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Episode: 1891
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Title: HPR1891: HPR Community News for October 2015
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Source: https://hub.hackerpublicradio.org/ccdn.php?filename=/eps/hpr1891/hpr1891.mp3
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Transcribed: 2025-10-18 10:52:49
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This is HBR Episode 1891 entitled HBR Community News for October 2015 and is part of the series
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HBR Community News. It is hosted by HBR volunteers and is about 44 minutes long. The summary is
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HBR Community News for October 2015. This episode of HBR is brought to you by
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an honesthost.com. Get 15% discount on all shared hosting with the offer code HBR15. That's
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Hi everybody. My name is Ken Fallon and you're listening to another episode of Hacker Public Radio.
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It's Halloween and the gremlins are out because I just have been trying to record a show
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on the mumble server and a hookers having connectivity issues and then we went and recorded with
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my daughter of nine years old who got 25 minutes in and I realized that I hadn't pressed the push
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to talk button. So now I'm winging it on my own as Dave Morris is off enjoying himself at
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odd camp. Actually he's working extremely hard. Big shout out to the guys there at
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the HBR table who I believe is Macnull and Chalcom and of course through is streaming it for us
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well on a webcam taking a picture every five minutes or so. So it looks like they're having a nice
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time. I'm really really really miss not being there. There's some amateur radio stuff I saw
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that I would have loved to have a look at. So there you go. But we will continue on. We will
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continue on. We will continue on. Hacker Public Radio. Yes what it is what it was. Hacker Public Radio
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is a community podcast network just for those of you who don't know. It means that we're all in this
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boat and we are all in this boat and if you want to record a podcast you can. In fact not only
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are you allowed to do it you're actually encouraged to do it and we're not allowed to say anymore
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that you're required to do it because you're not. It's CC by SA so there's no onus on anybody but it
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kind of makes logical sense if nobody starts contribution shows then yeah we don't have any shows
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basically as simple as that. So what we do here once a month we take some time out to discuss
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what's been going on in the community. Behind the scenes or maybe if you're not on mailing list or
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if you didn't catch all the shows and you think hey I'd like to go back and listen to that
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then that's what this show is all about. The first thing we do of course is we welcome our new host
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and thankfully this month that Dave is away and who is not here to help us out. I will have the
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traditional butchering of the names but fortunately I think this month it should be okay although
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my daughter gave it earlier on pronounced all these names differently than I would have done.
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So Klacky, Marlowe Kano, Just Me and the Love Bug all submitted a show for the first time
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and we welcome them all with wide open arms so we'll quickly just nip on through some of the
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talking about each of the shows that there were. And the first one up this month is a N My Bill
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who has a icon or a avatar of a monkey holding a gun which was very amusing for my new year old
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and his show was on IRSSI Connectbot and this is something that you can get from Evdroid which will
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allow you to connect to IRSSI which is a internet relay chat server around if you don't know we
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hang out on irc on freenode.net in the channel hashugcastplanet and there you can talk to people
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in the world you can even talk to me although I am eight hours out of sync with everybody else.
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So what I tend to do is at the end of the day I take the logs from the previous day then listen
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to them and then respond the following day so expect to 48 hour delay in replying. So
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good show my own comments about that would be I would be reluctant to do this because I would not
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like one of my keys unencrypted on my phone even if it is protected with a password I just do not
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give me a warm fuzzy feeling but depends on the depends on the context I guess. The following day
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the paranoid among us continue with the ahuka show from the privacy and security series and how
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to set up a open SSH server. I taking the same approach he has to his liberal office series
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have basically gone through this whole thing in small steps and basically showing you what to do
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and how to set up a SSH server. Lots of links in there very very useful and that brings us to
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the following day which was HBRO community news and last month I was out with a chronic backpan
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would be a word to describe it and thankfully John and Dave stood up to the plate and did the show
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for us and that's basically what HBRO is all about people from the community getting up and doing
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what needs to be done and I appreciate it that they did that for us and it was also interesting
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just to hear this show from the for the first time as having not participated and there was one
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other show that I was not before but I was listening on mumble just not participating um so it's
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it's actually yeah it's it's nice to hear that and there were very very very kind to everybody
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what kind of than I am more strict and the next show was Swift 110 with SimCity build it September
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2015 and um discussion about the this game and SimCity and what to do and how to how to go
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up buildings use. I'm not particularly into games to be honest I lost quite a bit of my life on
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on the Lemmings back in the day um but I do see the benefits of the kids are using Minecraft on the
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Raspberry Pi's too and there's a coding element in there and I do see it as an interesting way to
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get kids involved in coding so there you go but good show and there's more later on in the year
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hold on I should be doing the comments for these shows as I go along let's see if there are any
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comments you see if Dave isn't here or I look at him here I make a complete mess out of the whole
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thing which is which is unfortunate I must say but so there haven't made any comments on the shows
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we discussed so far I knew that all along I knew that all along then we had today with a tech
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uh tit radio uh 21 I thought I had better links uh 5150 saving us all from actually needing to
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do any work um I find it just easier to wait for a 51's uh links and just browse through them
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rather than parsing through news feeds myself then the next day was our 10 year anniversary and
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as look would happen have it on that day when it was released they uh there was actually 10 years
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so we we nails that more out of accident than uh by planning but it was really really awesome
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to talk to doobes and this was another weird one because I never have mumble um fall out of me
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like that and then just five minutes in the whole thing disconnected and then reconnected again
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you probably heard me coming in and out but again I was as I don't edit the shows you know um
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it was only later that I I realized I was able to sit and enjoy uh droops
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droops is one of those guys who got me into podcasting in the first place and I have the
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absolute most respect from and so much so that you know what he's doing now with those kids
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absolutely awesome and absolutely amazing and it was actually great to go back and hear uh
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what was going on because I was the other side of the the world when this whole thing was started
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I'm just contributing like anybody else so I had no involvement whatsoever in the in the initial
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setup and really all I've been doing since since then is just doing these shows once a month and
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replying to email posting the ad show now and again so uh droops um post a day silly comment
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and then we had Jay while public school supervisor hearing about all your classes makes me a
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little envious to be honest uh Dave Morris said I love this interview really enjoyed it
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congratulations thanks Ken no need to thank me it was uh droops who took the time out it was a
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droops who took the time out to start this you know let's not forget it's easy to to keep the momentum
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going once it's been going for so long the these guys set the whole thing up in the first place
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and notably whether it was going to take off or not so awesome then it was great to get an
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understanding about more history of HPR HPR and given further insight into who the founders were
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and their motive what the motivations was and droops sounds like a hell of a teacher couldn't
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agree with you more and just to that vein I've been really really really really listening to this
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episode on the train and I've been making note of the the people droops mentioned in that and
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it's definitely uh my intention to go back and interview a lot more of these so we can get our actual
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history going on in there and then uh have this in our above page again awesome awesome stuff
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okay uh following day we had text formatting options are explored and this is the Libro Office
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series and this month they are this one they were doing text styles and text formatting toolbar
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and this clarified a lot of stuff for me and again look in the show notes with a link to
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a hooker's own website where you've got screenshots on this so very good stuff there has always
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very professional you know it's embarrassing that we have shows of this quality on here and we're
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just passing them off every month has been yeah this is what we expect from a hooker who you know
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if he submits anything or lesser quality than this we will all be we will all be annoyed
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anyway Taraki did a show 15 motivated by the 15 x 15 excuses not to record a show for
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HPR done by nightwise and he had a link in there discussed the my probe log as well manifest
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which is a a project that he would like to get started basically looking for a using HPR as a
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motivation to get back into uh developing that and i really hope he does because he submitted two
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shows so seems to be on a roll here as the following day was recording a HPR episode on the fly
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and the android phone um so they um he installed you record from android and um basically gives a
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review of of the software so another option there if you have got an android phone no excuse to
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not use that i actually use you record as well i found it very handy for taking minutes of meetings
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and then you're just hands free for the rest be easy submitted to show the following day based
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on what's in your bag and um usb encryption usb stick and a mouse and uh clips share europe buds which
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i'd never heard of before 60 uh 80 dollars shipping and these are uh always always of interest to me
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um and has very very handy tool in there to just go back to my previous comment about uh securing
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your SSH keys on your android phone there is f allocate-l3gmyimage.img which will mount an encrypted
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looks partitions so pretty cool pretty cool stuff the following day we had hacking a belt to make
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it fit and uh this is this is a cool uh cool episode kind of makes sense the only uh thing is i
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would probably be hacking it to add on more than uh hacking it to make it smaller but uh i i'm always
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interested in um in these sort of things and this um hardware hacks or fixing stuff that's broken
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it really really um gives me a sense of achievement um in the previous episode that was or in the
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previous attempt to record this that wasn't recorded my daughter was describing how um the last
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thing we fixed were was that these earphones where she was able to fix um one of them stopped working
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where the coil had uh fallen off so she was able she unscrewed it put the coil back put it down
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with the cello tape and was able to fix the headsets um the one that i'm using right now so
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absolutely love uh this sort of thing and now that john has meted an official thing that hackers
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are interested in then uh you never know or might actually do some more shows about that sort of
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thing mostly we're very light on the comments this month um as well so uh lonely been three so far
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the Arduino clatu was back with a Arduino bluetooth how-to and you will get the commenters out
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for sure for sure and this is uh continuing what will be soon if it's not already a series on
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Arduino um and this was the super uh he's not about super basic uh Arduino controller um or
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controlling arduino's and getting the talk of her boob bluetooth and migray um says really good show
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clatu really enjoyed anything about Arduino in general fitting with the tronics currently i'm
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mucking about with an earth transmitter receiver modules that have and have considered using
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Zigbee so this show was of of interest look forward to mic doing some shows on that
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clarky years on the roll my road to linux and installing watchtower on the amiga as he reviews
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22 years of linux usage and described basically everything are basically the road to linux and it
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was pretty interesting to see all that stuff 22 years that's all that's allowed speaking with
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somebody else who uh was uh talking about stuff to computer away from laptop the mobile
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computing and stuff was chasar and using an Nvidia shield tablet with wifi with a case with a
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bluetooth mouse with a keyboard with a power hub and then free and open source android apps so
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there's kind of few here that i had known about quite a few and didn't know about one or two that
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i installed after the fact and a few that i probably will come across if i ever need to the only
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thing about this was i was just wondering why not use a netbook or something where just everything's
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connected and you don't have all these little bits that would be very fugly for me on the train
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i think for my personal use case but yeah maybe could come on test of why he didn't you know
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what the advantages of this over laptop don't know if i was that was particularly clear
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nightwise saying don't get locked in and to be honest when i heard this i was going to think it was
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a a discussion about not getting locked into a proprietary software but actually it was about
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not getting locked into your your beliefs just uh go with the flow and uh or you know use the
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best tool for the job and i will say i don't agree with them uh because he's well able to take
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the fact that people don't agree with him and i don't agree with him on the point of you that if
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you don't use the software then if you don't use the software then it won't if you don't use open
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source software you can't report the bugs you can't report the bugs they can't be improved that's
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basically when it comes down to it so yes absolutely correct uh even the hookah said that things
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like impress are not as good as PowerPoint but there will never be as good as PowerPoint if people
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don't get involved and use them and improve them there you go that's my feeling but yes he does
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have a point use the best tool for the job so i uh there is a certain thing called morals and ethics
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and your personal beliefs do come into it so it's not i don't think it's just black and white
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as all that so but a good show nonetheless hopefully this will inflame them so much that you will
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come back and do more shows for us more back scripting tips while apparently Dave is a genius
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of many many many things and i have as soon as i heard this show i went and updated many of my scripts
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particularly the ones related to dates and log files they that is just saved saved my life so much
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so this is going into my most have series as always and this this got the commenters out of the
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out of the woodwork first comment was by frank thank you Dave very nice piece of work i've been
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trying to understand regular expressions i guess because i like puzzles in addition to giving
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me a better understanding of bash the examples you gave show similarity with some regular
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expressions syntax which in turn gives some context regular expressions so that it does not seem
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to be quite so far in a language Dave replied regular expressions subject is a complex one i've been
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wondering whether i should try and pass on what i know about it uh Dave this man is the hpr admin
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and still doesn't know that should i record a show for hpr by default means yes anyway
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Dave yes there is nobody on the planet who works with linux does not want to understand regular
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regular expressions better anyway strictly strictly this phrase expansion topic is in an area
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of using patterns to match filenames confusingly this is similar but not the same as regular
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expressions in the later episodes in this not series i want to talk more about file name matching
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then look at regular expressions in the context bash really the regular expression subjects could
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should yes should could be a standalone and should look at what's available in bash grip
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said all et cetera use paro regular expressions the most but a hesitate to go too deep there because
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they are mind blowing yes they are yes they are but we also need grip said and oak regular
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expressions help in fact oak and said i have the feeling that my experience with them are just
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mere toe in the water of the deep abyss that would be those um tools so if you are familiar with those
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tools please don't assume that everybody is record a show on Saturday thank you very much
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frank replied again indeed regular expressions are complex they make my brain hurt frank
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i'm with you my friend i'm with you seeking some chemistry with shell commands some indication
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that whoever precipitation regular expressions did not just make it up from a whole cloth is
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something comforting i recently stumbled across a beginner's tutorial with a link digital ocean
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community tutorials which i went to and there's actually very very good link in the show notes
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what makes it so good is that it uses gpl key found on every Linux computer or the exercise gpl
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text so you can practice examples and try different options as you read along so the the text that
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you use in whoops is the gpl so that's pretty good so Dave says i skim through the tutorial and
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looks very good thanks for the pointers so pretty cool is this thanks to recording i really hope so
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okay the following day libra office multimedia and this is something that i have wanted to do uh
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and i've struggled with i really have so much soul that i just didn't bother and went video
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and then all's tab to an external player but hoca goes through and clarifies it and there i think
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he makes makes very good points where you know the libra office is lacking in certain things then
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moral volcano first time host excellent excellent show had i had i listened to this um does not like
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the fact that gnome 2 went away i'm guessing but makes valip makes absolutely valip points and
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earlier i was trying to explain it to my nine-year-old daughter and i met her the kin to you're
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playing on the playground and somebody some of their children changed the game is that nice
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yeah sometimes it is and if they'll do it and they don't tell you then is that nice
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oh it's not so uh so that's kind of what went on here but i a good do a very good um links here in the
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show notes as well and where you can get various different fonts as well so cool stuff more the only
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thing i was thinking moral volcano when you're doing a show don't waste all your topics on one show
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please record multiple shows guys okay the following day just me slammed my taste in coffee no
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actually the vast majority of coffee drunk in Ireland is uh nescafe instant so yes to be honest
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i don't think i could tell one brand of coffee from the other and as it turns out most uh
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studies on wine connoisseurs can tell the difference between red and white wine if they're put into
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two different bottles and i strongly suspect that probably people can tell the difference in coffee
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but uh i found some coffee here i found the coffee in the Netherlands the the regular stuff
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is very burnt to my liking so i found a nice uh eat the open coffee that's uh is in the supermarket
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and that's the one i drink it's pretty cool but a view into coffee uh i'd like to know from the
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other coffee connoisseurs on here because it's now a series are you all happy their coffee is an
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official series on hpr soon we'll be making kitten series but yes if people will insist on
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making coffee shows then uh go ahead uh please do so oh yes dice where passphrase from
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john duert duert and i oddly enough i hadn't heard about this before and then afterwards i
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kept seeing come up everywhere basically you have uh whole go of regular words from a dictionary
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are assigned the number you toss six uh i'm so dice and uh the number that comes out is fine the
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only thing i would suggest if you're doing this is um cleft cam synod lucky you're a walk i don't know
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how easy those would be to remember but yeah okay fair enough and that that's as unmemorable to me
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as uh has anything so what i tend to do with my passwords is um i have several different things
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inside them and then i will have i will maintain in each of them that is always a um one thing in
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that series this is all it was one thing in the next series always one thing in the next series
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in the next series and one of the series might be i don't know um rivers it isn't but it could be
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and uh the next series could be you know types of monkeys or something and then you do the lead
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lead-speak thing enough but not like just the easy lead speak um start looking at the keyboard
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and go yeah if i was to pause uh it was to make a t for example be a um chevron uh over the six
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like the chinese hat um with a pipe that would be a t so every time we come across that make up your own
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lead speak letters and then use that so then it's a it's a phrase that you it's a thing that you
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remember uh and of course you know one of your series should be heavily involved in numbers i don't
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know maybe you have a number and then you are you thinkful word and you convert that to the letters
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to numbers or something i don't know so yes anyway whatever works for you but it's an
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interesting approach and if it works for you then good um no for something completely different this
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was a shadowy figure who wanted to know if it was okay to uh uh ask was it out there yes it was
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out there and uh but we don't uh we don't as admins ever um check what the shows are so the shows
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that are put up there are the shows we have no um we have no we do not edit in any way the shows
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there's two ways for that one that's a traditional thing as in droops set it there on the
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and the ten year anniversary um you know why should i or anybody else you don't pick say whether
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it's a good show or not um so um there you go it was a very period piece and i'll say at the time
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i don't know if um it would pass the code of conduct taking for certain people but it did make me
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chuckle i must say um awesome that that's uh that that's a uh fifty one fifty shop are selling my
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my earbuds with a not enough that's i'm patent pending on that one just so you all know i've got
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a lot of intellectual property tied up in that particular idea so i will be chasing these people
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um so the following day was a short walk with my son Dave who is you know you know i'm not
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allowed to say you owe me a show anymore which is fine i'm happy with that unless of course
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you say you're going to do a show in which case you owe me a show it's a personal thing is
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nothing to do with hpr or the commitment or the gpl if you say can i'm going to send you a show
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now i will go yes you owe me a show so oh as he went along he just kept digging himself into a
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deeper and deeper hole Dave why did you do this now i have all these shows to you to uh keep track of
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although these lapel mics look really really cool i was thinking oh seeing if i could get one
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but by the time uh yeah bug Dave is course from the bugcast.org
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uh we're all good music meets someone's it's crazy common a metric versus imperial measurements yes
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that's uh he did that and uh met many promises of different shows to have so that was it for the
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shows for this month and i missed some comments from GNU Linux or TM just listened while walking to
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the dog and a cloudy spooky night before Halloween love the delivery working on working in all the
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hpr references and is going to learn more about the me go pad t02 they almost say the production
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quality on the on the shadowy figures theater performance was absolutely awesome i was funny
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because when the rain started i was going hey i know already got that he got that at free sound
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dot org cause uh cause i use that as white noise and work when i want to get so i want to go into
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the zone and people are being loud so pretty cool that was that for the shows let's see mailing
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list discussions um two main topics uh this month both of them concerned the community news so some
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months there's a lot of chatter uh more months it's uh nice and quiet there was a few comments on
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previous shows from um back in august and my bills multimeter mods part one i got a comment by
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nether geek nianner geek like that like that handle yes just got my uh unity ut61e and still waiting on
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my usb cable i may get a lead backlight added tomorrow i'll follow up when i do one of one of the
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photos had what looks like a story organizer for resistors in the form of one quarter of a circle
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do groups of four of them make stackable rings are they affordable and are they useful and my bill
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we tune in next month to find out what my bill says about that in the uh september episode frank
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bell did an episode on introduction to w3m command line web browser there were two comments
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comment number one was from tom underscore len hi i just discovered this tool
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w3m and i was wondering if it would be possible to access to a page that requires a login and password
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i need to be able to do an automatically from the command line i couldn't be pressing keys it's
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a headless server do you know if that's possible i would need to grab some text but once i logged in
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the url remains the same so he gives the uh the url according to the man page you can
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automatically log in with a proxy perhaps you could bend you will see the poth argument in the
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man page i'm skeptical that's what you want to do now i will reply back to tom underscore len now
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saying that this is absolutely possible using uh wget and it's absolutely possible using uh
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curl on a headless server not a problem um but that will save it out to a file and i don't know if
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that's if you want to do an interact i'm not 100% sure you want to do an interactive session here
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but then again you're saying that's a headless server so it seems to be that you want to script it
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but you can definitely do that which uh curl with wget and in both of them in curl especially you
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can change they use a rage and string if there's anything funky funky stuff going on there
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in curl you can also do uh pushes as well as gets and you can do um i guess um you can even do
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connections over ssl and stuff like that so that's pretty that's probably the way you want to go
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in response to gabriel even fires a mouse in amaze on the raspberry pi the comment number two
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was eric with a better mouse and here's my code for creating amaze and excel it's actually fairly
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easy to make a true maze without any block to sections basically it grows out of walls from the edges
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as long as you don't connect with other walls you'll end up with a graph where every space can be
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visited from every other space uh acumenet doesn't seem to uh like me posting code so just describe
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the acronym if you could email that eric place to um admin at hbur i'd like to see what you're
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doing um basically he says you create a square of rules from x without numbers you put a w and
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you tell i'm not going to describe that uh because it's a show on itself gosh hold on
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perhaps eric you could record a show on this and then in the show notes you could upload the excel
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document describing that that would be also is comment goes on very much to describe everything
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and gabriel replies that's an interesting algorithm i can intuitively see why it works but i want
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to think of how i could prove it one would put a start an end point in the maze in that case
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it transfers algorithm through the maze generated like that would probably just be a right hand
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rule variant since the wall would be a single connected component the truly random generation that
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i mentioned in the podcast does not guarantee that of course meaning the right hand rule would just
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lead the mouse in a circle forever actually if you if you want to uh can you go and please read
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this or uh gabriel can you record a comment back to this general rule of thumb if your comments
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starts hitting an essay then can you record a show especially if davis and here to read all the
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stuff out from ham so i was going to two isper into mind it always make that cheese are scandames
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and mark connected components ensure the mouse and the cheese land on the same connected component
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scandames mark the connected components and make a pair of independent connection components
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brick walls between them and connect on time the maze gets a single component connection your
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generation or approach produces much more sanitary generally pleasing looking maze i'm looking
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to see if there's a good way then to take it and shake it up a little to allow for disconnected
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world segments and such a while remains while and such while retaining such pleasingness of course
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there's another possibility to add the notion of teleporters to the maze as my face thanks for the
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insight on the algorithm that's what i like best about my little exercises there's so many variations
|
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you can make a lot of stuff for each of them in response to the awesome epic guide to kiddie
|
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and get his replied to a comment from me saying thanks can glad to know that you found the article
|
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useful and agree with the work while i'll be looking around for follow up and see if we can find
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another one absolutely cool that's where he took the mimics format and read out an article
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uh not just read out read it out with with feeling and there he also posted a reply back to
|
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John Colp who had previously said really enjoyed the episode um wants to thank you and Dave for
|
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the encouraging feedback from last month's community news episode i'm pleased that you both agree
|
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with being a good idea and to read creative comments articles i'd like to i'll take that as
|
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approval from the HPR community as i said before you don't need approval from the HPR community
|
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you just do it i'll even take requests if anyone finds something of interest that i can go
|
||
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virtual audio licensing permitting as you rightly pointed out hope it's not too long before i can
|
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post another show whether it's a regional content or not no definitely if it's creative comments
|
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and the license allows it and now go for it personally i don't think i could do that because as you
|
||
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can tell i'm struggling just to read out comments here uh whereas um whereas you seem to be able to
|
||
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read an article and make it like your uh just having a conversation in the pub which is an awesome
|
||
|
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gift um Dave Morris's episode and this here is a raspberry pie that will very soon be over there
|
||
|
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at my printer because this network printer that i spent over the odds to buy the network printing
|
||
|
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function has actually stopped so i'm printing now through my wife's PC so it means that in order to
|
||
|
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print i need to go through my wife's PC so i'm going to i'm having a raspberry pie on the inside of
|
||
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the network to connect to the raspberry pie in the intranet which i connect to the stepping
|
||
|
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stone server which i've been connected to from various different places yes i am paranoid but
|
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Dave and then as i was listening to Dave's episode about this i was also down in the recycling
|
||
|
|
shop in the kringle winkels uh thanks junkled for that tip and i was looking at perfectly good printers
|
||
|
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there that are not network attached anymore i was thinking hey if i had done a little bit of
|
||
|
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research or just got lucky there are printers down there for a tenor uh probably don't have any
|
||
|
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cartridges and then refer to my continuous in supply system printer find a good printer there
|
||
|
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make sure it works with continuous in supply system slap on a raspberry pie that you have
|
||
|
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anyway next to it with a usb connector bob johnkel mech johant and tom's your first cousin
|
||
|
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yes indeedy anyway back to the comments for the episodes because i'm 100% sure you have no
|
||
|
|
interest in me listening to this so um we had a whoa remote scanning comment previously from
|
||
|
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john kulp and at the time i was thinking i think he was thinking why would you ever do that
|
||
|
|
and since then i've been thinking yes we'll give you a lot more control than the printer itself
|
||
|
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if i can control it remotely with a scanner because i do have a sheet feeder on this thing and then
|
||
|
|
would allow me to take it the problem with it is the sheet feeder thing has a it works and then
|
||
|
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i have to it saves it to a particular file format and there's no control you basically don't
|
||
|
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have any controllers just dumped on a on a network location whereas if i'm scanning that in using
|
||
|
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a piece using a linux machine i can then set up our toolchain where i can scan and then do a
|
||
|
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worc perhaps on at least put file names in that our mean something to me anyway back to the comments
|
||
|
|
meanwhile back to the comments dead morris remote scanning exception thanks john i like that
|
||
|
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rousers can turn can run printers like this boss suspect the features are limited and john was on
|
||
|
|
about getting a rouser that he got in a in the good will shop back to davis comments i have plans
|
||
|
|
to experiment with kulp's perhaps configuring other cues for a different size stationary for
|
||
|
|
example i also have a very old deck ln03 monochrome laser printer circa 1987 which i'd like to
|
||
|
|
hook up if it still works it needs a serial connection which should be fun the scanning capability
|
||
|
|
is good to have and has been used more than i would have expected quality is not particularly high
|
||
|
|
but it's good enough for most purposes then we had a comment by turtle nice show here is the kulp's
|
||
|
|
ppd for the deck ln03 just proves that people are subscribed to the hpr feed as well yolts has the
|
||
|
|
manual and only need is a usb to serial adapter looking forward to hearing about getting it running
|
||
|
|
and putting that on the pie and other printer cheers turtle dav morris replied deck ln03 thanks
|
||
|
|
turtle i had not got as far as checking drivers and manuals very useful from my initial researches
|
||
|
|
this is with anything with dav you just dangle some tech in front of him and he's gone
|
||
|
|
anyway and i will not have other people use dav in such a manner that i use him on hpr
|
||
|
|
from an initial resource back to the comments from an initial researches i was sure i wasn't sure
|
||
|
|
whether a serial adapter could drive the printer i didn't know if it needs flow control for
|
||
|
|
example however i should continue to investigate i also have a hundred and thirty two column matrix
|
||
|
|
printer somewhere in the attic but i think it has a centralics parallel connector wow that
|
||
|
|
takes me back so i suspect that there will be a challenge to get that work in bob evans
|
||
|
|
replies connecting to legacy printers hi day thanks for this timely episode i'm considering a pie
|
||
|
|
to serve my hp laser jet 2200 printer on my home network the deck nln03 uses rs232 rs422 for
|
||
|
|
a serial connection you should be able to use usp to serial converter i used an ln03 with pc
|
||
|
|
clones and i was able to run a serial link as fast as 19 200 bold user manual wind case how to set
|
||
|
|
serial parameters via dip switches near the data connector excellent i suggest verifying the
|
||
|
|
print engine still works by printing a few test page before trying to connect to a computer i
|
||
|
|
think there is a small square white button on the back that indicates printing of a test page
|
||
|
|
it is probably difficult now to get toner or replacement parts like feed rollers for the ln03
|
||
|
|
when the nln gears inside my ln03 fractured i finally ditched the printers after about 20
|
||
|
|
years of use in the home office columns there would it now not be possible to print off a replacement
|
||
|
|
part on a 3d printer perhaps be an interesting topic for somebody anyway be aware that there are
|
||
|
|
a few different ln03 models mine was the rare image printer that would only accept
|
||
|
|
post crypt the model will determine the driver and the settings that need to be used the ln03
|
||
|
|
always keeps the fuse a unit hot this is a big hour consumer and harsh on the mechanics that
|
||
|
|
transport paper and the photosensitive band there used to be a usp to parallel converter available
|
||
|
|
if you can find one of those you might be able to easily connect to a matrix printer bob dav
|
||
|
|
replies thanks for the information bob i haven't checked the ln03 works yet it might not
|
||
|
|
sense it sold i'm pleased to hear there's a good chance of running it from the pie though
|
||
|
|
if it does though the university i worked with both the pair of ln03s with a wax cluster in 1987
|
||
|
|
and i had a job of setting them up back when then under vms i'm pretty sure neither of them
|
||
|
|
were image printers we later brought a lps 17 i think with a lps 32 much faster higher volume
|
||
|
|
printers with duplexers i didn't offer to take them home when they were phased up though i might
|
||
|
|
have some supplies for the printer but not much of anything so might be a sure lived experiment
|
||
|
|
even if it does still print i need to check out the printer matrix the matrix printer as well
|
||
|
|
though i don't really have a use for it anymore and only one box of line printers by the way people
|
||
|
|
before you throw anything away don't throw the way always check with computer museums and
|
||
|
|
other places i don't know actually where other places would be if you have ideas of other places
|
||
|
|
before you throw out stuff just check and see if somebody else might be interested in
|
||
|
|
having it as i said those older pieces of kit are probably getting quite
|
||
|
|
fair fairly difficult to come in contact with now kuvno had a comment which i missed
|
||
|
|
actually you know it was an awkward talk with two young computer users and this was
|
||
|
|
hosted by kuvno himself how with his children and response to frank we said it was absolutely delightful
|
||
|
|
combiner agreed and said yes it's not awkward it's just as natural as a podcast can be
|
||
|
|
and rehabilitation keep it up someone in the euros is waiting for more stuff like this
|
||
|
|
wow there you go laugh yes library makerspace by john cult there was one comment by
|
||
|
|
someone called 3d print great program thanks uh lookspot is open harder the other one
|
||
|
|
i think not stl files as far as i know are not edible edible for binaries problem of
|
||
|
|
open washing in websites original CAD not available use free CAD to do more magnets use a tight
|
||
|
|
tolerance to go in but use a large chamber inside magnets use a tight tolerance to go in but
|
||
|
|
use a large chamber inside oh yes yes i think he's talking about the the modifications
|
||
|
|
forward the stand perhaps one comment on uh ahuka's home ssh server which i apparently skipped it
|
||
|
|
over um by kady marie ssh passers just quick clarification on a point made just after the 14
|
||
|
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minute mark with regard to remote logging to an ssh server from the internet who can make
|
||
|
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the comment you're transmitting the password in the clear according to the ssh man page all communications
|
||
|
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between client server including password verification are done using public key encryption which is
|
||
|
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correct finally and this is in quotes finally if other authentication methods fail ssh prompts the
|
||
|
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user for a password the password is sent to the remote host for checking however since all
|
||
|
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communications are encrypted the password cannot be seen by anyone listening on the network
|
||
|
|
and in court when using open and possibly hostile metrics something to keep in mind is to watch
|
||
|
|
for the warnings for server-sector get fingerprints as changed this comes up for a server you use
|
||
|
|
regularly be very very suspicious he loves hearing about security stuff so keep it going smiley face
|
||
|
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yeah got a lot of points there and that's pretty much it for for today i think um sorry uhuka
|
||
|
|
could enjoy us and also sorry that my uh little helper i wasn't able to um yeah filled recordings
|
||
|
|
happen all the time we're afraid folks that's that's just it i don't have anything else to say at
|
||
|
|
this point in time there wasn't a lot on the on the mailing list other than to say the four
|
||
|
|
doors of our camp they um it's been a while since i've been in the uk to our camp and they
|
||
|
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tabled a lot that we have over there it's absolutely covered in signatures of people who have contributed
|
||
|
|
shows to hpur this is uh really really cool thing so if you want to be one of those people who
|
||
|
|
whether it's on the uh in the us or in the uk or here in europe comes across a hpur table uh you
|
||
|
|
will be able to sign your name on that table by simply recording a show for a heck of a degree
|
||
|
|
hot more motivation do you need so also please consider if you're not involved in hgur of no
|
||
|
|
desire to record a show see if you can get more people to record shows i'm particularly interested in
|
||
|
|
other types of voices that you might not hear on hpur as much so read into that whatever you mean
|
||
|
|
whatever you like but the more the merrier that is what we need okay and tune in tomorrow for another
|
||
|
|
exciting episode of hacker public radio join us now and share the software you'll be free hacker you'll be
|
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|
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|
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|
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|
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