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Episode: 4612
Title: Hackerpublic Radio New Years Eve Show 2026 Episode 4
Source: https://hub.hackerpublicradio.org/ccdn.php?filename=/eps/hpr4612/hpr4612.mp3
Transcribed: 2026-07-31 16:15:09 (official HPR transcript)

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This is Hacker Public Radio Episode 4612, for 2026-04-07
Today's show is entitled, "Hackerpublic Radio New Years Eve Show 2026 Episode 4"
The host is Honkeymagoo and the duration is 01:52:37
The flag is Explicit, and the license is CC-BY-SA
The summary is "the hpr community comes together to converse"
On the subject of sweetness, including in the Aldo drinks, they did taste very like strawberry or lemon or whatever,
but they also included as bar tame in all of those drinks, which just gives some people my grains.
I didn't know about the nosebleed.
But, Mayor Maynard, they used to drink less.
I try to stay away from the fake sugar.
I'd rather have a drink.
I don't do it at zero, zero sugar or battery.
But when I stopped drinking, I used to drink a mess of a cola.
When I stopped, I started making flavored tea by the gallon, and I would have sweetened it with agave.
If you're not diabetic, then a bit of sugar is fine, I think.
I think it was having lots.
How come his has pertains?
Did I have not heard that name in decades?
Definitely in those Aldo drinks.
Really?
Because I've been reading labels on stuff quite a bit the past in 15 years,
and I made pretty much a policy and I tried to stick to it, but it's kind of hard.
But if I can't pronounce it, and it's got more syllables, then, you know, the entire...
You know, Oxford dictionary.
I don't eat it.
I think a spot time is on the mean I watched it.
Is it?
I'm not sure.
I remember when it came out.
I'm thinking, well, these are the states from the United States.
I'm thinking, this could just be a false memory of mine.
But I'm thinking it came out sometime in the 80s,
because I remember my parents.
I think my mother bought some of the grocery store to try it,
and they didn't like it.
They said it was, I can't remember if it was too sweet,
or if it had like an aftertaste to it.
And I think this was also before.
I think like Splenda.
I think that was something that came out into the early 90s.
But I know, I remember when they switched over,
this is my last thought here.
I remember when they switched over from cane sugar
to the corn syrup for the coals.
His whenever I go down to the Mexican border
around the states like Texas, New Mexico, Arizona,
Southern California.
I always try to get the Mexican cooks and the Mexican sprites and stuff,
because they still are made with cane sugar.
Yeah, a spartame is a dye peptide of a spartic acid,
so not what I was thinking.
And yeah, I prefer molasses.
And a thing I recall about cane sugar was,
does it, it does not sate your sugar cravings?
So you can drink more of it,
and you won't feel like you've taken any sugar.
Is that true?
I don't think that's true.
I would think that's more hybridous words.
I thought corn syrup is what I was referring to.
Then yes, cane sugar is sugar from.
For sure.
I think that I'll said that it was replaced with...
Yes, yes.
Yeah, they current.
Yeah, I love my connection.
I don't remember when they did this.
Like I said, this is like...
It was during the rainy day.
It was during the rainy day.
Okay.
Yeah, the administration.
It was one of the tax...
One of the tariffs he passed,
because sugar farmers, for an increased tariff on income,
imported sugar.
And once they raised the tax on imported,
high fructose corn syrup,
expensive sugar in the product,
high fructiver than imported privy.
I think the net people and then were put for high fructose corn,
so to be put in product.
Hopefully with good intention to make things
better.
I think it was in Amazon's called Hunters.
People hunting Nazis hiding the part of that whole story line
that was then the Nazi putting high fructive master plan in Asia.
I guess it was more likely to be accidental,
but I did hear...
It might have been sugar the bitter truth.
Another documentary about the damage that corn syrup does.
Firstly, I have a personal answer.
I heard enzymes were 400 months
that I was to the doctor towards the end.
The three times I have my blood drawn,
trying looking for different stuff,
to mark things off,
and more blood.
And I randomly ran across to the high fructose corn syrup.
And then all my distorifying,
I cut out high fructose corn syrup,
stopped drinking soda,
flavored pothagab,
and my liver out from strapped.
Four, five.
I'll take that as corroborating,
anecdote, sounds good.
The stuff I've read,
said it damages your liver more than that,
because cells in your body,
process, energy from sugar,
a high fructose corn syrup,
to be processed,
in end of damage.
But I actively started looking at everything I bought
and everything that's,
I don't believe that there's a problem with it.
I don't know if any of you remember all the commercials,
pushing high fructose corn syrup was a safest from the corn.
I did go on like I did gather from what I heard,
that yeah, corn syrup bad.
I know I went back in good,
molasses delicious.
I know I lost like 10 or 12 pounds
from giving up one or two cans of coke
or sprite,
not in due.
I couldn't believe that I went from,
but not quite a 33 inch waste
down to about,
I'm in between 30 and 31 now.
More towards the 31,
but I can still fit in.
No, I take that back.
It was, I now,
in between 31 and 32,
because what I had when I graduated,
high school was 30.
Now it's up to 31 when I started drinking all the,
sodas.
I was up to almost the 33 inch waste.
So after I cut them out,
like I said,
I lost like 10,
12 pounds.
And now I'm in between 31
and a 32 inch waste,
which is impressive to me,
because it's the easiest way to get rid of all that waste.
This is not doing that.
It doesn't have to do any like picture sizes or anything like that.
It's crazy.
Yeah, that gets to you.
You know,
as you get older and older,
I hear there's an average in the UK
of something like half a stone a year
when you get to a certain age,
which seems unbelievable.
Just pretty much,
I train mostly water.
When I go to work,
I have to,
I think they're 13 liter,
like they're going to half gallon,
camping,
canteen is,
and I've used my water filter.
And then I got a travel,
thermos thing at holds,
like 16 ounce of bucket pint.
And then I'll have two pint of water a day
in addition to anything else I ingest
from fruit or,
you know,
any other foods.
But yeah,
I don't miss the sodas.
I pretty much,
if I go to a restaurant,
I might have ones,
like,
I think in one month,
I have maybe one or two sodas
and a month,
sometimes I can go a couple months
without them.
I looked it up,
I corrected it to,
like,
getting up to a key loop a year
or something in older age.
I imagine that would be quite higher
for Americans,
because we seem to have a weight problem here.
Yeah, no comment.
It's often,
I've seen that.
Are you calling me fat?
What's that saying?
You're not fat at all.
You're not fat at all.
You're a fluffy,
you know,
they're all averages aren't I,
and who can say?
Yeah,
I,
I've lost about 1kg for 3 years on a row
when I went to Thailand for 2 years on a row.
And the third year I went,
I didn't do any walking,
and I was eating massive amounts of food was,
and so good,
can't get it.
I lose that because I don't want to eat much,
when it's hot,
it really lose appetite.
I did.
I was hungry all the time,
I was not old,
but I was like,
I ate a lot.
I ate more than one of one of them.
I noticed like,
when I eat,
when I eat like,
traditional foods,
you know,
prepared like Mexican food
or any of the type of like Asian food,
and that I will eat across the,
the country.
I,
in war,
sustained in a smaller amount of food,
than I would if I was eating
any other type of American derived food.
It's,
it's quite amazing,
but I've also noticed in my older years
that my appetite is less,
for example,
there's a restaurant that I grew up eating at.
We've been open since, I think,
1954.
Yeah,
it's a fried chicken,
and they had like a secret recipe type of thing.
It's a well known in the,
in the area.
And I used to be able to put away five pieces of chicken,
as in chips,
and some coleslaw,
and be fine.
Now,
with a night's say,
the past five years or so,
I can eat just two pieces,
and the other,
you have four mentioned side dishes,
and be completely content.
But I'm thinking that hasn't lot to do with it too,
but I've noticed that I prefer eating a lot of the other food,
more than the traditional American type food.
If you dice some raw carrots into a bowl,
and just put a tiny bit of,
whatever flavor you like on it,
you can just chew on that stuff,
until your face is aching.
You know, give your face a real workout,
define the muscles in your face,
and yeah, eat as much as you like.
After a while,
you can't eat,
because you know,
your face hurts so much,
because of the crunching on the raw carrots.
Yeah,
and beets,
and what's these,
let me get them up here.
I had,
for lunch,
it's a,
I get these from a wholesale,
place called Sam's Club.
It's be seen,
Sam,
Wal-Bark Corporation.
But I get these,
nature's garden,
trail mix and act packs.
They're 24 individual packs.
And like the one pack has cranberry walnuts,
almonds,
pumpkin seeds,
pecans, pistachios,
and then the other one has cranberry walnuts,
black raisins,
gold raisins,
peanuts,
pumpkin seeds,
and sunflower seeds.
And I can tell you,
right,
I mean,
after chewing on those,
I'm pretty much done for the rest of the afternoon.
It's quite a quite a workout,
especially the almonds.
Right,
and you can chop things like that,
into this big bowl,
until you can like,
you know,
500 grams of diced carrots,
raw,
and then you only need like a spoon full of oats in there,
and a drop of chilli,
chilli powder,
sorry,
chilli,
what you call it,
Tabasco sauce or something,
and the whole thing tastes like
what you've added to it,
so the chopped nuts or the oats or something.
You just get this satisfaction of the chewing and the crunching,
from the diced carrot,
but it doesn't interfere with the flavour from the other things,
you know?
It's interesting.
It looks like you just passed New Year's.
It's,
yeah,
I just noticed I missed it.
There's fireworks going off,
but they have been,
for about four hours, you know?
Yeah, we still have another,
but see,
45,
make that eight,
two hours,
45 minutes,
I think.
Are you,
well,
Canada?
Yeah,
States.
Right now,
I don't even know where,
I mean,
in Canada,
it's about 45,
well,
it would matter.
Anyone that's in the States,
I'm like 45 minutes,
northeast of Indianapolis.
I just got in the map out.
Yeah,
if you look,
we're Fort Wayne,
Indianapolis.
That's where I'm parked at.
I'm a,
I'm what you would call,
a lawyer,
a lawyer driver,
so I'm parked at a truck stop here,
and I think that's Gaston.
Let me look.
See what Google can tell me here.
Petro Travel Centers.
Yeah,
GA is T-O and Indiana.
I can say it there in Indianapolis.
Yeah,
I just got,
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they were quite funny for a person of my age at that time.
Yes, funny television shows that I grew up watching.
And then there are ones that I never watched, but I'd like them now.
And then there's one that's I grew up watching.
And I've tried to watch now.
And I don't know if I just don't have the same interest,
which is the same of music too.
Yeah, that's another part of getting older.
And I was just checking the weather here,
because I did this left the north side of Toledo,
Ohio.
And they were not ready to get smashed by some snow.
Do you find new interest though,
as you get all to do you?
Yes, I found a big appreciation for history.
One of the things that I've really been interested in past few years
was a little bit more in the past few years.
I'd say maybe a decade maybe was the history of the US highway system,
which is quite fascinating.
I think it's a number of the numbers.
Oh, yeah, the other way, yeah.
And we're in T.A.
The other way around for a minute.
Yeah, how they deal with the exit numbers.
Good heavens, my senses.
Yeah, it's fascinating how they develop the first ones,
because the original routes were native American paths
that they had taken.
Some of it was just geological surveys where they're like,
okay, well, we can't go around this.
We can't go over this mountains.
Or we're going to curve it around this direction.
And we're going to can't go across this rivers.
We have to curve around this this way.
And then yeah, what he was saying about the
at the inner state system about the even numbers,
North and South.
I mean, the even numbers to us.
I mean, and the odd numbers.
I forget everything about it.
But I know it all the time.
Exit one might cut down on it.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, they're always the elder of experts.
Exit.
It was a line man.
We're lying men, you know, in the famous song.
So what did line men do?
Did they do power lines or what they make in the road?
There's an interesting podcast that used to this.
He's called 99% visible.
And they would explain how 99% of his stuff is may develop
the design is not even seen or noticed by the.
Yeah, the line man.
I think are the ones that do the.
Can you tell it?
Can you hear us, emergency?
Yeah, there was a song wasn't there.
I'll try and find it.
There probably many.
Hello.
Hello.
Hello.
Coming to you live from Seattle.
How are you?
Probably right.
We're basically coming to you from Devac, the queer hacker space here in Seattle.
Nice.
You know, there's a YouTube channel that if you want to learn a lot about the American.
I always system and they open up YouTube here.
It's a really well produced channel.
And we find the name here.
I think it's between beyond.
Let me look here.
Beyond the exit.
And he's been.
Going through a lot of the.
B.J. US highways and how they got there beginning.
Why they chose the route.
You know, that they did.
So it's.
I just figured after driving across the country for the past two decades that I.
To take some interest in why the roads where they are.
But I remember in geography at school that they called it our advanced level like 16 to 18 years.
They were talking about.
I'm tracking the rail tracks in America and I had no interest whatsoever because I just didn't.
I didn't know about development of infrastructure.
Yeah, because my.
To all there was.
An appraisal supervisor for the Ohio Department of Transportation.
And his efforts among others was the advancement of the interstate system through Ohio.
I can make.
I have vivid memories of being on some of the sections of the interstate.
Before they were even lined.
They had just finished paving them.
And I remember going northbound on the southbound side.
And my dad's car.
Surveying stuff.
And it was before they put the highway signs over the over the roads.
And none of the guardrails were up.
And it was funny all those decades.
I didn't have daycare.
So either I was with my dad.
And driving around the state or I was with my mom.
It's usually a secretary.
Occasionally I wouldn't have to go to neighbors.
But I never really had that that interest even though I helped him.
I I learned how to read a map when I was like 10 years old.
I knew how to read a nautical map because we had a boat up on the carry.
But they had him up there's before I was even born.
So they got rid of them.
I think sometime in the early 90s.
But I learned how to read a nautical map.
And I had interest, but I didn't really have that that keen interest that you're saying.
But now I'm really, you know, fascinated about about this stuff.
So yeah.
It's like I was talking to a friend.
Another nerd friend.
And about interest.
And I was reading through my YouTube feed because some of the YouTube channel, some of the tech related stuff that.
Building and gaming and stuff like that.
The PCs.
I really don't have that much of an interest.
And so I've been more getting into history.
They did podcasts and more cultural related ones.
Where I watched one from Lady from Ireland.
And there's one I think.
I can't earn a role that I want to grab on.
But there's other countries.
I think there's like Ukrainian.
There's Spain.
I mean, there's a couple of the ones that talk about life in their coal.
That puts Siberia.
You could.
Yeah, you could.
Yeah.
That's another one I watch.
And it's really fascinating watching these people, you know, talking about their lives and their own countries.
And it's, I just, fact, have a fun new, a fun rather fun appreciation for some of this stuff now.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like you said, taste change as you get old.
I was listening to some.
It was a podcast.
They were talking about the Parma raids.
And they, you know, McCarthy, witch trials and witch trials.
The anti-communist.
Raids that they did.
And it, um, the point that we're making was how young America was as a country.
And people don't realize that at that time they had a very parochial police force.
They only had a few hundred FBI agents.
And of course, your road system and your infrastructure.
It wasn't all that well developed.
And people, you know, live in Europe or wherever.
They don't appreciate just how quickly it's happened in America.
Yeah, that's general Eisenhower before he became president.
Started in, in Washington, D.C., which is almost in the far east coast.
It's still haven't, you know, a little bit to go to go across anapolis into the actual Atlantic coast.
But anyways, they live from D.C., which also is the Harnations capital, obviously.
So that's where they started.
And they want to go west and you want to see how long it took.
And maybe somebody else can chime in with the actual D.C., I can't remember.
But I'm thinking it took them close to like 90 to 100 days to get to the west coast.
And he pretty much after that ordeal.
Jesus, we need a better way of doing this because this is not not good.
And that's when they, that's why they call it the Eisenhower freeway system is in honor of him.
I think it's good to tune in because we can now.
We don't know if the how long we'll be able to to catch a slice of these are the lives in different countries.
And I mean, especially if they're speaking your language so you can understand them as well.
But even just to watch what they do and it adds a different either technological level or with a different cultural focus, the difference that it can make.
Yeah, the world getting smaller, but yeah, it's so large.
Any time you try walking, you know, or any time where there's a real cultural clash, then yeah, that world is very big.
That's one of the things I like about the podcasting in YouTube is learning you hearing about stuff and talking like talking with you.
And talking other people from other countries and it's kind of kind of interesting.
I was surprised when I park here, I wanted to get mumble, but I just got this, I found Saturday and I'm looking for the mumble client.
And I found one that was actually caught me on this when I'm thinking it actually is from the mumble devs or somebody associated with them.
It has the mumble name, but it hasn't been updated in like several years.
So I was concerned that it was even going to work tonight, but apparently it's working fine.
I guess some protocols, if they work and people leave them alone, then they'll still work later.
Yeah, I think in the one of the things when I was setting this up before I connected, I'm thinking is all this.
Yes, I also tried to check because I had trouble both hearing and speaking.
I guess it said that if you connect to a server and you can't hear anybody or they can't hear you, they're probably not using opus.
I think I found that's one of the reasons, but there are quite a few of this.
I'm sure, could I, this is the first time I've used mumble in, oh heavens.
Well, it's been a few years since I was on Bugcast and I'm thinking, I can't remember when Midcast switched over from mumble.
I'm thinking, I can't remember if that was before then or after, but I know I haven't used mumble in quite a few years.
It's been exactly one year for me since the New Year's Eve show last year.
Same thing.
Oh, that's right. I take that back then. I think I think it was on my computer still or could have been on my phone.
I'm usually a way it worked when I'm thinking it had to been when I had an android.
So I take that back. It probably was mumble or mumble.
Well, mumble is the client and murmur is the server.
Yeah, and I think android theirs was called something else.
No, some other name I can't remember, but it wasn't called mum.
If you searched for mumble, their metadata would take you to the correct app name, but it wasn't called that.
What I'm using is called mumble.
Okay.
I've been listening in all day.
You know, it was poking around the night and came around the dev random pages to love.
And when I looked at the last episode and there I am.
But the sound like I'm talking to a potato.
It's been a minute since I thought about 51.50.
Any y'all remember 51.50?
Absolutely.
Too early for me.
Yeah, past the way a few years ago.
2019.
I don't remember that, but I don't think we ever met in all day.
We live in Kansas.
I met him in person at several, yeah, Kansas.
I met him in person several times at several in 2019, where the Texas Linux Fest.
Yeah, he came up here.
I think 2018 for Linux Fest Northwest.
Yeah, we thought he'd actually died in the hotel because it was supposed to be with us.
We hadn't answered.
We'd stopped at his hotel room a couple of times during the day and he had the answer to the door.
We received the hotel would do a wellness check.
But I think we, we ate as a group.
Several of us, but 51.50 and I had two or three meals just went on our own.
It was a big barbecue place that we went and we did a Brazilian steakhouse right down the
street center that it should have killed both of it so much.
We turned the little cards over.
It'd be a memory that it caused something on the table.
They turned for bringing more food and stop bringing me food.
And they, they filled a whole nether plate after I stopped.
But, but great person.
You know, we should have an August planet life.
Happy New Year, people.
Over and out.
Have a good evening.
So I'm in three.
Nice talking with you, Dale.
Nice talking.
Good night.
Good night.
Good night.
Good night.
Good night.
Good night.
Good night.
Good night.
Good night.
Good night.
Good night.
Working on networking issues.
And third.
Not at the type you would normally expect.
It's very, very old hardware flowing.
And then, I am working on a model train.
Tell me more about what kind of model train.
Oh, yes.
Cause I had those.
I was younger.
I still like something, even today.
I am a building and in scale,
scale, peedmont northern box car.
That is quite small.
Yes, and scale, let's take some steady hands and some good eyes.
Very near sighted, so I take my glasses off through a lot of the course of work.
That's good.
When I was growing up, we played with 027 and 0 gauge.
And my dad had some HO, and then I ended up with my own little engaged train set that
up in my basement.
I'm trying to remember the gauge.
I'm thinking we had the last one I remember was HO.
Because I'm thinking those were the ones where the engines were,
what about maybe four or five inches long or so.
I'm trying to...
They were...
I know that a match box car was almost...
I think if I remember correctly, I think you could have like two or three match box cars.
And they were the same size as the train.
I mean, we were just raising what have been about the same as we had with an HO gauge.
You can see two rails.
Oh gauge and 027 were AC and they were three rails.
And gauge is more about the width of a pinky two rails.
Okay.
Yeah, I remember being...
I remember how big the end and snowlands, but I was just blanking on the O and the HO.
Yeah, but we had a big set up in our basement when I was going up for a time.
I'm thinking...
I could have until big was that part of our basement.
But I don't remember on too much it.
I'm going to say you could easily fit a car in the basement in that part of the basement.
And that was the length of it.
And then I think the width of it was probably three or four feet.
Some thinking it was probably 12 to 14 feet.
Maybe a little bit longer and like three or four feet wide.
I had a set up to make it long.
Sorry, I tried to step in.
You go ahead.
I had a set about second feet long and five feet wide.
And it was foldable so I could still use the basement.
Ah.
That's a good idea.
So Pirate, the end gauge that you're building.
You're making this out of...
And so I could you repeat that?
Is that a kit that you're putting together or a model?
Or are you actually making it in scratch?
Um, so it's a commercially available model from Atlas.
But I'm heavily modifying it.
I carved a lot of it off and I'm still carving bits of it off.
And the plan is to...
Well, that's I'm done carving things off.
Start adding new things all to it.
Sounds...
That's thought about getting back into model building.
But I thought this through a couple years ago.
And I'm like, yeah, I want to start doing that.
But when I'm done building and where am I going to put them?
So it's more of a factor.
What can I build that small enough that I had run for?
Because I would...
I found some like...
Abrams...
Tanks.
And I found a chassis system.
One of the diesel electrics.
I saw a...
I can't remember the scale of that one.
I'm thinking it was probably...
Like a foot or so, maybe two feet long.
And I think the Abrams was...
But the size of a tree table.
You'd have a rush drawn.
You know, fast food rush drawn.
So I think I would have to find something small.
Because I already have too many other nicknics and stuff in my apartment.
And stuff in my apartment as it is.
I don't have room for much more.
It's definitely easy for many hobbies to take over all available space.
Yeah.
I can find my home lab to a...
An ever measured it.
But it's about...
Well, the 19-inch rack fits in that space.
So I know it has to be probably no more than two feet wide by about four feet high.
Not including where my color laser printer is.
I don't know that.
But yeah, I've had to pair that down to a manageable size.
And then I have my coffee cup collection and the baseball hats.
And figurines.
Yeah.
My office mechanical clock.
Yeah, mine's mostly in my office.
My home office.
So it can serve my bedroom or the living room.
But there's not a whole lot of space in this.
I would put up some shelves or something.
Because oh, I have in my living room is probably how long it is.
I'm thinking maybe five foot long coffee table and some in tables.
And then the stand that the TV's on.
And my bedroom all it has is a small in-table.
My dresser and a computer table.
Yeah, if you ever got up towards Chicago.
I was up there a couple.
Well, I can say a couple of weeks ago because I was just home for ten days.
I was up there recently.
I'm saying I was up there probably two or three weeks ago.
I was actually two exits.
I was on the second exit.
I think it's the western avenue.
Because where I went to.
Off of a two ninety.
Did you ever get up by the museum of science and industry years ago when they had
been there for personal visit.
This was when I was for work, you know,
truck driving.
But I've heard of it.
But I've never had a chance to visit that.
I've seen the last time I had a personal trip there.
It was I went to Navy Pier.
And then there was a.
Oh, I can't remember the name.
It was some type of art museum.
And sort of this thing, right?
Never been to an art museum before.
And I thought, I'm going to go to an art museum.
It was kind of an interesting experience.
And I walked around early downtown and.
Can't remember all the other places.
But I wish I would have known about that.
Because I would have liked to have seen that.
You know, all the time in Chicago.
I've never been to the art museum.
I've never been to the art museum.
About an hour south of Cincinnati.
Oh, yeah, get.
You know, you're bound.
Is that both not London?
Um, that's too much close to Tennessee.
Lexington.
That's what I was thinking of.
That better.
I go through there and I can't even Tom,
Did you ever see in the Walking Dead.
The TV show.
Yes.
Our little town has a mural.
back when that was in production. I was driving through Alabama and I can't
run to the route number off the top of my head, but there I can't even
a venture, I guess. I'm thinking it was maybe Highway 280 or 431 or 400 something
and I was driving up through there and I'm like, why do I have this feeling that
I've been on this road before? Because these signs look familiar to me and
and I realized I was talking to another driver at our terminal at the company
I was working for at that time. I had mentioned it to them and they said, oh yeah,
they filmed some walking dead there. I'm like, oh, but what about the
at the Euro there? Oh, I know as it's there and there was some controversy
they said that it was taking some copyright. That's interesting. But the people did
it anyways. Yeah, the only times early, early next year, the only time I really
watched that was when I was at our terminal and which one of the ones was
they were always watching the walking dead. It was almost like every single time
I was there. I'm thinking it could have been, oh, I just flew on my brain. I just
love getting older. It was a this south of New Hutchins. I think I was used in
school road area. Yeah, they were always playing the walking dead. That's about
the only time I really watched that that and my ex's brother was addicted to that
show. He always had it on the TV. I was not a fan either, but friends of
ours, back in Illinois, we're always playing it. Yeah, the other one that he would play.
Oh, there was like three shows that he was the sopranos. If he wasn't watching the
walking dead, it was the sopranos. And then the other one that he actually turned me
on to was, oh, I'm blanking on the name. The characters was was Moss and the
blonde hair, blonde hair, girls. A few is a UK British old. The IT crowd.
I need to turn it on and off again. Yeah, it's trying to remember the catchphrase.
Did you turn it on and off again? Yeah, yeah, the IT crowd. He watched that. That was about the
only one that stuck with me. It was the IT crowd. Yeah, you watched the sopranos. He was kind
of funny. I would poke fun at him sometimes because you would say, well, there's so much violence
in this. Sometimes I just have to fast forward over the violence. I'm like, it's a drama
about the mafia. They weren't friendly people. So, well, I guess this is an American tradition.
Did all the Americans watch National Ampune's Christmas vacation at least once?
I don't. I've seen parts of it. That's it.
That's a tradition. I have to watch that at least once every Christmas that this cracks me up
the old one of the leg lamb. Oh, that's Christmas story. Yeah, you'll shoot your eye out, kid.
There's a house that I visit a front of mine. He had told me about it. And it's up.
I think on the west side of Cleveland, you could area think that's more of East. But in
turn, remember the name of the town? It's not you could, um, convict Drew Curries from over there.
I'm just of independence. In a case, the house that they shop at Louisiana is there. And they
have the at the leg lamb and everything. But it's just in the suburban neighborhood on the
Lima. That's your young town. Well, my brain's not cooperating with me tonight. But, uh,
I just wish I could remember. But that's probably at the house. And you can tour it. It's kind of
neat. You know, it's like being in the in Ralphie's parents house and that. And we are bumpers'
dogs. And, uh, yeah, that's a little bit of a thing you can see if you ever get in the
Cleveland area of Ohio. You can go to the Rockville Hall of Fame and you can see the Christmas
story house. Yeah, I think my favorite from the Christmas vacation, it's got to be cousin Eddie.
There's some quotes that, uh, I will not repeat since we're being family friendly.
I'm just filling in some notes. How many think that die hard is a Christmas move? You said die hard?
And there's a big debate I've heard on some of the podcasts and some other friends in that
are talking about. Well, they're not die hard. Is a Christmas movie because the debate is
it is in the timeline of Christmas. But people are saying that this because it's in the time
when a Christmas doesn't make it a Christmas movie. It just means it's a movie that was based on
the time of Christmas. And then there are the others that are saying, well, the whole fact that
the claim was doing everything he was doing in the building during Christmas makes it a Christmas movie.
Well, I've only seen that once and I think it might be a Christmas movie. It does have a Christmas
party that gets ruined. And to be honest, it's probably been, sorry, I was, but that was
sure they split in the late 90s. I think. 1988, maybe? Wow, it's that old. Wow. Yeah, I'd say it's
probably been at least a decades since I've seen it. I couldn't even tell it. Because I think the last
two movies of his that I've seen was, what was it, the sixth sense? And what was the one he
is the cab driver? Well, me and the children of each Chris Tucker fifth element. Oh, that's one of
my parents. Yeah, that's hilarious. I actually saw that recently. I forgot a lot of
favorites too. Yeah, I forgot how funny that thing is. I couldn't stand on Christmas or screaming
all that time though. You didn't bother me that much because if you, I don't want to typecast
the actors because I like, I like Chris Tucker and I like Keanu Reeves and I, but there are
those actors or Tom Cruise. They're like the same character in every movie. Because you
look at what's the one with Chris Tucker and Jackie, Chris are. He's kind of a noxious and not as
a noxious as in fifth element, but he's somewhat a noxious in Russia. And then you have Keanu Reeves.
He's pretty much Keanu playing Satan, Keanu playing Bill and Ted, Keanu, you know, playing
noxeter, et cetera. Tom Cruise has always been more of the adventure except for like
footleafs. Was there a new footloafs? You said in footloafs, I don't remember that footloafs. That was,
I think that was his first movie in the 80s or maybe I have the name wrong. No, that was Patrick's
Like I said, it could be a false memory from me because I seem to have missed remember things.
I didn't know that it was his one of his first movies because it was a scene where he was in his
boxers in a t-shirt doing some type of silly dance or something. It could have been the other guy.
I don't remember. I remember him doing a back football from the couch and who he's talk show was the
Bopiko burger. No, that would be um, that would be Goldberg.
Paul is she's the one that gave away new cars to people. Oprah. And he was famous for doing
a back football from her couch. And he was in his Scientology career. Oh, that was Tom Cruise
it in that. Yeah. And wasn't he an airplane movie thing? He played Mavor in the original.
Right. Right. And then in Top Gun, he played the pilot Top Gun. And he also did the mission
impossible. You're not asking any shade against something. The guy's talented actor. I mean,
he insists on doing his own sort of like Harrison Ford. So he recently admitted that
he happily, that's the stuntman, do his stuff now. But he was another one in addition to Tom
Cruise that always insisted that he did his own stunts. He's like, you're paying me to play a role
and patrons of the movie or wanting to see me. The other is I saw an interview. I can't remember if
it was one of the top talking on mission impossible. There's one of them. It was like a behind-the-scenes
thing of how they probably did the stunts and stuff on that movie. And they were interviewing
some of the stunt people. They were on that movie. We've been doing stunts for the other actors
and actresses. And I remember one of the stuntman they were asking about, uh, excuse me,
about Tom Cruise doing his stunts. And he's like, I give him a lot of props. He said,
there are some stunts where I'm like, nope. Not doing that one. Because I think there is one
I'll be dope here by generous starting up here. I'll stop talking here in a second.
I think he was in a cargo plane or something and he was hanging on to the side of the plane.
And it was doing like 130 some awesome hours. Something like that. He's like, nope,
not doing it. Well, I came back for a few minutes and it seems to be quiet. Oh,
not my hair. I haven't seen a new celebrity for a year. What kind of noise were you looking for?
Well, okay. And noise for someone is actually talking. It's not fun talking to myself. I can do
that without being on mumble. Probably get a more interesting conversation that way. I can be
pretty interesting at times. I don't believe we spoken before Raymond's out of the beltway.
I'm not looking at the right screen out of the who you are. What's your name?
This is Moss. No, we had not talked before. I don't think I've seen you on here, Mr.
Yeah, I've given some. I've done maybe three episodes this year.
Yeah, I haven't been alive since. I don't mind if you're on a show. I was on last few years.
I don't know. So I've been on a few times just for new years. Hey Dale, how's it going, buddy?
Hey, Moss, how are you doing? We're hanging in there. Yeah, I'm uh, oh, I haven't done anything
to know where I'm at again. Gaston, Indiana, Petro. Wow. Okay. Exciting. It's very 45. Because I
45 minutes north east of Indianapolis. Well, you know where I am. Yep. You don't Raymond. I am actually
in eastern Tennessee and about an hour or so outside of Knoxville.
I kind of drew them through part of Tennessee coming back from uh, to Texas from North Carolina
years ago. I had thought that that'd be a good place to be if it seemed like it was
mass country and free trees and stuff. Yep. The scenery is good. The weather is good.
As far as as far as the people go, that depends on what you're looking for. Well, I'm
down here on the south coast of Texas. So how bad could it be? Well, that is a good bit south of
the Beltway. I usually think of Beltway being the one ring around DC. Yeah, I got past that. I was
making that coming from DC, but uh, there's no ways around all of this city.
It's south of uh, Pasadena in the port. Don't be silly. Everyone knows Pasadena's outside of LA.
Pasadena Texas. Texas City, the port, Pasadena, Petown, or Petown.
Pasadena, I'm actually still in Houston, but just barely hanging on the southern edge.
Yeah, I can't carry corner there from uh, Switzerland and a Katie. Yeah, I'm more
over towards the website. Yeah, it's fun. I can remember these names, but I can't remember
the other names that I was trying to think of earlier. Brain is funny sometimes. But yeah, I know
Houston quite a bit. I go through there for work. That and Dallas, and then I have my eyes closed
when I'm going through Austin. And you're driving, right? Yeah. It's a, you see, the Lord's
parents, he don't hit me. Actually, it's really not that bad being with your eyes closed,
going through Austin because you're only going like 10, 20 miles an hour or so. Actually,
that might work. My wife got a new car last year. And no, this year. And it's got, um, when you put
on cruise control and keep you between the lines, if they have tiny lines that you can actually see,
which sometimes they don't. And you could, they're ready to let go. Well, for you, keep you
from hitting the lines and it's not at all some driving. And after a minute or two, it makes
noises and says, okay, fine, I'm quitting. You, you have to do this now. Yeah, it sounds like my truck
it told me today that it couldn't drive. And no, it told me I couldn't, uh, could use my cruise
control. I'm like, okay, I'm not going to use my cruise control then. And then it told me
either day that my blind spot, great hours were not functioning, except they were, because it kept
on lighting up whenever I get too close to the right line and too close to the left line. So I'm like,
yeah, I'm so glad we have computers and all these cars now. I cars of 2007, I think the next
car I'm going to just put even older so that I can't be sure it does have any size. Yeah,
my company truck I just got a couple months ago to 2025. But my car is 2017 and it doesn't have
any of that, any of that. It's on it. Well, as you know, I'm driving a 2014 Mazda 2 and it
barely has any belt or whistle at all. Stick shift, even. Really a stick shift. Ooh, ooh,
what a stick shift. Yeah, it's a five-feet stick and boy doesn't have nice zoom. A little bit
he gasoline engine gets 37 miles per gallon. I could have good clean the largest but nice. It's way
better. I didn't know that one had a stick as well because the one that you just are not the
well, you've sold a couple cars lately. The one, the one I wrote in when we went to dinner
the one night, that one was a stick too. That was the same car. I still have the Mazda 2.
Oh, you haven't sold it. I thought you sold that car. We thought about selling it because it's just
too damn much fun to drive. I thought I was going to get a ticket any day and nobody wanted it. Well,
one guy wanted it, but his wife wouldn't let him get it. Susanna is driving a 2014 Hyundai
Alantra with more bells and whistles and you can take a stick at and we're trying to get a Mazda 3
that's somewhere in the middle but both of those are automatic. Okay, you want to have a
motion automatic so it must have been her card then. Yeah, I still have the Mazda 2 but I might not be
having it much longer because the Mazda 3 that we're getting has a problem with it and
after we bought it, she decided we didn't cheat and like it and the dealership is trying to
figure out what they're doing about the problem and of course there aren't any mechanics in this
time of year and it's likely all wind up with that one but it's got a few bells and whistles,
automatic transmission but it actually gets better. Yes, I was in my little bitty Mazda 2.
What kind of problem is your card hanging away? What long was that? It's a Mazda 3 hatchback and
I haven't driven it while it was having a problem. Susanna said that something to do with the
transmission and the dealer we bought it from has it in the shop and they're trying to figure out
what whether they want to fix it or just pull bait and switch and give us a different vehicle.
Fresh it. Hmm. I say, I say, crush it. Now, my wife's a vehicle is lost. We just got a loan for it.
We're not going to crush it right now. No, they should crush it and give you a new one.
There are a lot of things they should do but I don't think that's what they're going to be doing
but we will find out in a few days. My experience owning the car I've gotten down the last
60 years taking it when I'll take it to dealers. They don't fix what you take it in for and they always break
one extra thing. Well, in this case we bought it from the dealer who can they owe us and there's
only one place to take it. That's the dealership. I tell a bummer. Also, that's why I want to call it
older than 2007. I talked to the mechanic that replaced my brakes and asked him if he could work
on some of the other stuff in my car and he said, no, because it's all computer. So he had to take it back to the dealer.
And so if you had bought it 2006, I could work on that. Well, like I said, there's almost nothing
bells and whistles on my little monster too. There was some security thing built into the key
but that said, there's no key fob or anything. I've got two trips of oddometers and that's all.
But the road that you don't have a road or a carburetor and I don't have the kind of money it takes
to keep a car that has a rudder and a carburetor on the road. Now, it doesn't cost me a thing.
It's just like once a month you have to open the hood and do a little something yourself.
That's how you keep those from you. You don't know me very well, do you?
Oh, excuse me. I didn't know this.
It was more complicated than the guitar I can't play with it.
And guitar looks pretty complicated to me.
Well, I will see about being back later. I don't know why I might just want to spend time with my wife
for a change. You'd be good, Dale, drive safe. Well, thanks. Good here and from you.
Good here and from you. Maybe you can drop by sometime. Yeah, they've been keeping me
in the and the south. I was by failure area last month. But the timing wasn't
wasn't good. So I didn't contact you. But he I was over by paper mill drive.
Over in that area and then I had to go north of their off of 140 up to 321. I can't remember
the name of the town. But that would have been too far for you to come anyways. And I was only
going to be there for like an hour or two. So well, like I said, anytime you're up I 81 you'll
as a call. I know. Or US 25. Yeah. Yeah. I usually either one sometimes. All right, you take care, Dale.
All right. Nice talking to you, Raymond. Yeah. What did you think of the the cult snap you had
a while ago there down in the coast? I had to wear a long pants. I thought I'd go a long
pants again today. It's terrible. I remember I was coming from I can't remember where I had to
live. I think I delivered somewhere. It's not important. But I was on the west side. I think I was
over towards Seely. Summer over there. Oh, that's what it was. I was delivered to the Walmart
distribution center there at Seely. And then they had me go over to I came
up or if it was the port or if it was Pasadena. But nobody was on the roads. I can't believe
that I went through Katie, went through Sugarland down around. Came up to 25 and never slowed
that except for maybe a couple of times for some of the inner changes. But yeah. And I got there
and the load to be up. And they said, you're lucky. Instead, be almost didn't come in
to work today. And I'm like, oh, really. He's like, where you're from, this isn't like these
to Ohio. Because, oh, you know how to drive from this. And like, yeah. But yeah, that was quite an event
down there. This this this pretty food is around here. If it takes the very slightest weather
people freak out and they don't know what to do. And then they say, let's go somewhere and get
the car and go crash. But yeah. Sorry. Yes, it's like when it gets foggy out, you know, my
batown out towards, you know, going towards Basin Lewis. And it gets foggy and people just don't
slow down in the end up with 10 and 15 car accidents. You can a case like, when you were saying
time I driving straight on for a use. And I was thinking, you'll never do that in all of
two of the elements. Except for the first year of the pandemic, I remember I was parked at the
petro and Wutherford, Texas, which is about 40 miles west of Fort Worth on 20. Yeah, I know where
weather for this. And I was, it was, I left at 6 a.m. one day morning. And I couldn't leave any
later. But I thought, well, let me see how the roads are because coming up through the
Arizona and the Mexico and stuff was abandoned, you know, no traffic at all. So I leave
Wutherford at 6 a.m. And my crew said for 70, I never tapped the break until
the 35, I think it was the 35 year of a 35 W interchange. But that was only the slow down to about
60 to let the vehicle merge in. And then I was right back up to the speed. And I was all the way
through, through Dallas, Brockwall, Thay, Pumbi, I was hammered down. And I'm like, you know, that's
never going to happen again as long as I live. Yeah, I didn't go Dallas here. I didn't leave a house
during the pandemic. What do you drive on? You need a big truck driver? Yeah, yeah, my company
was last month of the January December. I got into November. It's a 20, 25, 10 worth T680. I've
nicknamed it night writer. The only thing it, well, it technically does talk to me, but that's the
call. Come, that's when I company sends me messages and stuff. It'll read about to me. But I pretty
much, the full name of my truck. I call it kit, Christine, because it tries to drive itself.
Yeah, Christine tries to kill me. Yeah, as getting that point, yeah, I say, this is what
trying to train, so I could talk and swallow at the same time. Yeah, it's like pretty much the
night writer side keeps the smart cruise and tells me if I'm getting too close to a car or too close
to either lane. And then the Christine side tries to kill me, like, somebody cuts me off, and
they're already three quarters three down the ramp, and then it hits the brakes. And like, too slow,
there's, give me. Yeah, I told one of the people at the company, and I said, if this truck
kills me, I'm coming back to harm you. Yeah, I'm a Stephen King fan, so I need a new talking about.
I've got a cousin that was used to do long truck drives, and his wife didn't like it too much,
and he got stuck in it. He started to see if the company would give him something that
where he could stay, you know, from home at that. So they gave him a job where if they have a factory
and the factory makes something of a material that's used by another factory. So one factory
makes this stuff, and the other factory is loaded into a truck, and then he drives about a quarter
of a mile to the other place, and then he unloaded it, and I use that to make something else.
That's all he does, but back in the port between the two, and the union, his union,
had been preventing the company from making a conveyor belt between the two buildings.
I haven't talked to him lately, I suspect he's retired now. Yeah, we've had some issues with some
of the manufacturing sites in Mexico, because some of our customers have some other stuff
partially assembled, or they send stuff down to be assembled. They, like example,
will send wire down and develop the Mexicans. We'll make the wire harnesses, and then we'll take
the wire harnesses back to the manufacturing plant for them to be installed. So I know what you mean
at the last time, I was down in El Paso, where I'm going now. I think this was one
two ago. Yeah, truck drivers were striking, because they were getting tired of being harassed
by Visitas, which is the mafia, paramilitary group down there in Mexico.
They wanted to use their truck doctors? No, they have their own none of us, the
Americans go into Mexico. They do a trailer exchange, or we will leave a trailer at a secured
lot, and then Mexican driver will come in, take that trailer across the border, and bring it back,
either empty or bring it back loaded or something, and we take it to the customer in the United
States. But they were complaining about the border violence, and it's not even the fact that
they're being personally harassed. It's the fact of collateral damage. You know, and these
truck drivers, I didn't have to call them traffickers, drug lords, or whatever they are.
Those shooting, and they have no discretion. You get in your way, you get in their way,
and you'll be lucky to make it out. So they, because that's just an impossible environment to live
in and work in. You try to make a do your thing. During the Vietnam War, I was, as a soldier,
you're going into people who live there, or like, trying to grow rice, and they're out there,
plowing and picking rice, and growing things, and walking through their territory,
and pretending they're not there, and they're trying to pretend you're not there, it's crazy.
And I can't imagine what it would be like to be on the other end of that.
Helping with bad enough being on the end, I was on the end.
I've heard stories from some other veterans that have excuse me,
have experienced that, and I've talked to some of the, not too many of the drivers, because
they're English, it's not very good, but yeah, I mean, it's, excuse me again,
it's like I was involved in a shoot-out once when I was leaving a customer in a Chicago on
West suburbs. Well, still in town, but it's not like downtown. It was still like 130,
there's something like that. And the long story short, I'm driving, you know, the semi,
on the road, when I come to it, I'm coming up to a T intersection to get onto the main highway,
or the main highway, but the main, you know, main road. Now, looking at my mirrors,
and this SUV is just floating, and it's closed by me and I'm like, dude, you're not going to make
that turn. Sure enough, see the brake lights come on, and he rolls it into this person's front.
And then I see Chicago PD, their sirens coming, and they, and I stop, excuse me again,
I stop probably going to be 100 feet, 75 feet before the actual intersection. And the cars
roll up, and they're parked beside me, and they're parked, and they're coming in from the main street,
and all of a sudden, I'm sitting there in the driver's seat, and I hear this, not like,
second, and I know what's in there, I'm knocking my door, let's Chicago PD, and he's like,
get out of your truck, I open up the door and get out truck, and he says, get down, and I said,
that was fire, and he said, yes, it's a keep behind your trailer, none of that. They're not aiming at you.
So you're probably better off ducking down, staying in your seat, just kind of ducking down.
That's why I told him, but what I did was I just, uh, shimmyed down to the, uh, and scrunched down
behind my, uh, trailer axles, uh, back, and uh, waited for them to give me the old clear, but yeah,
guy kicked the door open on the SUV, and uh, I was peeking out from, uh, from the tire, and yeah,
he's just, you like, promised like, uh, like an animal popping out of the hole, you just pop up.
Stocked up back down, and they had the, they heard the, uh, big, uh, engines like, you know,
like, like, my truck. There was this water team, they come into a fire, they're, their AKs,
and uh, a little about him, and they surrendered. Because uh, I've never heard a live, uh,
automatic weapon in person.
And that was like, this is the kind of like holy crap.
But that was a fun experience.
Yeah, that spawn is like you said.
You said you had a peak.
No, that's when you roll completely behind something.
And you get out your phone and all your book.
You read a little bit or you think about something else.
And you're a single little song.
You take a little gift for your bottle.
And until they say, okay, you're back in your truck.
Okay, I'm done.
You don't go.
Oh, yeah, let me peek out here.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Well, there was a, there was a column.
And I'm like, did they get them?
And that's when I sort of, this peaked around.
And then I saw, uh, some, uh, dust,
and get disturbed around the of the troll car,
which was in the truck 65 feet long.
And the car was ahead of me or ahead of my trucks.
So if you're about over 70 or so feet,
I mean, total 70.
And I saw, you know, the bullets hit my ground.
I'm like, nope, I scrunched up.
Deal, you know, on my, on my, on my butt.
My knees up to my chest.
And I'm this, there's my chin on my, on my knees going.
What am I doing here?
But the, uh, I heard the officer yell back to me.
And it was all clear.
Well, that was that, so.
Okay, you can go there.
Well, it's funny, because I heard doors closing in their hood
engines drive in the way.
And then I hear a trunk closed because they were put in their assault weapons away in their trunk.
And the guy, you know, back to me.
You know, like I said, it's clear.
And I get up.
I start walking up back towards my truck.
And that's it.
Is this a common occurrence?
This is, um, I have to remember this was like 2008, 2007.
And is it well?
The rolling of the SUV into the yard.
And that, you know, that, that's not very often.
But, you know, gun, gun fights.
Yeah, that's unfortunately when you're in the Haywood.
I can't remember the name of the town I was in.
But he said, yeah, when you're in the, uh, is it this?
I can't remember the name of the town anymore.
But he said, yeah, when you're in this, this, uh, car of the city.
It's not uncommon to hear, uh, hear small arms, even during the day.
I don't know if it's changed since then.
He had a special small arms.
So there's just occasional cannons.
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm thinking there's probably more like locks sometimes.
Maybe.
Oh, no, not rockets.
Oh, no.
No, but, uh, I have heard of, uh,
4th of July is all year round.
It's far as border rockets and M80s.
Well, that would be pretty annoying.
My dog right now is having a sit because, uh,
he's cowering into the bits somewhere because of the firecrackers.
I talked to, uh, and, uh,
I was, I had, oh, I'd have to look at map.
It's not important.
I was well blessed with, uh, Chicago.
I was, uh, Aurora.
I can't remember.
It was, but it was South of Rockford.
Any case.
The, uh, the short version of the story.
This guy was, uh, part behind my truck.
And I'm waiting a line to go into this place to get loaded.
And they had to park the street because he didn't have from the park on their, uh,
because the way, the way he came in, he came in on the street.
He turned right.
He went down.
Carol's parallel to the building.
He turned right.
And then backed into one of the three dogs.
And then he would pull out, you know,
and then the next truck of coming and, you know, do that whole thing over here.
So I'm parked on the street waiting to come in.
And this guy knocks on my door and said,
you hit my car.
And I'm like, no, it didn't go away.
Instead, I'm calling the police.
And I go, go ahead.
I don't care.
Like I said, long story short.
I think there's Aurora.
I don't know.
I can't, I need anyways.
He shows up.
And I see him in my mirror.
And this was probably what 15 years ago or so.
And he's like looking.
And then he's walking up along my trailer up to where my truck is.
And he's just like shaking his head.
No.
He comes over and I open up my door,
driver said door.
And he looks at me.
And he said, I know you didn't hit him.
I said, oh, was it that obvious?
I said, that's hail of damage.
What type of idiot does he think I am?
He said, what?
How many of these are truck?
I said empty.
I'm up 32, 33,000 pounds.
Trather itself up 14,000.
And he said, if you hit him,
you would have, you know, met a crease.
And then so he tells the guy, you know,
the pound sand and not to bother him,
making a false police report.
And he explained to me, he said,
that bumper running up on your car.
If he did back up and hit you,
there would be like a six foot wide scrape going up your hood.
But anyways, he would tell me he was just talking with me
for a few minutes after he finished with the guy.
He was telling me that I was nothing was written up.
Nothing is recorded.
It is as if nothing happened.
But he was talking to me.
He told me that his father was a truck driver.
Oh, this stuff.
And he told me that I think his brother,
his uncle, was one of the security
for the production company for the Blues Brothers
is what I was getting out for this whole rambles.
And he was able to be on the set while they were filming
many parts of that movie.
Because a lot of that movie was filmed in Chicago.
And he's a little great movie.
But the change was great.
Yeah, the mall, the mall that used to be there.
That mall was already condemned and was waiting to be demolished
in the production company was like, hey,
could we film a scene where a car drives through the mall?
And then, well, you know, pay for any damages.
And they're like damages.
It's condemned.
And we're just waiting for the city to approve its destruction.
I'm like, I think that is Lou.
Yeah, I think that Lou is before.
I'm wondering if they searched around for a place
that was already going to be torn down
because, oh, man, it's a lot of damage they're doing.
So that makes a lot of sense.
But it is funny.
Because I said, where does that mall have?
And he said, you know, when you're going on house
to, on one, I don't quote me on this.
I'm thinking of this as the name of the road
and the route number.
So I'm doing this for like five years ago.
Yeah.
So, hey, you know, when you take out one from 80,
you go north, and you see that big concrete,
like football field, before the grass,
if the size, before the grass and stuff,
you'll see some like cars and trucks park their occasionally.
And we're here at driven by that many times.
That's where the mall was.
I'm like, oh, really?
But he was told me about all the memories
that he had with his dad's brother
up there doing the security and stuff.
And the high speed chases under the under the L.
And they had to block off the road.
So nobody would cut off the, the dodge going through the,
underneath the elevated, you know, the L.
And the A's kind of funny.
And he's, uh, is telling me that the nickname
for a cook county, which is the county seat of Chicago.
They called it Cruck County.
Well, that makes us cook county.
It took me a second to remember what was the name of the county was.
A down in Texas, we don't pay a lot of attention
to county names.
Hope it in places like Illinois.
Way in Texas.
What you got?
327 counties.
I can imagine not knowing.
Knowing the name.
Is that all we got?
Like, the last time I looked at the bio is curious.
Because I remember this is one of the funny things
about being a truck driver.
I mean, it's a little bit better now
to technology to look information up and everything.
But I remember, could I've been driving since December of 2000.
Very, this is well before we had smartphones and mobile internet.
I remember I was in each North Dakota at a restaurant.
And I'm in the truck and start to rock.
And it's like rockin' pretty good.
So I, yeah, trucks radio has a, when to call that,
but the radio, no other radio.
So I found the channel that they were broadcasting on.
And they're like, a funnel cloud was located 30 miles south
by southeast of the whatever airport name that they gave.
And I'm like, oh dear.
And I'm like trying to look on this motor carriers out of this.
Of where I'm at.
And I'm trying to find this airport.
And it's, you know, the town.
And I'm like, I don't know what county I'm in.
I don't.
It's like, said, and there's like a couple of occasions like that
where I've been part, like I was at a rooster in many,
one Manhattan Kansas.
You know, the same thing where, you know, there's a
radio warning you're spotted.
They're saying, yeah, these counties are affected.
And I'm like, I don't know what county I'm in.
I think every, I think you, obviously, you have that that happened more often
the radio people.
But who knows if you drive across country, what county you're in?
Now, I'm in southeast Texas.
And east Texas, the counties go past every 15 or 20 minutes.
You're in another county.
Up in the, in New England, you every 15 or 20 minutes.
You're in another state.
So, I can see where county.
What county?
I was thinking, when you're talking about the guy saying he hit your car,
hit your truck for your truck or his car.
Don't you have cameras all over this thing.
Now, cameras are so easily gotten.
Aren't you all well provisioned with cameras to keep
four hours from being a problem?
Well, we do now.
This was like 15 years ago.
I think I think the first
camera system I had on the truck was, well, for the company that
companies that I was, I can't say for the entire industry.
But the first one that I had was, I think in 2012,
summer, summer around there.
I mean, my company here, when I work for now,
we've had these camera systems.
My anniversary is going to be seven years in April.
So, I'm thinking we've had these cameras for at least five years.
But yeah, anymore, we don't want to mess with these trucks,
because you're being recorded.
And our company, they don't do this much anymore,
because they made the point across to us.
But when we first got them, they would point out how much money
that these cameras have saved us.
In the litigation, like they had one,
this one suit was filed against us for like $0.2 million.
And they turned over the footage to the lawyers,
and the lawyers dismissed the case.
I mean, I've had my own experiences where somebody accused me
as sideswipe in their car, and there was no evidence on the camera
that I was even remotely close to them.
And we've had drivers that say that,
you know, they claim that we run people off the road.
We had this one video of this young lady coming down the ramp.
And she's got her wrists on the bottom part of the steering ball
just text in a way.
And she comes up on the side of our truck.
And the ramp ends.
And now she's on the shoulder of the road.
And it got her attention.
And she panicked and hit the brakes.
And then, you know, merged into the, onto the industry.
And, quote, please, and say that one of our trucks,
you know, ran off the road.
And the, we had the ability, or our safety,
because the ability to email a link to the footage,
because it's a stored online.
There's like a website portal that you can go to,
and watch the videos, profile enforcement, etc.
So it's, you don't have to address it in court.
You don't even have to get the company lawyers involved.
You say, here's what happened.
And the police can look at it and say a lot of money.
Yeah, the one that had them to two after a million dollar thing,
was a proactive thing.
And the lawyer has got a poll of the police report that showed
the link to the camera footage.
And they pretty much called up and said,
yeah, this ignore that, we're dismissing that suit against you.
Yeah, a lot of that time, it doesn't even go that far.
It's like it's the officer in the cruiser watching the video on their laptop.
And it's, they had a video they showed.
And she says, I'm the way for films.
And I was saying, you see the car bump, go off onto the shoulder,
and then she looks up and she looks to the left, looks to the right,
and then slow us down, all on camera.
And the officer was, you know, not too, not too pleased.
Because, you know, they don't really enforce it.
But filing a false police report is a fine.
Yeah, there are a lot of things they don't enforce that they show it
and some things they enforce, probably which they should look the other way.
Yeah, like speed limits.
I'm okay with speed limits being, at least, I'm not talking one over two over.
But I'm, yeah, speed limits, I'm okay with in keeping people going,
you know, if it's, the speed limit is 35 because the side roads are every,
you know, 200 feet you got another side road coming in.
Yeah, that's a reasonable thing or 40 miles an hour or whatever it is.
And people typically go 50, that's, that's not good.
I talk, I talk to a Texas state trooper at our rest area in between,
all of this in Hill Country.
So I'm thinking they was somewhere between Van Horn,
not Van Horn.
Come on, bring in, think, any case, it was, it was West of San Antonio.
It was, it's after you go through Van Horn,
Ifdy goes, Ifdy do the crossover across for I20 begins.
Anyways, you'll see a sign for it when you are going east on 10.
It will come to me later, but because there's a restoration on that area.
You talk to the state trooper.
And this was just after they went to a, was it 75, 80 miles an hour?
And I asked him, what's the fastest you clock somebody going through here?
And you actually pulled them over and he said, 120, and I said, what, what did they tell
you?
And he said, well, some were like, oh, he's only going 120 for like a minute or like 30 seconds
and then some of them are like, well, let's know the cars on the road.
If I were to solve one, I would have slowed down and he said, do you realize how many feet per
second you're traveling, someone comes in on and on or after going even 70 miles an hour
and you're going 50 miles an hour faster than they are.
You're not going to be able to slow down.
And if you try to swear, you're just going to turn yourself into a festival.
Then there's the, I don't have a problem.
So if everybody's driving 85, if the roads are up to it on the highway where the only
side road every five miles, I don't have a bit of problem is going 80 and 65.
That's fine, I don't do it typically, although there was a time where I did, but if everybody
is going 65, 70 and you're driving 90, which means you're changing lanes, you know,
three or four times a minute, that's record driving and they'd be stopped and somebody
needs to drag you out of your car and beat you up.
Well, that might be strange.
Yeah, I mean, it's as pausing to see if anyone else wanted to jump in and be a conversation.
Oddly, I've noticed Southeast Texas has the slowest speeds because if you're up Dallas,
Amarillo, anywhere in the Northern Hill Country, Austin, San Antonio, El Paso, you've got 75,
80 mile in our speed limits.
As soon as you leave Seely and you're coming into a Haiti, it goes down to 65, there's
sections going through Vidor and Beaumont, 60 miles an hour, 55 miles an hour.
And I think it's kind of odd that the speed of the steering there, I mean, a good section
all the way from the Louisiana State border all the way to Houston is only 70 for like a very
short, in very short sections, most of it's like 65.
Yeah, you've got an out, I live in Houston, most of my mountains in Houston, I hardly ever
need to sit in this, but you've got to get a long way away from downtown Houston before you ever
see even 70. And I didn't even, I was surprised one time, I was heading out somewhere,
San Antonio or somewhere, I saw this feeling, they changed to 70, if I don't know, when did they do that?
Yeah, it's been a while. I'm thinking how I'm going to have an
I know it's in the 75 for at least at least seven years. Well, I know it's been as a good
while now, but I mean, I just remember the first time I saw it, I had not seen an announcement
or anything in paper about it and I was just surprised because I was probably doing 65 and people
really zip and pass. People don't, that's definitely sold a 75 mile or a sign, which means people
were really jobbing 85. Yeah, I hadn't heard an announcement either, it's this one day, they just
showed up and I'm like, oh, what does matter to me? I can't go any faster than what I'm going
now, so I'm not going to worry about it. And if I'm going to the hill country and I'm heavy,
I'm going to go slower anyways. And I know a friend's former co-worker, he retired, that he was a
heavy hole and he had this monstrous, the powerful truck. He would all like excavating equipment
stuff that weighed, you know, 100,000 pounds. He would talk about going across item and his truck
can do it every bit of, you know, 90, 100 miles an hour. He's talked about going through the
I remember he had made a mention to a mutual friend. So, yeah, they made sections of I-10,
east of a man or an 80 miles an hour, so that doesn't going to have to slow down now.
I often thought, as I see signs, how difficult it must be for truck drivers, where you go,
I'm not sure Texas does it anymore, but they used to be one speed limit for cars, a lower speed
limit for trucks. trucks not allowed in the inside lane, trucks not allowed in the outside lane,
trucks not allowed in this lane for the next 50 miles or something. And it's like, okay,
now you've got to remember all that as long as as well as I'm having trouble remembering 90,
60 miles an hour or 65. Yeah, not to ramble on too much about that, but yeah,
get this to give some brief examples. California is 70 for cars 55 for trucks. Now, that has an
interesting dynamic because there are the trucks that will go 70, there are the trucks that are
go 65, there are the trucks that will go 60 and then there are the trucks that go 55. Now,
me since I've been doing this for two decades, I will roll with the flow. I won't go that
fact, you know, 70, but there have been occasions where I've gone across, I've four-year
crossed Joshua Tree and a few female mountains and definitely at 65 because there's nothing out there.
Literally, nothing out there. I mean, Edwards has thousands of miles of land out there,
Edwards Air Force Base. I think NASA had a facility out there. And that creates an interesting
dynamic because they're on an EG at the cars that are doing 75 and 80, but now you have a whole
group of trucks that are either going 75, 60 or 55, which adds to the congestion and problems.
Yeah, that's what I'm always thought was the problem is that it doesn't matter how fast
everybody's going. It's long that everybody's going about the same speed. It's not difficult,
changing lanes. It's somebody's going a little faster or a little slower. You just move over and
get ahead of them and move back over wherever you need to do, but if somebody's going way slower,
you want to go around them. If they're going a little bit slower, it's not that hard to just drop
back and not worry about it. Or it's easier to get around them if you want to go a little faster,
but when the speeds are so different, it seems I can get a problem. Yeah, and like I said,
not to ramble too much about it, to give it to some other examples. Now, I haven't been in Oregon
and probably haven't been in Oregon in at least 10 or 12 years. But they had sections where it
was 60 for trucks in 75 or 70 for cars. Nevada is 75 cars. I think 70 for trucks. I think
Nomexico is 75 in 70. Arizona is 75 in 70. I think there are sections that are 75 for both.
I can't remember specifically. Texas is unified except what you mentioned before about lane
restrictions. Like when you're going on 35, once you... I can't remember if there is a section
between San Antonio and Bronfals, I don't think so. I think once you get on the north side and
your Bronfals, there is a section of like 95 miles where no trucks in the left lane. And then there
are sections. I think there could be sections on 45. I can't remember. In any case,
Tennessee, we'll have areas that are 60 for trucks at 70 for cars, specifically like through Memphis,
Bristol. Knoxville got rid of theirs. Knoxville as you can go the same speed as cars. And
Nashville, everyone slows down to 55 through there. And then I think most of the south trucks go as
fast as the cars do. Like Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, as memory serves me. But California also
has lane restrictions for trucks. And it's pretty much you have to stay in a certain lane just
to be safe. Because you go from like two lanes to five lanes to three lanes to four lanes.
Well, if you don't want to talk about trucks anymore. Oh no, no. Why no, that's okay. Why is it
called a geeky, a geeky of broadcasts? Oh no, what I'm saying is the others that are listening
and not trying to, you know, the conversations. I understand that, that's okay. And I don't
think there are worse things that we'll be talking about in this 24 hours. But I'll be talking
about trucking. I was kind of, I was, is it interesting? But I'm thinking there's probably not
that make truck drivers out of here because you don't have much time to ride a coal ball or a path on
or play with your litigee computer. Well, yeah, because I don't mind talking about trucking and
I could like being somewhat of an advocate for trucking to try to make people aware of certain
dangers and the fact that we're not vindictive. I mean, some drivers, you can have a bad driver,
regardless if they're driving a car, driving a truck, driving a semi. But I think people just have
to just take a deep breath and realize that this person is doing a job. They have
possibly been driving for the past seven, eight hours through many states of traffic, not states,
but I mean, physical, you know, the actual states, not the state of the traffic, which can be,
you know, congestion or, you know, bad weather or anything, but the multiple, you know, states.
So this give that person a little bit of some leniency because he's not only just dealing with your
traffic, he's dealing with the traffic in the city that he was in an hour ago, two hours ago,
three hours ago, and overall, I think people usually are pretty good around trucks. There are
going to be the people that want to cut you off. But the way I look at it after two decades is
they're not, not very many are actually signaling out the trucks. They're doing it to everyone.
If you're in a lane set, you're not in a lane. Yeah, that's the thing. I've always figured
a truck is more likely to be staying in a sling, more likely to signal a lane change,
less likely to slam on a break, less likely to do something to cause the accident. If I don't
drive right, stay next to a truck because that's just scary. Because there's so big, but
you guys get on past them, but you don't worry about them drifting into your lane to
cover their texting or about paying attention. And if it's after 10 o'clock at night,
in you figure one in three people is at least a little bit tipsy. Sometimes it's probably
hard. And that's the way I feel that truck driver. So you give them some space, you give them a fly
as if they're one, they want to move into your lane. You always ease off the accelerator
and fly off my headlights to say you can move over. And I try not to get, I don't jump in front of
them to because they're being prudent, letting a little space between them in the next car,
which car driving stuff do. So yeah, I understand what you're doing. And I applaud the consistency
of front drivers. And it's you probably do a good job for being consistent at the end of the
day or day that I do. It's the biggest thing is getting stamina. I had pretty good because
when I got my driver's license, I was the grocery getter or I was take grandma at the
disappointment. I am glad to hear that you have a driver's license. And oh yeah, that's a
revelation that some of these states are finding out that some of these people do not,
which is kind of kind of scary when they're driving 80,000 pound vehicle and you haven't even been
licensed. Yeah, but I would take turns driving the vacation because my dad, we never flew
very many times for vacation because my dad always said, well, you can't see anything six miles in
the air. And so he wanted the drive to wherever we're going for a vacation. So I got to build
at my endurance for driving the Montreal or driving the to a little beach or you know,
setter, et cetera, et cetera. So when I got my CDL, I already had the endurance of driving like
eight hours nine hours. So it was a big difference, a big difference because I've got exceeding six
mirrors. I have my fender mirrors. I've got my convicts and convicts and convicts and cave mirrors.
I need on each side and I've got you know 53 foot trailer behind me. So the wind and you know,
other things that you can keep your mind occupied. And you can get tired, especially if it's high
wind or getting that upper arm workout trying to keep the truck in the lane. And so I pretty much
like a sailboat trying to lean into the wind. And you said, but not staying beside the trucks.
If anyone is listening to this or everyone, you know, that's listening to this. Now if you're
in so traffic, that's one thing. But if you're going in your state speeds and if you can help it,
don't hang out next to me. Now if you want to be in the mid section, that's not as bad.
Though you still can be in the line of fire in case one of my drive tires blows out. But if
the thing, that's 150 pound tire of 125 pounds of air, 120 pounds of air, you don't want that
exploding in your face. So if you're going to pass me do it quickly, because I've had in the past
a drive tire blow out. And it snapped the rod iron, rod iron, holding up my mud flap. And it
ricocheted across the side of my trailer. And there were like one inch or so gashes in the in the
rail, where you see you with a marker later at, or the turn signal is at. So that's my PSA.
It's uh, don't hang out next to me, because you might get yourself a very good surprise.
I saw a trailer wheel come off in the 18th winter one time on 35 at highway speeds. And I was
I was in a parking lot just on the uh, theater road. And one wheel came off. And the truck
just kept going didn't have a clue. One of those, the outside wheels of the, the back of the trailer
came off. And just bounced over the, uh, the side of the little gate, the fence there. And
just bounced across the middle. We needed an onto the theater road and just kept bouncing
and kept going. And it would have a mile. This was really sailing. And that thing, the theater yard
place. And number, I'm not even, I can just guess, it, I don't know 15 more years ago.
I had traveled through uh, Gary, Indiana on 80, 80, 84. And I see emergency vehicles on the side of the road.
So we get over lane. And up ahead, I see a flood then missing a coil. And I looked and like, oh,
that's what that is. Uh, a coil of a wire or steel rather, came off his, uh, trailer and unraveled
and then rolled itself. And it was like a couple miles long. It is unraveled. That's the road.
That's the right. Oh, man. I mean, it was like he, nobody got hurt. But they had multiple,
mobile loading rigs, you know, come, you know, pick up truck. You have a F-650s, a F-750, you know,
pick up trucks with the utility boxes on there. And they had the loading stuff and they were
cutting up this wire and loading it on to other trucks to a hallway. Wow, I, now the road
itself weighed tons. And um, I can imagine who's actually on one day as a road. I can't imagine
seeing that either could kind of, I prefer that, uh, I'm speaking, had a friend that did flood
bidding for a few years. And he told me that those roles can be 50, 50, 3,000 pounds.
Just that, that's, that's easy. Sure. Right. That's not hard to believe at all.
Just that that's again. Let me get my calculator. 53,000. And the average car is about 3500 pounds.
I'm just guessing. That's the weight of 15 automobiles.
So they had that kind kind of scary.
That's why you see them. Well, if I can one of them in the center of the trailer to distribute the weight,
usually with the big trucks load stuff right. And that is, it's the people with pick-up trucks,
with the refrigerators. We saw, we were about truck the other day that there's a pick-up truck
with a refrigerator and it didn't appear that many tie-downs at all. That going, uh,
that guy goes very far. That thing's going out the back. Yeah, just so a picture on
telegram earlier today. That's somebody shared in the groups I'm in.
I'll be a SUV going down the road with a touchscreen TV strapped to the luggage rack.
And the wind is lifting it up and it ends up like at a 45 or so degree angle,
somebody took a picture of it. That was probably still there when it got home, but it had been
beaten to pieces. Yeah, he probably had the, I hope he bought the protection plan.
Yeah, he had a friend. This was several years ago. He had bought the TV, I think,
it was from Sam's Club. And he didn't know that his wife got the protection plan,
because this was back when TV's were expensive. I mean, like now he can get what 75
and TV for like $400, you know, type of thing. This was back when, you know, 43 inch,
you know, TV was, you know, 2 grand. So they got this. I came in for help. They were
48 inch, something like that. 43, 48, something like that 50 inch TV. And they
headed for years. And one day they went to turn along, make her the crack noise, and their
son was like, I suppose something burning. And a sure enough TV short of out or something.
So like, well, we got, you know, 57 and whatever years out of it. And it's small. We're
thinking about getting the bigger TV anyways. Long story short. They go to the same, you know,
Sam's Club. And they're looking and they're like, wow, it's going to just so much bigger and
less expensive than what we paid for whatever inch. And this is, is it a hell? It wasn't,
you know, like, told him how old is it? Did you get the protection plan? You know, like,
and my friend, Mike's like, no, and his wife Sarah's like, well, I know you didn't, but I might
have in the salesman's like earlier, the person there at the sense of, let's come open the
computer. Let me get your information. Would you believe it was that week that the television
worrying that the extended replacement plan expired? And they were able to get, I can't remember
what they had to pay. I think it was something like $200 or something like that. I can't remember
what the stipulation wasn't a plan. But they were able to get this, the 65 and 70 inch TV for like $200
that was like $200. That's pretty remarkable. You know, these days you can't get a plan
more than a couple of years. We have a, you know, we have a 32 inch flash screen that calls $1500.
And here, two or three years ago, I got a 43 inch for less than 500. And this Christmas
song told my wife, you know, Mike TV's not really big. And she said, no, you can refer for that
same $500 up for the 43 inch. You can now get a 60 or something. And crazy, when I, when I was on
dedicated to the council, Walmart era, some parts, this was back 2008. And some areas didn't
have Walmart trucks to deliver. You'll see some areas where Walmart trucks are not pulling
the Walmart trailers. And it's also a capacity issue too. Anyways, I remember when those TV
started to get popular. And I had to be on the dock while they were unloading the truck for safety
reasons. And a member of management had to be there to observe the unloading too. So we were just
talking amongst ourselves. And I remember them telling me about the their sales, what they were doing
of the TVs and everything. And the price of them was this crazy, I remember one time at the
black Friday, they had people like lined out waiting to come into the store. But now you look at
the prices. Now it's even more crazy. I think the amount of income is in Sam's club doing
some shopping before I left for work. I think it was like a 75 inch or 85 inch. I can't remember what
it was. And it was a lesser brand. Trying to remember what it was called. But it wasn't like the
Sam's sons and the L. Cheese and bigger names. It was some other brand. And that was like $400.
I remember my parents spent $400 on the 19 inch television for my bedroom because I got the
grades that they were one. I mean, I have that school and now in that $400. Of course, the inflation
is like $400. Now it can get you a 75 inch total. Yeah, there was a time that TV's called the
clothing closest, much as a car. Again, they like a good use car.
I just didn't chat about prices of things. One of the telegram groups. I mean, any had this
picture from my 1970, whatever it was. I can't remember. 72, 72, 72 were some around there saying
the average cost of a house was $50,000. And this is the average price of a car was like $4,000.
And they were saying, boy, if we could just go back back to then, you know, that time from
this idea is what we could buy. And it's no, yeah, but you also have to remember that the person's
average income was about $20,000. And that was middle America. It said, you look at it now,
things really haven't changed that much in proportion to the income. It's now we have $50,000
cars, $500,000 houses. Well, you know, some things have been, stay roughly the same portion.
And other things have technology stuff is typically done significantly down. I've got, you know,
like camera equipment and electronics and things have gone down in class, adjusted for inflation.
The first part about you was about $3,200 for. And that was making $2,000, $30,000 an hour.
Yeah, I'm thinking it was $2,000, 1999, $2,000 is my, let's see,
wasn't my 20 member now. First car at least, second car I purchased. It was my third new car
that I had a loan on. You know, it's $28,000. It was a premium sports sedan. You know,
it upgraded my, the Saturn, Saturn sedan that I had. And I remember my dad, I drove home in it.
And after he got home from work, we all went out to dinner and I drove them in my car to
to the restaurant. My dad's like, you don't have to tell me, but I'm a gingerbread for this car.
And we never were going to be shy about amounts in my family. As a $28,000. He said,
you know, the house you grew up in, said, yeah, the one thing you disobeyed when you retired.
So yeah, we built that house in 1968 for $28,000.
My first house called 17,000, but of course it was used.
Yeah, they built this from the ground up. It's the difference.
And you see, it's rigged so that you can't save money. You have to, if you're not using it,
if it's not earning money, if money is not earning money, you can't even save it. It's not fair.
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