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Episode: 3806
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Title: HPR3806: HPR Community News for February 2023
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Source: https://hub.hackerpublicradio.org/ccdn.php?filename=/eps/hpr3806/hpr3806.mp3
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Transcribed: 2025-10-25 05:45:08
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This is Hacker Public Radio Episode 3806 for Monday the 6th of March 2023.
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Today's show is entitled HPR Community News for February 2023.
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It is part of the series HPR Community News.
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It is hosted by HPR volunteers and is about 77 minutes long.
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It carries an explicit flag.
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The summary is, HPR volunteers talk about shows released and comments posted in February
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2023.
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Hi everybody, my name is Ken Fatton and you're listening to another episode of Hacker Public
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Radio.
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Joining me today is...
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Hi there, it's Dave Morris.
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Yes, Dave.
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Trying to take over my show.
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That chance that's been held.
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Yeah, welcome to the Dave Morris, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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Yeah.
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No, I must say you did a brilliant job last month.
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Okay.
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Two people new to this whole concert.
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This is HPR Community News, where the juniors put down their proverbial mobs of office
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and have a look around and go through all the shows and talk about the stuff that's
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been happening in the HPR Community News this month.
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I will want to say that there's going to be a lot of profanity in this show, so if you
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are a bit later on when we do the comments section, so at that point, be aware that that
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is something that you're going to need to take care of.
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You've got a few minutes, so if you're heading down the highway with the kids in the back
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of the car, now will be a time to turn it off or listen with headphones or something.
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So fair warnings on this one.
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Anyway, as is traditional Community News, we look at what HPR is.
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It's a podcast where every show is submitted by a volunteer host, very much like you.
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And while we have shows for the next week and a bit, we're still short of shows.
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So if you could send in a show, that would be great.
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If you've never recorded a show before, just press record on your mobile phone or other
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device and say hi, my name is Bla.
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This is the journey of how I got into tech and introduce yourself to the community.
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Go to the website, pick a free slot, fill in your email, you get a link, you fill out
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the form, it's fill in the list of explanatory.
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Most important thing is to upload your show and then we'll take care of the rest.
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So more people do that, the better.
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And then you can listen to next month's Community News, where we will then give you a list
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of shows that we intend we would like to hear more from you.
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It's a very simple day, isn't it?
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Oh yes, oh yes.
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And as is traditional, Dave, you introduce the new hosts.
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Yes, we have three, three new hosts this month, which is wonderful.
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We have Screw Tape, we have Starship Tocks, and we have David, Threin, Christianson.
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I think you met it for us, David.
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Indeed.
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I think maybe MacNalloo and a lot of people, a lot of people are faster.
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We were supposed to do a follow-up show on that, but life can't get in the way.
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But that's something we might just do at a later date.
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Yeah, I should be valid.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Hitch, you're not that worried about Russian shows out on time.
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So the first thing that we do is we go through the shows that were on last month.
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And the first one that was up was from Mike Ray, episode 3783, which I have to admit, Dave,
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I was a bit worried about when he posted that one.
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Why, why, particularly?
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Well, you know, was, okay, just to give people the background, what some people might
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then know is that Mike is visually impaired, and as a result, he uses text to speech tools
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to navigate our website.
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And I was, I was worried like that there was going to be whole chunks of the websites missing
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and Mike wouldn't know because, you know, the screen reader doesn't see it, so the screen
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reader doesn't see it, Mike doesn't hear it, but I think it was okay all in all.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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It's too bad.
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It's not perfect by any means, but I think we've between us managed to move the line
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further forward over the years, especially with some feedback from Mike and other vision
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impaired people.
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So, yeah, it don't be complacent, but I think we're not too badly off.
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Yeah, it didn't sound that horrendously bad.
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I mean, what it sounded like, and we'll, I personally consider that any accessibility
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bugs or a P1 bug, that's not to say to get fixed straight away, it's just at the top
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of the list when we have time to fix stuff.
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And yeah, so that's good.
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Mechia, Tronik says, actually, can you do the first comment because I responded and
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then I can respond to it?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Mechia Troniac says, apropos of question mark, HPR, that was my introduction, by the way.
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HPR, the site is awkward to download from now that I'm using a standalone MP3 player
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in my computer instead, and my computer instead of an Android podcasting app that automatically
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does it.
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I don't understand why things are made more tedious for PC users, but this is a degradation.
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It doesn't help that the podcast apps for PC are garbage.
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Pod friend doesn't even let you download.
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I should be a way to download more than one podcast at once without mastering some scripting
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language.
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So it stands as if I want to, is, if I want to download shows, I have to navigate to each
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individual page and then click to the MP3.
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Why not put an MP3 link on the main list so people can download the podcast without having
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to go to each individual page first?
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This is so tedious, especially after getting used to the ease of Android apps.
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Yeah, to which I replied podcast clients, Hi, Mechia Tronik, thanks for the feedback.
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Can you clarify which page you mean when you say main list?
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The main page is a link to the media files.
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If you want custom control, then I suggest you load the site's RSS feed into any of the
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money podcasting clients that are available.
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For example, G-Podder and they will allow you to load all some are non-depending on your
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wish, your wishes, I guess, is what I meant to say.
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Hi, Mechia Tronik replies, G-Podder, G-Podder, I tried once.
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The Discover New Podcast feature is completely broken.
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I can't there be a straightforward list of MP3s to download that I can save as and download
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from the list.
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I mean, in the two-week show list, I guess that's good, but it's in RSS format.
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Forcing people to use other and another app when all that's required as HTML seems
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regressive.
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I think RSS should probably be probably part of the HTML standard, but it's not so pain
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in the ass plug-in is required.
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Anyway, you can search and scroll for the MP3 links in the two-week feed, scrolling a
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little too much, then it shows the next five weeks as links.
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Why not have an MP3 of each show there?
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Full list doesn't even display in the PITA extension I'm using.
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Can't there be easy HTML links for MP3s by the 100 or so?
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I don't really care about the other formats.
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I mean, I like the show notes, but when I come here to download MP3s, I want to be able
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to download a bunch of the time and not have to spend a lot of time doing so.
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And he goes off to say, awkward website, sorry about how jacking in your comments might.
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I will listen to your podcast.
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I should clarify the homepage when you scroll down to, when you scroll down, it isn't identical
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to the two-week feed, which is a bit of scrolling to find the MP3s, but okay, since you're
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on the same page, then there's the nice table with a list of last month's shows, but no
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direct MP3 links.
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So if you are two weeks or more behind, you have to click on each show title, then go to
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that page, find the MP3 link to download the show.
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Then you have to go and repeat the process, what a waste of time.
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Can't there be a link to the show's MP3 next to the title on the table so that I don't
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have to keep going back and forth?
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Go to archive that are hoping that it would be better optimized, same, and this is where
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you're turned off your radio.
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Do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do, okay, presumably everybody is now okay,
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with listening to explicit content, same shit.
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You guess, you give you a picture of the audio waveform in the link page with no MP3
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or other of the MP3 link, then look at the stupid waveform, everything sucks.
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The hapless HTML user is click labor for no reason.
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It shouldn't be so punishing for people using HTML, this is a web.
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After all, and I find the podcast player for the PCP, PC insufferable, most of the good
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ones are for Android and don't even have a PC version.
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Now I trade all RSS links for a simple table design that had like a hundred episodes
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for page with a direct link to the MP3.
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If you choose, you can also read the show notes by clicking the title.
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All it would take is a little better adding a small letter links to the MP3's last month's
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show table on the homepage and extend the table for three months.
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I'm sure that room could be made, please.
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In another comment from mechatroniac, nm, never mind, I'm using the crippled g-pod
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for the RSS for now.
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I think my comments were at the website are valid, though.
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OK, and I go on to say fixed.
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I updated the site as requested.
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I also uploaded updates of the complete episode guide and hack a public radio index, but
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full HTML and created an index of the same change on a new site generation tool, which
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is issue 70 for Rome, which has also been fixed, I believe.
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And I would like to say something about this comment and about mechatronica, who we will
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be talking about later on very much.
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This is an example of why we kind of need to guide mechatronica in what he's saying.
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He has a valid issue, there's an improvement that can be made in the website.
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Yes, it took three long verbose pulls in order to get what he wanted to say across.
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And once I understood what it was that he wanted to say, it was a trivial matter.
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To implement it.
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So don't assume that we're not going to do something.
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So don't assume, don't be hostile about stuff.
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Just state the issue.
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This might be a good idea.
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I see that there are no links down underneath.
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It would be a very good idea if you could add those links.
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Blah.
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And we will do it.
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Is that a fair point, Dave?
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Absolutely.
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Yes, yes, yes.
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I don't really really come to understand what the problem was as we've been reading these
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comments, to be honest.
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So there was so much verbiage and bad feeling in there.
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First version.
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I don't understand.
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Yeah, it's first version.
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Absolutely, absolutely.
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I mean, we've all been there.
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But it doesn't achieve much to do it that way.
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Yeah.
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I'm getting a right.
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I'm the person who can fix the issue and I fix the issue.
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So I'm sitting here trying to decipher.
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He's frustrated at something.
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What is it?
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He's frustrated at so make it funny, make the electronic.
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Absolutely right.
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This stuff.
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Okay, there's an old trick that an old boss of mine used to do.
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She would write a response to the email, go, are you fucking nuts?
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You were absolutely stupid to do this because blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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Then she would go back and go, oh, actually, maybe they have a point on that and then rewrite
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the thing.
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Of course, hilarity and soup, which he accidentally left the people's names in and press send
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and then ran into the server room and turned off the power so that we can get routed
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up for those were the good old days.
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However, write it down and then go back, leave it for 24 hours, top tip.
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Leave it for 24 hours.
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It's been like this for 17 years, another night won't hurt it.
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Leave it for 24 hours and come back and read it with a fresh pair of eyes and then submit
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your book report.
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I think Tattoo mentioned this before when filing a book report, it says something along
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the lines that I'm paraphrasing and when paraphrasing because I've had the same thing
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myself where when filing a book report, during the process of filing the book report, I realize
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I haven't covered all the bases and when I do cover all the bases, I realize what it
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is.
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So, again, this is some some territorial advice that we offer here free as a service on
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HPR.
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But at the end of the day, Dave, we've got an improvement.
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It's a valid point because I know the history behind it because they were on different
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pages and they'll be merged and they'll have the feed down there and the code never copied
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over.
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So, yeah.
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That makes sense.
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It's good suggestion and it has been implemented.
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Yep.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Good outcome.
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But rather, rather tortuous plot, a path to get to it.
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Exactly.
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Okay.
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The next day, Celeste, if I've read enough correctly, leave so.
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Do factor authentication without a phone number, diving into privacy aware offline methods
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for generating one-time passwords.
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So services, improvement, do factor authentication and, yeah, and we have one comment on this.
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Who's turn is it?
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Uh, you, uh, I forgot.
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I'll do it.
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Okay.
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Go on.
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Zendflotr2 says, thank you for making this podcast.
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I found your version of two factor authentication interesting and would love us if more companies
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implemented comment sense rather than marketing.
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Hmm.
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Good point.
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Yep.
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Yep.
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It, um, I certainly learned something from this, this, uh, episode, the fact that keep
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parseccy could handle one time, one time passwords.
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Yeah.
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I didn't know that at all.
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So I haven't used it yet, but, uh, it, uh, it could be good to, to use in some context.
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Good show notes as well.
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If I miss it.
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Mm-hmm.
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Indeed.
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Uh, moving on, hacking, boobah, boobah, topic handler, parole, fail.
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This one's operator in the kitchen and when this one came in, I had no idea what he
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was on about.
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So I think I had a death link to, uh, the Wikipedia article for, okay, okay, tea.
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I, I knew of this.
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I've not tried it.
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I don't particularly want to.
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It's all sugar and I'm go better, so I don't, yeah, and, and I was brought up as a kid
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eating tapioca, which is in here, and, and, and hated it, detested it with, with great
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violence.
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Uh, it was a dessert that was quite popular in the 60s, 70s and stuff.
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I think, but, uh, oh, I hated it.
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So yeah, that, that's a little traction in this.
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And, yeah, but, you know, each to his own, it was, it was quite, quite interesting.
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I've seen, because I like watching Asian cooking things because I do moderate amount of Asian
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cooking myself.
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And, uh, I've seen things where they make the sort of dove for, for the, for these balls
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and have machine that sort of stamps them out and, and, uh, all this sort of stuff.
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Uh, it's very popular in career and, uh, Singapore and various places of Vietnam, I think,
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in Thailand and wherever, all over the place.
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So.
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And surprised us on what sugar there was in there.
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Absolutely.
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It's all really, really thick with brown sugar and stuff.
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So, yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Not, not healthy.
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There were no comments on that.
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As yes.
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Probably people were too busy, um, making it to comment.
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Chewing the way through, because the fair amount of chewing involved, I would imagine
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to, to, to eat these tapioca bowl things.
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Hmm.
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And then we had the community news where we left you high on drive, they've, sorry about
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that, that you couldn't use the mobile server.
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I, I had the application started, um, moonla on my phone.
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And then I closed it, you know, doing the all apps, but apparently it was still recording,
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which is rather scary.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It was, it was hard to, I mean, for my end, I couldn't tell what was going on except
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that I could hear everything that was going on the table, which, which is not, you know,
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presumably, you know, what you wanted, um, but, yeah, it, it, it, it drowned the channel
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completely.
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I couldn't, I thought I might have the ability to, to, uh, turn off your connection, but
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I don't have those privileges on, uh, on the mumble, I don't know who does, actually.
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We, uh, should probably ask, um, should probably get you, uh, those privileges on the,
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on the server.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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Anyway, we, we, we, we managed to find a plan B and that was fine.
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But yes, certainly Sandra Bidio.
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Wow.
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I mean, it was not, it was absolutely not the, uh, I printed off a thousand leaflets because
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I was thinking, yeah, okay.
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Well, you know, there were, there was only like five euros between, you know, 500 and
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a thousand.
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So to the thousand, we gave away a thousand leaflets.
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Wow.
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Wow.
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That's amazing.
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Yeah.
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And that, every one of them is a conversation with somebody.
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And there were loads of people who just didn't take leaflets.
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They would photograph it or, you know, take a picture with the phone and then move off.
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So there were, and it was quieter than your normal fast end.
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Unbelievable.
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Yeah.
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Wow.
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So they were estimating 8,000 attendees there on the, on the website, but, uh, yeah, maybe
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not as, maybe not as many in where you were.
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I don't know.
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Yeah.
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Well, it was just, you know, they, it was mobbed certain times, but yeah, you could feel
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that there was less people, there were less queues.
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Yeah, there was a good bacteria, but it was, it was easily the less than I, you know,
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the super long queues and they, you know, um, and the K building, sometimes when I was
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recording, yeah, going around recording a boots, you just couldn't get to the boots
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because there was four or five people deep, uh, and around they, around the, um, devium
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stands and stuff, it was, would be impossible to get to, but, uh, I think the move things
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around as well, uh, they tried moving the stands to various different places as well.
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So that, that kind of helped.
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Mm-hmm.
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Yep.
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Yep.
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Let's go.
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Um, we had to find a place to, right in the middle, I mean, now I know why.
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Yes.
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Yes.
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Oh, thank you.
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So they, uh, what they want us to do next year is, um, all the speakers on the main
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track before they, uh, when the main track speakers are announced, what they want to
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do is that we, as hacker public radio, will interview these people, you know, where you
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come from, wanted a standard set of questions and those audio, that audio would be published
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on HPR and then get released.
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So, um, I'm actually thinking it's a good idea, um, the only thing is, uh, we may need to
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spread the workload a little bit so that, um, you're recording team, exactly.
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So if clacky can do the Asian ones and, uh, uh, somebody, uh, tattoo can do the, uh,
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the, uh, Australian, New Zealand folks, and then we have people in, in the States doing
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the States ones, uh, you know, can do the European ones, and then there's all scheduling
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things.
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So it would be a big thing, but it would, it really does put us front and center, uh,
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literally front and center as, uh, a fostom is which, of course, people think it's a European
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conference, but I saw some statistics there that showed that 65% of the nationalities that
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were there were, you know, the, it was a breakdown based on nationalities of speakers,
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I think, or attendees, I'm not sure how they came up with it, but, uh, 65% are Americans.
|
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So it's, uh, it may be a European conference, but it's very international.
|
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And by, yeah, like Belgium, people from Belgium were way down the list, you know, it was,
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uh, people from the UK, people from, uh, from Germany, people from all over.
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So yeah, it's, uh, very international conference.
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Very good.
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Okay.
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So we go on to the next show, I guess.
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It's shocking crack, I like that, that's, that's, uh, never, never want you out.
|
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|
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Ron describes fixing wiring in the ceramic Christmas tree, and, uh, I, that just, that
|
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|
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just brought me back to, uh, pair of Christmas lights, my father had, oh my god, they, uh,
|
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you plugged them in, and the local power station would go, woo, yeah, yeah, yeah, I, I,
|
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I think I've experienced that, that type of thing.
|
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I think when I was a kid, my, uh, parents used to put actual candles on Christmas tree,
|
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I lit them once, and then went, oh, we're not doing that again, but, yeah, yeah, the,
|
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|
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the techniques for doing this sort of stuff were, uh, dangerous back in the day, but he got
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fixed and he was served more than it was, so that's, uh, yeah, yeah, he did a, did a great
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job.
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I like his pictures, by the way, the, the way that, that, that they're all laid out, uh,
|
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in figure layout, is that what that is?
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Yeah, that's quite good.
|
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It, it does look nice, it doesn't transfer to, um, uh, all gone, fortunately, they, they
|
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strip all that HTML out of it, so it looks, it looks nice on the HBR site.
|
||
|
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Good stuff, good stuff, uh, we're, we're going to have to implement the, uh, switch over
|
||
|
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the HBR site, I'm thinking it's only a matter of time, my guilt levels are, are rising
|
||
|
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very high, especially if we again, when you see rolls, uh, change, change log comes flooding
|
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in, we're going, oh, I still haven't put it off for the life.
|
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Okay, well, we need to do that.
|
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|
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Uh, yeah, we'll figure, figure out that, uh, no comments on that, obviously, uh, we'll
|
||
|
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have to waste for next Christmas, before that, uh, that happens, yeah, yeah, yeah.
|
||
|
|
So nice core tube torch, this is, I don't know, is this, uh, everybody in Scotland have
|
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|
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one of these?
|
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Everybody in this house, yeah, at the moment, which is just me, yeah, yeah, yeah, I did
|
||
|
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give one to, uh, my son's girlfriend, because she, she, uh, works late, um, and you just
|
||
|
|
have a little torch in your pocket or in your key ring, yeah, yeah, yeah, there were no
|
||
|
|
comments here, but I actually got a comment on Master Don, somebody saying, oh, that's
|
||
|
|
really good. I enjoyed your show. So that's the first time for me.
|
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|
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Yeah, should maybe, um, incorporate some of the Master Don's, Master Donny stuff at some
|
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|
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point. Yeah, yeah, if we can trace it or whatever. I think it was born launching the website
|
||
|
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Dave. I just know that it's not, it's going to be a mess. It's going to be that any time
|
||
|
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I do stuff like that, suddenly my own personal life bugs up and then the HBR site is broken
|
||
|
|
and, you know, there's a division of duty. Yes, yes, it's, uh, there's running HBR takes
|
||
|
|
fair bit of time. So, yeah, you'd have a clear run at these sorts of things. Oh, precious.
|
||
|
|
Anyway, the next day we had a new host screw tape with a common list portable games, including
|
||
|
|
ACL2 format logic to which Claudio says, Claudio, great first episode. Hey, fellow SDFR, which is the,
|
||
|
|
SDF, what does that sound for? So something like super dimension fortress. Ah, that's a
|
||
|
|
gesture. It's the free cell thing. Something like that. Yeah, yeah, it's a unique cluster. That's
|
||
|
|
free, free access. Anyway, Claudio continues. I enjoyed the episode, even if it was over my head
|
||
|
|
for the morning drive and traffic. Sounds great. And thanks for the shout outs. I'm glad I had a
|
||
|
|
hand in getting you to submit an episode. And I'm sure everyone is thankful to hear what you had
|
||
|
|
to say, looking forward to future episodes from you. Maybe we can guess, I bet, another fellow SDFR
|
||
|
|
to do for those who don't know, to record an episode on a similar list topic or to respond to
|
||
|
|
your episode. See what they did there. Claudio's a pro easy. Good, good. And we had a comment from
|
||
|
|
Zen flow to two nice show. He says, I finally decided to join master on today and sent
|
||
|
|
screw tape a message there. So I'm on the same server instances screw tape now. I also went through
|
||
|
|
Gofer resources. He's using I had the big idea that I would use and by use by Chrome Gofer extension
|
||
|
|
micro extension thing to view all of it ended up using links from my Linux beta on this
|
||
|
|
Chromebook because the Chrome Gofer extension fell flat on its face. Thanks Google. I'm going to
|
||
|
|
have to get a new computer with 32 gigs of RAM so I can run for GUITAR again and quit using these
|
||
|
|
Chromebooks. It's bad on my image. That is to say, if I had an image. And the next day we had two
|
||
|
|
two scone. Why can't I say that? Two son. Two son. Yeah, two son or a son. Two son. Part two.
|
||
|
|
We continue our month long stay at Benson, a town just south east of Tuscan. Tuscan. Tuscan.
|
||
|
|
Two son. Two son. Two son or son. Oh, Lord. Yeah, and we'll continue.
|
||
|
|
Stiffrano didn't run out of things to do and this was kind of nice because he had links to his
|
||
|
|
which are on flint. Yeah. Yes, yes. I find that it's fascinating. I've been to Arizona,
|
||
|
|
but not not not to go around it much. So yeah, it's a fascinating place. Hot and very dry.
|
||
|
|
Still amazing. Yeah, very good. I listened to this. I must confess after he posted this
|
||
|
|
because I couldn't wait for the second part. So that was that. So the following day, my hard
|
||
|
|
wear problem, which is keyboards. Oh, and yes, it is. Starship sucks. Doesn't need a keyboard
|
||
|
|
problem. And that problem is not having enough keyboards. It's a party. Yes.
|
||
|
|
Yes, I was fascinated by this. I've not come across anybody who has quite so many keyboards,
|
||
|
|
though my son is heading in that direction. And yes, some really interesting tales about the
|
||
|
|
good and the bad. And I'm going to listen again. I've made a note to myself to do it because there's
|
||
|
|
so many so much information there. He mentions the Ducky. Ducky keyboards, which I have here in front
|
||
|
|
of me with its LED cycling through the spectrum or something or other. So yeah, yeah. It's a lovely
|
||
|
|
keyboard. It was my Christmas present. Very good last year. Yeah, yeah. It's great. It's really
|
||
|
|
nice and solidly built and whatever. But yeah, I'd like to hear tons more about keyboards.
|
||
|
|
It's a fascinating subject for its own concern. Yeah, just two heads-ups that I did there.
|
||
|
|
One was I used the transcripts to get links to all the stuff. So if the links are not ideal,
|
||
|
|
there are sources I could get based on transcripts, which is excellent. Plus transcripts are working
|
||
|
|
out well. And I also applied noise reduction because it was quite difficult to listen to
|
||
|
|
the original audio. But the original audio is available on archive.org if you wanted to get
|
||
|
|
it from there. Cool. Yeah. Good show. Good first show. Very nice.
|
||
|
|
My come to this. I cannot remember. Right, I'll do it. And tray, keyboard addiction. This was a great
|
||
|
|
perspective on the world of keyboards and customizations. I too grew up with solid mechanical keyboards.
|
||
|
|
The first PC keyboard I purchased was the lighten tactile 101 key and I loved it. Part of me
|
||
|
|
wants to try to get something which will get me back to the feeling of those old keyboards.
|
||
|
|
However, I have a friend who has fallen into the addiction of constantly needing top grade
|
||
|
|
rebuilt customizer keyboard and I could see myself there easily too. Thanks again for sharing
|
||
|
|
great first episode and look forward to hearing more of your work.
|
||
|
|
Hey, good stuff. Yes, yes. I'm surprised that we weren't more keyboard addicts in
|
||
|
|
Photoshop. But yeah, they're too busy using their keyboards for a movie.
|
||
|
|
So the next day we had learning to read music part one. I was like to see that coming in Dave.
|
||
|
|
I mean, somebody was me showing. In which we learned to read music by going for a walk.
|
||
|
|
This bed absolutely no sense whatsoever, where I was listening to it at double the speed.
|
||
|
|
So I went back and listened to it and put it off the music sheet.
|
||
|
|
Yeah, I also struggled with it because I tend to list the podcast and I'm doing other things
|
||
|
|
and you need to concentrate a lot more than I did the first time around. Second time around is
|
||
|
|
better. It's going to need another listen to fully grasp what he's talking about. And to look at his
|
||
|
|
his information on his own site. I haven't looked at that yet, but yeah. No, great idea.
|
||
|
|
You need to see something. Yeah, great, great idea. I was taught to read music as a kid of about
|
||
|
|
10 or something, 9 or 10, but I don't remember hardly any of it now. Didn't get into music big time.
|
||
|
|
So you do trays? Yep. Trays comment is what fun. This took me back to my days in elementary
|
||
|
|
middle school learning several instruments and to high school and college choir. This was much fun
|
||
|
|
as I happened to listen to it while walking around the grocery store. I'm sure it was quite a sight.
|
||
|
|
I finally figured out why I was getting out of breath though. I listened to podcasts at 1.5
|
||
|
|
times speed. So sprinting around the grocery store. Thank you for recording this. I look forward
|
||
|
|
to the next parts. Excellent, excellent. And Jesu says quite possibly the most toe tapping
|
||
|
|
episode of HBO. Thank you. Although I don't tap my hands, didn't tap my hands, I certainly tap
|
||
|
|
my feet in time to the beat while you were typing while all the while typing away at work. So
|
||
|
|
very good, very good. Excellent. Like these. That's a great idea for a show. Yeah, really good.
|
||
|
|
And Zenflotor 2 came with God probably will use a Chromebook which now has a counterpoint show
|
||
|
|
called God will probably use a Chromebook which is episode 3754 by some guy in the internet, obviously.
|
||
|
|
And Zenflotor 2 says appraising the show, the squirrels of a thousand hulls, thank you.
|
||
|
|
Oh no, this is a counter to Zenflotor 2 shows. So this is some guy in the internet with a show
|
||
|
|
about God will probably use a Chromebook by some guy in the internet and I was very welcome.
|
||
|
|
It's confusing, eh? Yes, exactly. Thank you guys. Oh, God. He did a really good job of the
|
||
|
|
analysing the original show with with clippings and that sort of stuff which I think is a really
|
||
|
|
nice polite way of responding to the to the show and commenting on it. Well, some guy in the
|
||
|
|
business is a gentleman anyway. So, there you go. Absolutely. Yeah, yeah. And he did a wonderful
|
||
|
|
job of I did enjoy listening to his his response and his response to the response.
|
||
|
|
After Zenflotor's comment is a squirrel of a thousand hulls and the Scotty says you are welcome
|
||
|
|
kind squirrel. I had fun making the show. I'm hoping to create more show responses in the future.
|
||
|
|
Thank you for giving us all something to ponder. Excellent, excellent. Yeah. Yeah, a wonderful
|
||
|
|
pair of shows. Have we jumped into the next month or not? No, no, no, we're fine.
|
||
|
|
The next day Archers 72 had retro karaoke machine restored or the fix a cassette tip mechanism
|
||
|
|
for resale to a resale shop karaoke machine. There's a thing actually that I would like people to
|
||
|
|
stop doing is is using the first tense and start using that they go to third tense as a pair.
|
||
|
|
Because I copy and paste these so but but in Archers 72 instead of iFix the cassette
|
||
|
|
tape mechanism if you could but in Archers 72 fixes the tape mechanism. Not just the Archers 72
|
||
|
|
everybody does it. So if I'm trying to do that I'm trying to modify that now when I upload the
|
||
|
|
shows in the first place to go back and fix them because it makes the it makes the social media
|
||
|
|
stuff a lot easier. I can just paste that when I'm doing the response the following day to the HPR
|
||
|
|
things. No, fair enough, fair enough. Well, back to the show. Excellent. Again, as always,
|
||
|
|
more interesting stuff. Oh, the one he does does he keep the stuff for? Does he sell them all?
|
||
|
|
I don't think he said. Yeah, I was wondering that because it seemed like quite a fun
|
||
|
|
machine. I'm not sure you'd want to be singing karaoke in your house, would you? I don't know. I've
|
||
|
|
never lived. We've had the donda for parties for birthday parties. Yeah, yeah, it would be
|
||
|
|
good for for kids parties in the tub thing. Yeah, yeah. Well, you can do it. Oh, I don't know.
|
||
|
|
Thank you very much. Anyway, yes. That would be quite good. It should be a one of judgment. It should
|
||
|
|
be a plunger of judgment. It's a tiny plunger of judgment. Thank you. Anyway, yes. It was
|
||
|
|
fascinating. I did like the pictures of showing the steps involved and that sort of stuff.
|
||
|
|
I've taken apart cassette players and the bars, but not and I fixed them actually, but they weren't
|
||
|
|
very, very broken. Not like this one was, but yeah, yeah, excellent. I thought it was really good.
|
||
|
|
And he was capturing stuff off it using a USB DAC digital audio thingy.
|
||
|
|
And yeah, it's interested in that. I've had a few chats with him about it actually, but
|
||
|
|
under basted on to or not the most of the elements on the matrix. Yeah, element. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
|
||
|
|
so what? Yeah, can you do one of spoons, sir? Yeah, sure, sure. One of spoon says tape cassettes.
|
||
|
|
I've dismantled a few cassette plays in the past. The memories make me shudder, but I thought
|
||
|
|
pieces were neat. I've never repaired one. I've repaired a lot of chewed up cassette tapes,
|
||
|
|
though, albeit stretched all with missing sections. Cool. Yeah, I had a splicing thingy for tapes.
|
||
|
|
It wasn't for cassette tapes, so you could get those, put a bit of sticky tape and you cut it
|
||
|
|
at a 45 degree angle and stuff. Yeah, but I did have a splicer for a reel to reel tape.
|
||
|
|
awful thing to have to do, but you could make loops and make strange noises and things
|
||
|
|
would get record people's speaking and then play it back to a million times in a loop.
|
||
|
|
Yeah, I didn't do that. No, no, it wasn't. So the next day we had the very first
|
||
|
|
New Year's show episode one, and it's spring isn't even over here in the Northern
|
||
|
|
Hills for a day. What's going on? Yeah, I know. Everything's upside down this year.
|
||
|
|
Yeah, exactly. Dogs live all the cats, good. It was great to hear it actually this early on.
|
||
|
|
Huge, huge us to the team that made it happen. For some of our Indian fans and Hitchfield Lovecraft,
|
||
|
|
again, did a fantastic job, though, sure, not. Yep, yep. I think the transcripts may have helped,
|
||
|
|
actually. I would think so, yes, yes, yes, but still quite a massive undertaking.
|
||
|
|
They are fantastic. I've met a point of just going through each of the links and opening them up
|
||
|
|
because they've tracked down everything. It's excellent. It is an excellent resource.
|
||
|
|
Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Quite a fun show. I quite like the length, actually.
|
||
|
|
I left that particular show till late on in my listening for the month because
|
||
|
|
I was sort of slightly daunted. Yeah, the length. Would I have the time to listen to all of it?
|
||
|
|
But yes, I did, and an hour and 30 minutes or so is a good length, I think, for these.
|
||
|
|
So, yeah, really good. Some of them are slightly longer, but it's probably because there was no
|
||
|
|
natural place to cut it. But they are shorter than we've had in previous years, I think.
|
||
|
|
So the following day, Newhost David, come in with a quick taste program with dependent
|
||
|
|
types. And this was a show that McNullo managed to extract as foster. So, excellent.
|
||
|
|
Yeah, well done. I'm done. So, is it my turn? He is the head of the Haskell organisation.
|
||
|
|
Oh, by the way, let's just drop that into the chat here or why don't we? That should be an
|
||
|
|
interview of the salt. It's been mentioned on Macedon and elsewhere, I think.
|
||
|
|
But yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, excellent. Good to have him on board.
|
||
|
|
Whose turn is this on the old comments, Steve? I'll do this one, probably his mind.
|
||
|
|
McNullo says, concise and clear. Consize and clear, David, but then I expected no less,
|
||
|
|
given what you said to me at the HBR stand at Fozdem. I'll be trying out some of the languages
|
||
|
|
and reading the books you mentioned. Thank you for this show. Excellent. You know what we need,
|
||
|
|
Dave, is one of those, you know, chess, you know, speed chess timers things, you know,
|
||
|
|
when we're done the top comments, I can, I can click my hand and you can click yours.
|
||
|
|
And somebody connected up to two wee molasses and then syncing it over the internet,
|
||
|
|
that would be a good show for one of our hardware actors. Yes, yes, yes, yes, I can see that
|
||
|
|
possibility now, but I'm not going to be doing it just yet anyway. No, no, not for you, for somebody else,
|
||
|
|
somebody else listening, sure. But I knew what type of show to do. Gosh.
|
||
|
|
Oh, Dave, Dave, I weep. I weep. We never database of some directly followed like 50
|
||
|
|
different different topics that you want to do. I cannot believe people have
|
||
|
|
they tell me they don't have ideas for shows. I challenge you folks. Anybody out there to please
|
||
|
|
contact me if you think you don't have a topic for a show. Anywho,
|
||
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next day was a show by myself and Rwoon basically Rwoon, but I get credit for it because I press
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record. And it was about how to do change request. And I haven't actually done the pull request
|
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to fix the thing that I thought I was going to fix so I better have a look at that at some point.
|
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No, this was good. I sort of vaguely knew how to do this, but I'd never done it.
|
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You know, have you done this? Well, you've read the stuff that says, or if you want to do this to
|
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X, Y and Z, and you say, oh, yeah, got the general gist of it. But when you come to actually do it,
|
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then you're going, oh, I don't really understand it clearly. And this helps to fill in the gaps
|
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in my mind quite a lot. Yeah, it's good. And yeah, each get like service,
|
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you know, get home and get lab and get to do it slightly different. So yeah, the general steps
|
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apply. Okay, good. And there were comments. And the first one was from our good friend,
|
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Mechiaronic, who said, very cool. I didn't know how much I could help, but it looks like a
|
||
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firmware to learn more about Git and what a static site entails as opposed to whatever it is in
|
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the fact now. I'm having trouble finding where to register. I keep getting the badritch by gateway.
|
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If I go to our source, and this is the index page, and then the link to the CBI, if there's four
|
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or three for bitment, clicked. And the Git clone command run in Linux connects, but ask for password
|
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work. And I sign up to be a member. Now, in contrast to his other comments, this was an ideal
|
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comment. It gives exactly the steps he was doing. It avoids all naughty words that will purse the
|
||
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reader into a bad mood. And it gets gives you enough information to carry on. Yeah, yeah, it was
|
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a fine bug report, I would say, indeed. And I'll read Ron's response to that because
|
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it's the last comment today. It's comment number five. I'll do that one now.
|
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And he says, hey, Mechiaronic, if you go to an on-source at the top, there's a register button that
|
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takes you to a form. It's not an automated process. It may take a day or two to run a registration
|
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request to be processed. I'm looking into marrying, yes, on a public location, just haven't had
|
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time to do that. Yes. And I think actually at the time that he was doing it, that was the day we had
|
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there was a small outage for a period of time. So perhaps that was it as well.
|
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I think it was. Yes, you get a message about bad gateway from engine X because I saw it too and
|
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reported it to to Josh, and it was he was able to fix it quite quite rapidly, I think.
|
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So yeah, yeah, super. So you can do comment two then. So Norrist says,
|
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I'm three because I'm six. Second time to do your work, I think I'm going to nip off
|
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the other coffee. Okay, have fun. Norrist says, repo location. It looks like we killed repo.noronisthost.net.
|
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Well, yeah, or itself killed. I don't know. Can the HBR generator repo be moved to GitLab.com?
|
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Moving the repo would eliminate the need for an additional read only mirror and we could take
|
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advantage of GitLab's CICD. And the next comment, three is from Daris as well, automated build on GitLab.
|
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I was able to get GitLab CICD to build the HBR static site. First step was creating
|
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|
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a mirror of the HBR generator repo and it gives the Git commands to it, get clone, get remote add,
|
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|
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get push. And he says, then I created a GitLab CICD pipeline to check out the HBR site generator
|
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from the mirror, load the HBR daily MySQL dump into a MySQL database. Build site published to
|
||
|
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GitLab pages. The CI project is and he gives a link to GitLab for his build off the thing. And
|
||
|
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says the build is published at and it's another GitLab link which presumably I've not looked at this
|
||
|
|
actually, presumably contains the site actually in a built state. But yeah, cool, cool. Yeah, I have
|
||
|
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another chance to look as yet either, but it is on my list. I sure would be an ideal thing to do
|
||
|
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about that actually. You're going to do a comment for? Yep. Roons says, sweet, nice work,
|
||
|
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north. I was thinking about having a mirror in GitLab or my own GitT instance. But now you've
|
||
|
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done the heavy lifting smiley face. One minor modification to your site that comes on your GitLab
|
||
|
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pages will have the audio files and transcripts pointing to the correct spot on archive.org.
|
||
|
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Media-based URL is that. Yep, cool. Cool, the next day was the 22nd of February and it was
|
||
|
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laptop 2nd SSD MX Linux install by Mechia Tronic. And this is about doing hardware upgrades.
|
||
|
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First comment doesn't make sense. Oh, yes, first comment does make sense because Ken says the
|
||
|
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original summary was overcoming fucking UEFI and Windows to install a thingy as per policy.
|
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|
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And Mechia Tronic says, laugh out loud, I really wanted to hear her swear. Guess I will have to
|
||
|
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disguise the phonics if I want that to happen. I did get a kick out of reading the transcript.
|
||
|
|
It really did hold and hold and call feed install Linux. One clarification, my method of
|
||
|
|
geo-booting to hard drives in BIOS considers, considered of me simply switching the boot hard drive
|
||
|
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to the BIOS settings that can't be done with UEFI. Okay, and the next comment if?
|
||
|
|
The next comment is from Zen Flota 2, OBS Studio comment. It's entitled, did go back and read
|
||
|
|
the transcript of my Slackware 15 show and it seemed a bit unclear on the comment about OBS Studio.
|
||
|
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I had to compile that program along with others. Slackware 15 offers Kaden Live
|
||
|
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on the DB3, but not OBS Studio. Anyway, sorry for any misunderstanding.
|
||
|
|
And Mechia Tronic says, reply to Zen Flota 2, I see, I didn't like to compile on the links. I tried
|
||
|
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to compile OBS under Devon once and there was always one part that was out of date. So I went
|
||
|
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through all the steps only to find some dependency in order that was too old and had to be updated.
|
||
|
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But when it can't be updated for some reason, there was a frustrating waste of time.
|
||
|
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Never what want to do that again. I didn't even like having to run app to update all
|
||
|
|
that code on my computer from all sorts of different sources. That is constantly changing.
|
||
|
|
How could that could ever be secure? If you went back in time to the 90s and told
|
||
|
|
computer user what it's like now, they will think it's nightmarish.
|
||
|
|
And there's a comment from Luna Bittin-Jürnberg. Slackware Grub is entitled. Slackware is using
|
||
|
|
Lilo by default and you don't have to create a boot USB stick. Can just install Lilo to the
|
||
|
|
standard disk you install on or install Grub from Slack Package and configure that.
|
||
|
|
Okay, pretty good to know. And the next day we had Norris with my home router history,
|
||
|
|
which was one I was kind of listening to half tools and then I stopped and went back and
|
||
|
|
re-list into it because some of this stuff is quite interesting to me at this point. I would
|
||
|
|
kind of want to look out for a good gigabit ethernet routery hardware thing. Two or three gigabit
|
||
|
|
ethernet ports so I can do some network segmentation. So I'm going to have to have a look at some of these.
|
||
|
|
And Semphoto2 says, extremely entertaining. I could not stop my tail from lagging on this
|
||
|
|
program. It was, it's a squirrel, of course.
|
||
|
|
Fine. It was extremely interesting to listen to your program on your router using OpenBSD.
|
||
|
|
Could you give us an idea of the throughput on this device using OpenBSD. Try using
|
||
|
|
link removed, which is a speed test site. Okay, um, when to go?
|
||
|
|
Not smart. It's an OpenBSD live system. F-U-G-U-L-T-R. Yes, yes.
|
||
|
|
Yeah, Figuita. Figuita. He's done shows on on this in the past, which is a very strange name,
|
||
|
|
but I thought it was some sort of Japanese fish when I first heard it, but there you go.
|
||
|
|
So next comment, Windigo says custom routers or routers,
|
||
|
|
routers in this country. I've been looking into DIY OpenDOL-RT hardware and PC engines came up with
|
||
|
|
a, came up a couple of times. I'd never heard of them before and was happy to hear about your
|
||
|
|
experience with them and other devices. Cool. Bulk, I missed a bit. Thanks for the well timed episode,
|
||
|
|
he said. Perfect. Love it when that happens. Put that again. We're 17 years and all our episodes
|
||
|
|
are well timed, Dave. True, true, true. Yes. Nist quantum cryptography update, and this is from
|
||
|
|
2022, and there's probably no harm that the days is in there, but still good update at the time,
|
||
|
|
I'll listen to it. And Brian Inos Hio says, Moore's law, interesting episode, but Moore's law
|
||
|
|
has to do with transistor density, not systems getting better. Also, how, now, how Ahuka
|
||
|
|
know the interworkings of your Ukrainian upseq, I'm guessing he doesn't. Well, I could tell you how
|
||
|
|
he knows, but we're afraid, I'd have to edit it out. Yes, yes. Zenflow to two comments, very
|
||
|
|
interesting. I found this program very interesting. It was a goodie, he says. High praise indeed from
|
||
|
|
the squirrel. Yeah, it was good. I don't know quite where it's going to go, but yeah, but we don't
|
||
|
|
need to be too worried, I think, is Ahuka's message. Speaking of American mammals, I guess,
|
||
|
|
gophers, screwed it, had another excellent episode on using the gophers approach with gophers.
|
||
|
|
And you know what Dave, I tried this out, and I have to say I love the beauty of it, it's just so
|
||
|
|
simple, just go, you get the file, you read the file, that's it, no crap.
|
||
|
|
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I installed gophers over on universities, what was then a mainframe,
|
||
|
|
BMS cluster, before there was much in the way, where was a very, very new thing, and we weren't
|
||
|
|
sure we wanted to play with that, and to have foolishly we were. Yeah, it wasn't a general thing,
|
||
|
|
it was meant, it was the thing we used to put up information about the university, we were going
|
||
|
|
to try and do things like with the next bus times and stuff, we never quite managed to get the
|
||
|
|
information that we wanted, or have enough people to manage that stuff, but it was really nice,
|
||
|
|
we definitely had quite a lot of stuff that had been put there by the computing service department
|
||
|
|
I worked for, so you know get a lot of stuff on there from about where to go, who to see, about
|
||
|
|
stuff, how to get access to certain things and so on, it was a really nice way of making that
|
||
|
|
available, and the web stuff when that came, became available year or two later, looked really
|
||
|
|
crappy and comparison, because only web stuff was grim in the example, whereas gophers was nice,
|
||
|
|
but yeah, it's quite an interesting voyage back in time for me, yeah, I'm amazed that people
|
||
|
|
are enjoying it as much as they are, it's quite nice to see what, I mean we could, we could
|
||
|
|
fuss all of, I've been thinking about doing the Gemini protocol, because it seems to me,
|
||
|
|
you know, we have all this data on HPR, we could just dump it out to a text file, and boom,
|
||
|
|
you've got to go for a site with all that content, and equally a Gemini protocol, so I'd like to know
|
||
|
|
what, if somebody wants us to do that, that's, you know, that was the time, because we're doing
|
||
|
|
the static site, so it's another template essentially, so yeah, talk to us.
|
||
|
|
Yeah, yeah, static site and a go for site, it's going to have some similarities, you think,
|
||
|
|
terms, so overall structure, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we can, as we're generating the index.html,
|
||
|
|
we can generate a lot of whatever it is that we need for a, a go for site, and the subdirector
|
||
|
|
is all going to be there, so yeah, it's, it's just extra dis space, doesn't even need to be on the
|
||
|
|
main site, you could use the template thing that much and just, you know, gofor.hackerpublicradio.org,
|
||
|
|
yeah, there's anyone's interested, attack on the Squishmallow, and I had to go to Wikipedia
|
||
|
|
find out what a Squishmallow was, that makes sense, so. I'm out of that world now having
|
||
|
|
my children growing up, there's lots of strange toys, they're still looking around the
|
||
|
|
corners of this house, but not, we never got into that one. Yeah, yeah, fascinating.
|
||
|
|
That knows what I was listening, yeah, I see, I like the effect there, that's kind of cool. As I was,
|
||
|
|
you know, the thing about these shows from Ron is, you know, are indeed anybody who's doing a fix
|
||
|
|
as you go show, you don't actually know if they're going to fix it or not at the end.
|
||
|
|
This is not like moment of terror when you're there, God. Is it going to work? Is it going to work?
|
||
|
|
Yes, it works. Yeah, very good. I did enjoy his pictures of things like lots of little cups
|
||
|
|
with lids on in Squishmallow. Marked off Squishmallow. That is really nice, and also his
|
||
|
|
rather lovely, yeah, iFixit driver kit. I've got one of them, they're quite a number of different
|
||
|
|
types actually, but yeah, but this one looks really cool. You can get a, there's a tray you can get
|
||
|
|
from iFixit, which has got lots of little square wells stamped out of PVC or something.
|
||
|
|
That's what I use, and I'm doing this sort of stuff, but I think Ron's method might have
|
||
|
|
slight advantages in these cut lids. Yeah, yeah, yeah, not stuff over his, hopefully not going to roll
|
||
|
|
away and disappear under furniture. Well, I am always terrified when I do something like this,
|
||
|
|
isn't going to get cold away halfway through. And then it's just there, and you know,
|
||
|
|
accidentally you're picking up a towel or something with the washing down here, and then the whole
|
||
|
|
thing goes flying across the room. Yeah, yeah, yeah. People on YouTube, because they are on YouTube,
|
||
|
|
are filming these sorts of things. So I've seen people do really complicated tear downs and rebuilds
|
||
|
|
of all manner of stuff, and the comments say things like, how did you remember? And the comment
|
||
|
|
that the reply is, will I look at my video? Yeah, that's all where that screw came from.
|
||
|
|
So there's probably a moral there, if you set up a webcam or something to film yourself,
|
||
|
|
then it might be quite useful if you're ever doing anything as complex as this one seems.
|
||
|
|
And the next day we had chatbath, well, hello, we did hold on. The next day we had the next
|
||
|
|
month prize. Aha, there you go. See what you did there, Dave. So what else did we have? We had one
|
||
|
|
comment on a previous show, which was a Linux distro review, episode 3776 by Buchwer, and Brian
|
||
|
|
in Ohio had commented how to do it. This is how to do a distro episode, great episode in which
|
||
|
|
Buchwer replied. Thanks for the compliment. I appreciate it. I have since decided to use zero box
|
||
|
|
as a zone minder server. We'll see how that goes, and I'll record an update. Yes, I need to
|
||
|
|
purchase a couple of hard drives first, and maybe do a clean install, do a reinstall for a clean
|
||
|
|
start on that project. Recommend me a non-system D distribution for a newish laptop explicit.
|
||
|
|
I tried Slackware, Devon, MX Linux, and they're all broken in various deal breaking ways. I figured I
|
||
|
|
must need a rolling release, go to Artrix, their website looks like dog shit. Can't even log into
|
||
|
|
their form, it keeps giving errors. I wanted to sign up just to complain that they're a fucking
|
||
|
|
telegram, that they use fucking telegram. The release stuff on a fucking telegram channel,
|
||
|
|
which makes me question their sanity and confidence right away, are these fuckers on meth?
|
||
|
|
Telegram is fucking dog shit, as they make you sting up with a phone number. If you aren't a member
|
||
|
|
of the telegram, you can't see anything. Well, great fucking fast, they're fucktards.
|
||
|
|
Needless to say, I'm very proud of Artrix from the start, and I bet it's an absolute piece of
|
||
|
|
shit. Judging from their shit website and the fact that they're publishing on fucking telegram,
|
||
|
|
does anybody have any recommendations for a laptop distro without system D? Does Gen2 or BSD play
|
||
|
|
better with newer hardware? Do you want to do John Dole's results? Yes, we get the next
|
||
|
|
email is from John Doe Locksmith. Great name. Well, I think your way of starting out here,
|
||
|
|
rather off the wall, even offensive, have you tried antics? Yes, and Jesu responds saying
|
||
|
|
agreed childish and offensive. If someone's asking for help was speaking to me like that in public,
|
||
|
|
I would turn around and walk away. And there are two responses there, so yeah.
|
||
|
|
Well, is Jesu saying, marking something is explicit? No, no, it's not you. What's happening is
|
||
|
|
mechiotronic is not responding to everybody on the list. He's responding directly to the person
|
||
|
|
who sent this. So his response in private to Jesu was, each shit then coxaker, it says explicit,
|
||
|
|
then Jesu replies saying. So Jesu having received this comment says, marking something is explicit
|
||
|
|
is not a shield against being called out by using pejorative language. And he replies
|
||
|
|
back to the mail list, which is exactly what he should have done. And mechiotronic then responds
|
||
|
|
is saying personally directly again to Jesu, make sure you take all your cloth shot boosters to
|
||
|
|
dickhead to hitch. Jesu responds. I scheduled a boost to show appointment for after lunch.
|
||
|
|
So super. And Carl Chavez says, give Alpine a shot AlpineLinux.org. And in a completely unrelated
|
||
|
|
email, I say, hi all, there's a longstanding policy on HBR about moderation.
|
||
|
|
Saying we do not vet, edit moderation anyway, censor the audio submit, you submit. We trust you to do that.
|
||
|
|
As we asked a few times a foster, we were asked a few times a foster, as to how we get away without
|
||
|
|
moderating, I pointed out that the most important bit of that policy is namely that we trust you to do
|
||
|
|
that part. And that the community understands this responsibility. If we imagine for a moment HBR
|
||
|
|
being a grace theater, where each show has their own hall. In your hall, you will not be in moderators
|
||
|
|
and we will trust you not to say anything in there that will get us into trouble. If you are dealing
|
||
|
|
with some topics of a delicate nature, we make sure that you take reasonable steps to ensure people
|
||
|
|
do not accidentally stumble upon this. We do not want anyone to be in a situation where they're
|
||
|
|
exposed to an unsavory experience. We go on to say, please note, this relates only to the audio
|
||
|
|
you upload, the rest of the metadata branding, summaries, tags show, etc. are managed by the HBR
|
||
|
|
community and may be edited. To use our theater analogy from before, outside the hall, the janitors
|
||
|
|
ensure that the entire theater is kept welcoming to all. One of our contributors is having a
|
||
|
|
difficult time with this responsibility, not only within their shows, but also in their show notes,
|
||
|
|
in the comments, and now on the mailing list. I can understand that this is difficult for them,
|
||
|
|
but a lot of leniency has been given over the years. At a particular point, you have to accept
|
||
|
|
that even more help is required in showing them the best way to interact with the community.
|
||
|
|
Therefore, I wish to propose that until trust can be reestablished, all submissions by
|
||
|
|
Maggie Atronic, aka Anacore, to the mailing list will be approved by the janitors. We will
|
||
|
|
take up contact with him in cases where the content may cause offense, and we have had some
|
||
|
|
success with this approach before. This will not apply to anybody else. All our actions will, of course,
|
||
|
|
be overseen by the HBR auditors who are volunteer community members outside of the janitor and admin
|
||
|
|
team. Do you want me to read? Please do, yeah. Kyle Chevy has comment, he says, sounds good to me,
|
||
|
|
but I'm curious what effing non-system D, non-dog obscured it. Distro, he goes with, I've
|
||
|
|
been, I've become kind of an alpine fanboy, and I'd like to know if I have an unsavory convert.
|
||
|
|
Maybe he'll liven up the alpine wiki. And to which Anacore maciotronic responds, I might stick
|
||
|
|
with MX for a while, I use TLPUI to disable the PCI runtime power management on battery,
|
||
|
|
and currently being up to 42 minutes without USB dying, so may have stumbled into it. I keep
|
||
|
|
changing back when I try disabling USB suspend, so I try the PCIe option and the thing to be working.
|
||
|
|
Don't know what the PCIe stuff has to do with USB, but maybe it uses the same power rail.
|
||
|
|
I'm pretty sure I've tried alpine before. It did not like big bucks though, although you
|
||
|
|
probably changed it, I'll try it out again as live and see how it does with the hardware,
|
||
|
|
bitchute and the video. Just wondering why I responded.
|
||
|
|
Burnard M wrote, I shook my head about, did he send that to me? Did I just
|
||
|
|
post that to the public mailing list?
|
||
|
|
Yeah, I was trying to work out what that was.
|
||
|
|
Looks like you've seen it, did you?
|
||
|
|
Yeah, I sent it to the list. Okay, I shan't read that out, but I will read my reply.
|
||
|
|
Sorry about that. That was not my intention. The email itself fails.
|
||
|
|
JWPs, would you say that in front of granny tests? But for me, it was the all-feless response to
|
||
|
|
Jezra from which is the straw that broke the camel's back. Jezra handled it correctly and has been
|
||
|
|
around long enough to know that the community is behind him. Imagine that you had just joined the
|
||
|
|
mail list and the first post you got was that. Say you were brave enough to call him out and
|
||
|
|
got attacked like that on a private email. It's possible we would never even know.
|
||
|
|
The janitors have had to deal with a lot worse from this contripture in the form of trolling behavior,
|
||
|
|
the legal content and other cases of direct attacks to people who questions his behavior.
|
||
|
|
The excuse that he was not aware that he was replying to the person directly cuts no ice
|
||
|
|
with me anymore. So enough is enough. His behavior is not helping grow the community. He has put a lot
|
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of effort into making. We have put a lot of effort into making this welcome and place
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for people that might be scared to do their first show. Just this month, we expect new contributors
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because a lot of people have their own personal expense, but in the time and effort to resent
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representatives of Fuston. The annoying part is that Mickey Atronic, aka Anacore produces good shows
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and is a valuable member of the community. Frays differently, no more to have any problem with his
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question. So there's a reply from Windigo to that message, or may I read that?
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I agree with this approach as Windigo. This is an isolated case that seems intended to fall
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outside the very reasonable guidelines in place. Indeed, they seem to have a history of malicious
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intent that have been treated with tolerance and patience so far. I can appreciate the delicate
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balance that the janitors are attempting to maintain, preserving freedom for hosts while keeping
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the community welcoming. Thanks for all the hard work.
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Adjison said, I seem to have missed the issue, any specific issue in question.
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Oh, I did see it on call for, I'd say, approving his post has warranted enough,
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although it also releases the route I'd take if it were me. Yeah.
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And Paul Quirk comments, freedom of speech is one of the greatest freedoms of modern
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civilization, but it's based on the assumption that those who use it will be civilised and civil.
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And Brian says, who determines what civil, civilised and civil? Just delete mechatronics email if
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you don't want to read them. Don't show how Europa has succumbed to non-liberal thinking when
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people at free open source software developer meetings think moderation of speech is good and
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necessary. Brian and Ohio, keep up the tunes coming, Paul. Can you read Wendigo's comment there,
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Dave, please? Yep. I'm a US citizen, says, when Wendigo was standing on red-blooded American soil,
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eating flags for breakfast and defecating the constitution. Shitting the constitution there,
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so it's loud and so proud. Okay, not scared of it, but I prefer not to. My opinion isn't
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tainted by the continent I live on, surely. Personally, attacking HBR host is unacceptable and
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it's a great way to lose hosts. It was handled in a transparent way and the janitors showed
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a ton of restraint and fairness. Excellent. And the following was from Jesra. We, the members of
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the community, what kind of language we will accept in our community. If growing the community and
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getting more people involved and thus having more shows is a community goal, then it is of interest
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to the community to see that see to it that exclusionary language is not part of the community.
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If all are welcome, then all should feel welcome. And Brian in Ohio replies, sorry, didn't know
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someone was attacked. So there are a few other comments, JWP, Hi Ken and everyone else. So I'm a
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fan of free talk and very opinions. What I'm not a fan of is an appropriate content public. Yes,
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as Ken says, if you cannot say it to your grandma, you might not want to say it in a podcast.
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That love our platform is hacker public radio. There's nothing sexual in the title. So it might
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be not be appropriate to talk about sex topics based on our platform name, to talk about sex
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technology or medicine might be okay or even enjoyable. As we went through the last time,
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if you attack something in your podcast or via late laws in your podcast, no, that does not work
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either. In May, I'm going down to the basement. Raspberry Pi will work with a 1980s serial terminal
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and do things on the internet. There will be a few podcasts about this. Those podcasts will not
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have sexual or criminal acts or things your grandma might like to see them. Our community should
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strive for podcasts like this, take care and be safe. And DNT says, I think it would be ideal if
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people who act like a prick just told off repeatedly in public until they either adjust or leave
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on their own. But I understand this may not always work out and then desire to keep the environment
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friendly as legitimate, especially at this time because of the work that several people put
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into promoting HPR at FOSTA. I really appreciate the janitor's efforts to accommodate
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mechatroniac so that we can all enjoy his contributions. It shows a strong commitment to retaining
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every host and it seems like it would have been much easier for them to ask for support for a
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ban. If they're willing to moderate him so be it. It's worth mentioning too that the message has
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started all this was completely off topic for this mailing list. Might have made more sense on
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IRC or on the matrix channel, where maybe even would have been tolerated. Thanks DNT.
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And Ron says, thanks publicly accessible HPR repository for a HPR static site.
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Thanks to the interest shown by mechatroniac and Norrist to show HPR 3797 how to submit
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changes to HPR. I created a publicly accessible repository on GitLab. Actually, it was where I
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originally hosted, I just was there. The GitLab repository will be updated once a day from
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the one on the repo.anonstores.net. And the GitLab link is in the show notes. GitLab.com
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for a session on Dr. Horin for a session for your underscore generator.
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Cool, very good. So, yes. What else is the left to do Dave? Nothing, I think we're done.
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I think we're done as well, yes indeed. So tune in tomorrow for another exciting episode of Hacker.
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Public Radio!
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