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Episode: 4542
Title: Can Haiku Mumble?
Source: https://hub.hackerpublicradio.org/ccdn.php?filename=/eps/hpr4542/hpr4542.mp3
Transcribed: 2026-07-31 16:13:34 (official HPR transcript)

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This is Hacker Public Radio Episode 4542, for 2025-12-30
Today's show is entitled, "Can Haiku Mumble?"
The host is Claudio Miranda and the duration is 00:10:07
The flag is Clean, and the license is CC-BY-SA
The summary is "Claudio makes good on a promise made during HPR's New Year's Eve Show 2024 and tests Mumble on Haiku"
This is a fun video, this is fun.
Hold on a second.
Ah, much better.
Hello, Hacker Public Radio, this is Claudio Miranda,
and I'm recording this episode for HPR to see if Haiku can mumble.
Now, the reason I'm recording this episode is because
during the Hacker Public Radio New Year's Eve show last year, 2024,
I was wondering if Haiku actually was able to run mumble
in order to be able to connect for the HPR show or to record HPR episodes
or even to just the chat.
And I said I was going to check it out this year,
and it's taken me up until now to record this episode,
so we're going to be testing this.
So I'm sure you're wondering, or not, but I'm going to say it anyway.
What is Haiku?
Aside from a 575 poem, it is an operating system.
It's actually the open source successor to the B operating system
from B incorporated, or it's been shortened as BOS.
It was an operating system that came out in the 90s, early to mid-90s,
and was way ahead of its time with preemptive multitasking
compared to Microsoft Windows or macOS at the time,
which only used cooperative multitasking.
And it almost became the operating system for Macintoshes
when Apple was known as a beleaguered company
until Steve Jobs made an offer to Apple
with his next operating system.
And they ended up purchasing it for much less
than what B was selling it for.
And they got Steve Jobs in the package
as interim CEO and then CEO.
And the rest is history.
That eventually became macOS 10 and today's macOS.
As for B-Inc, B-Inc not having been able to sell to Apple,
tried various other ways to bring BOS to the market,
but it was unsuccessful thanks to a lot of what Microsoft
was doing at the time and with their OEM partners.
But anyway, all of that I'm sure you can find.
I'm going to put it on the show notes
the Wikipedia page for BOS and its history
and also the homepage for Haiku.
So if you want to check it out.
Now I've also included the homepage for Mumble
so that you can be familiar with it in case you're not.
Anyway, so once B-Inc ceased to be
and the B operating system was sold to other companies,
some developers wanted to kind of bring it back
as an open source project,
taking what was already open source
and trying to build off of that
to recreate an open source version of what was BOS.
And it originally became known as OpenBOS,
but then it changed a few names.
And eventually, as the project started to come together
and really take off, it was called Haiku.
It's been around for a good while
and the latest version is R1 Beta 5,
which you can download from the website in the show notes.
But I am using a nightly snapshot.
So this one I have been using
and I updated it to the latest snapshot
for December 19th, 2025.
And that is hrev59233.
So I'm going to go ahead and install Mumble.
First, I'm going to check in Haiku Depot,
which is the graphical software package manager for Haiku.
Let's see if I can find it.
Haiku Depot, there it is.
Now, you'll find a number of apps here
that have been ported over since.
The project is quite old at this point.
I guess you can say it's around 20 years old at this point.
So I would say it's pretty mature,
even though it is still in beta form.
Quite usable.
It's a single-user operating system.
So that's the way it was designed.
They wanted to keep that as the...
They wanted to keep that...
The Haiku developers wanted to keep that
as one of the features of the operating system,
even though it's...
They wanted to keep it more as a personal operating system,
as opposed to having it be multi-user.
So anyway, back to Haiku Depot.
Searching for Mumble.
And there it is on the list.
I already have it installed.
The version in here is 1.5.634-1.
So that's already installed.
And I'm going to set it up right now.
Oh, one other thing that I wanted to say
is that there's also a command line package...
PackageManager command called pkgman
that works very much like apt on Linux,
on Debian-based systems.
So if you do a packageman-h,
it should give you all the commands.
But there's both ways to do it.
So let's go ahead and launch Mumble.
I already have it installed, as I said.
All right, Mumble here.
Now, initially, what it will...
It may go through the...
Because I've already sort of set this up
on this installation of Haiku.
You may get the audio wizard.
Now, one of the things...
Because I like to use push-to-talk.
And I recommend that everybody does as well.
And I think for the HPR New Year's Eve show,
this is required.
You can go through that.
But the problem is that
when you get to the part of push-to-talk,
when you want to add the keys to use
to trigger push-to-talk,
it doesn't really work.
So what I'm going to do first,
I'm going to connect here
to the Mumble server,
which for the HPR,
which is chatter.skyhaven.net.
Okay.
I'm going to add new
when I want to connect to the server.
And then I will put that there.
The port is 64738.
My name is Claudio M.
And then select connect.
Oh, okay.
Sorry.
Once I have that set,
I'm going to select
chatter.skyhaven.net.
Connect.
And I should be connected.
It says server connected.
Perfect.
So I'm going to set up push-to-talk.
I'm going to go to configure.
Settings.
And I'm going to go to audio input.
And where it says transmission,
I'm going to set it to push-to-talk.
And then when I scroll down,
because for whatever reason
this has the audio cue,
I disable that for push-to-talk
because it's very annoying.
So once you have that set,
say okay.
Oh, one other thing that I set also
because you can't configure the keys.
There is, under transmission,
there is a box to check
that says display push-to-talk window.
It basically opens a little window
where you push it
and it activates push-to-talk.
So I have that somewhere
in the window here.
Sounds.
So I'm going to move my user,
my username,
over to the audio test section
so that I get the repeater.
Okay, it's all set up.
I have the mimic-claudio-m user there now.
And I'm going to test it out.
And you should be able to hear it.
Testing, one, two, three.
Takes a little longer.
Testing, one, two, three.
And there you go.
So push-to-talk is working on this.
Mumble is working.
I can actually set up a Haiku machine
and with Mumble
to connect to the HPR
Mumble server
so that I can chit-chat with everybody
when the HPR New Year's Eve 2025 show kicks in.
So that's it.
It works.
Mumble, HPR,
HPR.
Haiku can mumble.
Yes, it can.
And hopefully my mumbling in the beginning
didn't distract you.
Like I said,
I have all the information here in the show notes
including the link for the HPR New Year's Eve show
and also the page on how to connect
to the HPR community room using Mumble
because that one's not directly linked
on the HPR New Year's Eve show page.
So it's all going to be there.
Hopefully one of the janitors
will see if they can modify that
or make it easily available for visitors.
Anyway, it's going to do it for me.
This has been Claudio Miranda
and tune in next time
for another exciting episode
of Hacker Public Radio.
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