah. Yeah, the
|
||
|
|
screenshots are nice. Yeah, I mean, I would love to put this on something and hook it up to my TV.
|
||
|
|
That would be pretty cool. It's just that it has games, too. Plus a bunch of plugins for weather,
|
||
|
|
pictures, movies, audio. Yeah, I like this. See, this is something that I would be more
|
||
|
|
interested in than anything missed because I don't need the TV part of miss TV. I just need the
|
||
|
|
miss part of it. I just need the, you just want to, you just want to media front end.
|
||
|
|
Yes, exactly. Yeah, well, you'd be happy to face white Xbox media center cloud two or something.
|
||
|
|
Yeah, that's right. Yeah, Boxy, Xbox media center. Yeah.
|
||
|
|
Yeah, even a Lisa now, what's that called? Yeah. Oh, yeah, I think it's a Lisa.
|
||
|
|
Now it's changed. Now it's it's called. Yeah, I can't remember. I installed it the other day.
|
||
|
|
You think about now? I'll find out. I'll tell you in two seconds.
|
||
|
|
Let me just put it on it. Is that the invite linked in you? No,
|
||
|
|
sort of an essay? Alisa for Google says it is. Now, I didn't, Maria,
|
||
|
|
a Lisa media center. It's Maria or something. Shit, can't be this stupid.
|
||
|
|
Yeah, it's stuff to go on that. What a Lisa media center. Yeah.
|
||
|
|
Moved Vida. Moved Vida. Moved Vida. Moved Vida. Wow, it's looking kind of fancy lately.
|
||
|
|
Yeah, I was starting to play around with it just. I actually thought I might use a
|
||
|
|
tick thing one week. Just to see what they've done different with it. It does look nice.
|
||
|
|
The problem I used to have with the Lisa was a very CPU intentive.
|
||
|
|
Oh, yeah. Just for the, even just for the, you know, the GUI.
|
||
|
|
Don't worry about the video playback. Just to run the GUI, seem to use a lot of CPU and RAM.
|
||
|
|
I want to see if that fits that. You know, we haven't really talked about these
|
||
|
|
little media front-ends for a year. We should probably revisit that topic at some point, really.
|
||
|
|
Like, kind of revisit all these again, because I mean, obviously they've come along
|
||
|
|
way since we talked about it this time last year. I think it was. Yeah, we'll miss 0.22.
|
||
|
|
You should be at the next couple of weeks. Oh, yeah.
|
||
|
|
Just heard your listen to you. Yes, but I actually missed a big cast.
|
||
|
|
It's going to be awesome. Yeah, we'll.
|
||
|
|
So I'll queue for base down the GUI's. It's going to support the PVR 1212 high-def
|
||
|
|
capture box out of the box. It's got VDPAU, which is the shit. Yeah.
|
||
|
|
You might watch like those hardcore H264 1080i on a little atom processor. In fact,
|
||
|
|
I got my little little eye on box myself, and it's awesome. I have it set up as a
|
||
|
|
mis-front-end box. It's awesome. All those high-def file fans, you could play them no problem.
|
||
|
|
Very nice. Hey, handles, Dolce. It does the MPEG 2 high-def files nicely.
|
||
|
|
It also has all the playback to the graphics processor. It's freaking awesome, man.
|
||
|
|
That's how if you got the Nvidia chipset, that in a light-up model.
|
||
|
|
I'm sorry. You didn't tell me anything, which is a bit unfortunate.
|
||
|
|
No, you're SOL, my friend. Yeah. Get a real graphics card.
|
||
|
|
One of the paid freedom. Yeah, it should be great, man. I'm looking forward to it.
|
||
|
|
Yeah, but those, those media front-end boxes are nice little boxes, man. They, you know, they
|
||
|
|
didn't need for it. Some people don't want to record shows, so, you know, they have their
|
||
|
|
videos that they pull down, or for big torn, or whatever, you know, or rip DVDs or whatever,
|
||
|
|
and they just want to pull them up and watch them. It's perfectly fine for that.
|
||
|
|
What's the status of HDMI and Linux? Like it is. It works.
|
||
|
|
It works. Yeah, it works. Yeah, it works. You got a lot of yellow over it. It works.
|
||
|
|
Nice. You know, HDMI is actually a pretty nice cable, you know, what it is.
|
||
|
|
It's kind of like a next-gen colax cable. The problem is that they're implementing
|
||
|
|
encryption and copy protection on it. What things, those copy protection schemes on the cable,
|
||
|
|
it blows chunks, you know. Yeah. Now, DRM is crap, you know.
|
||
|
|
But the camera itself and the technology is nice.
|
||
|
|
Yeah. Or is it cheap? That's all they have.
|
||
|
|
Has your Dell got it? Yeah, you bought it. You bought the XDS, didn't you?
|
||
|
|
My laptop? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I have my laptop for a year. It's got an HDMI connection. It works.
|
||
|
|
Yeah. Yeah. I've never tried one. I didn't spend the extra $600 to get the blue right
|
||
|
|
player in one there. But still. Oh, that's ridiculous. Yeah.
|
||
|
|
You know, I have an HD DVD player. I paid like, I don't know, 170 bucks.
|
||
|
|
And then after a bit the bullet, they kick back another 50. Plus I got like, I don't know, 12 movies
|
||
|
|
for free, whatever. I don't know. That's all right. Yeah. It's an upscaling DVD player.
|
||
|
|
I just, I don't know. I have no desire to rush out and get a blue ray player.
|
||
|
|
The parties don't seem to be coming down very much.
|
||
|
|
And I don't know. I don't know if this is going to be around.
|
||
|
|
What is it? Say it's three. If you were in the market for a game,
|
||
|
|
that's fair enough. Don't spend that money and get the blue right player. It makes it worthwhile.
|
||
|
|
I know that shit. So I'm not going to be getting one. Yeah. I just, I have no desire to rush on,
|
||
|
|
get a blue ray player. Isn't physical media just pretty much dead anymore?
|
||
|
|
That's the thing. You know, how long is this stuff going to be around?
|
||
|
|
Well, a couple of years, maybe. But if you're talking, if you're asking that to this panel,
|
||
|
|
yeah, that's two minutes almost dead. But had you said that and mom and dad were standing here,
|
||
|
|
that side, well, what else is there? And there's a lot of moms and dad there,
|
||
|
|
you know, my sisters say they can't believe they go home after they come here and they might get
|
||
|
|
one or two movies from some grouply or, you know, I won't say where they're getting from.
|
||
|
|
But then they forget. No, probably better off getting one of those,
|
||
|
|
one of those Roku boxes and just watching the streaming videos from Netflix.
|
||
|
|
Well, for them, it's still easy to get a video place to shop and just hire one.
|
||
|
|
All right. I don't know. Best blockbuster video, which is one of the,
|
||
|
|
the oldest video places, chains in North America. They're going down the tubes, man. They're
|
||
|
|
closing a shitload of stores recently. They're just not making money. They're too expensive.
|
||
|
|
Again, so Netflix. The problem cost. Yeah, direct TV. They're doing a pretty good job on your
|
||
|
|
on demand. I have their, what they thought from movie that well, it depends. Most of the stuff
|
||
|
|
so far is free. Probably like rentals. Well, they have like five or six pay-per-view movies a
|
||
|
|
month that are free. And then if you want to buy them on demand, it's probably like three or four
|
||
|
|
bucks. That's one thing. When I used to have direct V-main, I used to get coupons for free rentals.
|
||
|
|
All the time, like every other month, I get a free movie. The cable companies never do that.
|
||
|
|
Well, mine won't do it either. They're, even though I have direct TV, because they told me there's
|
||
|
|
no competition in the area, so they don't have to. If you live in an area that other things are
|
||
|
|
available, you know, like Comcast cable or whatever, then they'll send you coupons just to keep you
|
||
|
|
as a customer. Well, one annoying thing that the cable companies are doing, cable, they transmit
|
||
|
|
the digital feed with cam, you know, QAM. They're basically, they're starting to encrypt everything,
|
||
|
|
except the over-the-air channels, you know, the regular network channels, all six stations,
|
||
|
|
whatever. That's about it. Literally from like, I run from like 30 HD stations in the clear
|
||
|
|
to like overnight to like six. But you can do over-the-air. The over-the-air HD is pretty good,
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supposedly. If you're close enough to the transmitters, you can get a really nice picture.
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That's how I get on mine, Pat. All mine come over the air. Yeah, TV. TV,
|
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|
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beeps, dash, t, threshold. So you use what the Europeans do, basically? Well, yeah, yeah, we use
|
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the same system, I think. That's all digital. Yeah, all digital with all the major broadcasters,
|
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broadcasters, standard definitions, and or have high definition channels as well. We get, I think,
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now about 15 for the air digital TV channels, and half of them are high definition.
|
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That's not too bad. Yeah, we get about six. Yeah, when I say that, a lot of them broadcast the same
|
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shit on, you know, three different streams. But we also get the electronic programming guide broadcast
|
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with it for four weeks. Right, right. The DVB system, you have the guide embedded into the picture.
|
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Yeah, in the transport stream. Well, I think you have now an extension. Yeah, we got to get our
|
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guide information from somewhere else. Yeah, you've got to pay that money. Yeah, we get $20,000
|
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a year though. Nah, good value. It's not that bad. Yeah, that's why you're going to have to get
|
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|
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the PVR 1212, man. That thing is a breakout box, and it's an encoder box. It does age 264.
|
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I'm going to fly via a component. So that'll work with everything. That'll work with satellite
|
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boxes, cable boxes, whatever. And that will be supported by default. Next time you see a
|
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|
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fail for the PVR 1212, buy it. I ordered an HD home run. That's a pretty cool. That's
|
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|
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a dual tuner camp box. Yeah, that has that has my feet. And it's actually just more or less
|
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|
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plug-and-pike with myth TV. Plug it in and it just... Pretty much, yeah. It shows up in the setup.
|
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The funny thing about that, that's manufactured in New Zealand from what I understand, and
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has been available over in the States. We've gotten those hell on, and there's only just become
|
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available in Australia, so it worked. That makes no sense. But there's New Zealanders for you,
|
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but I won't say nothing. Hey, they're looking to make a nice little part box. I'm going to have a sheep.
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Actually, I was going to say Jake, the son told me Jake the other day. He said, what do you call
|
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a New Zealander with two sheep under each, one sheep under each arm? And I said happy, and he said no,
|
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yeah. Say the punch line, then you cut out. I can't remember who it was. In the chat, he said,
|
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what do you call a New Zealander with a sheep under each arm? And I said happy, and he said no,
|
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a pimp, but I don't know if that's a pretty good one. Oh, look, this looks like a very beautiful
|
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country. I love the golden point. Well, there in Australia, I love the golden point of some time.
|
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|
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There you go. What do you call a sheep type to a lump post? Right, a leisure center.
|
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|
|
Well, speaking of sheep, we better move on to the command of the week. I would you like that
|
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|
|
segway? That's good. What is command of the week? That's spelled capital C, capital O,
|
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|
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little T for 10, capital W, which is pretty cool. If you squint your eyes, it looks like cow.
|
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|
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Yeah. What's an egg clever? I just clever, but you could just omit the completely
|
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|
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inch command of week, and then have it be cow. Yeah, but then you wouldn't get the T for 10.
|
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|
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Radio. Got you. You've been an arty bluehead teacher. You know that sort of shit.
|
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|
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Yeah, you think so. How did you get that job?
|
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|
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I can't my way into that. Well, claw two dazzle us with your command.
|
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I have to use a first. Yeah, you have to set the standard.
|
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|
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Okay. Well, I use probably a lot of people know the PS command, right? The, you know, just when
|
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|
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you want to see what processes are running and stuff like that, you do PS, and then a series
|
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|
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of different flags, and that the flags that I use on it the most are F-A-X, and what this does,
|
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|
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or even if you want a lot of information, you can do F-A-U-X, and that'll show you lots of
|
||
|
|
the columns that numbers and confusing abbreviations. But the important one for me is the F,
|
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|
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and that's F as in Frank, we're actually full, because it's showing you all the,
|
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|
|
it's showing you the processes that you're running, and then it also shows you the children
|
||
|
|
of those, you know, which, which process is a child of what other, you know, parent process.
|
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|
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So it's really kind of nice. You do it, and it kind of looks like a, you know, if you can imagine
|
||
|
|
like a family tree or something, or a flow chart, it kind of looks like that. And it's very clear
|
||
|
|
as to, okay, so I've launched, you know, this session of a, of a, of a terminal, and in this terminal,
|
||
|
|
I'm running, you know, some command, and this command is invoking, you know, another little
|
||
|
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application, things like that, so you get a really good breakdown of all the stuff that you're
|
||
|
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running. What was that? Okay, so I'm going to go to, and then it's like a dog. All right,
|
||
|
|
as long as I run, okay. It's different for people to see around here. A quick little bonus
|
||
|
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command from the same, you know, PS thing is something that actually Monster B pointed out to me.
|
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|
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Last night when we were talking about this, and it's PS-P, and then $2 signs. And I have no
|
||
|
|
idea what any of that stamps works that didn't bother looking it up, but what it does show you
|
||
|
|
is what show you are currently running. So you might think, oh, well, why don't I just do an
|
||
|
|
echo dollar sign shell, right? Well, that tells you what your environment is set, you know,
|
||
|
|
what your default shell is set in your environment, not necessarily what show you're actually running
|
||
|
|
right now, because maybe you switched over to some other show. So PS, space, dash, P, and then $2
|
||
|
|
signs. We'll show you your actual currently running show, and then the PS-FAUX will give you all
|
||
|
|
the information you could ever want to know on the processes that you are running. Thank you.
|
||
|
|
Very nice. Peter 64.
|
||
|
|
It is just so many to me. It's like, but my first one that I want to talk about was one that I've
|
||
|
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been mucking around with. There a bit. It's HW info. Now, you may have to install this.
|
||
|
|
I'm not sure if it comes as a default application on, I think it does with this, but it wasn't with
|
||
|
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art. And once again, there's a hell of a lot of different switches. The first one you can,
|
||
|
|
and what this is going to just tell everything about its information on the hardware in your computer.
|
||
|
|
If you run like HW info, space, dash, dash, short, it'll give you a short list of all the hardware.
|
||
|
|
Now, if you leave the short out, you're going to get pages and pages of information. Now, specifically,
|
||
|
|
okay, for instance, for me, I was genuinely talked about UDev Rules the other day. I was setting up
|
||
|
|
UDev Rules for an infrared remote control. Now, I needed to know the mod alias of this thing when
|
||
|
|
I plugged it in. And there's several ways of getting that. And one of them was to run
|
||
|
|
the HW info, space, dash, dash, keyboard, because this thing registered as a USB keyboard and mouse
|
||
|
|
when I plugged the infrared receiver in. And then I was able to look up and find out what the
|
||
|
|
mod alias is and use that in my UDev Rule. And therefore, now when I plugged this thing in,
|
||
|
|
it registers as an input device. I am infrared remote. And it'll always create that
|
||
|
|
simling every time I plug this in. Therefore, I can now use that with work. So, anyway, just to have
|
||
|
|
a look at all of the hardware and your computers worth running. And there's a lot of switches,
|
||
|
|
like I said, so run HW info, space, dash, dash, help. And it'll give you, like, you can run,
|
||
|
|
you know, BIOS and, and, uh, network and all these other, uh, commands after it, just to see.
|
||
|
|
Have a play with that. Is this like a shell script that someone, like, put together, or is it,
|
||
|
|
is there an application all on its own? Ah, glad to. I'm not sure. All I can tell you is that,
|
||
|
|
uh, it was on my MISBOX. But when I wanted to play with it on Arch, I had to install it. So,
|
||
|
|
I don't know what it is, sorry. Yeah, I'm kind of poking around for it in Slackware. And I'm,
|
||
|
|
I just finding a lot of results that I can't really identify if it's exactly what you're talking
|
||
|
|
about. But it sounds like a pretty neat little command. Um, I'll tell you now, I'm going to run it on
|
||
|
|
Hannah Montana Linux. So, you've got to build into that. Sweet. Hannah Montana Linux is pre,
|
||
|
|
pre fully packed. So, it's probably on there by default. Okay. And guess what? Get the lock
|
||
|
|
and then pop them going, man. Yeah, it's not. So, there you go. I'd have to install it on
|
||
|
|
Hannah as well. Yeah, it's not undead. You can buy default either. I want to say it's like some kind of,
|
||
|
|
you know, ad users, like a little sort of like a, I guess technically it's the shell script or
|
||
|
|
something invoking user ad. I'm just wondering if it's something like that because it sounds,
|
||
|
|
I mean, doesn't it sound like it's taking like LFPCI and CPU info and, you know, some of these
|
||
|
|
things and kind of like, you can run them all together. Yeah, you know? Yeah. Either way, it sounds
|
||
|
|
neat. I just wish I could find it. It's actually the one that you're using. I guess I'll look for it
|
||
|
|
on the arch site and then try to figure out where I can get it from myself. Yeah, I can't recall
|
||
|
|
ever running a dumpster there. So, yeah, I don't mind. So, quick show your hands around the room.
|
||
|
|
Who's going LLF? My hands are raised. My hands are raised. My hands are up. My hands down.
|
||
|
|
As is mine. I have two things sticking up right now. One's my arm.
|
||
|
|
I only have one sticking up and it's not my arm. Just how does it fit into the new statement anyway?
|
||
|
|
Yeah, we're getting a beam. What's going on here?
|
||
|
|
I'm going to put me in the bed. I'm staying at night. No, no, you've got to take a beam. I'll give you
|
||
|
|
a king of all commands, pal. Come on. Come on. Give us a command.
|
||
|
|
Grap is the king of all commands. What is the search out phrases? Yeah. G-R-E-P-Grap.
|
||
|
|
Grap is very useful if you're doing like an L-S-Mod or D-Message or, you know, any command what
|
||
|
|
you do is you put a pipe in there and then you'll do a Grap space and then a string that you want
|
||
|
|
to search for. So an example would be say you have a capture card, a hop art capture card.
|
||
|
|
It uses the IVTV module. What you could do is you could type D-Message, type Grap IVTV and you'll
|
||
|
|
see all the entries coming back related to that. Very useful for searching stuff when you're doing
|
||
|
|
some commands. Even more useful sometimes is Grap-I to make a case
|
||
|
|
insensitive so that if you are searching for, you know, you know, like, sort of, today,
|
||
|
|
leave a abbreviation or whatever that you're looking for but you're not sure how it's going to be,
|
||
|
|
you know, capitalized and stuff, just to adapt to that. You learn how to use Grap-Man,
|
||
|
|
you will be a command line master. Yeah, it's true. Yeah, even Grap, or you use Grap sometimes
|
||
|
|
just to go back and grab the logs of the lineage cranks I see when I know someone has mentioned
|
||
|
|
a command or something. Yeah. Grap, Grap Sposh, Dash, Capital H, little in, I think it is,
|
||
|
|
then quotes put in the typically, I put in J-Linty because I know he's usually the one who said it
|
||
|
|
and if it'll go and it'll spit out everything that J-Man has said. So yeah, a really handy command.
|
||
|
|
You really like J-Linty, don't you? Can I make that?
|
||
|
|
I'm meeting. Where is the J-Man? Why can't I sleep at night now and he's not in lineage cranks?
|
||
|
|
He was making us today too. The question is, who's going to be Dan Watchko's new man
|
||
|
|
creature in all of us this year? Big wall. No, no. I already got threatened with a mouthraping.
|
||
|
|
So are we taking a pool to see how Dan is going to be drunk beyond comparing a non-function?
|
||
|
|
The next morning in time for his talk. What's the point? I think we have to.
|
||
|
|
I think we have to. Hey, Peter, he didn't learn his lesson.
|
||
|
|
I'm going to say goodnight, you've immune me. Dan, be not in fact.
|
||
|
|
We have answers to go now. I'll see you there.
|
||
|
|
All right, see you later. How are you? How are you?
|
||
|
|
I love Walmart. Good night.
|
||
|
|
Good night.
|
||
|
|
Nice, no pot later. Well, that was interesting.
|
||
|
|
That was like, like, like, I did a chat. He doesn't like a chat, huh?
|
||
|
|
Now, because he probably ran into bloody hiding the last time he got sent there.
|
||
|
|
No comment. I forgot about art. He's been in the bin for like a half an hour.
|
||
|
|
He likes it in there. He just kicks back, kind of settles in.
|
||
|
|
What's your command of the week, Art?
|
||
|
|
I'm passing.
|
||
|
|
Pegwall?
|
||
|
|
Artim-RF. Don't run it.
|
||
|
|
Oh, I'm not even putting it in.
|
||
|
|
I'm not even putting it in.
|
||
|
|
He's showing them on.
|
||
|
|
Someone would do it.
|
||
|
|
That's why I said, don't do it.
|
||
|
|
330, just disconnected. He tried it.
|
||
|
|
He's going to bed.
|
||
|
|
Did he go to bed?
|
||
|
|
Yeah, he did.
|
||
|
|
Makes sense when I said in the chat, or I'll know.
|
||
|
|
I haven't actually left my room.
|
||
|
|
Yeah, right.
|
||
|
|
Oh, and my command is df-h.
|
||
|
|
This command reports how much free space is available for each mount you have.
|
||
|
|
That's all kinds of handy.
|
||
|
|
It is. And what does the dash fight you do?
|
||
|
|
It prints the sizes in human readable format, like kilobytes, megabytes, or gigabytes.
|
||
|
|
Is that the lowercase h-ring capital h?
|
||
|
|
Lowercase. I learned that lesson last night.
|
||
|
|
What does the capital h do?
|
||
|
|
It's got something to do with instead of using a 1,024 B2U as a 1,000 or something.
|
||
|
|
Yep, yeah.
|
||
|
|
Like around a gallon or something.
|
||
|
|
I'm not sure what the actual heart rate is.
|
||
|
|
Well, when I come to the heart rate, they go and mark it as a gig,
|
||
|
|
but they're only using a 1,000 B2U so they're ripping off.
|
||
|
|
They just rather know the truth, like the 1024 rather than, you know, I would rather know
|
||
|
|
the real number myself, but I guess people don't care so much, I don't know.
|
||
|
|
But yeah, that's a great command.
|
||
|
|
I do that obsessively.
|
||
|
|
Quite a bit of information, h-w-info.
|
||
|
|
It is actually, this is why it's installed on Zeus.
|
||
|
|
HHW-info is the hardware detection tool used in Zeus Linux.
|
||
|
|
They must have no veil must have something to do with writing it.
|
||
|
|
Hey, try a dash-dash CPU on that hardware info, HW-info.
|
||
|
|
On hand or on arch, it doesn't matter.
|
||
|
|
On arch, it doesn't matter.
|
||
|
|
It just shows you all the features of your process.
|
||
|
|
Oh, yeah, that tells you everything.
|
||
|
|
It really is a handy to me and to know.
|
||
|
|
Backware doesn't have any of those cool commands.
|
||
|
|
Backware is stupid.
|
||
|
|
Let me post this in the chat room so you guys can see.
|
||
|
|
This is just like just two lines of it.
|
||
|
|
There's actually like 20 lines of output, but I thought the features was kind of handy.
|
||
|
|
I won't read them all, but it shows stuff like, you know, P-A-E and 3D now, MMX.
|
||
|
|
Yeah, and you'll see there that it says module I-L-Y-S.
|
||
|
|
And that's one of the things you need to refer to like when you write those U-Dev rules.
|
||
|
|
But we always have been for me.
|
||
|
|
All this information could be found in SlashSist or SlashProc, I would assume, right?
|
||
|
|
Well, yeah, that's right.
|
||
|
|
So CatProc input, keyboard or whatever it is, will spit out probably one tenth of the information
|
||
|
|
the single spit-F.
|
||
|
|
Yeah, have to go, then use that time U-Dev, U-Dev admin or U-Dev info or whatever to get another
|
||
|
|
one tenth of it.
|
||
|
|
And with this, it just, the worst thing about this is it bombards you with information.
|
||
|
|
And if you specifically don't know what you wanted to look, what you were looking for,
|
||
|
|
you know, you might give you too much.
|
||
|
|
Right, yeah.
|
||
|
|
And that's where the grip comes in handy.
|
||
|
|
You can start.
|
||
|
|
Yeah, exactly, yeah.
|
||
|
|
If Cat hadn't left, you would have been around for that tie-in,
|
||
|
|
for that wonderful union of command, so you're just a scarred.
|
||
|
|
I think HW info is a pro program.
|
||
|
|
I'll bet you anything.
|
||
|
|
And I bet I can find it on D-Pan or something like that.
|
||
|
|
Well gentlemen, I'm going to take this time and hop off here and say goodbye.
|
||
|
|
Well, goodbye, Peg-Wall.
|
||
|
|
Good day, I'm Peggy.
|
||
|
|
You guys take it easy.
|
||
|
|
That'll be a nice day, Peg-Wall.
|
||
|
|
And since Peggy's leaving, I'm going to wrap this up.
|
||
|
|
I think so.
|
||
|
|
I think another tip is in the can.
|
||
|
|
Good night.
|
||
|
|
Good night.
|
||
|
|
Good night, everyone.
|
||
|
|
Good night, Peggy.
|
||
|
|
Good night, Peggy.
|
||
|
|
Good night, Peggy.
|
||
|
|
Good night, Peggy.
|
||
|
|
Good night, Peggy.
|
||
|
|
Good night, Peggy.
|
||
|
|
Good night, Peggy.
|
||
|
|
Good night, Peggy.
|
||
|
|
Good night, Peggy.
|
||
|
|
Good night, Peggy.
|
||
|
|
Good night, Peggy.
|
||
|
|
Good night, Peggy.
|
||
|
|
Good night, Peggy.
|
||
|
|
Good night, Peggy.
|
||
|
|
Good night, Peggy.
|
||
|
|
Good night, Peggy.
|
||
|
|
Good night, Peggy.
|
||
|
|
Good night, Peggy.
|
||
|
|
Good night, Peggy.
|
||
|
|
Good night, Peggy.
|
||
|
|
Good night, Peggy.
|
||
|
|
Good night, Peggy.
|
||
|
|
Good night, Peggy.
|
||
|
|
Good night, Peggy.
|
||
|
|
Good night, Peggy.
|
||
|
|
Good night, Peggy.
|
||
|
|
Good night, Peggy.
|
||
|
|
Good night, Peggy.
|
||
|
|
Good night, Peggy.
|
||
|
|
Good night, Peggy.
|
||
|
|
Good night, Peggy.
|
||
|
|
Good night, Peggy.
|
||
|
|
Good night, Peggy.
|
||
|
|
Good night, Peggy.
|
||
|
|
Good night, Peggy.
|
||
|
|
Good night, Peggy.
|
||
|
|
Good night, Peggy.
|
||
|
|
Good night, Peggy.
|
||
|
|
Good night, Peggy.
|
||
|
|
Good night, Peggy.
|
||
|
|
Good night, Peggy.
|
||
|
|
Good night, Peggy.
|
||
|
|
Good night, Peggy.
|
||
|
|
Good night, Peggy.
|
||
|
|
Good night, Peggy.
|
||
|
|
Good night, Peggy.
|
||
|
|
Good night, Peggy.
|
||
|
|
Good night, Peggy.
|
||
|
|
Good night, Peggy.
|
||
|
|
One great life's a great life.
|
||
|
|
Try and change this view.
|
||
|
|
And pay all I've is a fly.
|
||
|
|
Then hold it, except for anytime.
|
||
|
|
In love with the costumes and planes.
|
||
|
|
And fly again.
|
||
|
|
And fly again.
|
||
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