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Episode: 2419
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Title: HPR2419: Alien Brothers Podcast S1E01 - Introduction
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Source: https://hub.hackerpublicradio.org/ccdn.php?filename=/eps/hpr2419/hpr2419.mp3
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Transcribed: 2025-10-19 02:44:05
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This in HPR episode 2,419 entitled Alien Brothers Podcast S1-201 introduction, it is
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posted by first time post the Alien Brothers Podcast, ABB and in about 126 minutes long
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and Karim and exquisite flag.
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The summary is, meet the Alien Brothers, Caspar and Rutiger, two tech junkies that take
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nothing sacred.
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This episode of HBR is brought to you by an honest host.com.
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The Alien Brothers Podcast with Caspar and Rutiger.
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There we go, and action, action.
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Aren't you lucky a podcast listener to be here for this inaugural session of a podcast
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without a name?
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That's how ready we are.
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Yeah, it's all going to go down here, and you are here live to listen to the formation
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of something, which as of yet has no name.
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You sound so professional.
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Well, I've been listening and podcast for quite a long time, so I have an idea of how
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to parse words and think about things.
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Even President Obama would sound professional and unique and bring strengths to our American
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culture.
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Okay.
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Do you think you could sound less professional?
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I could certainly drive.
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Yep.
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So this is Rutiger.
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Rutiger.
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Nice to meet you.
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Nice to meet you.
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What's your name?
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My name is Caspar.
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Caspar?
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Yes.
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Like the friendly ghost.
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Like the friendly ghost.
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For that, that degenerate kid from Larry Clark's Seminole movie, kids, oh, kids.
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Yeah.
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That's like my kids.
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How can we not?
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Oh, geez.
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So where were you?
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Wait, wait, wait, we got to, we got it for the benefit since we have, we don't even know
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what we're doing.
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Well, well, do we need to lay foundation?
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We need to help the people listening.
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We need to dig a hole and pour some concrete first here, I think we need to dig the hole,
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get in the hole, then someone else needs to pour the concrete to put an end to put an
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end to this, to this folly before the misery started, please say, could I have some more
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concrete?
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Can I have some more concrete, please say, can I have some more?
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This is a lovely beach palace.
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Thank you.
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You are, Casper.
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Thank you, my friend, for A's, for many things, including saving my life back in January
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and, yeah, the two major things you've done for me, you saved my life in January and
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you brought me on this wonderful beach, get away here in Delaware, yeah, in the, uh,
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the corporate state of Delaware, the first state, the first state, is that, was it the
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first state?
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Because D is early it, no, it was, it is the first state, you, you've obviously not seen
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license plates around here, I, I'm saying what is the pet, what is the, what is the
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etymology of it being the first state?
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Why is it the first state?
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Because I'm, I'm guessing, I don't think, I don't think, I think there's some qualification
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for license plates, because some, I would think, like North Carolina's first of flight.
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Yeah, so I mean, you can't just go throwing that around.
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Is it because some felon in a, in a pediatentiary somewhere came up with a bright idea that,
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Oh, when they were just brainstorming, in the prison, in the prison, they're like,
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hmm, so we're in Delaware, what are we, but he had, he had recently gotten the enviable
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job of being like the, uh, steward of the library or something, so he was reading up, he
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was getting book smarts, he was, to improve himself, he was wearing the green jumpsuit.
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That's right.
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I thought the green jumpsuit meant you sold pot on the inside, but I don't know.
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I thought, but it's been, it's been a long time since I've been on the inside, man.
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What I have seen in eyes.
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I'm not looking to go back, man.
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No one wants you to go back.
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I don't want to go back.
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Don't go back.
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I'm not going.
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It's not as simple as that.
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You just don't go.
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I got no plans to go back.
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You know, in fact, I think if you were to show up there and ask to be admitted, I hope
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they send me away.
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They, I don't think they would, I don't think they just admit there.
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So yeah, I hope they would send me away or shoot me in the face.
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So this is a podcast, if anyone has not figured this out yet, this is a podcast.
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I'm, I'm Rutiger.
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That's the part where Casper is supposed to say I'm Casper, but Casper was a podcast.
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He's trying to wrap his head around, we're trying to do here, so we're just sitting
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at the beach.
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We just arrived at the beach here.
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We've had some interesting times, we've had some interesting conversations and even beginning
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to approach the mountain of the scope that is what would we entitle a conversation that
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is all encompassing as ours can be.
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It's a tall order.
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Was that a sentence?
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I don't think I completed that sentence.
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I was thinking for the first one, I mean, you're right, we've dug a lot of holes and
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filled them with verbal diarrhea for, I don't know if it was your idea or my idea, it's
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the night that we definitely try, try a podcast out of your idea.
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I think we agreed earlier, early on to abandon my suggestion of picking a topic and researching
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a topic and then hitting record and favor, just hitting record, which is why at this point,
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100% of the people who have started this podcast have been stopped because without a single
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train of thought, you lose your interest quickly.
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Yes.
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All you hear are a couple of guys that sound like stoners who aren't, we're just sitting
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here listening to the rain, the rain.
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I was going to set the bar low and say most influential, five most influential video games.
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That was going to be my first suggestion, but I suspect that you're looking for something
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deeper.
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For our inaugural, however, I was not the one to first suggest to dig a hole and then go
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into it and then have concrete poured on top of us.
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So if you're going to go into, that sounds nice.
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If you're going to go into deep subjects, you're trying to pin that on me, I don't think
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that's the right route or vector, if you will.
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Well, deep subjects, that's definitely your thoughts.
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That's definitely your, your forte deep thoughts with Casper and Rettiger, I mean, I'm
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no, I'm no novice to podcasts.
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I've gone by a lot of monocurs, but Rettiger's who I am today.
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I know you and it's nothing else.
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The fact that your Iron Man arc reactor is blinking, you're still recording?
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Oh, you mean my nuclear generator, which powers my body?
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For the members of the podcasting audience who care about our production technique and
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that would be zero of these zero people listening.
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We're doing a what's called double ending, double ender recording style where Casper, double
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fisting, double fist insertion style, just double everything where each burger is, each
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recorder, each participant is recording on their own digital device close to their mouth.
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And in post production or what the hip podcast producer will simply refer to as post, we
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will, we will mix it together.
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So you're so hip, I am, I am, I know I'm pretty hip.
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You're pretty hip and on top of that, you're doing this all on spec.
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Oh, to stop recording, I'm doing, you mean I'm doing it on spec, you mean speculation
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as in we're doing this without any guarantee that people are going to listen to it?
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Welcome to the world of podcasting.
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I think this true of 100% of all podcasts or were you, did you mean something else by
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spec?
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I'm in something else in the industry when something is said to be written on spec.
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I mean, you're doing it without getting paid.
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It means you're writing it on the speculation that someone may be interested in.
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That's why I just said, in speculation.
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In picking up the project at a later time, when I wrote my, both the screenplay is I've
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written, I've written on spec and they will remain on spec because they're never going
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to be fucking blonde and boring here, but you know, you put it in a more morbid form.
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You can write things on spec and then have them get picked up.
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You can.
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You can, but not with that attitude.
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If you write.
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If you write.
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Yeah.
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I mean, I can.
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Which is why I started out the podcast with a professional sounding voice and you say,
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hey, can we tone it down a little bit?
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Can I sound like I'm really super tired and then can I talk about suicide and then the
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podcast just blazed off to a resounding start.
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I think we've set, we've met our introductory goals of setting the, the tone of help, help
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the listeners understand exactly who they're dealing with here.
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Have we been tuning the WNPMs as this is going on?
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What's that?
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The words per minute.
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You are a super hit.
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I don't think you're a hit enough to pick up on that one.
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So I'm using, I am not using a recording tool.
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I'm using just press record for iOS and that does not tell me words per minute.
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Well, what about our producer in the back, Gerald and Gerald's drunk right now?
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Oh, no, Gerald, you know, Gerald, Gerald, put that, yep, I see, I saw that, you know,
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we got, you know, we got it, we got it, we're going to take a short break.
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We got to sit him down.
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We're going to go, we got to talk to this guy.
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It's out of control.
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We're going to, we're going to get back and, this is just bananas, we're running off the
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rails.
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Oh, dear.
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This is Ruddiger.
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Are, are you going to sign out?
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No, I'm just saying we'll be right back, would you like, would you like to say we'll be
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right back?
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No, I'd like to say, listen to these messages or else we will not be right back.
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That's the deal.
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You listen to the messages, then we do more stuff.
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Okay.
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Enjoy.
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The Alien Brothers podcast with Casper and Ruddiger.
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Hey, welcome back.
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Welcome back, thanks for coming back.
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Thanks for, you tape.
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I'm recording.
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Oh, okay.
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Me too.
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Good.
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All right.
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Thanks for having faith.
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Okay.
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Yep.
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Okay.
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Gerald, good.
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There's no one back there.
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I'm just sorry to break the fourth wall there, but there's no one.
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Gerald doesn't like it when you talk about it like that.
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I don't like it when you talk about the figments of your imagination.
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Like they're real people.
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It scares me.
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Especially since I have to be alone at this beach house with you all weekend.
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I don't want to wake up in the middle of the night to see you in some Gerald Persona standing
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in my bedroom door.
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I don't like the, I don't like the first thought of having it right now.
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It's scary.
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First of all, I think we need to go back to standardization of our recording format.
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First and foremost, you're, you, you're going off the roads by picking it up.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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But what you didn't know, except for maybe by virtue of the fact that it sounded awesomer
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for a while as I had, I had picked up the recording device, but now it's back, said recording
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device by the way to help really bring you into the fold as a, a 256 gig iPhone 7 Plus
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with a big ass frigging crack running from the upper left corner down the side.
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I've never felt such shame.
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Anyway, would you have phone envy?
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I have, I would have complete phone envy of this phone if I wasn't shamed or the fact
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that it has a big ass crack in it.
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It's just the crack.
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Well, it's, it's the crack and what it represents and what it represents is that I'm currently
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jobless and broke and can't afford to fix it at the moment.
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All right.
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So it's really, it's more, it's more of a, of a meta, the crack, it's like, it's like
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the fall, it's just, it's exactly like the fall of the house of Usher.
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It's not just that the crack is there breaking the house apart.
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It's what it represents, which is the madness of Roderick Usher and the decline and the,
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the fracturing of the aristocracy class in 19th century England.
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And which video game was that?
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In which video game was, oh, video games, why, why, why do you bring up video games?
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What's the meaning?
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Why, why would I bring up such a thing?
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How are you saying that we're getting closer, are we getting maybe closer to the topic
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of this first episode or a topic, the first topic of the topic of our first segment?
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You started Go Deep and I didn't want to spoil the fun.
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I wasn't going to go deep.
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When, when, when, when was that?
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That was, I got this deep, what was that deep?
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Was that at the concrete stage or was that when we came back and then turned the crack
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on your phone into a representation of your broken life and soul?
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I didn't even get that far, but that's true.
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You actually did.
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It's also a representation.
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You did get that far.
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I was, I was content to end at the fall of the house of Usher and the aristocracy, but
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you, you had to bring it home, but you're right.
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What, what, what's the point of loading the bases if you don't bring it home?
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I, frankly, I just forget to bring it home sometimes.
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I'm just, I just get, I just get so enamored at the awesome things I'm saying that I, I totally
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forget the reason why I'm saying them, but that's, I mean, that's my cross to bear.
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That sounds good.
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That's my cross to bear.
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So for this first segment, you, you, you had a great idea.
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You had a great idea for a, a great idea for what, what, what a, what a Casper, what, what
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does Casper contribute, what, what did he do?
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You're contributing much, much grounding.
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You're keeping things tied, tied to the, to the dock, lest we just float away.
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So you said you had a great idea for some discussion about video games.
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Yeah.
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I did have an idea for a discussion about video games.
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I thought that we could discuss our top five favorite video games.
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Top five now, by the A, I think that's a great idea, B, because I, because I love video
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games.
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Thank you.
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I'm glad that we agree on such.
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I'm pretty sure I love them too much, but don't we all know, no, no, I don't think we
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all know, but I do some people don't appreciate video games.
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No, no, as people should be put in the whole, let's be careful, let's be careful in the
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whole.
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We need to expand our demo here.
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Okay.
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It's okay if you don't like video games.
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Yeah.
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Come on.
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We didn't think this through by not having a, a, a, a, a digital mechanism set up for
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our listeners to get in touch with us, like email, but don't worry, we'll take care of
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that in post.
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Yeah.
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Well, we've got our analog Gerald inside who was supposed to be handling that, but is
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now rummaging through the Lecker cabinet, as we speak.
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So video games, tough five video games, all time, your favorite can be any reason it's
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your favorite.
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All that matters is that it is your favorite.
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Number one, for you, so, or should we start at five, I can't, that's ordering them
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as to is more than I can handle at the moment, so we're just going to list five.
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Well, we might find when we, in the process of getting to five that we need to go further
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or lesser, I'm, I'm so glad I brought up this idea of video games so that we can.
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It's a very, so that we can try and keep focus.
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It's a very good idea.
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More focus on our focus.
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Here's what I'm going to, here's what I'm going to try to do.
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And then when I try to bring the focus to the focus, it then just did all of that.
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Have I told you you're doing a great job?
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I try.
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Have I told you, I love you.
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You've not told me that lately and I miss it.
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I'm sorry.
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I, when you saved me from myself back in January, I was telling you a lot and I need to get
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back to doing it.
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That January?
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Can you, can you believe it?
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It's been six months.
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Admittedly it was right at the end of January, but we're discussing, we're making reference
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to things that you don't know about, gentle listener, but you will learn about it in time.
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Suffice it to say for now, I would not be here if, uh, what's your name again, Jerry?
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Oh, Casper.
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Um, if Casper had, what am I, do you think I'm German or something?
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Call me a Jerry.
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You have, um, you have, you have Casper all the drunk, he's Irish, I don't know why.
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If Casper had not transubstantiated from his, his phantom form and to real form, to drag
|
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me to the hospital, but that's another topic.
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But for video games, I'm going to start with the first and I'm going in, in no particular
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order, but my first, just by virtue of, just play, Erasmus said it, that's just
|
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definitely.
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I'm going to do my, the first one I'm going to bring up, not in reference to, I'm going
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to do first my favorite sandbox game.
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Now, okay, so I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to throw it down by make it categorized.
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So what's a sandbox game for the listeners that don't know?
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If they don't know, they turn, if they hadn't turned this shit off by now, they, they turned
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it off as soon as they heard the phrase sandbox game.
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But a sandbox game in, and, and, and I do not know what a sandbox game.
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My definition, the definition I go by is that it's a, a game that does not necessarily
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follow a linear narrative, which, which, which, which form.
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Yeah.
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So, as you can do what you want, yeah, usually there are, there are narratives, frequently
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multiple intertwining narratives within most sandbox games.
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And I'll use an example, an example or two, where like the, the popular Grand Theft Auto
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series, the, where you're, you're basically saying open world and role playing games.
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It's, there's usually a fairly open world and you're playing the role.
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Usually of, of one or a handful of central protagonists that you might call antagonists,
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or, yeah, or both, or, and you know, there, frequently there is a main narrative.
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If you want to quote, unquote, beat the game, but how you go about achieving that narrative
|
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in sandbox games, it's usually allowed to be somewhat at your discretion.
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You can achieve the main goals by kind of being the bad guy and killing a lot of innocent
|
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people, or you can achieve the goals by, I'll use another popular sandbox game, Skyrim
|
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by Bethesda, or, well, there's Xenomax, if they're immediate, they're parent company,
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but by Bethesda's soft works, and in that you could be, as Dungeons and Dragons type stuff,
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you could be a, a warrior, or you could be a thief, or you could be an assassin, and
|
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okay, or a wizard, let's, yeah, and we can be anything.
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Let's reel it back in here.
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You can't be Santa Claus, I, as far as I can remember, you can't be a rabbi, a conversion,
|
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you can convert to Judaism, you can become a, you can convert to vampires.
|
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Reeling it back in, I thought I was going to talk about our favorite games, then we're
|
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going to talk about sandbox games, and then we discussed sandbox, and what the definition
|
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is, as all the different things you can be within a sandbox game, I was perfectly happy
|
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to not explain it, but, and I'm going to use sandbox, this is the first, because then
|
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there's going to be a second, which is going to be my, what's the game?
|
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You know, I'm going to have to, I'm just going to, I'm going to have to cheat and go for
|
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a game.
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I'm going to have a game, a fallout for, thank you.
|
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Which is like lame, but because it's current, it's not exactly brand spanking new, it came
|
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out in the last two years.
|
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But it's, I like, for anyone who doesn't know, which is 100% of the zero people listening.
|
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It's a, you play the central protagonist in a post-apocalyptic wasteland, the aesthetic
|
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of the game, pre-apocalypse, is sort of a 1950s, art deco, accepts.
|
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Similar to Bioshock in the kind of nuclear age representation of the nuclear family, and
|
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|
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this is what you do with this happens, and run to your nearest shelter, right?
|
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Yeah, I would agree, it's, it's got a lot of sort of family values, stuff being thrown
|
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at you, and very 50, undertones, racism, segregation, for undertones, yeah, like you
|
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know, it's more like overtones, yeah.
|
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Well, the, the, the racism stuff, maybe might be more Bioshock infinite, yeah, I'm sorry,
|
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I'm sorry, I, I'm sorry, I thought that for is what, yeah, but it's even, even in that
|
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there, there are a lot of, think of it like what would happen in the 50s if we miniaturized
|
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nuclear power, seems to be the, the big thing, so we had like nuclear power in our homes
|
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and stuff like that, and, and all the technology advances that come along with that.
|
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So anyway, there's a nuclear war, and then somehow you survive it in this thing called
|
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a vault, which is a fallout shelter, and you get out of it, and you have an emission,
|
||
|
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you have one or multiple or hundreds of missions to accomplish, I won't ruin it for
|
||
|
|
you, but yeah, yeah, I mean, you gotta figure out what's going on.
|
||
|
|
You've been in a fallout shelter, there's been a war, a lot's changed, yeah.
|
||
|
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And it's, it's part of a series, as you can probably imagine, since it's fallout four,
|
||
|
|
the series itself goes back over 15 years, I can't remember the name of the original
|
||
|
|
company that started it off, but it has great music, great aesthetic, I think the game
|
||
|
|
mechanics are really good, fantastic visuals, pretty sharp dialogue, and...
|
||
|
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I thought the user interface was a little lacking in general user friendliness.
|
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Tell me more, it was counterintuitive in many ways, so for example, all of the things
|
||
|
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you had to create, all of the... when you have to generate power, when you get your first
|
||
|
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say, base station, if you will, you have to then make power lines and produce those and
|
||
|
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connect those to these things, and it wasn't as intuitive as I would have liked, I would
|
||
|
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like some on screen instructions to walk me through that first one.
|
||
|
|
That was a little rough, and so are you saying that in the game, the first time you had
|
||
|
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to build a power generator, as it were, or the first thing you create is like a diesel generator?
|
||
|
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Well, it was very, I mean, it took a long time for me to even figure out that that's what I was
|
||
|
|
supposed to mean. You're saying you were confused by the idea that when you made the generator,
|
||
|
|
and you wanted to light a light bulb that you had to run a cord from the generator to the light bulb?
|
||
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No, no, I'm just like in real life.
|
||
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No, I'm saying that the menus and all of the buttons that I depress to get to the right
|
||
|
|
selection of what I wanted to build, is it... what is a power line? What category does that
|
||
|
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fall under? I had to figure out that first, like it, you know, and all these things,
|
||
|
|
if you've... I've talked with others that also have the same complaint about the user interface
|
||
|
|
within Fallout 4. I believe user interfaces within any RPG can always be improved, hence the
|
||
|
|
massive amounts of mods you have for Skyrim, and I'm sure there are for Fallout 4 as well,
|
||
|
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which could probably lessen these hurdles I had to climb, so to speak, to get there. But then,
|
||
|
|
after I got over those hurdles, then the game might kind of just stop playing it.
|
||
|
|
So you got as far as to turn on a light bulb, and that you reached the peak of your achievements
|
||
|
|
in Fallout 4. I mean, what else is there? I mean, you see the cartoon, right? The light bulb
|
||
|
|
comes on. That's it. I can understand what you're saying, you know, I mean...
|
||
|
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No, I guess it's not that the light bulb coming on was the... it's like, oh, I won the game,
|
||
|
|
I'm done. It was that after figuring out all of that, and then I say, oh, okay, so now I have to keep
|
||
|
|
going into these abandoned places and teaming up with these people and doing this and that,
|
||
|
|
and then I'm going to expand my bases and things. I was just like, yeah, I see where this is going.
|
||
|
|
I've had fun getting here, but I'm good getting off.
|
||
|
|
I hear you. And I hear you too regarding the complexity of the interface, I think...
|
||
|
|
It seemed a little clunky. I think by the time I was hooking up my first light bulb,
|
||
|
|
I had probably put over 70 or 80 hours of game time. So it might have...
|
||
|
|
You made it. You made it. I had the controls down a little bit.
|
||
|
|
I might have had the upper hand in that regard.
|
||
|
|
And when I spent three hours thinking...
|
||
|
|
Yeah. And who's to say whether three hours or 90 hours is the right...
|
||
|
|
amount of time to spend for something is relatively early a game mechanic as turning on a light bulb,
|
||
|
|
but it's not... We're not game theorists, okay. We're just gamers here. We're not...
|
||
|
|
We're not Dr. Nash with from a beautiful mind, right? We're not here talking about game theory.
|
||
|
|
All right. You know, I'm a generation Xer and I announce labels.
|
||
|
|
You're not a generation Xer. I'm sorry to tell you.
|
||
|
|
I'm not even... I'm not sure I'm a generation Xer and I'm 10 years old.
|
||
|
|
You know that you're not supposed to talk about a man's age like that.
|
||
|
|
You're like whatever is right before millennial or...
|
||
|
|
Yeah. What generation X?
|
||
|
|
There's something... There's something...
|
||
|
|
There's something younger than generation Xer.
|
||
|
|
It's called generation.
|
||
|
|
Generation what? X.
|
||
|
|
What's... Hence the Pepsi commercial when I was growing up called Generation Next to play
|
||
|
|
on the generation X because I was growing up during that generation. Hence generation.
|
||
|
|
I think HBO made a documentary series about the generation...
|
||
|
|
Oh, my favorite video game I thought you should never ask.
|
||
|
|
I think it's... I think the generation... I think you're... I think you're in generation kill.
|
||
|
|
I think that's the generation. Oh, thanks.
|
||
|
|
Do you watch that HBO show?
|
||
|
|
I've seen enough to thank you for that.
|
||
|
|
So... Okay.
|
||
|
|
Um, I'll take a break.
|
||
|
|
Not really.
|
||
|
|
Okay.
|
||
|
|
Do you?
|
||
|
|
No.
|
||
|
|
So I'll take the bait.
|
||
|
|
So what's your favorite sandbox game?
|
||
|
|
Casper?
|
||
|
|
Oh, you're limiting my favorite games.
|
||
|
|
You don't... I mean, you don't have to pick...
|
||
|
|
Just because I picked Sambo's.
|
||
|
|
And I didn't even get to my honorable mentions.
|
||
|
|
But that's fine.
|
||
|
|
I mean, that's fine.
|
||
|
|
I could let you go on and on and on about...
|
||
|
|
Yeah, all the different possibilities of what you could do within a sandbox game.
|
||
|
|
I mean, all we got could be entertaining.
|
||
|
|
Well, all we got to was light bulbs.
|
||
|
|
No, I mean, you're going on with lizards.
|
||
|
|
Okay. You could be a cat.
|
||
|
|
So...
|
||
|
|
You could be a...
|
||
|
|
I wish I would be a cat.
|
||
|
|
You...
|
||
|
|
I could be a monkey if in fall for...
|
||
|
|
Well, you could be a...
|
||
|
|
If fall for, if you could be a cat,
|
||
|
|
I would not be sitting here with you at this...
|
||
|
|
In this beautiful beach mansion.
|
||
|
|
I would...
|
||
|
|
I would pass your manhood when you put on the cat video immediately after giving you...
|
||
|
|
I would be at home in Arlington, Virginia, in my way too hot part of me.
|
||
|
|
Arlington's a big place.
|
||
|
|
I would, uh, in my 95 degree apartment playing Fallout 4 is my cat character.
|
||
|
|
If I could do that.
|
||
|
|
So, what are you...
|
||
|
|
For your favorite game, where you're going to stick with the sandbox genre,
|
||
|
|
you're going to go elsewhere.
|
||
|
|
You know, you put me on the spot.
|
||
|
|
You can do whatever you want.
|
||
|
|
And I'm kind of...
|
||
|
|
No, this is a tough question.
|
||
|
|
It's tough to make decisions and stand by them.
|
||
|
|
I've played so many games.
|
||
|
|
Yeah.
|
||
|
|
And...
|
||
|
|
I didn't even really get into what I like Fallout 4.
|
||
|
|
You cut me off, but that's okay.
|
||
|
|
I forgive you.
|
||
|
|
I think we...
|
||
|
|
I kind of...
|
||
|
|
We're talking about Fallout 4 anymore.
|
||
|
|
That's what you say.
|
||
|
|
Okay, so what's your...
|
||
|
|
I think...
|
||
|
|
What's your favorite Fallout?
|
||
|
|
What's your favorite...
|
||
|
|
What's your favorite...
|
||
|
|
Which Fallout's your favorite?
|
||
|
|
I'm just...
|
||
|
|
Is that the one that's going to happen when you close your eyes tonight?
|
||
|
|
When we come back from break.
|
||
|
|
Okay.
|
||
|
|
The apocalypse that happens.
|
||
|
|
Oh, is that it?
|
||
|
|
The Alien Brothers podcast with Casper and Rediger.
|
||
|
|
Welcome back.
|
||
|
|
Welcome back.
|
||
|
|
Wow.
|
||
|
|
Those were some great offers.
|
||
|
|
I gotta say.
|
||
|
|
And with those promo codes,
|
||
|
|
I mean, you're saving a heck of a lot of money.
|
||
|
|
We're big time.
|
||
|
|
We uh...
|
||
|
|
These deals are first EP.
|
||
|
|
This is our first episode.
|
||
|
|
Our first episode, we don't even have a name.
|
||
|
|
We do?
|
||
|
|
Wait, what?
|
||
|
|
Yeah.
|
||
|
|
Breaking news.
|
||
|
|
First episode.
|
||
|
|
The Alien Brothers podcast.
|
||
|
|
Okay.
|
||
|
|
You heard it.
|
||
|
|
You heard it the same time I did.
|
||
|
|
The Alien Brothers.
|
||
|
|
The Alien Brothers.
|
||
|
|
And when you download our podcast with the promo code Alien Brothers,
|
||
|
|
you can listen to the podcast.
|
||
|
|
And you can get the extended releases
|
||
|
|
of the uncut, raw, unedited, unfiltered,
|
||
|
|
unmitigated,
|
||
|
|
uncircumcised, podcast,
|
||
|
|
which that
|
||
|
|
that almost wasn't was.
|
||
|
|
Yeah.
|
||
|
|
If you know what I mean,
|
||
|
|
that unedited one might have a 100% similarity to the edited one for this pilot episode.
|
||
|
|
That would completely be awesome.
|
||
|
|
Not for the people that paid the extra money to get behind the paper.
|
||
|
|
We are getting
|
||
|
|
we have not posted the first step.
|
||
|
|
We haven't even gone to post.
|
||
|
|
We haven't even gone to post.
|
||
|
|
We haven't, we haven't, we haven't, we haven't finished.
|
||
|
|
We haven't cut and wrapped the tracking phase of the first one and we're already
|
||
|
|
talking about, you know what Eleanor Roosevelt said.
|
||
|
|
She said, behind every great man, there's great woman, that's me.
|
||
|
|
So fuck you.
|
||
|
|
She also said,
|
||
|
|
great minds talk about ideas,
|
||
|
|
average minds talk about events.
|
||
|
|
And you know what she said, little minds talk about?
|
||
|
|
Penises?
|
||
|
|
Maybe, maybe also, but more, more famous slide, little little minds talk about people.
|
||
|
|
So I think, I think she was saying,
|
||
|
|
I was conflating events with people because usually people in events are where,
|
||
|
|
when is there a event without a person?
|
||
|
|
That's, that's a good point.
|
||
|
|
I think, I see that I was just talking about an idea
|
||
|
|
hence for I am brilliant.
|
||
|
|
Did I just solve a logic puzzle?
|
||
|
|
I think she might have been saying like the idea is that American society is following
|
||
|
|
a part and the event might be the election of Donald Trump,
|
||
|
|
President Donald Trump, and the person might be Donald Trump.
|
||
|
|
You had to drop the G-bomb on our first episode.
|
||
|
|
I think people tune in to Alien Brothers to get the kind of ideas,
|
||
|
|
the kind of perspectives, kind of fresh thoughts that you don't get from your MSAM
|
||
|
|
corporate control, and they do, and I agree they do tune in for that, and it all, it's all,
|
||
|
|
that's all on your shoulders.
|
||
|
|
Because, are you getting off at the, are you getting out of the bus?
|
||
|
|
It's the mystery machine.
|
||
|
|
No, wait, I got to work up, I got to work up right there.
|
||
|
|
I got to work up to the third tier in Miss Ms. Roosevelt's
|
||
|
|
Stratta of Evol thinking, by the way, I don't really know that it was Eleanor Roosevelt.
|
||
|
|
It could have been Betty Ford, it probably was Betty Ford, and she was probably drunk when she said.
|
||
|
|
Or it could, it also could, it could have been Mary Todd Lincoln, and she might have had the
|
||
|
|
or it could have been Matthew McConaughey, and, uh,
|
||
|
|
Day of the Confused?
|
||
|
|
I was going to say a Lincoln commercial.
|
||
|
|
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
|
||
|
|
What was, how did I put that?
|
||
|
|
Do you believe me?
|
||
|
|
I didn't know
|
||
|
|
medium thinking people talk about ideas oh I know I'll say it's all right I'm
|
||
|
|
all right oh I know is when I drive this Lincoln I like it like the weight
|
||
|
|
feels like the leather on my on my butt up through my asses
|
||
|
|
chaps I don't know but because I liked it yeah so all right all right all right so
|
||
|
|
we left on the apocalyptic note so it was your turn the fifth fallout which I
|
||
|
|
predicted so now on your turn the the fallout is that I came up with a favorite
|
||
|
|
video game is there a category no no category this one is picked
|
||
|
|
specifically because of its time okay and where I was and the all the
|
||
|
|
circumstances around it you are at the Empire State Building at two in the
|
||
|
|
morning April 3rd 1977 what happened it was there something that you said it
|
||
|
|
was because you said it was because of the time and where you were right but
|
||
|
|
this is your favorite so what's the game was that that backdrop to the
|
||
|
|
Nintendo game with the monsters we just throw the apartments you mean
|
||
|
|
Donkey Kong no no no the one with the the green monster and the there's the
|
||
|
|
ape and the lizard and you crawled up the buildings you mean Donkey Kong
|
||
|
|
and you ate the people now it's different I know you're talking about
|
||
|
|
land page yes yes okay that's exactly what was that Empire State Building not to
|
||
|
|
my knowledge no but what okay let's let's hear it quake very good game important
|
||
|
|
game in gaming history I believe we might have covered a little bit of the
|
||
|
|
backdrop of why quake was such an important game already we were talking about
|
||
|
|
gaming I believe the other day Duke Newcomme and about the Doom engine three
|
||
|
|
realms those sorts of things does that ring about yeah we talked about how quake had
|
||
|
|
the 3d rendered environments but they took it to the next level in terms of
|
||
|
|
having 3d modeled adversaries as opposed to bit maps that were just
|
||
|
|
presented to you in various front on side on back on the shadows the jumping now
|
||
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not volumetric shadows mind you but like still the emulation of the first
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emulation of shadows and you had but that see here here's where we let's let
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let's back this up a little bit I want to let me lay the foundation for why this
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was the my favorite game yeah that's why that's what I was that's what I was
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making fun of with the time and place reference the first thing to know is
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that when you started playing it for the first time you were getting a blow job
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right okay that probably would have made better by other than that you just
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knew you start playing and you just got your fingers out of a Chinese finger
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I thought we agreed we were going to talk about that okay we'll just take it
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out host no we're not all right well we'll see well the reason I like quake
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was because I believe I got that game with a video card which was the 3d blaster
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creative labs 3d blaster fair-type rendition fair-type 2,200 it was one of the
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first 3d accelerators at the times when they were first coming out even in
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arcade games like some of the 3d fighting games at the time polygons and the
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amount of triangles per second or something was still the measure it was a
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very simple measurement we're now we count crazy amounts of random anyway
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we would need the myth-ghost musters guys to explain to us holographic
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car cars yeah with all the there's tons of features that weren't there but
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still it was the first game that was powered by something a massive amount of
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the game was powered by not DCV so you're talking about visual quality
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resolution frame rates that were ungodly just unseen you could even find
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that kind of quality in an arcade at that time so the frame rates were like
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12 frames a second now we're talking you know 50 60 and I remember this was in
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the like 95 1995 1996 era this one is when the is when the first quake engine came
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96 sounds alright I would have been does it ran on 90 windows 95 that's what I
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would have been 12 12 or 13 now who's giving too much information
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not me go on so so it came it you got the card the graphics card by this
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company that was known principally for sound cards right which in hindsight it
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makes you wonder what gave creative labs the right to frickin think they can
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make a graphics card but I guess then again it it was early on it was the
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wild west in terms of graphics cards things hadn't completely standardized on
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ATI and right in fact that was the only other company in the game they have
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released a very very underpowered graphics card it was based on power VR maybe
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architecture actually power VR still around today powers some of the
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phones we might be recording on right now but anyway that's it that's a
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one other story but there are there's it was a very small field the thing that
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it's not are you still recording that you just meshed your hands yes yes just
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looking out for the thing thanks I appreciate it buddy system to personal don't
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don't write don't go up faster than your air bubble unless you want to die
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because baby don't want the bands you know I have any real friends right here
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that's all I'm not playlist I made tonight we didn't I don't we never got
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it now but someone just kept wanting to jump ahead but that someone was driving
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so I appreciate it because that someone can drive right now because the man
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doesn't have his drivers license any who so you had this kick-ass video
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again this graphics card by a stone great it was great it was great it was
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unmatched at the time there was simply nothing else on the market for a whopping
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six months and then you had 3d effects come out with the due to a line of
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graphics cards now what they did was they took it to the next level by
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completely by having really cool boxes no that's what I remember now I was a
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Mac dude I wasn't concerned about graphics cards because I bought my graphics
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cards from Apple baby yeah because they were really at the forefront of gaming
|
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so I would have you know on that topic briefly interlude marathon
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integrated a number of the revolutionary features that Quake brought to PC 3d
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gaming before Quake but that's not important I'll just leave that as it is
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and marathon which is the precursor to Halo was a Mac only title for the event
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stop there did I I should get to mention all the reasons why I don't agree
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with you in marathon was made by bungee which made Halo I don't think I I
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I peed on your fallout raid I want being I was just I was just informing your
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argument so you could make it better listeners what you just heard was what we
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call this is rationalization we call it that in addiction recovery to rationalization
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oh I I was just going to call a show business but or it's really one in the
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same or I mean who are we kidding who are we kidding if you're not there you're on
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the way we what we had Prince we had Bowie we how many people have we lost but
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that's a good old different topic to the direct don't want to go down that
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road I want to get back to Quake yeah and I want to get back to great game why I
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it was great was because I really fun game I would put in rage against the
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machine CD when I played the game that's your first mistake no you know why I know
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exactly why because I know who did the soundtrack the Quake yes not just
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the sound effects to how I was not aware that's why when you had the nail gun
|
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and you picked up the nail gun box it had the nine of shnails logo on it yeah I
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do knows more about Quake than you do I don't know who didn't pick it as their favorite game
|
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anyway so that's why I enjoyed it was because I had I had the system that was
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better than an arcade it was it was better than anything for like six months
|
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for about six months yeah so what happened to a ti what sorry what happened
|
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labs or creative labs in general because they don't exist anymore they still
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exist actually they still make sound cards but they focus more on
|
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external USB-based sound cards especially once for people that go to work
|
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for all those gamers that used to buy you know sound blasters and the all 32
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which could be a whole another segment but they are still around and making sound
|
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blasters cool what what what what what value are they bringing to the market that's
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not handled by system on ship basic signal processing dedicated sound
|
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acceleration there's still a lot of features and it's for example if you want
|
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the new Dolby what is it called Atmos is the newest latest and greatest Dolby you
|
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know if you want for gaming yeah not for like pro audio production yeah yeah
|
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okay right if you want dedicated acceleration for gaming you would invest in a
|
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dedicated software so does that mean that when you use their stuff especially
|
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fast or they're like no no no but it's especially important for people who
|
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play games online competitively when they're using a headset and then you're
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talking about headsets then if they're streaming on top of that because that's
|
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the big fat where you actually have two computers one for streaming the
|
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thing that you're playing and that whole thing that sound card is kind of a
|
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necessary component as I understand it in the online gaming if you're into
|
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that whole world because you want your your voice when you're taunting people to
|
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sound like a chipmunk because you're accelerating the voice you said
|
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yeah yeah yeah that's why it's like it it's all so that we can all have
|
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thrown the 13 year old kid voice yeah that's why creative blocks exists and
|
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that's why you're so upset when you get fracked as they used to say fracked
|
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and you're like oh that kid from Japan beat me again how to New Zealand the
|
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kids New Zealand yeah I remember with the X the first Xbox and there was the
|
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first Xbox live yes I did the first Xbox live and you had the ability to
|
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bash your voice with different filters and one of them was the monster
|
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filter and it all it just made every big no matter what you said it just came
|
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out of it it was it was it was the worst thing or but so you okay quick so you're
|
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saying in the shooter genre one of the most important yes in a category yeah
|
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and one of and a favorite as well it's a it's a personal favorite but I
|
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believe that it has a strong argument for moving games forward at least on the
|
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PC platform PC about it so in your rings how many how many joysticks would you
|
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give it how many joysticks do I have you give it all that you had I know I don't
|
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know I mean what's the scale what's the you can do up to five joysticks I guess
|
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it may be gaming keyboards instead of joysticks yeah because you know that W.A.S.D.
|
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is important we're back in the day we used to just do ANZ and shift and control
|
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in all space but those are the doomed days when we didn't have to jump so you think
|
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you give it five five joysticks five gaming keyboards I mean for the at the time it
|
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was a complete five out of five hundred percent I think I don't think you could
|
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go if if we were to go and ask Google or Siri you know what were the ratings of the
|
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game at that time everybody gave eight pluses I mean it was it was the best game at that
|
||
|
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time so the next real engine to come out to challenge it after that was what on
|
||
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real right yeah yeah that had a lot that I believe the Quake engine did not that's a good one I
|
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don't know this specifically big game Quake 3D enemies professionally created music I remember
|
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|
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the dogs were especially terrified there's like mutant dogs yeah the mutant dogs just
|
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|
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of the way that they're built they're they're quite terrifying the way they were just sneak up on
|
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|
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you like so was that like were they aliens demons or alien demons it was the way there's doom
|
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|
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and Quake it was always a satanic monster hell on Mars yeah it was like it was on Mars how on Mars
|
||
|
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right it that was the premise how it makes so much it does make sense I mean because where else
|
||
|
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would help me what I heard there actually there's a alien civilization on one of the Saturn's moons
|
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they found a civilization on one of Saturn's moons oh I mean they're fine one and report about it
|
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but the X Canadian title said that one of the species one of our alien brothers out there
|
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|
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is this something that we're switching the topic to or should we save that for the next we should
|
||
|
|
definitely save that for the next I was just mentioning we don't want to talk about Mars we
|
||
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definitely don't want to blow people away all at once you know or we could be too much I don't
|
||
|
|
know I'm not anyone anyone who stuck with us this long in our inaugural episode of insert title here
|
||
|
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you mean the alien brothers the alien brothers yeah I'm a lot clearer when I said yeah that's
|
||
|
|
weird I'm a robot I am talking like a robot listen that nature out there you all catching this
|
||
|
|
it's the ocean the ocean's exploding it's the ocean of the ocean the ocean is they're firing artillery
|
||
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at us you know they they do say that more exposure to nature that has to increase your
|
||
|
|
mood overall and that's due to negative ions water it's why being near
|
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|
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fountains and waterfalls will improve your mood because water hitting water releases negative
|
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ions which has for a reason I don't understand but somebody might a positive effect on
|
||
|
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mood funny huh and that's a negative that makes a positive in this case kind of like a negative
|
||
|
|
times the negative makes a positive indeed and kind of like that old sailors saying there's no
|
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|
|
happier man than a drowning sailor all the negative all the negative ions yeah only if he's
|
||
|
|
drowning in the middle of a turbulent ocean I mean that's how to say I that's the
|
||
|
|
the extended version yeah okay so yeah I mean it's my turn yeah past the
|
||
|
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uh quick it is good I think that's about the time I maybe wasn't playing shooters so much until
|
||
|
|
halo came around but um quick is a good game I kind of got into Star Wars shooters for a while like
|
||
|
|
dark forces and uh and uh
|
||
|
|
and uh uh uh that was a lot later uh battle front yeah but but there were earlier incarnations uh
|
||
|
|
where you would use the they had earlier Star Wars games where you just fly the spaceship and it
|
||
|
|
was like more cinematic yeah um like they had x fighter right x-way x-way tie fighter right they
|
||
|
|
all lose games the LucasArts games yeah yeah in the greatest LucasArts LucasArts of all the
|
||
|
|
mystery of monkey island yes uh I don't have a personal connection to that one but I understand
|
||
|
|
that's why we were spotted you could learn a lot from a man like guy three brush
|
||
|
|
he's the character you play and is it the mystery of monkey island or return to monkey island I think
|
||
|
|
I think it's return return might actually have been the sequel I well I the one I hear about it
|
||
|
|
I believe is the return that's the one that that is the cult classic if you know if if my understanding
|
||
|
|
is correct um but you know what the original return to monkey island was uh the island of dr.
|
||
|
|
moron no king calm no go back go back the original king calm the original monkey island that kind of
|
||
|
|
oh king's quest I was thinking more of easer if you're leisure soup Larry okay
|
||
|
|
so hey I understood what you meant correctly in terms of games of that mechanic where it's
|
||
|
|
essentially a 2D game that's drawn in multiple layers where you can walk behind things and it's
|
||
|
|
funny that you say leisure shoot Larry because we both have trouble seeing suit leisure shoot Larry
|
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|
|
leisure shoot laser laser laser laser laser laser laser suit Larry
|
||
|
|
leisure suit Larry hilariously you must understand it's all divided Sierra the creator of king's quest
|
||
|
|
and it's all it's all it's all descended from the king's quest engine king's quest king's quest
|
||
|
|
two king's quest three space quest they do what seem a max two which one same a max yeah I think
|
||
|
|
they did same a max that are probably Lucas because Lucas took that whole thing improve the graphics
|
||
|
|
and improve the writing and just kind of ran with him yeah I'm not saying that so
|
||
|
|
grim fan dango was uh Lucas oh if i grim fan dango was Lucas then same a max was awesome yes
|
||
|
|
as well leisure leisure shoot yeah yeah they had a cat he they had they've milked to that thing
|
||
|
|
I had the first one on the amiga I had the first one on imagine how unfunnant was to play in black
|
||
|
|
and white on the mac okay it had that ridiculous age verification system in the beginning of it
|
||
|
|
mind him because you because I had an amiga amiga you were elite you were elite I was on
|
||
|
|
24 bit 24 bit graphics system when that was still a decade away mainstream at 16-bit audio on her
|
||
|
|
you're on like what a four bit maybe a speaker that went beep maybe had maybe had a speaker that
|
||
|
|
one beep yes yeah in fact it went beep it went boom when you turned it on I'll have you know that
|
||
|
|
the sound chip in my mac s e was capable of
|
||
|
|
I'm actually I'm full of shit I was I was about to say it could do 16 bit 44k but that's
|
||
|
|
not true because that's what CDs at the time 44.1 kilohertz now it could do 16 no now originally
|
||
|
|
could do 8 bit 8 bit 8 bit 22k is what it could do which all which is about as good as like the
|
||
|
|
original mp3s were that were like it really low bit rates I never even saw this like you remember
|
||
|
|
mp3 is originally had like variable bit rate to try to keep that that came I hope I came on later
|
||
|
|
anyway the original mp3 is that sound like utter shit the vbr vbr mp3s didn't come long
|
||
|
|
until after the worst mp3s that was doing new creation well kids we never promised that this was
|
||
|
|
that this was cosmos it's not a well-informed podcast it's well-informed enough
|
||
|
|
it's well-informed enough to know you get bonus points if you can if you get some name questions to
|
||
|
|
insert email here alien brothers you can get a bonus by naming the name of the the inventor of the
|
||
|
|
the algorithm that sits behind mp3s
|
||
|
|
oh it's not who I want to say it is it's franhofer yeah yeah yeah that that's great because
|
||
|
|
whenever you open the about and since because now this is instantly just become cosmos i'll also
|
||
|
|
point out the reason that they sample quote-unquote high fidelity audio at 44k is uh you know humans most
|
||
|
|
of us only can hear not me because my hearing's horrible but the typical human auditory range is like
|
||
|
|
40 hertz to 22 kilohertz so it's like why are you sampling it at 44 and the franhofer's theorem
|
||
|
|
is that if you sample and double the the rates that the audience can discern at then it's
|
||
|
|
effectively lossless there's no digitization i this is cosmos podcast i'm Neil deGrasse Tyson
|
||
|
|
and today's topic is the sound is the sound of black holes my favorite um
|
||
|
|
Atari 2600 game now that's not fair because you were you were not even a little baby
|
||
|
|
crawling around when the no i was so what was your i was a baby crawling around i actually i was
|
||
|
|
specifically a baby crawling around a two-year-old baby so what was your first counsel to
|
||
|
|
super deep Nintendo entertainment system no i saw in tary a tary 2600 i assume it was 26 all i
|
||
|
|
know is i got babysat when i was little at a friend of my mother's house and there was an older
|
||
|
|
child who will call berry uh the older child had a Atari and let me watch him play it and then
|
||
|
|
i think let me at least try to play it but i remember it had paperboy on it which was awesome
|
||
|
|
because i like paperboy when we would go to a diner when i was little and my mom would give me 25
|
||
|
|
cents to play paperboy and i was like two or three years old that game was hard man
|
||
|
|
but i like that actually i take that back paperboy may have not been on the Atari it wouldn't it
|
||
|
|
wouldn't have been on the 2600 it was it was on antenna yeah that game had way too much to
|
||
|
|
stuff going on and unless the Atari they could have been like the Atari 2600 version of it where the
|
||
|
|
you on the bike was just a square now and you were shooting smaller squares
|
||
|
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over the doors but then again they just would have called it yards revenge in that case this
|
||
|
|
this is like memories of a two-year-old so all i really remember was that controller and like
|
||
|
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the console and how like cool it was i didn't really i don't have a really good
|
||
|
|
regulation of the game going so so what was the first computer game Batman actually was baseball
|
||
|
|
i think Batman or baseball my game on a computer that was memorable oh actually no i'm sorry
|
||
|
|
not a console a computer computer like a whole dungeon and dragons which one
|
||
|
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i don't know the name of the game off the top of my head but i can describe it as it was the
|
||
|
|
first dungeons and dragons game it was a side-scroller it wasn't part of the leader dungeon
|
||
|
|
dragons role-playing things the side-scroller you'd get seven characters and you basically would
|
||
|
|
start and you'd have to finish the whole game in one sitting you couldn't save or anything you got
|
||
|
|
like the seven or eight characters like tannis i can't even remember the characters there's like gold
|
||
|
|
something you get like the dwarf or whether you know all the typical series of the gold characters
|
||
|
|
so and then you was racist you couldn't pick what races you had no no you had you had a set
|
||
|
|
and so it was that the word of the ring is great right and then you had the set from the books
|
||
|
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from the dungeon dragons dragonlands books in fact that was how i got my introduction to
|
||
|
|
the dragonlands series of books dragonland side that rings a bell now because those were based on
|
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|
|
the dungeon dragons i got a game came with a this huge block it was like you know it was a little
|
||
|
|
kid you see that i was in third grade and it's like a book it's like four hundred pages you know
|
||
|
|
just like you know i'm reading that thing you know but when it's connected to the computer game
|
||
|
|
you're playing and you're all into that computer game you're like maybe i'll read a little bit
|
||
|
|
so you read and then you get before you know it you're absolved into a fantasy world
|
||
|
|
under a mountain dwarves and of course all sorts of stuff and and then that also improved my
|
||
|
|
vocabulary to a large degree uh because reading all of those books i think i read every dragonlands book
|
||
|
|
it was and you could use the the phrase bore bulge sword on a daily basis and correct
|
||
|
|
sent in context you could you could use the phrase you could use the phrase gelatinous cube
|
||
|
|
appropriately um mom this is over this is as overcooked as a gelatinous cube this needs to go
|
||
|
|
down the disposal mom not even billcaste would like this to that this is the part this is the segment
|
||
|
|
after this break we'll we'll transition over to relentless assaults on celebrities who can't defend
|
||
|
|
themselves because he said putting
|
||
|
|
and and for the record i believe i believe i'm sorry let me let me let me clarify that
|
||
|
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i believe him when he says putty
|
||
|
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since it's getting late we'll skip our last
|
||
|
|
no we won't it to you it'll appear that we take a break but to us it won't see that we're really
|
||
|
|
giving you inside inside into what's going on the inside inside as it goes to the outside
|
||
|
|
and saving you the inside track and we'll be right back the alien brothers podcast with
|
||
|
|
caster and reddiger yeah yeah baby all right what's about after two a.m a inaugural episode of
|
||
|
|
of can't hang with your host two aliens alien brothers alien brothers
|
||
|
|
podcast from deep space the alien how about how about the alien broad cast bro
|
||
|
|
brood cast brood cast
|
||
|
|
did you have you seen that the alien brood cast have you seen that movie
|
||
|
|
bronies oh are you familiar with this is not this is not this is not new i'm going to stop you
|
||
|
|
right there this is not news people no no i'm not going down this is not this is not up to date
|
||
|
|
information this is the stuff podcasts we're talking about five years ago so all we're doing
|
||
|
|
all i'm doing is shaming myself mate you want to you want to wrap it up with each of us
|
||
|
|
describing a movie or something we've seen recently and extolling its virtues since what could
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we really say about Bill Cosby other than these are rapists i agree with that it hasn't wasn't
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that established in a court of law wasn't it established wasn't it established by him settling
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with his 40 x other accusers well it's established in the court of public opinion
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and i think that's the main only court in America that matters really yeah oh well i mean
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it still matters if even though the in the court of public opinion the Leonard Peltier should have
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been released i know bomb had the chance but uh the court of popular opinion doesn't always win
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as in many cases but uh yes he i i just like the court of popular opinion doesn't determine who
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becomes our president yeah now nor does it matter he becomes our president sadly that's not
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true i i don't even see the presidency or anything related to the presidency as news affecting
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uh news watching public it does suck to live in a country that looks more ridiculous than it usually does
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but you know we'll get over it i'm not we you're not getting over it now that kind of almost flies
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in the face of what you were just saying in terms of it not making much of a difference
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about the presidency about who is the president i can i can i can say that i don't think it makes a
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difference who is the president but then i can at the same time say i'm not okay with that
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and then i won't i don't like accept that i don't think that's that's an acceptable thing
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a good topic for the the third installment would be where are we at as a society to toilet and
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the most effective mechanisms for for population to troll uh divide and conquer macchiabelli and
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uh should we go into uh the essay i uh essay i chemtrails and extraterrestrials and the base on
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the other side of the moon and uh next time from jfk to nine eleven the rich man's trick
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the illuminati oh yeah it's a big one and what's that family whose name i can never
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Rothschild the Rothschilds yeah the Rothschilds more jp morgan um you've also got the bushes
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uh from proscott bush down to current bushes uh it's it all goes back to royal blood even that uh
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stupid guy who's stupid i that's disrespectful uh the weird guy who ended up in north korea
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like as hostage for doing something with a flag or whatever that heck went on there i don't
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mean Dennis robman no there was a a guy who was arrested in north korea and he had some medical
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and the guy they've just killed or he'd something happened they just got him back and he's like a
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brain brain he had a brain thing and they thought it was like botulism but then they're like wait
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maybe it's not we don't really know and then then we should probably know we probably should
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probably know this person's name because it's kind of important it it is but if only if only
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we had an ipad that wasn't in use sitting right in front of us so we could look it up on it
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i i believe there's only been one white person to be uh within the last few years to be arrested in
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korea heard doing something with a flag this isn't the economist people possibly catching
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this isn't the ontulism and then being returned to the u.s. in a uh quote unquote uh mental
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state of uh conscious fatted fatted consciousness or something or it was something like that and then
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he was dead and then they didn't do an autopsy on him to find out what had actually happened to
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but anyway the point was he also had a royal blood that was connected to the bushes the
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whole thing so you heard it here i had to hide for one don't know what i just heard but 36 chambers
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Wu Tang Wu Tang it's the Illuminati 36 you know anything about Pythagoras you know what i'm
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talking about we can go into Shakespeare's sonnets and i know that i know the pyramids i know that
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a squared plus b squared equals c squared not with that kind of attitude it doesn't i know that
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i know that i know that um that you're tired yeah and i worked hard today you're fading i got up
|
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got up went to a interview with a mega corporation oversaw their fascists their operations
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a fascist chemical gave it gave it my approval gave them my my DNA so that they have it on file
|
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and they can frame you through the trump next time
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on the other side it'll be an interesting twist in my life to be making 12 dollars in 25 cents
|
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an hour i was thinking back to i can be able to manage to what i can be able to manage it i have no
|
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fucking idea i'll i'll be able to manage it by getting another shot it that takes up the time
|
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i'm not working at that job that's pretty much it but that's another fun topic but
|
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i was i was going back through my revenue history i don't think i ever had a job paying 12-25
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when i was like in high school so this is interesting this is this is this is part of the
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what they say in the cult i mean um 12 step early sobriety where uh you know everything turns out
|
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the way it's everything turns out the way it's supposed to but we'll save we'll save that for
|
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other time as well i'll leave i'll leave with this let's see um what am i watching uh we talked
|
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about Tim and Eric which is not new Tim and Eric awesome show great job Tim high-decker
|
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Eric Wareheim comedic geniuses i'm glad you finally discovered these comedic geniuses it's been a
|
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shame that you're so behind yeah well i mean i'm not i'm not on the i'm not on the cutting edge
|
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there are like still on the honey badger team am i is that why i still listed on those emails
|
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when the lottery tickets get purchased no that's because you give money to John it's been a long time
|
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since i've done that i hope you're probably a good thing uh it's probably a good thing i don't think
|
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giving money to John ever it's good i mean that came off wrong so we agreed that
|
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netflix is the handmade's tales worth watching it's a uh a frightening uh i would say
|
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it's not quite it's some of its are parable-ish but some of its are kind of just an exaggerated
|
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historic modern unrolling historical fiction about what could happen if a
|
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coup took place in modern successfulness state a modern fundamentalist Christian appears to be
|
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what is kind of happening in that show and a coup happens and it's a return to fundamentalist
|
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values except i don't recall specifically in american fundamentalism where
|
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puritans forced women to be raped but then at least not white woman right good point
|
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but it's uh a great show not just because of the rape but uh great performances very thought provoking
|
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well as a bit moss hmm well as a bit moss yeah she's she's good also scientologist also
|
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scientologist also i thought that added to the intrigue of the whole series because she is more
|
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because she is a producer of that series and because the series is about a halt going back to
|
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traditionalist values and she is practicing scientologist now i'm not one to judge anyone
|
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why they're faith or spirituality or whatever you want to call it however i do find it
|
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interesting
|
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that she is a Scientologist and also produced this
|
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series okay i just i think it's interesting i'm not saying that
|
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i guess my for all i know my team level could be off the charts and that is the biggest problem
|
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i'm just i'm i'm wondering what the what you perceive is the the association okay so
|
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okay so here's here's my perception is because we so what do we what is what pop culture
|
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what what do we think of pop culturally as since you're not a Scientologist right
|
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uh i can either confirm nor deny that okay well i'm not so what i understand of it
|
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is pop culture combined with having listened to the audiobook of going clear and then watching the
|
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|
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HBO series on so that's all i know so it's it's a uh made up religion like all made up like all
|
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religions and um it's a tax exempt cult pyramid scheme uh well not to to find a cynical point to
|
||
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it since since most religions in this country have have have breaks um right but
|
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science and mythology uh infiltrated the irs in order to make that happen that they actually
|
||
|
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had an old operation on this which you should know from going clear we'll save our expose
|
||
|
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of Scientology which will go which will go into far more detailed and
|
||
|
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going clear will and it won't so it's a religion that is practiced by many
|
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|
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Dan mischievous is going to be on the next episode by the way views
|
||
|
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of of the alien brothers podcast
|
||
|
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Dan mischievous i know the head of Scientology yeah he's going to be here next week
|
||
|
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then i will make sure not to be here because the the mere idea of that guy frightens me much less the
|
||
|
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ranting reality oh once the cocaine and the prostitutes set in
|
||
|
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it's really not but why why would you ever want it to slow down
|
||
|
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slow down didn't you say once once the coke in the in the process the hookers
|
||
|
|
slow show out that he's a that he's chillers that way you know i'm saying once once
|
||
|
|
let's start to indulge in his kind of lifestyle and uh everything he's a little bit more tolerable
|
||
|
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it kind of breaches a homeostasis you know i mean that that's why i i'd neither confirm nor deny
|
||
|
|
being a Scientologist because did you say dermatologist Scientologist okay i might have said dermatologist
|
||
|
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we'll have to fix it we're not fixing
|
||
|
|
you know your skin looks a little uh bad uh a little little chat um no bad um sorry Dan yeah um yeah
|
||
|
|
we're gonna need to put some some aloe on on that bad boy um no i just think uh Scientology
|
||
|
|
well yeah religions cult status but so but anyway public opinion would say that Scientology's
|
||
|
|
of a cult within itself so then to make a production that shows the subjecting of women and people
|
||
|
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to certain roles um and sort of the acting as these roles um in a you know a post like real world
|
||
|
|
you know which is whoever they keep flashing back to when you have exactly that type of system
|
||
|
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within Scientology as i understand it there are roles if you're like you know being punished and
|
||
|
|
you know like you have the role of the one to take the lashes right the role of scraping the barnacles
|
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|
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off the off the off the off the off the off the off the the sea out of the sea is the the the
|
||
|
|
the Poseidon adventure the the uh is the what are they called the rainy McDowell's dead the sea
|
||
|
|
core the sea the sea the sea the sea yeah look at freaks yeah the sea core because we go into
|
||
|
|
international waters before we rape our that's the that's the place to do it you know we do it in it
|
||
|
|
if you're going to do it international waters that make the sea core sea core we're getting right
|
||
|
|
in there one can i one can i see one can i be uh officer to fly the sea core jet yeah well as soon
|
||
|
|
as soon as you better show up next week when damn miscarriage is going to be here as soon as you
|
||
|
|
because scraping the barnacles off the other side of the sea shanty if you if you can if you can
|
||
|
|
if you can hang in if if you can hang in there for for next week and and you let the cocaine
|
||
|
|
and the prostitute settle in we can you get along with them and you won't be scraping barnacles my
|
||
|
|
friend you will be going down in the sea core below deck if you know what i'm saying getting that
|
||
|
|
prime prime sea core fill in the blank you got it so here so here's the so there's there's a fork
|
||
|
|
in the road which do you take do you go below deck or do you scrape barnacles okay well
|
||
|
|
a that's a very compelling question i'm going below deck i'm going i'm going below deck i'm just
|
||
|
|
let you know going below deck however i just for the record no illegal activities below deck it would
|
||
|
|
be consensual and the person would be a woman of eight of age of over 13 of legal age being
|
||
|
|
whatever state or mean as well wait wait wait wait we're in a mean this we're in international
|
||
|
|
water yeah no no i'm saying no i'm saying the legal age not taking advantage of the legal age of
|
||
|
|
a mermaid and for that matter of merman is 13 merman right what what you've been on some
|
||
|
|
interesting boat rides my friend and to be honest i don't know if i want to go out so on the
|
||
|
|
own one is okay so it's what you're saying i just want to go below deck is what you're saying is
|
||
|
|
that with consensual like 18 18 let's say 18 so to be safe is what you're saying yeah that it's
|
||
|
|
at a minimum ironic or at a maximum hypocritical that Elizabeth Moss being a Scientologist and
|
||
|
|
Scientology having the reputation for being caught like feeding off the people taking their
|
||
|
|
and order to break it down into into simple words being restrictive and not too interested in
|
||
|
|
civil rights and suppressing it and suppressive any kind of and to send or anyone that's been in
|
||
|
|
the organization and then trust levens talk about what happened within it and that those and that
|
||
|
|
those allegations that become quite widespread from credible sources especially in the last five
|
||
|
|
years right you have the woman that now has a show based on on these experiences i thought she
|
||
|
|
was debunking King of Queens going clear though i thought she was coming out you know you're talking
|
||
|
|
about Leah remedy yes i thought she was coming out in favor of Scientology and you got that wrong
|
||
|
|
sir okay well like i said she left like i said this isn't cosmos right no where this is just a
|
||
|
|
conversation to alien brothers trying to figure things out and you're figuring out with us yes it's
|
||
|
|
an adventure so do you want to come below deck or do you want to scrape barnacles and that's decision
|
||
|
|
just think about it just think about it on that note hold on
|
||
|
|
Leah remedy just want to clear this up we can't wait was she the hot one who uh was on
|
||
|
|
L.A. she was on King of Queens is she the one that's married to harry hamlin
|
||
|
|
so i all i know is she was on king of queens should should that not be enough what what thing of
|
||
|
|
queens yeah king of queens the doofus who's on all the Adam Sandler movies now uh Evan James
|
||
|
|
yeah mall cop yeah he was the primary it was a sitcom he was the primary guy and
|
||
|
|
Leah remedy was the his wife king of queens it was a big show i've never seen this okay well is that
|
||
|
|
the one with the only reason i was at the moment Raymond he might stop i know Raymond was
|
||
|
|
right and that was its own show Ray Romano that was its own show yeah no the only reason i know
|
||
|
|
about this show to be just to be clear was it a spin off of everybody loves me no i'd not
|
||
|
|
that to my knowledge i had happened to when i used to go to a gym and work out it would be on the
|
||
|
|
television did they have Charles the rock and dutton okay so this guy okay so on the show
|
||
|
|
she plays the king of queens is why if who's a Scientologist on the show she does not play
|
||
|
|
a Scientologist Leah remedy the actresses a Scientologist she was and she's now caching in on the
|
||
|
|
not being on the public above board anti-scientology and to say caching that's a little harsh
|
||
|
|
i don't know is she does she have a TV show or not she does and does it say all profits from this
|
||
|
|
TV show or being donated to help survivors of Scientology does it say that i don't know we will
|
||
|
|
have to look into that and update our listeners as to if she is investing in providing shelter
|
||
|
|
and services to victims of seed-faring vessels or cabins out in the woods that are fenced in
|
||
|
|
and people have to escape from did you know tell me more oh yeah there's a guy out in some remote
|
||
|
|
place in West Virginia and it was in this fence that there was a fence in the area
|
||
|
|
apparently and then there's like a shag and the guy was locked in and somehow i don't know he got
|
||
|
|
found or escaped from it or the police somehow and they're like wow this guy was being held locked
|
||
|
|
in there against his will essentially kidnapping and the Scientologist were quick to come in
|
||
|
|
dismantle the whole place and see so the the inferences that he had been kidnapped by
|
||
|
|
Scientologist and being kept jailed in a shack in the woods yes like very remote location
|
||
|
|
um and yes as soon as it was discovered the thing came in and just tore it down but apparently
|
||
|
|
this kind of thing happens more than was the guy's name Giovanni Rybise?
|
||
|
|
yeah thanks a
|
||
|
|
well that's our podcast for tonight thanks for tuning into the Alien Brothers the Alien Brothers
|
||
|
|
this is the pilot episode one Casper signing off this is uh Rutiger signing off
|
||
|
|
i love you Casper love you Rutiger i'm i'm glad uh i'm glad to be alive today
|
||
|
|
i mean i don't really mean that i mean you're always so uplifting and i think that's what keeps
|
||
|
|
keeps our listeners coming back but it's i mean you're you know you know it's like a self-help book
|
||
|
|
just in audio for that really is what listening i think i think it really is so much more
|
||
|
|
it's you know you gotta you you gotta you gotta lay it straight it's just you can't lay it straight
|
||
|
|
why right i mean why lie yeah you know yeah there are good days and there are bad days
|
||
|
|
but when we have a day when we can discuss the merits of the things we like and go to bed with a
|
||
|
|
clean conscience and think about look at the bright side of making twelve dollars and 25 cents an hour
|
||
|
|
and say hey you know hey i'm my my recovery call tells me that's exactly what i should be doing
|
||
|
|
you know it's you can just look at it like a a mental exercise you know it's like hey i just need
|
||
|
|
to unravel the puzzle for why that's okay and uh you know if nothing else it gives you something
|
||
|
|
to do i think that you might meet a lot of interesting people
|
||
|
|
at your new job i think you're right because personally for me as i've gone up in the uh
|
||
|
|
corporate ladder if you will um i meet less and less interesting people um
|
||
|
|
um i when i worked at you know in high school after high school with kitchens uh i worked at radio
|
||
|
|
shack for a bit when i worked you know in different different sorts of jobs you meet a lot of
|
||
|
|
interesting people and you have a lot of interesting experiences um based on those jobs you're not
|
||
|
|
in pain a lot uh you know so you're not taking work too seriously and those people are also
|
||
|
|
looking to have to fall on outside of work so you get to kind of enjoy that a little bit or
|
||
|
|
you at least get to hear a different perspective people are usually a little bit more open to
|
||
|
|
you know air because it's more of a temper you know it's like you know whatever it's not like
|
||
|
|
ooh i've got to see you know people are more more open i've found i i can hear you i mean you'll
|
||
|
|
be standing outside with them after your shift they're like here you want some of this smoke smoke
|
||
|
|
smoke some of this doobie yeah right right let's smoke this doobie and you're like yes there's
|
||
|
|
some good doobie and like yeah it's like yeah i mean i don't mind making it's like this job sucks
|
||
|
|
but at least we got this doobie and we got each other we got this doobie we got each other
|
||
|
|
and we should feel pretty good because i mean it's not like we have college degrees or anything
|
||
|
|
and what more should we expect from ourselves and and life and why can you have a college degree
|
||
|
|
and also work in our restaurant and and smoke a doobie and it's these are these are great days
|
||
|
|
did you now watch american beauty what's that did did you miss the the movie american beauty
|
||
|
|
you have no you i completely serious note you don't know how many times
|
||
|
|
the luster burnum syndrome has crossed my mind and this is this is complete jumping into
|
||
|
|
non facetiousness here we're we're going into bonus time and this is going to be put up
|
||
|
|
bonus to me youtube this is the yeah the kick out yeah i mean i've gotten
|
||
|
|
i won't say it's a large number but i have gotten a number of the cliche sorry there's no way we
|
||
|
|
can hire this view for this because you're too qualified and like the first two times i heard it
|
||
|
|
i'm like you know i honestly thought that that was like a fictionalized thing that people say
|
||
|
|
i guess we know why there's so much foliage out in the front man sorry do we matter up but
|
||
|
|
it sounds like there's sprinklers there's what sprinklers think that's the ocean dude
|
||
|
|
you get ch ch ch ch ch ch ch ch ch ch ch those are sprinklers or maybe it's a giant c rally now
|
||
|
|
there's sprinklers down there i know they're in plan anyways sorry yeah i'm like okay i
|
||
|
|
I had no idea that there was such a thing
|
||
|
|
as being overqualified, but you know what,
|
||
|
|
it makes perfect sense, thanks.
|
||
|
|
So, but why, at that point, can't you just say,
|
||
|
|
yes, yes, I'm overqualified, but I'm also over awesome.
|
||
|
|
And, but I'm, I never, I never saw being
|
||
|
|
overqualified as an impediment.
|
||
|
|
I mean, if it's one thing, if you're overqualified
|
||
|
|
and you don't agree with the salary,
|
||
|
|
but if you're overqualified and it's like,
|
||
|
|
hey, I can't get anything better, I'd like this job,
|
||
|
|
please, what's the prop, what's the hold up
|
||
|
|
on the employer side?
|
||
|
|
I think I'd rather have somebody that's overqualified
|
||
|
|
than under.
|
||
|
|
I took, I'll leave it with this before signing off,
|
||
|
|
putting myself in the shoes of the time
|
||
|
|
and I've been in a hiring manager
|
||
|
|
or hiring influencer position.
|
||
|
|
I think it boils down to the thoughts of either A,
|
||
|
|
this person is clearly insane if they're going for this job.
|
||
|
|
Right, there's a reason that they're not aspiring.
|
||
|
|
Like, for example, they're a jailbird
|
||
|
|
who spent three months in every hab in St. Asylum
|
||
|
|
and is, you know, completely fucking unstable.
|
||
|
|
That would be insane.
|
||
|
|
That's crazy in here.
|
||
|
|
That's a great.
|
||
|
|
So I mean, I think that's like reasons like that
|
||
|
|
are probably what's going on.
|
||
|
|
But this is Rutiger and we're going to be back at you
|
||
|
|
here with MC Casper, the friendly ghost,
|
||
|
|
not the rapist from Larry Clark's kids,
|
||
|
|
which we can talk about.
|
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|
|
Oh, geez.
|
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|
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|
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|
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|
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|
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