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Episode: 4526
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Title: Baofeng and SDR++
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Source: https://hub.hackerpublicradio.org/ccdn.php?filename=/eps/hpr4526/hpr4526.mp3
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Transcribed: 2026-07-31 16:13:18 (official HPR transcript)
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This is Hacker Public Radio Episode 4526, for 2025-12-08
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Today's show is entitled, "Baofeng and SDR++"
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The host is Lee and the duration is 00:09:33
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The flag is Clean, and the license is CC-BY-SA
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The summary is "Lee tries transmitting and recording on VHF and UHF"
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Hello, I'm Lee.
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Sturmgren's talk about dipping my turn in the water of Imterradio.
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I took the UK Imterradio Foundation license exam in March 2025, for a while I've been
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experimenting with software to find Rageau and had been trying to pick up signals such
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as commercial FM and DAB Rageau with my SDR dongle on my PC running event too.
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But up until now I've not even tried transmitting.
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Back in 2024, I'd obtained two handsets that look like walkie talkies.
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After Mr. X showed me this type of unit, that old camp, the making model of the ones
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I had, is a bow-fing UV-5R, six mobs after taking the exam.
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I finally got around to finding out my cool sign, and downloading my license from off-com,
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who are the regulators.
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I record from my study for that exam, that according to the license terms, is mandatory
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to announce your cool sign in the station, which is basically meaning where you're transmitting
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from, when commencing a session that includes transmissions on amateur bands, also why
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you can transmit live signals and conversing real time.
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We've even then coded a bit not encrypted non-voice signals, actual broadcastings such as playing
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pieces of music, but commercial radio station is not permitted.
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Furthermore, the power of the transmissions should not exceed 10 watts, and a handset
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like the ones I have, indeed, does full below this level, even at the highest transmit
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power setting.
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For this initial experiment transmitting, I wanted to speak a voice message from my handset,
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and pick it up on my PC with the real-tech chipset SDR.com, and even record it.
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To decide how to transmit and receive my signal, first I need to consider its parameters.
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First the distance.
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This would be very short, indeed, within another room in the same building, a power much
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less than the allowed ten watts would be more than adequate, than the frequency range.
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To transmit spoken voice signals clearly, frequencies up to 8 kilohertz need to be accurately
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conveyed.
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The Vows are low frequency, say, less than 1,000 hertz, consonants in general range up
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to around 2,000 hertz, those specific consonants could civilen some more like 4,000 or
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more.
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So this set my approximate bandwidth I would need to be of the order of magnitude of
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10 kilohertz.
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Then I wanted to choose what channel and modulation scheme to use.
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Frequency modulation seemed most apt, as it's a fairly simple mechanism that offers reasonable
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protection against distortion.
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Then the two meter wavelength band, with frequency 145.5Mhz, is channel V40, which can
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be used for FM.
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Alternatively, in the 70 cm band, with frequency 4, 3, 3.5Mhz, those channel U280, which
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can also be used for FM.
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Both these channels have made bands for UKM to radio, license holder, transmissions.
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Channel V40 is apparently what used, so I decided to try U280 at first.
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This my transmission was for test purposes, rather than deliberately contact other amateur
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radio uses.
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While using FM, there is narrow band or wide band FM, wide band as you would expect
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uses more bandwidth, and this hence use commercially for music, which tends to need frequencies
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up to 44 kilohertz.
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For my purpose, it's narrow band was fine, and it's more conservative in its use of
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the radio spectrum, hence impacting any other uses less.
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What I was aiming for was to communicate in one direction from transmitted to receiver.
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This mydi is nine as simplex, with two-way comms, nine as duplex.
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I started my experiment setting up STR++, which is some software capable of reading data
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from the USB-Dongol, and extracting specific radio signals, then plotting as both a real-time
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horizontal spectrum and a vertically scrolling calicoid frequency trace.
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It also demodulates the chosen signal, so the actual audio of it can be listened to or
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recorded for further processing.
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I plan to set the frequency modulation scheme and bandwidth for other receiver, the 433.5
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narrow band FM, and a standard 12.5 kilohertz respectively, then on the handset set this
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same frequency and try transmitting and see what happened.
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So as soon as I told software to start listening, I got a load of white noise coming in.
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So options to adjust the gain as well as scale and offset white plot, so the background noise
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would be near the bottom, and then he signal near the top of the fluctuating graph.
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It seemed to be very little else I was seeing using this part of the spectrum.
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As soon as I pressed the push to talk button, my handset, I saw the noise disappear, and
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the signal centered on the carrier frequency of 433.5 mHz.
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Actually, after zooming in later, I realized it was slightly off-center, but the software
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allows the centering to be slightly adjusted for a closer match.
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The spike I saw was clearly the carrier wave.
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I knew the signal itself would manifest the symmetrical bumps to the left and right of the spike.
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What surprised me though, was there were slightly diminishing amplitude, go signals appearing
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at regular frequency intervals, falling off an either side of my actual signal.
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After a little research I summarized this was to do with eye-strike U imbalance, an artifact
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of the signal demodulation process.
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Those are setting in the software that's meant to counter this.
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For the gain, which is how much the signal will be amplified and diminished to fit the
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desired output range, there were options to handle this automatically via the real tech
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chip set of either software, or alternatively it could be set manually, so from zero
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decibels, meaning a 1 to 1 input to output correspondants up to 48 decibels, that corresponds
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to the output being about 150 times the input.
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The result of my experiment was I got a very quiet reception of why I spoke into the transmitter.
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To the extent I had not noticed it was there until I happened to share the signal with
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a naïe, tell me troubleshoot, or surprised when it was able to tell me exactly what I'd
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said in the transmission.
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After this I realized I could use the compression filter, or amplification filter and
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audacity, and did actually see the spoken message was there.
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The troubleshooting I went through almost every relevant setting on the transmitter, as well
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as receiving software.
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I actually even switched band down from UHF to VHF, and was using the 145.5MHz channel called V40,
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thinking this would make a material difference.
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Also I tried to adjust in the bandwidth for the receiving end, thinking the signal may
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be being restricted by sampling to a narrow band.
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Offerating the handset menu, meant pressing menu, then up or down or key numerically,
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the menu option desired, then pressing menu to edit, up or down to choose the setting
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value, then menu again to save, and exit to go back to the frequency display.
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There was also an orange key to the top left, this switch between choosing a frequency
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numerically, or letting the up and down keys page free set standard channels, the punctuate
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the whole spectrum.
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One of the things I tried was checking on my handset, if the squelch was set up, which
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silence is noise when nothing is being said, or whether there was a transmit tone out
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of audible range being said, called CTCS or DTS.
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These features are used to signal to a receiver, something is on air, even if that's
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something is silence.
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This allows automatic activation of squelch, or can help a repeat and note the signal
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is there, and the SFTD is another setting that determines the offset frequency to allow
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it to be relayed slightly further up or down on the spectrum, while repeat achieving
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greater range.
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But these settings were all turned off, there was a setting for busy channel lock-out
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to stop accidentally transmitting over the top of someone else.
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But this was off too, there were a load of other settings in the menu, the related
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tenset operation rather than characteristics of the radio signal send.
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But I eventually figured out, it's my problem was this, before transmitting there was
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a lot of loud white noise, just random radio noise in the air, for picking up my voice
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on the recording, I had the recording sensitivity set low, otherwise this white noise
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was incredibly loud, but as soon as I transmitted the white noise was gone, replaced
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by my signal, however, because the recording level was very low, my voice came through
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very, very quietly, while I had to do was counting intuitively, so the recording level
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up to their maximum, even though this meant very loud white noise prior to an after transmission,
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only then when I did actually transmit was my voice order one recording, I had to cut
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out the very loud noisy bit before an after transmission in audacity, before then amplifying
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the recording to something I could hear easily, anyway, here's the recording I made of my signal.
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So that was my first experience transmitting on nanometer bands, and now now a lot better
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how to operate the handset, as well as making the fairly theoretical stuff I learned for the
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exam more tangible to me. Anyway, with that I'll sign off from hack public radio, and thank you
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for listening, over and out.
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You have been listening to Hacker Public Radio at Hacker Public Radio.org.
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