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Episode: 4563
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Title: Nuclear Reactor Technology - Ep 5 Fast Reactors
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Source: https://hub.hackerpublicradio.org/ccdn.php?filename=/eps/hpr4563/hpr4563.mp3
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Transcribed: 2026-07-31 16:13:57 (official HPR transcript)
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This is Hacker Public Radio Episode 4563, for 2026-01-28
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Today's show is entitled, "Nuclear Reactor Technology - Ep 5 Fast Reactors"
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The host is Whiskeyjack and the duration is 00:12:07
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The flag is Clean, and the license is CC-BY-SA
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The summary is "Fast neutron reactors"
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This episode is the fifth in an eight-part series, a nuclear reactor technology.
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In the previous episode, we discussed some of the less common historical reactor types.
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In this episode, we will describe fast neutron reactors.
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Definition, fast versus slow neutrons.
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Fast neutron reactors are ones which use the fast neutron reaction.
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This is as opposed to slow or thermal neutron reactors which use a slow neutron reaction.
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Nearly all reactors in use today use a slow neutron reaction.
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Moderators. The normal nuclear reaction is the fast one.
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However, reactors which use a slow reaction are simpler and cheaper to build.
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Therefore, most reactors use a moderator to slow down the fast neutrons to bake them slow neutrons.
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The most common moderators are ordinary light water, heavy water, and graphite.
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Light water is not the best of moderators, so reactors which use it need to enrich the uranium fuel
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to a higher percentage of U235 to compensate for this.
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By their nature, fast neutron reactors do not use a moderator.
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Indeed, a moderator is detrimental to the operation.
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However, since even the coolant could moderate the reaction, fast neutron reactors generally use something other than water
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to act as a coolant and carry the heat from the fuel to the steam generator.
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Burners versus breeders.
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While fast neutron reactors can produce more fizzile material than they consume, not all designs do.
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Once which produce more fizzile material than they consume are called breeders.
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Once which produces less fizzile material than they consume are called burners.
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This described by the breeding ratio.
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A reactor with a breeding ratio of less than one consumes more fizzile material than it produces.
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A reactor with a breeding ratio of greater than one produces more fizzile material than it consumes.
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Fast-fission fuel cycle, typical fuel.
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Uranium visions more efficiently with slow neutrons than fast neutrons.
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However, plutonium visions better than uranium does with fast neutrons.
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Also, plutonium 239 produces 25% more neutrons than uranium.
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Fast neutrons are more efficient at converting U238 to plutonium than slow neutrons.
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There are multiple ways the fuel can be arranged in the reactor with different arrangements
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giving different characteristics.
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Other methods.
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India are apparently working on fast neutron reactors that produce plutonium from uranium
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and U233 from thorium at the same time.
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The plutonium and U233 are then used with thorium in slow neutron reactors.
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Reprocessing.
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Reprocessing with spent fuel is fundamental to the fast-fission fuel cycle
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in most fast reactor designs, as that is how excess plutonium is harvested and used in other reactors.
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Reprocessing involves chemically separating different elements from one another
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in order to keep the desirable ones for recycling and getting rid of the undesirable ones.
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Fuel types.
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Here are the common fuel types for fast reactors.
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Oxide.
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This is similar to how fuel is made for most reactors.
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It has low thermal conductivity.
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It does not react with sodium or lead.
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The characteristics are well known.
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Metal.
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It has a high thermal conductivity.
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It is easier to reprocess.
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It has a tendency to self-regulate.
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As temperature increases, the metal expands.
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This causes the reaction to slow down as the atoms get further apart.
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If the coolant stops flowing, the reaction tends to shut itself down.
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This acts as an inherent safety feature.
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Nitride.
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Nitride fuel, that is fuel incorporating nitrogen, has a much higher thermal conductivity
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than oxygen fuel.
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However, this fuel is more difficult to make, and is still subject to further R&D.
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Carbide.
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Carbide fuel incorporates carbon.
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The pros and cons are similar to those of nitride fuel.
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Coolant.
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Fast neutron reactors are generally categorized based on the type of coolant they use.
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Coolant are generally either liquid metal, gas, or molten salt.
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The coolant will transfer the heat from the reactor to a steam generator to produce steam
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for the turbine.
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Liquid sodium.
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Liquid sodium is a common choice for fast neutron reactors.
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Sometimes a sodium potassium alloy is used instead.
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It does not interfere much with neutrons.
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It is a good conductor of heat.
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It is non-corrosive.
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Premium cooled reactors are good for producing plutonium for further use in fuel.
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It has a high boiling point, so the reactor can operate at ambient temperature.
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On the negative side, sodium reacts chemically to air and water, meaning that a coolant
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leak can result in a chemical fire.
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Liquid lead or lead bismoth.
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Lead or lead bismoth fast neutron reactors have advantages similar to those of sodium cooled
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ones.
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However, they are not as good at producing plutonium for fuel.
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Helium gas.
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This uses helium gas as a coolant.
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This is subject to ongoing research and there isn't a lot of information about this
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style.
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The main advantage of gas cooling is to avoid the potential chemical reaction problems
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of sodium coolant in the advent of a leak in the steam generator.
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Maltons salt.
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This uses a molten salt as a coolant.
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I will discuss Maltons salt reactors separately, so I won't go into a lot of detail here.
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History of fast neutron reactors.
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The origins.
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More than 2 dozen fast neutron reactors have been built.
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The earliest ones date from the 1950s.
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Most have been small to medium sized research or prototype reactors.
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Several, though, were large power reactors.
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They have been built in China, France, Germany, India, Japan, Kazakhstan, Russia, the UK and the US.
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Reasons for developing them.
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Interested them originated from a belief that uranium supplies were limited, so there
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was a desire to design reactors that could use fuel more efficiently.
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However, after the discovery of very large, high-grade uranium deposits in a number of parts
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of the world, such as Australia, Canada, Kazakhstan, and other places, interesting fast neutron
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reactors waned as it became evident that fresh uranium fuel would be abundant and inexpensive.
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Reasons there are still being developed.
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Interest remained in some quarters for two reasons.
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One is that some countries, such as India, have much more thorium than uranium, and they
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wish to be able to produce plutonium in order to enable a thorium fuel cycle.
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The other area of interest isn't using them to burn high-level waste in order to get rid of
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it.
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A fast neutron reaction can consume radioactive isotopes that cannot be consumed in slow neutron
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reactors.
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Fast neutron reactors are proven technology.
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However, they are not currently an economic technology compared to slow neutron reactors
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in a era of abundant fresh uranium.
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They were developed to solve a problem that hasn't arisen, which is assured as your fresh
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uranium.
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plutonium stockpiles, several countries built up stockpiles of civil plutonium, with the intention
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of using it to fuel the start-up of fast neutron reactors.
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However, the canceling of plans for fast neutron reactors left these stockpiles with no immediate
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purpose.
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This led to the pursuit of plans to use these stockpiles in Mox fuel for slow neutron reactors,
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or finding other ways of getting rid of it.
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Pros and cons of fast reactors, if fast reactors are more expensive and difficult to operate
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than slow reactors, why is there any interest in them?
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Pros Fast neutron reactors can use all of the uranium supply by converting the U238 to plutonium
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as well as using the U235.
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The new neutron reactors can only use the U235, plus converting a very small proportion
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of the U238 to plutonium.
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This means that a given amount of fuel will go much further when used with a fast reactor
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than a slow one.
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Some, but not all, fast neutron reactors can produce more plutonium than they use.
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This extra plutonium can be used to bake uranium plutonium mixed oxide or mox fuel to be used
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in slow reactors, or can be used to power a thorium fuel cycle.
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So the higher cost of the fast neutron reactors can be offset by having to produce fuel
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for several slow neutron or thorium reactors.
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They can also use up or burn radioactive waste.
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That is, highly radioactive elements, which are a byproduct of fuel use, but not usable
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as fuel by themselves, can be separated from the spent fuel and fed back into the reactor
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where the additional radiation will convert them into elements or isotopes, which are
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either not radioactive, or which are otherwise easier to dispose of.
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Cons.
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There are a number of cons, however, as otherwise there would be a lot more fast reactors
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in the world.
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Since water, evens, light water, is a moderator, fast neutron reactors cannot use water as
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a coolant.
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Other alternatives, coolants, must be used, and these complicate the design of the reactor
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and make it more difficult to operate.
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Alternative compatible coolants may be corrosive, and so new materials may need to be developed
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for both the reactor vessel and the fuel cladding.
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Alternative coolants are often opaque, making it difficult to inspect the reactor.
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The fuel cycle requires reprocessing spent fuel, which means that reprocessing facilities have
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to be set up, which is an additional expense.
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Fast neutron reactors were primarily developed on the premise that uranium supplies were
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limited and would soon become very expensive.
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However, new very large and very high-grade uranium deposits were discovered in Canada, Australia,
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and Kazakhstan, causing uranium prices to fall rather than rise.
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As a result, it is much cheaper to operate a once-through fuel cycle than to build fast neutron
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reactors.
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After prospects, currently, fast neutron reactors are not economically competitive with
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slow neutron reactors for electric power generation, so there is a lot of interest from
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prospective customers.
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Originally, interest in them was driven by a belief that the world would prud short of uranium.
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However, higher uranium prices sparked increased mineral exploration, which resulted in finding
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large high-grade reserves of low-cost uranium, undercutting the need for economic use.
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There is still ongoing R&D, though, as they offer several other use cases.
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One is to get rid of radioactive waste elements by turning them into non-radioactive or less-radioactive
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isotopes or elements.
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The other is to provide a supply of plutonium for fueling thorium reactors.
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Conclusion, this has been a short overview of fast neutron reactors, including their history,
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uses and underlying design features.
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In the next episode, we will describe the use of thorium in nuclear power, including what
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thorium is, how it differs from uranium, and what sort of reactors can use it.
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This concludes the fifth episode of an eight-part series on nuclear reactor technology.
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You have been listening to Hacker Public Radio at Hacker Public Radio.org.
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