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Episode: 4634
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Title: Upgrade Failsause
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Source: https://hub.hackerpublicradio.org/ccdn.php?filename=/eps/hpr4634/hpr4634.mp3
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Transcribed: 2026-07-31 16:15:36 (official HPR transcript)
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This is Hacker Public Radio Episode 4634, for 2026-05-07
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Today's show is entitled, "Upgrade Failsause"
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The host is operat0r and the duration is 00:20:46
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The flag is Clean, and the license is CC-BY-SA
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The summary is "operat0r goes over how he rebuit his Plex root FS"
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You are listening to a show from the Reserve Queue.
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This show was submitted in August 2025 to cover occasions like this
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where there are gaps in the schedule.
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You are listening to a show from the Reserve Queue.
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This show was submitted in August 2025 to cover occasions like this
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where there are gaps in the schedule.
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Hello everyone and welcome to another episode of Hacker Public Radio with your host operator.
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So today I'm going to be telling you about my follies with basically rebuilding my 8-year-old
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build.
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And I didn't know that it was 8-year-old, but it was at 60 gigs and after the rebuild, it's
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down to 30.
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So I'm going to tell you what I ran into, the issues I had, the issues I couldn't fix.
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It kind of started with a few nights ago, I decided to upgrade the release because I was
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having issues with some packages installing because the branch that I was using was, I think,
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still buster.
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And now we're on bulls-eye of Debian.
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So with that said, I'll just, with the foam, it was kind of lazy, half-witted, and I didn't
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do really any backups and I said, you know what, I'll just run update through the phone
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and I'll connect to it later and fix any problems.
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Well, I was doing other things, something died in the middle of it and I tried to fix it
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and I said, ah, just reboot and you know, pick up the install again.
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Now, I'm going to install me something happened at the hardware layer with a specific service.
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And it has to do with, see if I can find it.
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So I've looked, and this all kind of started with system D hardware DB or hardware database
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part of a user merge system D hardware DB and accompanying libraries and files.
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So essentially, I think this is what detects hardware on your system and then what's that
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in to be loaded up with drivers or whatever when you start the computer.
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So something happened with some symbolic linking or whatever and I tried the AI to get the
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AI to fix it and at one point in time I rebooted and it would not boot.
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It would boot off the kernel and the boot image, but then when it booted into the main system,
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it would say it couldn't find any disks to boot from, even though it booted from those
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disks.
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So I think the AI called it in Nija disk in Nija where it boots off of the right
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board slash boot and it pulls the right image and it boots off the right thing.
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But then when it boots up, it tries to look for drives that aren't there or they're
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mapped wrong or they're missing or the UIDs have changed.
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For me, I always bind drives via UID.
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I think that's done by default now, at least maybe, because for me, specifically, with
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this board drives 10 to move around for no reason at all whatsoever.
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I have no external devices, everything is plugged in in the same way every time, but
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depending on the boot order or whatever it works, the drives will move around.
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So as DA, SDD, SDC, SDP will move around, which is not conducive to trying to boot to a system.
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So I always use UID when I kind of have anything to do with Linux and disks.
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That issue, I tried to troubleshoot, again, it was like symbolic linking issue.
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I couldn't for the life of me figure out how to fix it.
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So I said, you know what?
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The only thing I haven't really restored is the Plex server with all the database stuff.
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That's the only thing I'm worried about the rest of the stuff by backup scripts, basically
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reproduce everything at the user level.
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Now where possible, try to run everything as a user, not like install as route and running
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as route.
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Basically, your modern applications will sometimes create a new user, which I'm not the
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biggest fan of, I guess it does help if you're segmenting out.
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So you have a user for Plex and a user for this service and a user for that service and
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a user for that service, it's something happens, you're not necessarily going to compromise
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the other users, but if you've got somebody on your system that's rummaging around
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and that's based, they're going to find something to pivot from or to anyways.
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So that said, did a rebuild, I used Windows to create the image.
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It's called Rufus, UFUS and I will put this in the show notes for our buddies.
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Let me make some show notes for you guys.
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And that builds the image you pull down the image, you can even tell it to download the
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image, I don't really trust it.
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So I pulled down the latest Devine 12 and I gave it.
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Excuse me, that image to work from, I could find some liquids, I have a very giant
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living here, metal container that often will hum when it's empty, but it's got stuff
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in it.
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So you want to have to suffer the excuse me, the ringing in your ears, so let's get
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into it.
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These kind of steps are to kind of put the system back at the way it was.
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I installed screen, I installed PS miscellaneous, it was just like PS tools, screen,
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net tools for like, I have config, which nobody uses anymore.
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Snap D, that's for the plex client, it's based via SNAP and also I think something else
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runs via SNAP radar or so on are one of them once they're on SNAP.
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The plex, which I gave up on, I used virtual environment, X-bind keys for binding keys on
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a remote to keys in Linux, so I'll add X-bind key examples.
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I think I did an episode on that, but it allows you to bind a key to any, basically,
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do anything, you could bind it to pressing the other keys, you can bind it to pressing
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the other keys and executing a program.
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So for example, if you had a client server, you could start at the client, start at the
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server on the back end and then start at the client through the UI or something, all
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with X-bind keys.
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It's not quite something as, say, like, auto hockey, but it gets to jump to get in
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MAP before, which is a network mapping tool, mono runtime, which I don't think I needed
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either way, which is for waking up interfaces.
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Cloud Flared DNS, which I did not configure, my IP doesn't change that much, I'm about
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to get fiber, so that's going to be good.
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M-locate, which is for low KDB, I don't know if anybody uses it, but low K, is for easily
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creating indexes of your drives.
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Now that does include, when you run it as root, it does include all the drives in your
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tire system and there is some metadata in there, I think it's actually just a 5-5.
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But that's runs, and you can include other drives within Locate, other than your group
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drive.
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So I've got some stuff in here for install Python, KSA, KASA, Python dashed KASA, and that's
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what I use to control a couple of things, actually, the light switch in the living room
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is a KSA compatible framework, and I can turn the dimming switch and bind that to X keys.
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So I can essentially press 5, and that will make it as bright as possible.
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Is dim as possible?
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4 is brighter, 3 is even brighter, 2, I think 3 is the brightest, and 2 is bound to sunshine
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and moonlight, which is a remote access, or remote streaming tool, similar to streams,
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or steams, the steaming, streaming, I don't think I've done an episode that, but I owe
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you one on that whole setup, because it is beautiful, sunshine, moonlight, and night, night
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light, or night time, or in night, X night, play night, play night is what it's called.
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It's a single launcher for all of your launchers, essentially, which is great.
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So anyways, let's get on.
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Let's see, we've got our content with the ether wake, so I can wake up my desktop from
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the server that's always on.
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The desktop is not always on.
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I have some voice counts and scouts, scouts, scripts that run on my run tab, nothing
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fancy there.
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Now I do use UIDs on my mounting, so that's one thing that did change on the rebuild, a couple
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of UIDs change for whatever reason, but don't know how those are created, I don't understand
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why they would change on an update, so that was a little confusing to me as to how those
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were mounted.
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Some of the options I passed him out are defaults no fail no a time.
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Now I think a time and no fail kind of makes things faster and or more liquid in an
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environment where you're not super worried about disc issues or issues with, you know,
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sinking disc or whatever, where where speed is a priority.
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And I also run tune FS to change the count mount and the days to basically every five
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days or seven months or seven days and five months, all of the drives will rescan their
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selves.
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Let's see what else, auto log in for XFCE fairly simple, I don't use for UPS battery
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we have a USB cable plugged into the computer and that's how I handle the setting down
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and starting up of the connection to the backup battery.
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And I used to use PWR, stat D, don't do that anymore, I used U power which is a compatible
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with these cyber power things I've got, you can have three cyber powers, I don't have
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any more IPC anymore, I'm not an APC guy because their deals are better and they're more
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residential based battery backups.
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But anyways, I've got notes in there that says what the configuration file looks like,
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standard percent low, critical three percent low and then I think there's like a time
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out to dot to falsely, let's see, when I did restore the server, I had some issues because
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I had home Plex library and that was where a lot of the art or cover art or metadata
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was for the build for Plex and then I had where Plex was running out of which was media
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more data underscore Plex user, lid Plex media server and those by itself I just copied
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the Plex media server folder and then I restarted everything and I couldn't get connected
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back into the database, into Plex, it just kept saying there was a new server there
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that needed to be picked up and that's not what I wanted.
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So luckily I didn't mangle any of the data or the database or the sync tables because
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it's essentially all encrypted sort of, so there's like a key that gets created so if
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you don't back up that key, it's like an XML file or i9 file, if you don't back up that
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i9 file, even if you nuke everything and you nuke your database and whatever, you can
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still kind of restore that connection back and pick up some of the information in there
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so anyways, so I'm looking at actually properly backing up the Plex stuff because I had
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to restore it in a different way.
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Let's see auto starting Plex, basically your basic dot desktop files that you put inside
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of the auto start folder for XFCE so you can get stuff to start on boot or when it
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basically logs in.
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Now I did manage to get SAP and ZBD plugged in which that is what download stuff from
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username at 40, that is the main, the download of four username and I had to do a bit
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of it, I just have a dump of my notes but I had to use a wrapper and use virtual, virtual
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Python environment to get it all happy.
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So I just had AI rewrite me a SAP and ZBD-rever.sh file to automate the kind of start-up
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of SAP and ZBD and activating that environment so that it will just work.
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It was probably a better way to do it but I like it running out of its own thing.
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Same thing with Sonar and Radar, similar setups, similar backups, they're both monobased,
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I think and one or the other I had a little bit more problems with, I don't remember which
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one I had, more problems with, I had some scripts and stuff for the lights, again the other
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piece of that is a watchdog and basically the command is Kaseya, dash host and then the
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host name of whatever you want to control and then off and it's this little tiny little
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box, I don't know if you can make it, it's a TP link actually, yeah, a TP link makes
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it, it's a little tiny little boxy plug in line with your, I actually have it on a power
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strip and there's not a ton of power coming through here and I don't know, it actually
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is a lot but I did check the voltage, the Max Amperage on this and it's actually very high.
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The cool thing about this, I didn't know this watchdog that I made to force reboot
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Omendous computer, if you want to get so's up, it tells you the amount of energy that
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it's using which is kind of cool.
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So if you type in host and then I think it's called dash-host and then the name of the host
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in like a numerate or something explore, I don't know what it is, but it'll give you back
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information about the usage and the average usage and the usage of the day.
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So that's kind of interesting to understand, boy, sometimes I do training and eat up the
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whole GPU for, you know, hours on in and it'll be nice to have some of that information
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and I can bind that to see how much it actually cost.
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I also use the server as a Moonlight client or Sunshine for the Sunshine Server, so a Moon
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Sunshine client that is called Moonlight and that's the streaming thing that I use for playing
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games from upstairs here or on the phone or whatever.
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So my desktop gaming desktop is in this spare bedroom and from there I can remote in through
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my phone, if I tunnel in through the VPN, I can remote stream through that and it's work
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works great.
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I have some issues with connectivity and I actually get in fiber again and so hopefully
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I'll be better.
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I can do like four case streaming from my games and stuff.
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Install SNAPD, refresh SNAPD and then install PLEX-HTPC, I don't do much of anything
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for the PLEX-HTP-HTPC client.
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I'm not super impressed with it and it seems to just work.
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I don't know who maintains it but thank God there's somebody that maintains a Linux client
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for PLEX because if not I'd have to use one of these crummy, you know, Roku's or a fire stick
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or got for a Google Chromecast.
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So a Samba of course for network shares makes it easy for my wife to upload stuff, to
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pull down stuff, pull down things that she's downloaded and then I have some Bluetooth
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notes, very crypt I use for someone crypted back up since stuff, Bluetooth I use for
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X-Box controllers and I had to install Bluetooth Blue Z, no space as Blue Z-Tools, RF
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KILL and Bluetooth control all one word CTL and it's a little little janky, the script
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that I have will actually restart the Bluetooth service because it seems to kind of hang
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and get squirrely out after a while.
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It's a really cheap dongle that I use.
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I also have to be careful about the dongles that you get.
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The one, I think the first one I bought was some new Fangle, new Fangle Bluetooth protocol
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that's not supported by Linux and it says it on the box, I think I still got it to work
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or I might have swapped it out and got another one I can't remember but essentially what
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the script does is it restart the Bluetooth server, the Bluetooth Damage so then you can connect
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back into it and re-sing the controllers and then it starts about 10 seconds and then starts
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up the Moonlight client so that both controllers are connected when the Moonlight client starts
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and then it can decide which one is going to be player 1 and player 2.
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So they seem to swap around but it doesn't bother me that much when I'm playing, trying
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to get my white to play stuff.
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That's pretty much it.
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There's been a few here and there's for whatever I need to set up automated backup
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to reach service so that each service's data, especially Plex gets backed up.
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Plex is actually, I don't have a ton of media, I just got like 220 terabyte or two terabyte
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drives or something like that, they're not that big so it's not entirely difficult to
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back that up but I actually backed up the whole entire root folder minus the mounted discs
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so of course so that gets backed up manually, never so often so if I do have an issue
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I'm only a month or two behind on whatever I'm trying to restore whatever so if you keep
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your boot partition minimized and your media separate the actual files separate from your
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boot then restoring becomes very easy because your boot is only going to be a maximum
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of 60 gigs and minus 30 right now and that's with a lot of it 20 gigs of it is just
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20 gigs of it is just like Plex stuff and I think the rest is the other half is like
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you know Linux and then lightweight except CE and that's pretty much it I really wish I could
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have fixed my problem with the hardware and done another upgrade but at this point I don't really
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miss it and it actually highlighted some issues I had with my backup procedure, my restore
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procedure for Plex needs to be fairly clearly backed up because you do not want to lose all
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your data around what you've watched and what you haven't, what playlist you've created for
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a program called Plex AMP which is the kind of music player for Android and there's also one
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for Windows so you know you don't want to lose those databases and pretty much on this server that's
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like the most important thing so the whole exercise had me learn one take your upgrade seriously
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and does it make time to understand them and make sure they complete and if you have any issues
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at all you knit them into but and we'll try to fix them over the internet while you're walking
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towards an event on your phone and just be like whatever I'll reboot because you'll have a bad time
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that's pretty much it. I'll say if you're you know hearing this is probably going to go in the
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reserve queue it's not super informative for general people but if you had issues around it in
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these things or you have any questions on each service I can go over one of the services but I'm
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pretty sure I've done a deep dive into the Plex box and the Plex setup maybe not so the the
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white stuff where they could say a stuff so that might be something I could do but I've got thousands
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of them other podcasts to do where you guys they're more interesting. Anyways take it easy
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record an episode teach somebody something and have a good one.
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