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+Episode: 4665
+Title: Pokémon GO
+Source: https://hub.hackerpublicradio.org/ccdn.php?filename=/eps/hpr4665/hpr4665.mp3
+Transcribed: 2026-07-31 16:16:13 (official HPR transcript)
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+This is Hacker Public Radio Episode 4665, for 2026-06-19
+Today's show is entitled, "Pokémon GO"
+The host is Lee and the duration is 00:13:16
+The flag is Clean, and the license is CC-BY-SA
+The summary is "Benno talks to Lee about an augmented reality mobile game"
+Hi, this is Lee, and today finally I'm with Ben A, who I Ben A?
+Hi, Lee, how are you doing? Are you good?
+We're out in the nature reserve called How Hill, and I think today we'll get a talk
+a bit about Pokemon Go, let me stop asking you this Ben A, how long have you been playing Pokemon
+Go?
+Well, that was a good question, I don't know, a few years ago, yeah, I start playing in 2016, I guess,
+when I was a bit hit, because my in-fuse and my niece, gold and 2016, I already met him.
+Well, they were much younger now, my niece is now a celebrity, so he was 20, so he was all-est,
+and then I played it, yeah, also because I, yeah, what I liked about it, because you
+really have to go out and go places, and I had been living in 2016, yeah, for quite a while actually,
+but yeah, it really gives you good opportunity to go places, right, so, and then I played it for
+2016, 2017, yeah, and I think even 2018 maybe, so that's been all we met before we met,
+so that I'm actually quite surprised, because I don't remember mentioning it before about a year or so, okay,
+is it before we met? Yeah, we met actually then, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, actually,
+because yeah, it also saved, and then every time you catch a Pokemon, it's, yeah, there's
+you even the location and the date, yeah, so has it evolved since you started playing it? Yeah,
+no, massively, massively, so it'll be nice, because I probably stopped, yeah, I don't have
+anything to do with it, so I think I stopped playing in 2019, and yeah, but I think you would
+be in on the walking craze, you like to count on your steps, and then at some point, that
+seemed to transition into playing bike. Yeah, well, actually, actually, well, so I've actually,
+because I played Pokemon before that, yeah, so, and yeah, that is actually nice, yeah, the steps,
+oh, that was the 10,000 steps, yeah, that was because of my work, specifically, yeah, because
+you're a support worker, you're taking clients, so, yeah, and then I got a bit or not really
+obsessed with that another step, yeah, and then I should have actually played Pokemon more,
+imagine, yeah, but I never, I never did, and then I never even thought about it, so it was only
+last October, I think, yeah, then I went back to Holland, that nice nephew, yeah, he started playing
+it again, and then I also opened it up, and then right now it has massively changed, really, so
+and it has been much more engaging, and there's so many more features, and yeah, this is also
+so many more, because yeah, what is the goal of the game, what is the end game, and nobody can tell,
+and the catchphrase, of course, you have to catch them all, but yeah, so now you can focus either
+or yeah, or you can do all, but yeah, some people are really trying to find something,
+but there's many different kinds, as they can, some people trying to get points, yeah, yeah,
+you know, because now what really may open up and what I really like, you can now pee, pee,
+play your first player, so now you can really use your Pokemon, and battle, and the
+something about this is, I think, if you remember the Tamagotchi, yeah, a lot, it feels a little bit
+like that, right, once you start playing, then he really get to know the Pokemon, that abilities,
+and then it gets more fun actually, yeah, so could we step back a bit, what the hell actually
+is a Pokemon in the story? I'll go to question, I mean, it started on Japan, I think now
+exactly, I've heard of Pikachu, exactly 30 years ago, did I guess, for now, not a bit longer,
+and then what was the card game, yeah, card game, and then, because, yeah, actually,
+also we didn't bought a few cards, and it's a big rage, and now the thing is, also it was on YouTube,
+because it was very popular for a little while, and then, in the 2000s, you could buy
+set, and it was worth nothing, and those same sets now ridiculous amounts seriously, and it will
+collapse most certainly again, and I'll go up it, yeah, just like the stamp collection or whatever,
+but, so I'm not that, yeah, I'm not in it for the money, but I still haven't played the Pokemon card game,
+but I did buy a set, I really would like to play the card game as well, yeah, eventually,
+but okay, I'm just now focusing on that Pokemon goal itself, yeah, and so, what I gather,
+the actual gameplay is you'll walk around and you'll discover things in the physical world,
+that geo-located in the physical world, that also in the virtual world, and then you all have a
+little tournament or competition, just to try and beat the other monster, and then, if you beat it,
+then it gets added to your collection, is that the general, the main mechanic of it?
+Yeah, they're just spawn, and in the world, and they're the game itself, that is separate,
+and actually, but I also saw now, because for augmented reality, you now have classes,
+that you can also play with, they are now still, they're like 200k, yeah, and of course,
+you can also do it on your phone, but yeah, then, it would be even more engaging here,
+we're sitting in this open nature reserve, in your in South London, in Surrey, and there's no
+one around, and presumably, if you switch on your app, and you look to around, you see monsters,
+like wandering around or just floating around, that you'd be able to
+answer, and answer, and answer, well, they're literally animals,
+cute little creatures, I think monsters, generic terms, from role playing.
+Yeah, but unfortunately, I did mean my chartch, that was on, but yeah,
+but when you don't have to play with augmented reality, you don't do use your own
+camera, you can just play it on fire, yeah, yeah, that's in general, you can't play that, yeah,
+I mean, because that, to me, the augmented reality is a little bit of a gimmick,
+It's not really same but also they have also integrated that much more in the game now
+Right because if you do augmented reality then you can feed them berries and then you can get the gift on them or
+a try to encourage you to do that right the main sequence of the game is you have this red and white ball
+And you fruit you twirl it and you throw it you know using a motion on your finger on them
+My well-fine and it goes and hits the monster and
+There's not just a wet and white ball, but okay, yeah, so you have the wet and white balls those are the basic balls
+Yeah, then you have to blue and white that's a little bit better and then you have to yellow ones and then a special tournaments
+You have even better balls as well and then also you can feed them a raspberry and or a pineapple
+So raspberry makes easy to catch and our pineapple kiss you extra points
+So that what you call modifiers they influence the success of your
+Yeah, so I have to make an extra choice. Yeah, if you if you've got a use dose or not
+Yeah, well, they might make it more rewarding if you win or that kind of thing
+Yeah, yeah, yeah, so in advance you have them then you also have the gyms the gyms are also very important
+So the gyms are certain places there are a bit sparse but that they're here and there
+And when you go to them you can either leave a monster behind or you can well you have to conquer the gyms
+Yeah, so you have three different teams. Yeah, they are ready yellow and blue
+So yeah, you can put six in and in the past so that's also because now if you put the Pokemon in the
+Real high that goes down quicker and people don't have a 3000 then doesn't go as quick
+And it will passively earn points for you for example if some other monsters have a fight in your gym and you're once just win that gets you points doesn't it
+Yeah, though it's like in the gym you can't you can't really win your or yeah
+Yeah, or that they lose
+So yeah, you have to conquer gym. You also
+Yeah, someone needs to attack the gym because that's what you get the points. Yeah, because then
+Depending how long you have stayed in the gym. Yeah, you can get a 15-boke
+Max for free if you put it in a gym each day. Yeah, and then poker coins you can buy
+Things like incubators for the X because you have X you can walk can buy so many things and also in the menu itself
+Yeah, you have different things if for evaluation you need yeah, it's really quite integrated and yeah
+And also now you also have power sports and you can also put them on this play and that
+Yeah, you didn't use to be there and I think that one thing that you found good was from your apartment
+You seem to have access to how loud of different
+Even a gym there's a gym within rates of your apartment
+Yeah, I have to go out to yeah, but it's really really near again. It's not that I can
+Control upon my apartment, but yeah, no, it's easy to get some
+Boke stops because you have to turn the boat stops to
+And to get the balls
+Yeah, so and what I now also really like so you can also walk roots right for the gyms also
+You get batches a lot of batches a little and just to clarify we're talking about walking
+We're talking about physical walking. We're not like walking like in the on the game. You're physically wondering around the streets
+Your hometown and
+Doing these things. Yeah, yeah, and also yeah, so and if you do new roots that is also specific batch or something so they really encourage you
+Oh look what a cute dog
+Hey, how are you?
+Yeah
+Yeah, and now and now you can also make your own roots. So that's my next challenge actually
+I'm gonna make roots specifically for cycling actually
+Hello, hi there. So I discovered the sort on cemetery actually it is on a hill
+That actually gave me the idea so I was cycling and I know all at the surrounding area and I know
+That I'm really quite well because yeah, I can cycling a lot and also walking a lot
+That yeah, I still discover a new path sometimes and specifically for cycling now all the episodes that you can make roots or yeah
+This is part of the game and yeah, so
+Once a month I would like to set a new improved and then just the roots. We're not showing game mechanic
+So you can yeah, you can make moves. Oh, yeah, you can follow it them yourself
+Yeah, you can also create yeah, yeah, now they have many pre-made other people follow the roots that you've made
+Well, the road I made yeah, it's followed. I made it like a month ago. Yeah, only by two people so far
+I think that they did but did give a five star race
+So this is kind of a social game as well. I think if tell me before you did actually meet up with people
+Yeah, no, yeah, yeah, you can definitely although I'm not that knit that because you can also trade and now also on a new future
+Yeah, you can even re-emote trade that
+Yeah, if people thought that would never come yeah, so you have to because yeah, you can exchange gifts and all the part of the game
+And then you can compare the fence and text by the effort
+After so many weeks actually then it become best fence and then you can trade also remotely
+I do know some people I don't have any specific close fence that that I know that play it so now
+I'm very much more ready to start trading because by trading
+Yeah, and you can get a little lucky Pokemon and because you have to power it up and it is lucky Pokemon
+You only need half the startups to something or I think it's half so that's also one of the features
+So now actually I'm hoping that I will find someone I can trade based more on a more regular base
+Yeah, no, like I said so I really like the play versus player
+And then you have three different get or you even have more with mainly sometimes. Yeah, you can
+Play with Pokemon and then the limit is 1500 or or 2500 or over and then you even have a little cup as well
+But that is for on-brush special occasions or something. Yeah, okay
+All right, well, thanks very much for telling us all about Pokemon guy
+I mean, would you recommend it to other people or who would you recommend it to?
+Yeah, no, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, especially yeah, does it cost anything to can ask that?
+Yeah, no, no, no, no, that cost anything. Yeah, it was cost time and effort and energy
+Yeah, but yeah, yeah, I can really recommend it especially if you want to explore a new place or you just move to a new place
+And it's a it's a very good way to
+Have a reason to go out. I like you just came along and had a dog to walk
+But if you don't have a dog to walk and you have a mobile phone walk your mobile phone
+Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and it seems like a silly game and it is but every game is silly, I guess
+But yeah
+It is not as silly as people think it is maybe and yeah, and also it's not as silly as it used to be not that it was
+I mean, yeah, there's so many more options now and yeah, and different status. Yeah, like I said
+It is you can focus on if you really like
+To harm them. Yeah, so yeah, or play the play versus play or yeah, yeah, everyone has his own
+Game. Yeah, it is quite fun, I guess. Okay. All right, that's all for today. Good bye from Lee and then oh, yes
+Goodbye
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