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Episode: 1631
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Title: HPR1631: HPR Community News for October 2014
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Source: https://hub.hackerpublicradio.org/ccdn.php?filename=/eps/hpr1631/hpr1631.mp3
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Transcribed: 2025-10-18 06:05:03
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its Monday 3rd of November 2014. This is HBR episode 1,631 entitled HBR Community News
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for October 2014 and is part of the series HBR Community News. It is hosted by HBR volunteers
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and is about 52 minutes long. Feedback can be sent to admin at hackerpublicradio.org
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or by leaving a comment on this episode. The summary is discussions on the new year show
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Hello everybody, I'm welcome to Hackerpublicradio.com.
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Welcome to HBR15.com.
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Hello everybody, I'm welcome to Hackerpublicradio Community News for the month of October 2014.
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This is a regular show scheduled day last, first Saturday before the first of the month, I don't know.
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I mean, scheduled day sends out an email and everybody turns up. Tonight starting in alphabetical order,
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we have Ahuka Bebebeks. Cool, no, no. Okay, wish her. And before we start, Kevin wants to talk
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about the HBR new year show and tell us what it is for a start just in case there's some people
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who don't know. Well, is this the fourth year for it or third? I can't remember. I believe it's
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the fourth. We'll call it fourth and I can correct this if they're wrong. It's just on starting at,
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well, it's the first year we started at noon. I can't remember what clock we used to start,
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but we went for 12 hours and after that we started doing 24 hours. We were actually starting. It
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would be, my time was 6 a.m. Eastern Standard Time in the States. Then that we run 24 hours,
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and the last two years, I think, in and others have chopped up the show into three hour chants
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or and put it out as Hackerpublic radio episodes. So it's just a big community gathering.
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You pop in any time you want, chat about what you want, and just a big chat fest and a lot of fun
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to participate. I've helped out for the last two years in pumping a screen to an ice cast
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server for the streaming service. And I'd like to discuss, we're going to make any changes
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from the previous years, who's going to be doing a lot, who's going to do that course later in the
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now, but again, I think was thinking about making minor changes. Yeah, there's a few corrections.
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First of all, the average day is longer than 24 hours, so we had the idea that we would start when
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the first time zone hit New Year's and continue on until the last time zone exists. And due to
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the way the earth is positioned and people want to be in different time zones, it turns out this,
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the New Year show is actually 26 hours long, so that was it start. What worked really well
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last year I thought was the Evernote page that we had off. So everybody who wanted to discuss
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a topic on the particular hour, we had a skeleton frame for the particular time and time zones
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so that we could greet the time zones as they joined in. And people who wanted to discuss topics
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put that in particular slots and as we got to them, we discussed them and then links and various
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things that were discussed during the shows as they were going on, we were shown notes into the
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Evernote thing, which actually worked out really well because then we could annotate various
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different episodes with really cool show notes, so I thought that worked really well.
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So that's going to show some volunteers to do that again.
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Okay, that is fantastic. And one thing that we also had was a ice cast server on our own
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thing, we used this mobile server, which is who is actually supplying this to us again.
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John Newsteader is the owner maintainer of this and I've chatted with him and he gave us the
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green light to use it again in the show. Thanks to John Newsteader for that.
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Okay, fantastic. And we have a script that was plied by also from IRC, Australians,
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not stocks, but brown. Yep. And that basically just divvies out the
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streams to various different mirrors. To be honest though, looking at the amount of people who
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are downloading our own VPS is more than capable of handling everybody that was listening on the
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ice cast. And also looking at the number of people who are on the MP3 feed, I don't really see
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a whole lot of point in doing an MP3 feed this year and I don't see a lot of point in doing
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mirrors either unless people want to. So you're just wanting an on feed coming off of the main
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VPS. Yeah. And the logic for that is it's a lot of work behind the scenes trying to keep
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everything open. So my idea was that we would run an accession on the VPS. Everybody who's
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doing the admin would take particular times that they could watch it or watch over. And then we
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use was a C-proms. I can't remember who also did a how-to tutorial on how to use Pulse Audio
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to just feed the output from a mumble client directly into an ice cast server and then we
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just stream from that. So simplifying everything else that we don't need to 100 on one client
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machines and that the one client machine does everything and everybody who needs to
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or who wants to help out with the admin and has experience with mumble and Pulse Audio and
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whatever can just connect to the central server and your Babsha uncle you're done.
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I'm lost on what you're referring to as far as the client is in Pulse to feed that screen.
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Okay well we have you are currently rolling your client on your PC. Yes.
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And the output of that goes to your headset or your speakers. So with Pulse Audio you can redirect
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that to a sync. That sync can then be redirected into ice cast and ice cast can stream that up
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to simple with that. So you would have one listener in the mumble room that would be the ice cast
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listener that will be running on the client PC on the VPS in the next session and client PC.
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Unfortunately there's no command line client for mumble as yet. Boss run in the next session
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and anybody who wants to can connect to the controller. So nothing nothing too major.
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And with the the idea behind getting rid of the MP3 is not not a lot to do with Reven that's
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more to do with basically every browser supports org and we can put on embedded play
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thing on the web pages. And the reason for this is just the amount of work that is going into
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goes into getting everything ready for the new year show just means that's at that holiday
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time of year you have a lot of people sitting around getting a technical equipment ready when
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they should be just having to spend any time with the family. Sound like a plan? I have a thing
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about it and we'll see get you well first of all get the thing set up and then do it. Oh my god
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it's the next month. It's the end of next month. Where did you go to? So who will be running the
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client that uses that pumping the stream? Sorry can you say that again? Who will be running the
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client that will be pushing the stream to a server? Whoever's doing the admin so it'll be on a
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think of it as a accession running on the VPS. So once I kick it off or if you're off you can
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control it. If we need to do anything with it, whoever is doing the admin at that particular point in
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time can connect to the VPS and with the next session and then like something like a virtual
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natural client VNC or something like that connect in mobile client is running their click start,
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click stop that sort of. Sound like a plan. Okay shall we get back to the purpose of this show which
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basically a rundown of what's been happening in and around the HVR community news in the last
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month and I'm happy to say it hasn't been revolving around me this month and it has been revolving
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around a lot of the people who were over at Ogcamp. So before we get into the meter of the matter
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just to catch friends from somebody else we will introduce new hosts. Coronamol, do you want to
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introduce the new hosts? Yes so we've got some new hosts, one of them being me. I did my first
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podcast or first episode this month and the other being Benny. Two people who hit the ground running
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I must say very much welcome to HPR. Where's Benny from? Switzerland. Very good. And he met it
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over to Ogcamp. Yeah he did. He was actually prior to Ogcamp. He was camping or doing some kind
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of end of term because he's a teacher. So some kind of end of term thing with his students in Belgium
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and then he just got the year of star and came to Ogcamp. Excellent stuff. Oh cool. Okay so let us begin
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shall we? Okay. Do you want to start? I would be delighted too. So on October the first we had show
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1608 from our brand new host Coronamol doing interviews at Lincoln Lug and one of those interviews was
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with the lovely bubble backs. It was a it was a good bunch of interviews. This was a nice one
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least of all from not least the fact that I have created a monster. So the only the only
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next point I could come up with this is I would have released these all as individual shows myself.
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I do like I get more shows in Philippe you did a brilliant job on this it has to be said.
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Not brilliant thanks. It was actually I did it just as sort of like practice for Ogcamp. So I've got a new
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Zoom handheld recorder and I just thought I'd do a little practice at our local lug and I think
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it turned out okay actually. So I'm thinking I might do it once a year as a kind of just a
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keep track of who who attends our local lug and yeah I think it turned out okay. It's a very nice
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mix of people who yeah they're different backgrounds and you know different they're the way of
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coming into Linux seems. It's always fascinating you always think it's going to be the same but
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everybody has their own story. We do have a very eclectic mix of candidates at Lincoln Lug. So
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you know we have you know men, women, children, when when when those users. Yeah so basically society
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I guess. No brilliant club. Brilliant club just and I just realised myself how lucky you can be
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if you do have a you know a nice lug in your area that you can go to. It's a it's a nice social
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event too. It has to be a wife runs it. True true. So moving on the following day we had
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Siggle and the process of e-pubs in Foss. Whoa just lost and Bronx have a lot of hassle getting
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stuff produced. Don't know any into e-publishing stuff or anything. So far I'm just a consumer.
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I have I do know his pain from going from one format to the next one from XML to HTML and
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theoretically it should all work fine on paper but it never ever does. So if you are doing e-pubs
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this is definitely a one two two. So the following day wrapping up I don't know was a wrapping
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up not awesome wrapping up the file system series was a JWP with butter FS which I think has to
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be the best name of a file system other than I can't believe it's not butter FS.
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I think that did wrap it up. Am I missing something? Was that the last one? Yes I think it was
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that was the last one. Which is a pity really. Only negative comment I can make about it is
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that it was the last one. I want more. Yeah there's no reason. I think the JWP has a treasure trove
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of information there. I strongly suspect he would you would be able to put another few
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series like that together if he put his mind to it. Then the next day was as you all were having
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a fantastic time as on camp we were stuck here recording a show and picture for fine looking
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gentlemen and the show notes for the HPR community news. And I think it was just you and me that time
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Ken. I was working hard working hard. Davis is unable to join us he sent in his his apologies
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he has had life happen. Well you know I abandoned him at least once because the stuff that I
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hit going so. Then we had an interview with Michael Tilliman which was open source newsberg semiotic
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robotic. You're jumping around here. Am I am I am I. Yeah because we were on 1611 so the next
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show is 1612 was NY Bill. Don't forget the refurb. Oh okay yeah oh I hit last sorry. Don't forget
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the reburbs in my bill. Why would he do this? Selling a perfectly good laptop actually they can
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kill us. He just moved the microphone around. Did anyone follow this at all? Yeah I did. I took an
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interest in this because I've got pretty much the same laptop. It's not I think NY Bill's was the
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tablet one but mine wasn't. But yeah pretty much the same laptop and I thought it was fantastic
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what he did. It was. No doubt about it. I don't think a lot of people would be just willing to
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take on that task. That's okay. That's pretty cool and there are lots of pictures and stuff
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and I've said it before and I say it again if I ever do make it to the States I am going to the
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museum of technology that is in my bill's house. I hear he cries a pretty main barbecue. Good good
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in the snow too. The following day we had Michael talking about his internet nickname and
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the hooker do you want to tell me what that internet nickname is? I would have pronounced it
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inches. That is a good one actually. We learn a bit a lot. We learn about people's nicknames.
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We learn about the history of stuff. I of course picked mine can underscore fun. My real name is
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H3774. So you're an android? I'm unable to answer that question. Your real name is hella.
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No my name is Ken for a very good reason because I'm the fourth son and my mother was expecting a
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girl so she had a lot of girls names and she had already ran out of her boys names so I got named
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after the kid who was in bed next to him. You should record a genealogy episode. Yes I actually
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that I quite interested in genealogy and there's some good genealogy stuff on them actually for
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tracing your family tree. I'm named after a terrorist.
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Kevin? Yeah. How's your Irish history Ken? Does the name Kevin Barry ring a bell?
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It does indeed. It does indeed. I'm named after one of the politicians come out and said
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that the Irish rebellion was would have been considered an act of terror and wasn't justified.
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Fair development was made in Ireland. An early lesson to me that it's all a matter of your
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perspective. It is true it's true. I was very tempted to do an episode on whether I'm a terrorist
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or not depending on my previous history either and yeah I've decided not to do that episode because
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that would be getting your name associated with the word terrorist. It's not a good thing.
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Not now the NSI listening. Probably wise. Then we had open source newsbreak from Opersource.com
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K12 Karen Sandler open source identity crisis and I like the discussion that went on along with
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this it was nice to discuss to have this show is discussed in a sort of open round table
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way. Yeah it was great and I love Karen Sandler. Then we had you with inferential statistics
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functions. Thank you. I'll withdraw a conclusion from data and make predictions. I can tell you
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love this stuff. Yes I do and you know this comes under the heading of maybe everyone at
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who listen stage PR might not love it but you know enough people do. I've actually gotten some
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feedback from people who said oh yeah I'm into that stuff too. I'm not knocking us Kevin.
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I'm not knocking us as we say there is always somebody who pulled something from this. This was
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of all your shows the ones that I would have loved to hear when I was doing this in college but I
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and had a point of just trying to forget all this stuff because it just doesn't float my boat
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on the fridge. However it is interesting to see and again for people there are excellent show notes
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to go along with this. It's in some of some of these episodes you really would benefit from
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looking at the graphs and stuff that go along. Yeah I write out everything and have screenshot
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and what have you. So that's all available at my website. I would actually like to see more of
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these on the various types of statistics. Don't get me wrong. It's flowing over my head a little
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bit. It is I think it's an interesting topic. It's always good to know to learn more stuff about
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things. If things are presented to you in a nice way by people you like then you're more inclined
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to listen to it and they go okay well if he likes it then I might devolve some time to learning
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the topic. Yeah and if you want to see how some of this stuff gets applied I did a show a few
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months ago on how to understand political polling that might be of interest. That is one of my favorite
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episodes actually that one. That's really knocked it home to me about how you do need to listen to
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the number of you know at the end of this but of course this is only a poll of you know 4,000
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lot of people randomly sampled on a telephone poll. Okay we were trying to BS me or something.
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Anyway the following day was 1660 how to use web fonts. Clat 2 reveals how to use web fonts without
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Google and this is so simple and I think he's hit a point here. Every site you go to I have
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I have a blocker that's a request policy that prevents a web page from calling other web pages
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and the amount of websites that go to web fonts like Google is unbelievable and absolutely unbelievable.
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Philip likes fonts. Yeah exactly but run them off your own server I mean they're
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well I don't know there are some advantages to running them off of Google's server I mean for example
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you get this caching involved so it means that you don't have to download each time you go to
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you know a different website is already in it loads quicker. Yeah but from the security standpoint
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I generally like to restrict my browser to only stay on the same site because they don't want
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cross site scripting going on. Yeah I'm a bit more relaxed about it. Also the tracking
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issue. Yeah again I'm fairly relaxed about that sort of thing. Okay but cool it's an option
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it's a good option but I don't know do you do you host your images on other people's websites?
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No not personally but I don't I don't really see a problem with it I yeah I don't tend to buy
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into all the you know NSA stuff and people tracking me and stuff it kind of past caring
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not to be honest I'm not up to anything bad I'm not doing anything wrong so you know who cares?
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That is the subject for another show that is true. I could point you in the direction of some
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other shows and probably we'll do in the comments to this but I mean let's move on. We had
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the hug camp is a free and free culture on conference and we had the first from Benny
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which was the Android space team episode and this was one of those episodes that
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I wonder what the hell is going on here. I wasn't drunk either. No I had I had I speed up all my
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shields and this one was sped up two times and there was like what the hell is going on and then
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I got it and I downloaded the app but I had nobody to play with it too very soon. It was definitely
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more of a spectator sport there was six of us around the table it was hilarious. Were you all
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paying or just the two of you? No there was three of us we were in pairs so me and my daughter Emma
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we then had Matt's copper weight and his partner Marie and Mark Johnson and his partner I can't
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remember what her name was so one of us is on the phone and it was just like you have to you know
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if there's a wormhole you have to flip the phone upside down and it just gets faster and faster
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and faster it was hilarious like I say for the people watching us because we were so busy
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concentrating on the telephone but you do need at least two people to play but the more people
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that play the more fun it is. It sounded like a you know an episode of Star Trek whether they
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give some Scotty Europe card something really obscure to say. Yeah I can testify it was pretty
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funny. I think I don't know I mean I didn't play it myself but I would imagine that when you're
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playing it things happen so fast you don't even realise what you're saying so as a spectator I was
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taking it all in and though there was just some classics coming out. It's the only time you take
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any notice of what I say. The following day we had been in with another episode in from Ogkamp
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again and this is the first interview with Peter Cannon and also Alistair. Peter Cannon is from
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the Dictorpin Road shop and how's Alistair? Black Crown. Yeah quite interesting actually.
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So how did you do the interview things? Did you just let people walk off and walk around and catch
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people or did you wait for them to come to the booth? I just kind of approached people and shoved
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the microphone under the face a bit like UK. That's my boy that's my boy. He taught Benny well.
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Yeah it was it was okay it was a bit difficult they can hear everybody yeah so the I was a bit nervous
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to begin with and then after a while I just thought a lot for myself well you know I was just going
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to stop the mic right under their face and if they wanted to talk to me probably if they don't
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yeah it's not a big deal and I think I think we've got managed to get a good number of interviews
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I've still got I've still got a number that I need to process and upload. Yeah as soon as the
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better so he who had interviews for two years on his unposted the shame the shame the shame
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did you have headphones on was all? No I just just used the zoom just pressed the record but yeah
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just had a bit of a chat with him and that was about it. Okay it was definitely a point and shoot
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excellent I love that I loved it also good good good good shows you really capture the the
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atmosphere of the other thing let's spend the whole point okay moving on 1619 was bare metal
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programming on the Raspberry Pi programming 101 and this is Gabrielle even fire who had a very
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technical and interesting episode way back and now is doing basically booting his own code onto
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a Raspberry Pi who needs a Linux kernel when you can hack it yourself and this one is I don't know
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I found this one very very interesting because this we did some compiler machine code coding
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when I was in college and stuff so this working with interrupts and doing pull-compeaking stuff
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like that it's really cool what he has done with this episode and you sometimes forget when you turn
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on your computer and it's all flashy and your phone comes on and it's all with bang at it all
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more or less works on the same principle it goes to a particular memory address and then it starts
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from their boots booting itself up so I love this episode then we had passwords entry good password
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practices by who co no one got a lot of comments actually it did do you want to address them now
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um well let's see uh one of them was someone who thought that I was being very insufficiently
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cautious when treating with password length although I went back over what I had said and I
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I think I said that it's an arms race and you know you shouldn't rely on length alone you need
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entropy as well but um so I suggested uh if you don't like what I did do a show yeah no I think
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I don't think that was the point the the point was that uh it's not enough to um they're
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to combine well-known dictionary words to make a longer one and that that uh that has been advised
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recently um but you also need to make the words gibberish as well because they're able to get
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up to 55 characters uh words which believe me uh it's about four or five words six words
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and one of my comments on the episode was quite a lot of systems restrict uh for example if you want
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to use citrix while windows supports longer character longer passwords than that 64 or something
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citrix itself only supports up to 32 characters so you need to have a password shorter than that
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um so fit being able to with uh of the shelf um cracking tools being able to crack a 55
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character password quite easily kind of you know it takes it to the next level as well so it's
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it's uh the point was you know the xkcd of um yeah I know the one you you thought it basically
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takes four dictionary words and just strings them together and his point was that that gives you
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plenty of interviews um and it's easy to remember so it's like uh battery stable um correct horse
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battery stable and which is actually in all the password dictionary hacking things now
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oh yes uh you know taking the one that was in the comic is a bad move just in itself um
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but his point was that uh they are now combining these words together with
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separators and also replacing all with zero and stuff being able to crack what would be even
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difficult to password so it's yeah it's a tough one I and I don't know what the answer to it is
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really it's what are you gonna do well my view is that passwords alone are just not sufficiently
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secure uh you you have to bring in something uh you know I for stuff that I care about I try and
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use two-factor authentication wherever possible yeah and even that there are ways around that
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so yeah but I can then again you did make the point in your uh in your episode that's it was uh yeah
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it was the government agencies will be able to get to your stuff you know dedicated attackers
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anyway we'll move on we'll move on interview with James Tate of canonical and this was brought to you
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by Cornell and we have a picture of James with um marker shuttle worth good interview
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Philip good interview yeah thanks chinese is a really nice guy yeah it was a pleasure talking to me
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the pity about the Ubuntu one thing they were doing some interesting stuff there and uh
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now he's working on the Ubuntu for sort of laughing deliberately but it's it's a pity to see
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technology like that just abandoned that but I can see why they get out of the business though
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yeah don't know why they're going into an informed business stuff this was also the last interview
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of op camp they were actually packing up the marques and the tables and we uh James's wife and his
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family were waiting and Philip um and James was still interviewing whilst everything was going on
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around them uh the beauty of time shifting no it's excellent it's good to bring uh you know
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bring faces and and that there are people behind these projects that people are uh you know
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tend to slug off or whatever so good good stuff now finally back to episode 1622 Michael
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Tineman uh time and Tineman Teeman Teeman yes correct thank you him and uh this was um
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well i'm gonna call it my favorite show of the month actually um i i'm a fan of the history of uh
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Linux and it was i just love listening to this interview it was a good uh it was a good
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alternative view to the you know join us now and share the software stuff uh given a business
|
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perspective to it i think that was mentioned in some of the extensive comments to do this episode as
|
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well and maybe we can talk talk about those later on but uh for those of you who get to know
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listen to this this is uh one of the founders of uh what was the company again the couple by Red Hat?
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well he was uh at signis i believe and then signis was bought by Red Hat and he came over i think
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his uh chief technology officer something like that yeah i'm put there be business into Red Hat so
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very very good episode about um yeah about open source and uh how it's how it works from
|
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our business point of view setting up a company. Benny had a good interview with Kevin
|
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Milner and George Dosher of the tech and coffee thing and this is something i didn't even know
|
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as uh George was involved in um because i don't use google plus because
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tech and coffee is a huge community now yeah massive over a thousand people on the community
|
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and they regularly have you know sort of like 20 30 people in the hangouts massive
|
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wow and uh yeah it seems to just uh just explore it and expand it it's amazing
|
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i mean there's two things that geeks really like tech and coffee there you go there you go genius
|
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yeah we have a group here in michigan called the coffee house coders
|
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well i like that too that's pretty good do you actually meeting do you actually meet in a coffee
|
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house or uh i'm not a member of it but uh yeah i believe they do meet in a coffee house
|
||
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great place to crack wi-fi says he who's not very diverse people
|
||
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about his privacy uh indeed well yeah i don't need public wi-fi
|
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okay the following day we had the kevin with a pranker called for talks anything did you get any
|
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talks in kevin uh you know i don't know whether anything came from this particular program
|
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or not um because i have no way of actually tracking that but as you know with uh trying to
|
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publicize things you just try and get the word out as broadly as possible and um i'm looking to
|
||
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get a lot of stuff in i've got uh about 30 hours of stuff uh in hand already and that's that's
|
||
|
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halfway towards what i had last year now very good and you were uh on the following day as well
|
||
|
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with uh quick look some miscellaneous functions in calc which i liked actually that was a nice short
|
||
|
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little episode on uh various different options that are available to you yep and following
|
||
|
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that uh was again opensource.com team having a roundtable discussion about azcon 2014 about the
|
||
|
|
various different talks uh keynotes and that sort of thing so that was uh that was a nice
|
||
|
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episode all around again good to get an idea of people's uh various different shows and the
|
||
|
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atmosphere of them can tell that it's a very different atmosphere in there to something like
|
||
|
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a god camp so good stuff yep then we had 5150 and our condolences go out to 5150 on the passing of
|
||
|
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this father this month yeah it's just been the last few months have been really tough uh because
|
||
|
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you know the house burned down um he had some burn issues although thankfully he seems to have
|
||
|
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recovered then about a week ago his father passed so but uh i can tell you on google plus he's been
|
||
|
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talking a lot about how thankful he is for all of the support and the friends and all of that so
|
||
|
|
yeah comes in threes to say so um anyway uh this was a excellent episode on uh 5150 shades of
|
||
|
|
beer and i love the episode uh i refuse to make a series out of this until he's sent in three
|
||
|
|
as i've done with uh several different people so if it's three if you want a series it has to be three
|
||
|
|
or more uh all the better if there's more and i like this because uh i do like um being a father
|
||
|
|
who has biological alarm clocks that still come in in the morning regardless of what time you set
|
||
|
|
them um i get to drink beer very rarely so therefore if i am going to have a beer it better be a good
|
||
|
|
one so if anybody um wants to send me some of these feel free to do so then we had the following day
|
||
|
|
cornomenal with an interview with pepperon comics i have never heard of this and spent a good hour or two
|
||
|
|
uh browsing their website they're very funny cartoons pretty cool yeah me too um and uh it turns out
|
||
|
|
that because i subscribed to linux voice i've been seeing uh comics from these folks all along i
|
||
|
|
just hadn't made the connection until we had this program but uh i'm now working through all of those
|
||
|
|
comics now yeah again they were they were super nice and uh and pleasure to interview and uh
|
||
|
|
yeah they were great they had a fantastic stall at odd camp as well when i first saw it i thought
|
||
|
|
they were a professional sort of like um get me a professional outfit but they do all in their
|
||
|
|
spare time it's all open so all you know free tools it's yeah it was brilliant and they're the style
|
||
|
|
of their stuff is very different from their different uh different series that they have on the
|
||
|
|
but all all quite funny i like it it's good it's nice to see this stuff popping up well done come
|
||
|
|
um uh pull up well done thanks banana pie first impressions by migray like this episode this was
|
||
|
|
because i've uh i've seen one of these and the only reason i wouldn't get them is because i
|
||
|
|
think while i have so many raspberry pies anyway um i don't think it gives enough that the
|
||
|
|
raspberry pie doesn't and i like their teaching and free while the the mission behind the raspberry
|
||
|
|
pie to me the raspberry pie foundation and what they're trying to do in education is what really
|
||
|
|
drives me to sport the project but hey go home to other options i guess i have to admit i actually
|
||
|
|
just bought my first raspberry pie well i had a reason too i found out i had mice in the
|
||
|
|
seller on my first um first thing i did was run upstairs and order an infrared camera
|
||
|
|
yeah i was at ohio linux fest and uh fellow was talking about how you could run uh well i'm
|
||
|
|
going to say xbox media center i know they just renamed it but i'm drawing a blank and i couldn't
|
||
|
|
you could run all that on a on a raspberry pie and and and it sounded like it would do everything i
|
||
|
|
wanted uh to do so i thought well hell you know raspberry pies cheap but when i just buy one and
|
||
|
|
check it out absolutely i um just last week actually i um fit the raspberry pie to the side of a
|
||
|
|
building in a little weather proof box and it's um it hopefully fingers crossed i'm not being
|
||
|
|
back it i'm due about this Friday but it's been taking a picture of every 30 seconds so
|
||
|
|
we're going to stick so together and have a time last video but the pie itself is going to be in
|
||
|
|
this box for probably about nine to ten months just taking pictures every 30 seconds it's got a couple
|
||
|
|
of got a couple of 64 key USB sticks attached to it and um i don't think i need to visit the site
|
||
|
|
probably once a month once every four night maybe just to empty the images off this USB stick
|
||
|
|
but hopefully it's going to capture a really good time lapse video of a new build on this
|
||
|
|
it's a it's a college and they're building a new dormitory but uh yeah hopefully it's going to be
|
||
|
|
really good so you will want to some of the raspberry pies are um and and it's look it's look at the
|
||
|
|
some of them are very flaky about rebooting uh will just reboot and some will stay up forever so
|
||
|
|
you want to check it relatively frequently to make sure that it is uh continuing to take photos
|
||
|
|
yeah it's um after this particular unit i've used it before so i've got a i'm kind of hoping
|
||
|
|
it's going to it's going to work fine but you know if i can get out of the office once a four
|
||
|
|
night you know have a trip i think it's about 50 mile up the road to go and check this raspberry pie
|
||
|
|
then you know the more time to go the better yeah absolutely i had one um if you're doing your most
|
||
|
|
trap and uh yeah which was funny what i got did your wife think it was funny now my wife uh my wife
|
||
|
|
is uh fine i just wants the mice out of the house but uh the uh the little package you know
|
||
|
|
those mice traps that come over and supposed to whack them they they just they just have come up
|
||
|
|
and taken all the stuff off that several times and even when i've like put it down with elastic bands
|
||
|
|
that they can't get it off and they just come off and nibble and nibble and nibble and nibble and nibble
|
||
|
|
and nibble away and then you go and you even breathe on the thing and it snaps on your finger
|
||
|
|
it's just they're amazing creatures so then i got some humane traps and i was able to trap one
|
||
|
|
with the rest of them got away now we're a cat quite often bring with mice in from the garden i
|
||
|
|
um i've got a brilliant mouse trap it's called Becky and she runs around she runs around with a nice
|
||
|
|
empty ice cream container tries to trap look oh dear there are live still yeah
|
||
|
|
oh yeah she's actually she's terrible she's a nightmare and um when it's harvesting because we're
|
||
|
|
surrounded by fields where we are yeah she brings all the live ones in and just drops them and then
|
||
|
|
just like just sits there and watches them running around my hallway but yeah so we've we've got
|
||
|
|
some top-aware and i say ice cream tubs but yeah filipanema are like on the setty with their feet up
|
||
|
|
hiding because there's a mouse running around the house and i'm desperately trying to catch it
|
||
|
|
oh you'll emancipate the filipet you should see what i have to do for spiders
|
||
|
|
we we don't like creepy corollys i will move on to bare metal programming for the raspberry pi part two
|
||
|
|
which was discussion on interrupt handling and using the x mode and protocol i just listened to
|
||
|
|
that today and if anyone was interested in learning a protocol how something is complicated as
|
||
|
|
i don't know which c2b works it would be do well to listen to the episode and as it's a good
|
||
|
|
introduction to basically what a protocol is and the absolute minimum that you need and again i
|
||
|
|
love this episode because it is he's going through the series of what you absolutely need to
|
||
|
|
do stuff on a piece of hardware is make the hardware do you don't really need operations
|
||
|
|
system of such you just need it to be able to do a few things so that's kind of what they're doing
|
||
|
|
in this episode keep them coming i say keep them coming so shall we move on to feedback comments
|
||
|
|
this month i guess so my cray had a clarification on his banana pie first impressions which was to
|
||
|
|
say that it sounded like he was from the raspberry pi one second please hold close important to us
|
||
|
|
yeah he's not from the raspberry pi dot org he's from raspberry vi dot org so that's the text to
|
||
|
|
speech thing speaking of text to speech for those of you who can do jazz when we i'm still looking
|
||
|
|
for somebody to help me out with the e-speak thing that we discussed last month so if there's
|
||
|
|
some code there i just need somebody to help me with the wrapping of it in to make a command line
|
||
|
|
program if you could that would be super thank you and on the episode uh
|
||
|
|
Michael time on there was um master master or two that was an excellent interview uh hearing
|
||
|
|
the business case of open sources was interesting uh Kevin O'Brien so those excellent interview as
|
||
|
|
you just said here again and uh pokie also thought it was a uh best interview so far in hpur
|
||
|
|
was a good interview in terms privacy and security we've already discussed the various different
|
||
|
|
aspects about that i think any reply to that would deserve the own episode to be honest
|
||
|
|
would you agree if you're putting forward a no you shouldn't do it this way then i think an
|
||
|
|
episode would be the best way to approach that and microe in response to bare metal programming
|
||
|
|
really enjoy the show and once some more of that i couldn't agree with him more and on space teams
|
||
|
|
we had the show was a thanks for the tape from pokie he's obviously easily pleased he does like
|
||
|
|
his gaming does pokie but i must say i downloaded that and i really wanted to find somebody to play
|
||
|
|
it because it's just cool that's come to what cap next year can we'll play we'll play together
|
||
|
|
yes or or you could come to foster them and we could play together nice two shy we had Johan v
|
||
|
|
with a comment on web fonts saying does platu have a blog post about this and no because platu does not
|
||
|
|
believe in having show notes apparently platu calling you out who is now on bitter
|
||
|
|
lot of lot of feedback on don't forget the refurbs by my bill x61 and love the speaker hack
|
||
|
|
very clever idea i would scare the live and day lights out of me and pokie again loved this
|
||
|
|
on episode 16 or 6 which was how to vnc by platu there was a comment by a
|
||
|
|
all right dodgy geyser indeed indeed yes ken palan about that vnc is not secure i don't know if
|
||
|
|
yeah we already covered this last last month so i put the show note in just so that in case platu
|
||
|
|
doesn't listen to community news and feedback on extra vehicular activity 1597 by steve
|
||
|
|
was by mr or mr's no name thanks steve enjoyed enjoyable and informative episode which was
|
||
|
|
so you're now going back into september yeah the episodes were for the comments were made in October
|
||
|
|
ah well thank you becky i'm not that bright apparently
|
||
|
|
west can we can't here can hello yes we had a comment by um gabriel um about day jargonfall they
|
||
|
|
that hacking doesn't necessarily have to involve lengthy effort or useful craft
|
||
|
|
but then again i think when you introduce the concept of the word hack everybody has their own view
|
||
|
|
of what it is so yeah they 500 and one electronics kit which was episode 1536 by uh c prompt still
|
||
|
|
gathering and be back and it was by plan 9 fan great episode and he just found out that his wife
|
||
|
|
owns this very kit but she uh and that she too was into electronics as you young adult what a woman
|
||
|
|
episode 1434 why i made an account free android by toujette and his comment is about the
|
||
|
|
that you need to be rooted to do some of the stuff and in his company you can't have
|
||
|
|
you can't run rooted devices and i think that's it is that it yep that's it
|
||
|
|
so anything else folks while i route out they stuff from the mail list
|
||
|
|
not for me Ken but then i need to go and cook dinner for us good idea what happened
|
||
|
|
plates are un salad very nice very nice very nice so i'm going to sign out now okay so
|
||
|
|
left you all thank you for letting me join in not a problem and uh looking forward to hearing your
|
||
|
|
future episodes back yeah now we've got the zoom i shall be interviewing like a ninja
|
||
|
|
not actually um becky and i've got an episode planned so we're just trying to work out the details
|
||
|
|
we're going to um i bought becky and new ssd for a laptop so we're going to do a philip and becky do
|
||
|
|
into uh without pictures okay there wasn't actually a lot on the um use report on you so it's just
|
||
|
|
about oil and uh about the community news come off so once you have it like that so let's uh
|
||
|
|
not sliver this any longer and say goodbye from me goodbye goodbye from me goodbye from me
|
||
|
|
join us now and share the soul swear you'll be free free and you'll be free
|
||
|
|
tune in tomorrow for another exciting episode of hacker
|
||
|
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park radio
|
||
|
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good night well that singing could have curdled milk
|
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