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Episode: 4586
Title: HPR Community News for February 2026
Source: https://hub.hackerpublicradio.org/ccdn.php?filename=/eps/hpr4586/hpr4586.mp3
Transcribed: 2026-07-31 16:14:33 (official HPR transcript)

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This is Hacker Public Radio Episode 4586, for 2026-03-02
Today's show is entitled, "HPR Community News for February 2026"
The host is HPR Volunteers and the duration is 01:12:12
The flag is Explicit, and the license is CC-BY-SA
The summary is "HPR Volunteers Kevie and Ken talk about shows released and comments posted in February 2026"
Hi everybody, my name is Ken Fallon. You're listening to another episode of Hacker Public Radio.
This is the HPR Community News for January 2026.
Murphy is very strong tonight, folks. Joining me from Scotland is...
Gary! And actually, I'm making it despite last month's missing in action,
which I can't put the blame on anybody but myself.
No, I bet it was to do with me. You're just annoyed with me, I could tell.
It's the only explanation. Anyway, HPR is a community podcast where the show is submitted very much from listeners like you.
If you haven't submitted a show, please consider doing so.
If you're new to this whole concept, we're a podcast that's basically a virtual hacker space.
And not only do we give presentations, but we also chat in the coffee corner.
That is us. And we are the janitors who go around and make sure everything's humming along.
Kevi and I are just two of the many janitors and people that help out.
If you want to help out, feel free to do so.
Get in touch with admin at hackerpublicradio.org and we can find something for you to do.
Oh, yes, we can.
This show is the Community New Show where we go through all the stuff that's been happening in the HPR community for the last month.
Mostly comments that have been posted to HPR episodes.
If you can, please comment on an episode.
If you liked it or found something interesting in an episode, please comment.
Comments are the currency by which we pay our hosts.
And it also makes our job a lot easier because then we just need to comment on the show, read out your comments for this episode.
So, without further ado, Kevi, could you introduce the new hosts for this month?
Yes, of course.
And our new ones joining us this month were Vance and not Toby.
So, please allow me to welcome you to the hosts and it's great to have you here.
It's fantastic to get new hosts and to get two in one month is absolutely fantastic.
So, let's keep that up for the rest of the month and see if we can beat our new host record from last year.
So, the first show of last month was the HPR Community News for January 2026.
And it was a show with seven comments already.
The first of which was from Whiskeyjack.
Yes, and he says,
Community News for January.
Scheduling of episodes.
I am a relatively new contributor, having sent in my first episode in November.
Before that, I was a long-time listener.
I have submitted 10 episodes so far, some of which are yet to be aired.
I think the current system is pretty good and should be kept with only a few minor changes.
I like being able to pick slots.
I feel additional motivation to contribute by being able to pick a slot and know that my episode would air on a predictable schedule rather than go into a long queue and turn up at some distant date in the future.
I contribute episodes to have them aired, not to fill a queue.
I will make three short points.
One, your own scheduling guidelines encourage existing contributors to leave some near-term slots open for new contributors.
Inevitably, this will result in shows from the reserve queue being required to be used if a new contributor does not show up.
If that is not what you intend, then you need to clarify these guidelines.
Two, the messages calling for new shows may sometimes sound a bit alarming.
If people interpret these as a sign that HPR is dying, they may actually discourage them from contributing.
I think the contribution requests need to be careful to spur people to action without sounding overly alarming.
Three, make it easier to post show notes.
Currently, the text box to paste the show notes into seems to be limited to about 4,000 characters.
It would be easier for contributors if they could simply copy-paste their entire script into this box instead of jumping through additional hoops.
I'm currently working on new episodes and hope to post them in a few weeks.
Thanks to all the volunteers for all their efforts.
To which I respond regarding, one, scheduling guidelines.
I think the guidelines are clear on the point.
If you can suggest any improvements, please do so.
So point three says, always try and fill any free slots that are available in the upcoming two weeks.
And point four says, when the queue is filling up, leave some slots free for new contributors.
Regarding your second point, messages calling about alarming messages.
Yeah, we're going to tone it down depending on how urgent it is.
And easier to post show notes.
The limit has been removed, but we need to redo the how-to page, which has been done.
And just side note there, it's a WYSIWY, guys.
Editor now, so just post them as you would expect them to be.
And include full-size images.
We automatically make thumbnails, so don't worry too much about formatting.
If there's a big image in there, we will make a thumbnail of it.
And instead of alt test, can you put a description underneath the image for everybody to see about what the image is?
And you can go on to the next comment.
Right, so Whiskey Jack says, response to Ken Fallon, episode scheduling guidelines.
Rule three says, to always try and fill slots in the upcoming two weeks.
Rule four says, when the queue is filling up, to leave slots free for new contributors.
Rule five says, to post non-urgent shows into the first empty week.
Three and five seem to contradict one another, as most shows will be non-urgent.
Four is unclear as to what filling up means in practical terms.
Long-time contributors will have a good feel for what they should be doing.
And first-time contributors should use the first free slot.
But someone on a second or third episode can find navigating the rules a bit confusing.
Things like this should always be looked at from the perspective of someone who is relatively new to contributing podcasts when judging how clear the guidelines are.
Very valid point, actually.
Anyway, I reply, you're right.
I've always considered them to be in order, meaning that you do rule one first, and if not rule one, then rule two, etc.
Perhaps that's why people have been struggling with these rules for so long.
I'm genuinely open to suggestions on how to improve it, but would appreciate moving the conversation to a GIT-T ticket,
which is at repo.anonasthost.net forward slash hpr forward slash hpr underscore documentation forward slash issue forward slash 17.
Those are numbers.
Right, and there's two more ones here I'm going to read out.
One by Candy Cane Artar, 07.
My two cents, I think a good middle ground could be to have a short-term queue that a show could go into if the creator doesn't care when exactly it appears.
That way, the explicit date reservations can have more priority.
Whiskey Jack replies, responds to Candy Cane Artar 07 in episode scheduling.
I think the existing episode scheduling system is really good.
It could possibly be improved with a few minor tweaks, but I think the existing system is the product of long experience and shouldn't be overthrown without good reason.
Once such tweak may be to let the maintainers reschedule shows, which don't need to be on a specific date, forwards or backwards to some degree,
to open up slots for newcomers or to fill empty slots.
They may do this already, for all I know.
This perhaps could be automated with a script.
The root of the problem is not enough new contributors.
It would only take a handful of new regular contributors to keep hpr going with plenty of new episodes.
So, I respond to those rescheduling shows, which don't need to be on a specific date, forwards and backwards.
For us to Candy Cane Artar, I don't know if I directly responded to that, but a short-term queue, that is what the reserve queue is supposed to be, a short-term queue.
So, you either pick the day or you don't.
These are your options.
You pick the day, you don't pick the day.
If you pick the day, that's it.
Anyway, my response.
Before a show is posted, its ID is more or less the key which you get when you upload.
Once it's posted, the unique ID is the hpr episode number.
Moving the primary key leads to a mess in the synchronization of files between the hpr sites, the Internet Archive, and the hpr community content delivery network.
We've had to do it in the past, so I'm again speaking from experience here.
We move shows from a host, which happened to be part two, and then it got aired before part one, which meant we had four shows then that we needed to move.
So, we never move a show without getting permission from the hosts.
Or, if they don't get back to us, and we feel it's important enough, we need permission from the mail list.
Now, practically speaking, moving shows breaks some RSS readers that only look at the enclosure URL element.
If that remains the same, then there's no reason to download it again.
So, anyone who has already downloaded any of the move shows will not download them again.
So, it basically breaks the entire future feed.
Moving a show can easily spiral into a lot of work.
We will, and have done it on occasion.
But if it's urgent enough, you should request a slot.
Now, I can't stress this enough.
The janitors really, and I mean really, do not like to move shows once they're posted.
So, that's the comment.
But I don't think it, I don't think my text describes how much I really do not want you to move a show.
If you don't care about when it goes in, put it into the reserve queue.
It'll come out at some point.
If you do care about when it's going in, put it into the main queue.
If, for some reason, you can't record a show on a particular day, and you know that you want it on that day,
put it requested on the mail list to reserve a slot so that the audio will be available on that day.
If we do go to moving a show, then it should be up to you to contact the host.
And even if you've got the host's permission, there's no guarantee that I or anybody else will be available to do all the messing and hacking that's necessary in order to move shows from one place to the other.
So, do not move shows.
Your options are pick a slot or put it in the reserve queue.
Oh, ding.
Yay.
So, with that, we move on to movie recommendations for hackers.
An overview of movies related to cyber security and hacker crime.
So, that was the following day by Delta Re.
Now, I know this is going against the tradition of the community news.
However, I looked at the list.
There was still quite a few of these I wanted.
And he starts the show with, don't listen to this if you want to watch any of these movies.
I will have spoilers.
So, this is actually one I didn't listen to after this first initial line.
So, I can happily comment on this episode.
It was a fantastic rundown of, well, basically, I will tell you what Delta Ray was doing.
Quite often, you, in work, you'll go like, you know, this is Unix.
I know this.
Or, you know, things from hacker movies.
Quotes from hacker movies.
Open the pod bay doors, Hal.
You know, particularly when we're talking about AI.
I'm afraid I can't do that, Dave.
So, all these comments, a lot of the, he would say, a lot of us younger co-workers don't know how to do, don't know about those because they haven't watched these hacker movies.
And then he left DVDs in the office for people to watch them.
And then he realized that people didn't have DVDs.
So, but basically, here's the list.
If you're looking for, to get into hacking, etc.
If you're going to be working in IT, these are the ones that you should be looking at.
And I would say you also need to look at the IT crowd for the old classic, have you turned it off and on again meme.
Oh, I mean, surely that's not even optional watching.
The IT crowd is a must if you get any relation to computers at all.
Exactly.
And that's why I think this one proved particularly popular in the comments.
Did you want to start?
Yes, no problem.
King Hesie, first comment, Office Space Lundberg.
I thought the ending had accidentally slowed down to half speed until I realized it was a Lundberg impression.
Well done.
Antoine says, an attractive invitation to watch.
I felt urged to watch some movies on this list.
I may have only watched two or three.
The show was very good.
An attractive invitation to see some of the ones you commented on.
Thanks.
And Henry Kerman says, inspiring recommendations.
Several in your list that I get inspired to watch and some to watch again.
I first watched the movie The Lives of Others first time when I took the course Integrity, Technology and Surveillance as part of the Human Rights Program.
It is really good and very relevant today, although the methods are different.
By coincidence, this HPR episode has a nice connection to the episode next day.
Claudio M says, awesome episode.
Thanks for the awesome rundown of these hacker-influenced movies.
It sure was fun to listen to the ones you discussed.
I was especially curious about The Lives of Others.
And yes, the following HPR episode did have a good connection with this.
Looking forward to watching The Lives of Others in German as I'm trying to improve my language, my learning of the language.
Another movie that is hacker-based is called Who Am I?
Also German.
It's a very action-y from what I saw in the trailer, but sure caught my interest due to the topic and the language.
Might want to check that one out as well.
And Jim DeVore comments, great show.
I collect movie recommendations and try to watch them when they appear on my streaming devices.
What a great list.
I have only seen about half of the list.
Hobbs says, loved the show.
Added these all to my re-watch list.
Thought you might also add HCF, Halt and Catch Fire to your list.
The first couple of seasons of HBO Classic, our classic Silicon Valley meets Mr. Robot.
One of my favourite hacker-maker shows of all time.
Yes, and the next day we had book reading by Cuckoo's Egg, The Cuckoo's Egg by Cliff Stoll.
About the book The Cuckoo's Egg, starting by looking back at my experience from that time period.
And this show was about, from Henrik, of course, and it was interesting, his background in computing and working as a Swedish telecom provider, etc., etc.
And how a book can inspire you.
And even though it may be a little bit out of date, it was still relevant.
Yeah, absolutely.
I thoroughly enjoyed this one.
And, of course, I think this is for one of a, people of a certain age will very much appreciate this.
Absolutely.
Yes.
So, the next day we had another episode with a lot of comments.
It was kiosk with guest mode on Linux.
And this was from Klaatu, about setting up a kiosk at your library, basically to wipe out your, to come up with a computer.
And when somebody logs out, that their personal information or logins aren't accidentally kept in a public place.
And this would try and do it for as much as possible.
Operator says, we can't think of any other files, but other than the home folder that you want to consignatize,
cognitant of dash temp.
Okay.
Can't think of any other folder, but other than the home folder, you might want to be cognizant of is slash temp.
Sorry about that.
That was me, not operator, obviously.
I just remembered the old days of PHP having binaries running out of the temp folders.
Ooh, ouch.
I had a script that would go through every single virtual machine, search for binaries running out of weird places,
and would find rootkits all over the place.
And Candy Cane Arter07, very informative.
I most likely won't need to use this anytime soon, but it's always good to have things like this in your tool belt.
It's also great practice.
Jim DeVores says, I learned some things that I will try out.
Agreed.
A guest account is great for visitors to my home for all the reasons cited.
I have wondered how you added hooks for login and logout, in my case, for mapping SMB shares.
That's a window share.
Would the GDM hooks work for that?
Question.
Candy Cane Arter, who responds to that exact one.
For mounting network drives, I would recommend using RC clone.
Also, many display managers scan for a .x profile file on login.
So, the next day, we had one for you, I guess, playing Civilization Part 5, Part 8, Computer Games, Strategies, etc.
And this one was about diplomacy.
City, states, spies and FBI, diplomats.
I have no interest in playing this, I have to tell you.
But I am fascinated by how much effort people have gone in to write these games.
Absolutely.
Yeah, it's really, it was a really good one I was just talking about.
And something that very often can get, people can tend to get in these types of games, we can ignore the kind of in-between.
You know, because he talks about how we tend to think of people, you know, in other players, or maybe you should compute our opponents, should I say.
You can be neutral, you can be friendly, or you can be kind of hostile.
But actually, there's quite a lot down on this where you can be.
So, there's neutral, there's friendly, there's afraid, there's guarded, there's deceptive, there's hostile, and there's also at war.
So, they're going to depend on, you know, a lot of the things.
So, are you an economic powerhouse?
Although you may think you're friendly with them, they might be more afraid of you.
You know, are you a strong military presence again?
Maybe that might lead more people to be a bit more hostile towards you.
So, you know, it's just, I love the fact of, he's talking about a game here, and it's not a playthrough, it's not a how-to.
He's just talking about the different strategies that are there, and it's going to be different for each one.
Yeah, keep him coming, keep him coming.
Yeah, absolutely.
And, sorry guys, this has to be my most favourite episode of the month.
And, I know all the rest of you, probably the year, and possibly of all time, data processing, respective.
Lee talks to his mum about her history with computers.
This was just a lovely, lovely episode.
Yeah, absolutely it was.
And it was just, it was one of those episodes, I don't know, you just, you felt like you didn't want it to go.
You know, it was like, oh, come on, keep talking, keep talking.
The only thing I was missing, Lee, was a cup of tea and a nice bun, possibly a muffin with a bit of jam, just sitting there in the corner, on the couch, listening to the episode.
That's how I felt about this one.
Henrik says, conversation, I liked your conversation.
That says it all there.
Absolutely.
And then Biza adds a special episode.
I really enjoyed this conversation with your mum.
It is inevitable that one day you will treasure this recording more than you can ever imagine now.
I've just, I just, I'd had, maybe that's what I wish was supposed to be there.
I just wish I'd had the foresight to do something similar.
And to be honest, this is something, it doesn't have to be released as an HPR episode.
But, you know, recording, we have such great technology in our pockets, the vast majority of us.
You know, these people who are really experienced, these people who we love to sit down and talk to and have a cup of tea with or whatever, get out the phone and say, do you mind if I record this?
Because I've done it once with somebody.
And it was funny.
He was such a special guy.
And he recorded, he recorded it when he was 88, 89.
You know, he's passed on now.
It was a few years ago.
But, you know, going back to have that, it's invaluable.
It's great.
Yeah, absolutely.
Which reminds me of something on my to-do list.
I have an episode of somebody who's passed away that needs to go out.
The following day, we had Uncommon Commands, Episode 3, S-Trace.
And my, my oh my, this one went into my, I will use this immediately at work episode.
Yes, this is fantastic.
Ken Fallon says, my future self thanks you.
I'm wondering how long it will be before I use this in prod.
And the answer to that question was about 12 minutes.
Well, I have to confess, before I go on to reading Candy Cane Art, or Seven's comment,
yeah, I really enjoyed this.
I had one issue with it, though.
I actually listened to this episode while I was out for a walk in the nice weather.
And I was like, I've got to get back and listen to this in front of a computer.
It's on my, I've got it saved.
The bug file's there.
I've got it saved.
I'm going to do it, but I haven't got around it yet, because it was quite a busy month.
No, that's, that's absolutely fine.
And that's the thing about HPR episodes.
And that's why we introduce the host at the beginning of the episode.
So you kind of have a, have an idea of what it's going to be.
And you go, okay, I'm going to skip over this one, not go into the lead.
I'm just going to skip over this one and do this one while I'm in front of my computer.
Well, actually, I didn't skip over it.
I did listen to it, but I thought I'm going to re-download it again.
Re-re-listen to it.
I did the same.
I listened on my way into work and then scooted up, had a coffee, sat down and went, all right, can I do this in prod?
So, CandyKidR.07, fantastic learning and debugging tool.
This is such a cool tool I wish I knew about earlier.
The ability to see what syscalls and opened files are used by a program without even needing the source code is amazing.
Some guy in the entry that says, it's magic.
Thank you for this knowledge.
I now have unlimited power.
Time to s-trace everything.
Spoiler alert.
Do not s-trace top.
Happy hacking, colon, WQ.
And Paul J.
He forgot the escape there, just by the way.
And the next comment by Paul J.
Great information.
I have used s-trace on a few occasions, but never developed a real understanding of its capability.
Many thanks for explaining clearly what it can do.
I shall have a closer look.
Yes.
The following day, sorry.
No, no.
I was just going to say, yes, he echoes my sentiment entirely there.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
The following day was Whiskeyjack with thorium reactors this time.
There were no comments on this, but there were comments on Mastodon, et cetera, on the social medias.
And this one was very popular and led to some discussions over there.
So this is a fantastic little series and is exactly what we like here on HPR.
Absolutely.
I mean, and I made the comment to yourself on camera.
Was it Telegram?
Was it on Mastodon?
But I remember saying that I'm enjoying this so much.
I've got a general rule to myself is I'm listening to them as they come out.
I'm not using the future feed.
This one has me so tempted to go pulling them off, but I'm not.
I'm avoiding the temptation.
I do listen to them on the future feed, but this one I actually re-listen to when they come out on the regular feed
because there were so many of them that I wanted to have a quick listen again.
So the following day, we had Unix Curios 01, an introduction.
And this is by new host Vance.
Welcome.
Fantastic series.
And true to his word, series two is in there already.
It's in the queue.
And a little bit about his background and this whole Unix Curio thing.
Yeah, really good to see.
Actually, I thoroughly enjoyed this one.
And it has left you, you know, it's a good introduction.
I mean, this is probably something I must have been bad at.
I mean, I'll introduce something at the start of maybe a series if I'm going to do a series.
But it just means it's a longer show.
Yeah.
Interesting one, the man file hierarchy, which is an interesting one, actually.
You know, you just threw that little, threw that, sorry, I'm doing my Irish accent, threw the trailer there.
Man file hierarchy.
Man file hierarchy in at the end, which I actually was in the train station and booted up my computer to type that in on the console.
So, one thing that, just from a technical point of view, he wanted to have a new series.
And the thing about the series on HPR is we're trying to minimize that as much as possible.
But there is obviously a need for people to have some way of, you know, I'm doing a topic.
I'm doing an all-go shows on a particular topic.
And they might be.
Explicitly, here is a HPR episode on, or a ham radio episode.
So, it's a ham radio episode.
So, that's that.
And that's the thing about a series.
We can only have, you can only be in one series.
But you can have multiple tags.
So, if you go to any episode and click on the hosted by blah, blah, blah, blah, and then there's the tags.
If you click on that particular tag, you'll get brought to the tag page, which will go to that episode, Unix Curios.
And we'll show you all the episodes in that air quotes series or that group.
Probably call them group.
And we can maybe increase that or improve that a little bit somehow that each of the tags get their own sub page, perhaps.
And that way, we're a lot more flexible on having multiple tags.
So, what he's doing for his episodes is he's going to put in the tag Unix Curio, and then we should be able to get directly to all the episodes related to that, just as a by the by.
Yeah, absolutely.
The tags are good.
And especially for searching up anything.
Yeah, really good.
So, we had a few comments on this one.
So, Brian in Ohio says, this will be a good series.
I enjoyed episode zero.
Thanks for producing the show.
I'm looking forward to future episodes.
Wah, wah, wah, wah, wah.
Ah, Vance says, thanks, Brian in Ohio.
The next episode is all written and will be coming soon.
I have to admit, I have no experience with fourth at all.
Also, I won't be a subject I cover.
Hopefully, you find topics I choose to be interesting anyway.
Smiley face.
And Paul Jay comments, thanks for your first show on upcoming series.
Welcome to HPR, Vance, and thanks for your first show.
I don't have a beard.
What kind of geek are you?
Seriously, Paul.
Come on.
Clean shaven geek.
We're not having this.
I don't have a beard, but I first had an account on a Unix system running on a pyramid mainframe in 1986, and I'm still learning.
I look forward to your future shows.
And the next day, we had an episode by myself with my, what do we call them, Elmer case, and we made finally, finally my first contact on HPR, or ever on amateur radio.
So, I have one contact down, done undusted.
Yeah, I enjoyed this one, and I also like the fact that you were doing the live testing, you know, on the show.
So, yeah, like you said, it was just entertainment.
I'm not into ham radio, so a lot of it was a bit over my head, but it didn't spoil my listening to it.
It's, yeah, it was nice.
And another show, which I'm going to ask Case to do about how to fill in the various different cards, etc.
So, he already sent me his card, which I have now on my desk, and I need to send him one.
So, did I pick that up right in the show, in that you have to produce like a diary of every conversation, more or less?
I'm assuming it's not.
Not in the UK or in the Netherlands, you can just talk.
However, in Ireland, you do need to keep a log of all your entries.
And what they, in the UK, they recommend that, say, you're having problems with your neighbors,
and they're saying, you know, your big aerial is interfering with my enjoyment of my TV or something.
If you maintain a log, then you can show that you are active at these particular times.
And it kind of helps in your defense, you know, if you can go and say, well, what times were you complaining about the thing?
And then on that day, you weren't even transmitting.
So, you know, the source, then it's up to them to prove that it was from you, and you have evidence to show that it wasn't.
Ah, right.
Okay.
Yeah, thanks for clearing that.
Back in the day, you were supposed to log all your contacts, yeah.
Right.
Okay, then.
Okay, so this is where, like I said, not having the experience or not knowing that much about it, you tend to get down a wee bit lost with that.
But thank you for clearing that up.
No bother.
Nobody cared.
Nobody cared about it.
Nobody commented.
You covered it that thoroughly.
We didn't actually need to ask any questions.
Look at it that way.
I don't need any pep talks.
I don't need to be paid.
Fine, fine.
I know where I stand.
The next one was in response to Lee and Elspeth episode, yet another white male's opinion.
And what we could do here is in the tags, just put in the episode number that you're referring to, and it'll automatically, well, we might get it to automatically link and stuff.
So let's do that.
There was one comment, and that comment was from Elspeth herself.
Thank you.
Thank you for sharing your perspective here.
That was promoted by Lee and I's discussion on women's in.
I was prompted by Lee and my own discussion on women in IT.
I wanted to formulate my thoughts better and see about recording a response to your response here.
Oh, we love that.
I believe that this would be more thought out than Miriam replying here now.
Just wanted you to know that while I have thoughts on your show, both positive and confused, not negative, and had to listen to the whole show and appreciate the time and effort that you put into it.
So basically, yes, I'll be doing a response episode, and thank you for the show, which is great.
Yes, absolutely.
And the next day, not these two again.
Seriously, are they never off HPR?
We're sick of them.
Not at all.
I liked this one, so I did.
A wee heavy.
I've heard that on so many TV shows.
Oh, I'm going in for a wee heavy.
I had no idea that it was an actual drink that you actually go to the bar and actually ask for.
Yes, but as I did say on the show, it's disappointing that it's a drink that's kind of almost vanishing from there.
Even in its own native Scotland, it's a wee heavy.
Yeah, so I'm really enjoying doing these.
Maybe no surprise there.
No.
And Khan Annam, anonymous, I'm assuming, without a name.
Scotch Ale from the Baltic Sea.
German brewery Stolke Becker from Stolzsund has a Scotch Ale at 9% ABV.
However, aside from the ABV, it's one of those styles brewed with peat-kilned barley.
As they describe a peaty and malty, extraordinary taste.
Sláinte mai.
Do you know what's weird?
Is that I can follow Scots Gaelic easier than I can Connemara Gaelic.
Really?
Yeah.
That's weird.
The truth is I can follow neither of them.
That is okay.
That is okay.
We allow Rangers fans to exist.
I could care less about football.
We do tend to have one or two beverages, whether the game's being played or not, whether we're
winning or losing, so in.
Fantastic.
Can you put in a comment for this show telling us what the beers for an upcoming month are
going to be?
Oh, yes.
No problem.
Yeah, I'll do that.
In fact, I actually put it on and I forgot to.
I said it on the show, but I forgot to actually.
So for this one, the next one is Belgian Scotch Ale.
So we're just going to be continued and the one after that is Baltic Portal.
Yeah.
I saw the, because I post the shows, so I get to see them.
And if you want to see the shows coming up before they're posted, you can join the future
feed, which is our quality control mechanism here on HPR.
So as the shows are posted, so literally when Kevi sends in the show, I find the time to
run the scripts, do all the checks and send it out.
It will be scheduled to come out on whatever day Kevi picks.
Or is it you post somewhere?
Yeah, it's usually me because if it wasn't me, then this person has been very naughty
because the love bug, Dave Lee, posted the next day's show.
It's terrible.
It's terrible.
We need to have words.
And he's also a janitor, so this really is a bad infringement of the rules.
What was I saying?
I can't remember.
Anyway, it doesn't matter.
I'll hear it coming back in the thing.
Oh yeah, yeah.
So if you want to, about the future feed, basically.
If you post the show, it comes out on the day that it's allocated.
But if you just want to hear the full show as they're released with the caveat that if
we need to repost them or if the episode needs to be recorded or there's something in
there that needs to be taken out or if somebody cancels their episode and the slot becomes free
again and you need to post a show in there that it might go a little bit haywire, you can subscribe to the future feed if you press on or on the main page you'll get to us.
But I guess everybody knew that.
Okay, fine.
Moving on.
Next day.
Next day we had Dave Lee and this was actually, although it's uploaded by him, it was more so about his son Alex and Alex's journey into amateur radio.
And even if this presented a problem, I was willing to go to the mail list to make sure it came out ASAP because it's cool.
No, no problem.
No issue at all, in fact.
How old is Alex again?
Sorry.
How old is Alex again?
Is he 13?
Yeah.
And he featured in the RSGB magazine on page 80.
You can see a picture of Alex and well done.
Seven threes to him from all of us here, which Archer says, congrats.
Hi, Alex.
Congratulations on your foundation license.
It was a really nice father-son episode.
Cheers.
There's Archer72 and he gives his call sign as KD9, VMW, Kilo Delta 9, Victor, Mike Whiskey.
And Trey, also has a comment.
And Trey, also has a comment.
Congratulations.
Congratulations, Alex.
What a wonderful episode sharing your experience on this journey.
I wish you the best as you continue to learn more, whether it is as an amateur radio or any of your other interests.
Stay curious.
73, Kilo Bravo 0, Juliet Hotel.
Perfect.
Perfect.
Perfect.
Perfect.
And 73 is a greeting, which you might hear at a football match, if you hear this.
Ah, okay.
Anyhoo.
Morse code.
There you go.
Happy by shower on what makes me joyful when I'm destroyed.
Spoiler and anchor, I hope, from Antoine.
And Candy Canater says, timing.
This episode happened to come at a perfect time for me.
Well, probably shouldn't say this in such a happy voice.
This episode happened to come at a perfect time for me, since I'm going through a massive drama with another creative group that is destroying me right now.
Thanks for this.
And he responds with, hey, Candy Canater, 07, thanks for the support and comment.
What a deep situation here.
May it come fine with, in the end, love and hug.
Super.
And Candy Canater, hope things are going okay.
Absolutely, yes.
Don't panic.
We're with you.
Get a rubber chicken.
That is the key.
That's it.
And, uh, the following day, are we up to the end of the month?
No, we're not.
We're up to the 20th.
A lot of comments this month, but none for this show.
This is the first Doctor Part 4.
Continuing look at Doctor Who.
I'm enjoying these because it's, uh, it's basically about, you know, a classic series that, uh, I can't say I watched back in the day.
Because even when the ones that were out, I was behind the couch.
Uh, so, yes.
The Daleks master plan.
It's good to get the background and the lowdown and the sky.
It's like, uh, like a gossip column for what was going on.
Yeah, absolutely.
I've thoroughly enjoyed these.
And I have to admit, it's inspired me to go back and actually watch Doctor Who from the start.
The dashed problem is there are so many missing episodes.
I've watched an awful lot of animations and remakes and things.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But, uh, so I, um, yeah, he's still on William Hartnell, who I really liked as a Doctor.
Uh, and I can actually watch this because I want to keep a wee bit ahead.
And I have just finished the first Doctor and we're going on to the second Doctor now.
So I'm just starting that second Doctor.
Perfect timing.
The next day there were three comments because it was a new host.
And that new host's name was Not Toby.
Not Toby or Toby or Not Toby.
That is the question.
Sharp intake of breath, aka also known as how I learned to stop worrying about the colon,
open bracket, close bracket, open curly bracket, space, colon, pipe, colon,
uppersand, space, curly bracket, semicolon, colon.
Which had me putting the show into quarantine, blocking it immediately,
double checking the audio, making sure everything was gone.
Because that, my friends, is a fork bomb, uh, which is a way to try it in a virtual machine.
Do not try it on your, on your local computer unless you've got a lot of work.
Um, unless you have saved all your work.
No, definitely not.
And Archer72 says, first episode, hi, not to be.
This was an interesting first episode with a lot to unpack.
Yes, Microsoft did ruin everything.
BMX and skateboarding might be an interesting topic.
Would like to hear more about automation scripts.
Definitely of interest to hackers.
Computers is the bicycle of the mind.
100% agree.
BSDs and MacBooks is interesting.
Linux outlaws.
Thank you for reminding me of these guys.
And finally, good comparison and contrast of the open BSD and free BSDs.
If none of that makes any sense to you, listen to the episode.
And Trey comments with, welcome, fantastic first episode.
It was a pleasure getting to know you in this episode.
I look forward to your next episodes.
And Steve Barron says, potted plant emoji.
He doesn't.
But as we haven't updated the database, I had to replace it with a potted plant emoji.
Anyway, even though I had a bug open about this, I could not figure out why the comment was not going through.
And then, anyway, I will fix that too.
By the way, in the process of debugging that, I found like two or three other issues as well that I need to fix.
Congratulations on finally contributing an episode.
I enjoyed the unacquainting ramble while giving my cat a little time outdoors.
Yeah, this was a really good episode.
Thoroughly enjoyed it, actually.
Just talking about, just essentially going through everything, a bit of a right up to this point.
And what's actually quite distinct was, it wasn't just a case of how I got into Linux.
It was also a case of how I actually got into Linux and decided it's really not for me.
So then went more hardcore with BSD.
Yep.
I loved it.
And, as a surprise, we have the New Year's show coming out in February.
Who'd have thought?
Crikey.
Honky Magoo and, who is it?
Hemingway, not Hemingway.
Lovecraft.
Yes, Lovecraft.
Sorry, can never remember your name.
Huge apologies.
But, H.P. Lovecraft and some guy on the internet do a fantastic job on the show note links.
Literally, if somebody has a conversation and they're pointing to, I've got this earbud and I went to that site and I got that, there will be links in the show notes.
It is a monumental effort.
And these episodes are not short.
No, no.
And actually, I was able, thankfully, usually I get about an hour in, I was able to listen to the whole thing this time.
So, yep, thoroughly enjoyed it.
And also, I'm actually going to give a private shout out to Candy Cane Arter for giving Tux Jam a link as well.
So, yeah, very much appreciated.
Good stuff.
And that was, I think, I think that comment actually reminded me that I hadn't listened to Tux Jam.
And then I went back and listened to Tux Jam as a result of that comment.
Or possibly.
Or no, that was from last year's show.
Okay, ignore me.
I don't know what I'm talking about.
Small modular reactors is something else I don't know about.
But now I know enough to waffle in a pub.
This was SMRs.
And I have heard, I've seen them proposed as a solution for, you know, small scale cities or towns or whatever.
And, yeah, it was good to see who's actually using them, where they're using them and stuff like that.
Yeah, it was really interesting, actually.
And actually, I liked how he made the comparison as well with the shipbuilding industry, which obviously is kind of, I'm more familiar with being from Scotland rather than making reactors.
But, you know, I liked how he made the comparison.
You know, he was saying the general idea was that previously they were generally built up more or less on site.
But in much the same way as a ship, an old-time ship would be built just from bottom up and the whole thing would go in one.
Whereas, you know, now they make ships by sections and then put the sections together.
And this is generally the idea is they are put together.
They're made so that they can be modularized.
But it also reduces the time spent, actually, in their final place for human interaction.
So, yeah, I actually really enjoyed this as well.
Great episode.
The following day, we had a show by Archer72 demonstrating three different forms of mics, and some are better than the others.
Links, obviously, in the show notes to all of these.
I did like the H1, Zoom H1 Essential.
I have a H2 at home.
H1 would be nice.
And I do like these episodes where people send in a show with samples of different audios because it gives you a good idea of what to spend your money on.
Absolutely, yes.
And it really is good, especially if they're not cleaned up or anything, because you're getting the true kind of sound of it.
Yeah, well, we do kind of process a bit of processing on the episodes.
Martin Winpress from the Late Night Linux podcast has produced a tool for their podcast, and it is looking very interesting from the point of view that it normalizes
and does attempts to replicate what old-school analog mixing boards did back in the day using pre-compiled version of FFmpeg.
And that is currently in the testing phase here on HPR to see if we will be using that as part of our regular workflow.
So that might be something that's coming up.
We have our audio experts, audio files here on HPR.
Please contribute to that discussion.
Get in touch with me or Martin or basically check out the code and run it.
We have a lot of source audio files here on HPR where we could see if the improvement is something that we want to do or not.
Oh, could you get in contact with Wimpy himself and ask if this could be a potential show?
This sounds very interesting.
Yeah, well, they've done it on their show, so links to that show are available.
Probably I need to add it to this episode.
It's funny.
Yeah, you said Martin Winpress and immediately I went to Ubuntu UK podcast.
I'm like, no, no, he doesn't do that anymore.
But yeah, so yes, no, it was, it's interesting one tool.
There's, I don't know how open he is to implementing changes for other podcasts.
I think they did it for themselves.
So I've sent him a message on Mastodon, but none of them have gotten back to me as yet.
But it's early days.
Let's call that.
It's early days.
Speaking of MPV util scripts and MPV uses FFmpeg, as we all know, this was a collection of handwritten scripts for MPV explaining how MPV API works.
And I listened to this while cleaning the roof of my sunroom.
And it is fantastic.
When I saw the show notes, it's kind of all over the place because it's just dumping scripts.
But it is really, really nice what you can do with MPV and just a lot of scripts in general.
So yeah, absolutely.
I mean, I, I listened to this and unfortunately I had an appointment with a bank and actually listened to it between walking down to the bank and walking back up to my work.
I know this was another one.
I've got to get this in front of a computer.
Absolutely.
Alua, Alua, Alua.
That sounds like a Elvis Presley Hawaii movie.
Alua, Alua.
Anyway, a series on Lua scripts would be no harm for anybody who wants to throw those into the queue.
Give us a shout and we can change the name of back scripting to regular scripting if you want.
So that was that for shows as that comes out tomorrow, which is Friday at time of recording.
So we had two additional comments for shows for previous shows.
So the first one was on software development doesn't end until it's packaged by Tlatoo, which was from January.
And Steve Barnes says, yay, great general position that software isn't finished until it's easy to install.
And do you want to do the next one?
That's right, yep.
And CandyCaneArter07 did one on HPR4564, make MKV error by Archer72.
And he has just responded, regression testing?
I'm surprised there wasn't any regression testing to prevent a forced downgrade.
Did you try submitting a bug report to the devs?
Yep.
So that was it.
Then we move on to the HPR community news mail list.
And the mail list is kind of where we make decisions and discuss stuff.
And obviously, if you're some random person who joins the mail list versus somebody like a hookah or Tlatoo or yourself, you know, different weights apply to how much we're going to listen to any given person.
So as a HPR janitor, I posted the following message.
Hi, all.
We started posting to, and it's about, the heading is, stop posting to Twitter X while continuing to monitor it.
Hi, all.
We started posting to Twitter nowx.com in August 2008, and we have 976 followers.
I would like to suggest we stop actively posting there as the impact of the site has diminished.
While there probably was a time it was the place to be, my feeling has been for some time that we get no engagement there.
Recently, they did an update which provides statistics and shows showing the two metrics that's important to us.
Impressions, the number of times a post has been seen, and engagements.
And this one is important.
That is the total number of times a user has interacted with the post.
This includes all the clicks anywhere in the post, including hashtags, links, avatars, usernames, post, expansions, repost, replies, follows, and likes.
Checking the last few months, the impression matrix, which is basically it's been seen on X, has been hovering around the 30 mark.
And it's only peaked when there's been a click page, smiley face, tag word in there.
The engagements on all episodes is two, both of which resulting from me boosting and responding to the show, which I need to do to get around the limit on posting the amount of text that they allow to post.
There are about four shows where the engagement jumps to four.
Usually, that is where the host has also boosted it.
Given the lack of engagement, I would like to relegate Twitter, slash x.com, to the same status as Facebook and LinkedIn.
Only these platforms where we actively monitor and engage with people if they contact us, but we do not post daily updates.
We will occasionally post about things like the site being down or the New Year's show, etc.
Therefore, I suggest that we post daily posts to Mastodon, Matrix, and Telegram.
And we monitor Uggast Planet on Libra Chat, IRC, Facebook, LinkedIn, iTunes, and now Twitter, x.com.
Thoughts?
And the first person to respond to that was Andrew Conway.
My name is Moes McNallu.
Hi, Ken et al.
That proposal to stop in posting on Twitter, slash x, is fine by me.
As you say, it has lost much of the significance it once had.
Andrew.
I reply, looks like Uggast Planet IRC room is also gone on Freenode and Libra Chat.
And then we've got one from Claudio M, or Claudio Miranda.
Hi, everyone.
Regarding posting to x, I don't use it, so it doesn't affect me.
If HPR were to stop posting, slash, monitoring on x, I wouldn't lose sleep over it.
As others have mentioned, it's not what it used to be under the Twitter name.
As for the Uggast Planet channel, it is indeed on Libra Chat.
DoeDummy created the channel in the hopes that one of the janitor's admins would take it over,
but it never happened.
The channel is still there on Libra.
Just very quiet.
See attachment.
Regards, Claudio.
I stand corrected, and I was able to log in after that.
And Harley, anybody, says,
there are a few of us that are almost always logged into Uggast Planet on Libra Chat,
although I'm usually only active in the evenings, US, Eastern, and weekends,
but it would be great to see more activity there, Harley.
And then we had Zed Wilknick.
Zed Wilknick, personally, I regard x as an unredeemable cesspit, so dropping it is fine with me.
Just to stay neutral there.
Very much.
I also agree with this decision, says Lyle.
Henryk Herman says,
Hi, I agree with the suggestions below.
Further thoughts?
I am also positive to end the ex-account, but the drawback may be if anyone else could pick up the same handler later.
Another method could be to not monitor after an update of the account with informing it is passive.
Secondly, I think of HPR status for Telegram.
I have understood Telegram can be discussed due to its ownership and state relationship,
but I do not have the deep knowledge.
I understand many use Telegram, but that's only further thoughts.
I say yes to the suggestion below, as it is.
Regards, Henryk Herman.
Yep.
So on that, just, I haven't commented, but I want to say,
ba-ba-ba-ba.
Yeah, we would still, I would still monitor x during the day and stuff.
So it's not as if it's going away.
Um, and I, what I don't want to do is leave it there and then suddenly our reputation,
it's linked on our Wikipedia page and it's referenced in other places as well.
So, uh, we, we do want to keep air quotes ownership of it for as long as we can.
Yeah.
As far as Telegram's concerned, I personally have issues with Telegram,
but people are on it.
So it is what it is.
Right.
And we have got, uh, Ron Hornin, uh, saying,
I am fine with not posting, especially if this takes someone's time to do it.
If a post of the daily show should be automated and we don't want to stop interactions.
Oh, come on.
This is my browser.
Not, not this fault.
Uh, I've just lost it completely.
Right.
If I don't want to stop interactions with Zitter completely, I would be in favor of that.
Rowan.
Um, I haven't commented on that.
Um, but thinking about it on the way into work this morning, I was thinking, uh, that,
so the whole automation thing of the posting the show, I deliberately don't do it.
Uh, there are, the reason I convinced myself that, that I don't do it is because
um, it is the one time of the day where I make sure that the HPR site is up.
I physically interact with it.
I make sure that I communicate to those channels.
I'm actively engaged.
It's not like a script that's just there pumping out stuff and can go months, weeks or months
without, without an error message and where it's broken and hasn't posted, which has happened
in the past.
Twitter, especially, we have been automating the posting, uh, from day one to Twitter.
And then for several months, it was down.
Nobody noticed, nobody commented, uh, because they changed their API in several occasions.
Then they're charging for their API in several occasions.
Posting to Twitter itself is a pain because even I have to take half the post that the post
that I normally put into say Telegram or Matrix and Mastodon, um, click, click, click, copy
and paste, put it in, make sure there's no replies, respond to any likes, respond to any,
anybody who's, um, asked to join the group, uh, give thumbs up and stuff.
If people are, are, you know, have at signed HPR on us.
And sometimes I even have conversations with myself, uh, the HPR account with the Ken Fallon
account.
Uh, so, um, there's that.
So that's kind of why I do it, uh, why you're doing manually, um, Twitter.
Explicitly, there were other sites where you could post via another site into Twitter and
those are all been blocked over time.
So you come up with a solution, it works for a year or two, and then it doesn't work anymore.
So, yeah.
And, and also for the engagement, literally of 25 people seeing a post and then, you know,
nobody clicking on it, nobody forwarding it, nobody interested in it.
What's the point?
Twitter from, from the point of view of HPR, our audience, it's, I, I, I would have more
feedback if I, if I faxed, uh, you know, the show notes to random numbers.
Yeah.
You might get some annoyed feedback as well at that.
Yeah.
True.
Or not.
You never know.
That is true.
Okay.
So we've got another couple to do here.
So Todd says, I have no problem with HPR, no longer posting on X.
Keep it short and simple.
And, uh, Jim Leonard says, I concur.
However, the Twitter X reputation these days, I don't think it fits with HPR's core values.
And I think that's, that's it.
I'm confused.
Did I not hit the send button?
Cause I definitely replied to this.
Obviously it's still in my draft somewhere.
Well, you can, you can say it now if you want.
Yeah.
I'm, I'm just actually saying so I don't put words in my own mouth.
I basically said I agreed with stopping posting, especially if there, um, especially if it's
a case of, um, not much interaction, but I disagreed with, um, I'm just, you know, can
find this thing.
Sorry.
Sure.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
I did send.
I don't know why I didn't come in.
Yeah.
I just said, just to be clear, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
That's not it.
That was the last one.
Uh, yeah, here we go.
Stop.
Whilst personally I dislike Twitter or more accurately what has become, I think looking
at this from a personal logical point of view suggests that it has now run its course.
When I started reading the post, I was wondering how many listeners it was bringing into HPR,
but two to four interactions of the post is simply no longer an effective way to promote
the show.
Uh, I also agree that the account should be kept so that anyone wishing to contact HPR
via Twitter remains an option.
Who knows?
It may all change course again in the future and become a place that we would be happy to
post or have an active community in.
Yep.
Can always, uh, we can always change your mind.
That's not a problem.
Exactly.
Yes.
I know.
My biggest worry is if the account gets deleted and somebody else brings up the same
in the future, it could be a real black eye for HPR if they start posting horrible stuff
claiming to be us.
And also like we're referenced as being the owner of that, uh, and it's one of the, you
know, validations that we're a project that's been around for a while.
So definitely not something that we're, we will get rid of at this point.
Um, that's why I focused the discussion on, um, mostly the impact of the, the audience.
We're not reaching the audience.
Yeah.
That's when I, when I post on Facebook, I'll get more, um, I'll get more interaction than
I do here.
You know, I get all my aunts and uncles giving me a thumbs up on, oh, well done, on the new
year show.
So that's basically it.
Yeah.
Okay.
So there's, uh, yeah, I have to confess, I don't have any social media accounts outside
of Mastodon, uh, if we're looking at telegram or social media or not and, uh, matrix, but,
uh, I don't have anything.
So I don't, I must admit, I don't even post tux jam to other things.
I'm probably cutting my nose off to spite my face, but I just don't interact with these
things.
I don't have any time for them.
I must say though, from a HPR point of view, Mastodon has been fantastic.
It is.
Yeah.
It's really, uh, a good place to go.
We have a nice channel from, um, so the telegram, the telegraph telegram channel is nice.
I've recently joined us.
Yeah.
And my issue, by the way, why I don't like telegram is the fact that you can't block
people.
You don't have privacy by default.
You're, you're, you need a paid thing in order to block people.
And that just encourages spammers.
So I, that, that is my issue with the, with the platform mostly.
All right.
Fair enough.
We're all different.
Um, but that said, you know, they, that, and the IRC channel and matrix now that we have
an IRC channel and I'll, I'll pop that up on my, um, on my Raspberry Pi as well in a, in
a chat thing.
So that's good.
But the Mastodon one, really, we are getting engagement on it.
Occasionally you'll find new hosts coming in and, uh, a show being, a show being pushed
off somewhere or, you know, where, uh, you, somebody puts in a comment about, does the
show on a particular piece of software?
And then that software team will, um, you know, will reply going, oh, thanks for the
show or something.
So that's, that's really nice.
Actually, that's one thing I will say.
Speaking of, uh, Mastodon is that you do tend to get an awful lot more, uh, direct feedback
from actual people you've kind of reviewed or done something with on a show.
It is really good like that.
I'll give it that.
If they're obviously, if they're active, if they're not active, they're not going to
come on to Mastodon just purely for that.
Yeah.
Well, one thing I would like to do is automate the posting to Mastodon.
Um, and I would like that, uh, hosts, uh, like a separate feed for your Mastodon account
or your Feddy account, but that would have to be one account, just one account.
And I would also like that to be, um, I approve that my responses to HPR, the HPR thingy are
released under creative commons and would be included in the community news, which would
also be good.
So somebody wants to work on that, please do so.
I have a vision.
I think there's a ticket open about that.
So if somebody wants to pick that up, that's great.
Bum, bum, bum, bum, anything else?
I don't think so.
And actually, given the amount of issues we had at the start, that wasn't too bad.
The show.
That wasn't too bad.
It's dark now.
It is dark.
But by the time we actually started on the recording, it was getting dark then.
It was, uh, we had a disaster at the start.
And let's see if we, uh, if we've got a recording of this, cause if, if you're not hearing this,
then, uh, the recording didn't work.
So we had, we were recording a mumble and it was kind of weird.
Uh, this has been fine.
And we're recording now in matrix or element recording element element.
Yes.
Matrix.
And I'm recording it at my side with OBS and you're recording your side as well with
something.
I'm recording with Rico, which I love just for its simplicity.
In fact, I think I actually mentioned it on HPR Rico.
I'm pretty sure I have.
Okay.
I will have to hold you to that.
I'm not.
Don't.
I'm 80%.
Link in the show notes.
There's that 20%.
There's that 20% that's kind of making me doubt.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Um, okay.
Good show.
Nice.
It's not always nice.
Uh, Kevin talking.
It's a lot easier when somebody else is on and folks, thanks to, uh, thanks to all the
people who, um, commented on this, uh, show.
Candy Canator, Whiskey Jack, um, Jim, um, some guy on the internet, Paul Jay.
Elizabeth, Archer 72, um, Trey, Steve Barnes, everybody.
Basically, sorry if I missed your names, but, uh, when you comment on episodes, it really
helps us out here on the community news.
All we need to do is read.
So it takes the talking away and, uh, gives more perspectives as well.
And as you say, it just, it, it's also an encouragement for people who are, you know,
doing the shows because it actually shows people are listening.
So yeah, it's good.
Yeah, exactly.
And someone just personally, as not Ken Fallon, the, the janitor, Ken Fallon, the podcaster
on HPR, um, some of the shows that I do are like just throw away shows and, and I don't
care about them.
Some of them I've really done a lot of work on and, you know, and then to get no responses
is really just depressing.
It's, uh, you know, particularly if somebody's put in the time to do a, a big show, even if
you're not into the topic, just say, you know, thumbs up or something, or I'll, I'll add this
to my list or whatever.
It's always nice.
Absolutely.
Yes.
Even they, um, cause what's very good.
What I like seeing is that our team descends upon the new hosts, giving them encouragement.
And also we need to encourage the older hosts and the people coming back, you know, the
second or third show where your energy is kind of the buzz has, has gone down.
So, yep.
And it's really easy to do in any podcatcher at the very bottom of the episode, there's
a button, a link comment on this episode.
And the only question you need to answer is public, public as in hacker.
Public.
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