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Episode: 128
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Title: HPR0128: Misunderstanding Privacy Part 2
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Source: https://hub.hackerpublicradio.org/ccdn.php?filename=/eps/hpr0128/hpr0128.mp3
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Transcribed: 2025-10-07 11:51:28
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This show is a huge adaptation of the paper entitled, I've got nothing to hide in other
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things that are in by Day of Jace Alon, a link to this and other information available in the show notes.
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Hello, I'm Drake and you must it is Friday, it is 3.43 a.m. in San Diego and I know you heard my last
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episode on privacy, I know this, but I'm going to learn you something anyway because it's Friday,
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you ain't got no job and you ain't got shit to do. Okay that's only funny if you've seen the movie
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Friday, if you haven't it's kind of a funny comedy, it's on Comedy Central like once every week,
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I recommend watching it, but we are going to be talking about privacy and just as a heads up,
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I'm having a small recording issue or Kevin, my recording associate because of the prom over there,
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but we seem to be dropping audio every couple of minutes or seconds, I'd say seconds,
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so if that happens there's not much that I can do about that, but for the most part I'm looking
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at the spectrum graph thingy and it seems to be working just fine. Kevin's in the corner mocking me,
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it's the spectrum graph thingy, that's what I call it, but okay so privacy, many attempts have
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been made to conceptualize privacy, right, to try and locate the essence, trying to note the,
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what the core elements of privacy actually are, so we're going to be taking a look at just two
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of the ways and you can do this, we're going to check out the periodistic conception of privacy
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and the social value of privacy. Let's go ahead and start with the periodistic concept,
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that's probably what we're going to hit tonight, that's probably all we're get through tonight
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because it's getting rather early in the morning and I have things I need to do, so some attempts
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to define privacy have been too narrow, they've excluded things that we would commonly consider
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to be private, for example defining privacy in terms of intimacy, actually I have a quote here
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that I want to read in regards to that, can we get some of that, if you're just in the Discovered
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channel, we're going to strike the colonial people right in those notes and you could
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kind of wishfully trumply music in the background when they're doing the voiceover, we're doing
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something like that, Kevin. Oh yeah, this is good, yeah, I like this, I like your mind,
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I like what you're doing, I like the place you're going. I would, Kevin, I would follow you anywhere
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and the quote is, the content of privacy cannot be captured, focused exclusively, I need
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information access or intimate decisions because privacy falls off three areas, I suggest that
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these apparently desperate areas are linked by common denominator of intimacy, privacy content
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covers intimate information access and decisions. I like that, is that good? I was going for the
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dramatic effect of you know, philosopher Julie S, Julian Sess, whatever. The problem with understanding
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privacy as intimacy is that not all private information is intimate, social security number,
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political beliefs, credit card numbers, religious beliefs, all those are not exactly intimate,
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but in most cases, we reconsider them to be kind of private. Of course, you can say that intimacy
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could be defined quite broadly, though it merely becomes a synonym for privacy rather than in a
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library, so what privacy actually means, but that's not the point. On the other hand,
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some attempts to conceptualize privacy have been far too broad, right? There's a guy Samuel Warren,
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Wes Warren, Samuel Warren, who said that their privacy is the right to be left alone.
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All right. Well, what does that exactly entail? Many intrusions to, you know, your right to be left
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alone are not necessarily privacy invasions. For example, my dear Kevin, if I would to walk over
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and punch you in your face for messing around with iTunes rather than watching these levels on
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the mixer, I would certainly not leave you alone, but I would not be a privacy issue.
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What are you doing at iTunes? That is so exciting. Anyway, what's that? What are you doing?
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No, that's my theme song. Don't be harsh on that.
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Oh, because I'm Big Pimpin' Kevin. I'm Big Pimpin' up here in NYC. Actually,
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no, it's up here in SD because we're in San Diego because, you know, Drake headquarters
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are located in beautiful sunny San Diego.
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Dude, you're just on fire with the mixer tonight. I go ahead and stop that. We have to get back
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to the privacy thing here. Okay, meanwhile back at the point, any attempts to locate a common core
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of privacy like a common denominator faces a major dilemma, right? Because if you go too broad,
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you risk the danger of being over-inclusive or vague, and if you go too narrow, you risk being too
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inclusive. That was rather too restrictive. Too narrow, too restrictive. Okay, so here's a thought.
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Instead of conceptualizing privacy in the traditional manner, let's understand it.
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Blown your mind here as a family of resemblances, okay? Instead of being related by a common
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denominator, let's call it a complicated network. They're like overlapping and criss-crossing
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similarities. So, you know, sometimes overall similarities, sometimes similarities in detail.
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In other words, privacy is not reducible to a singular, help me here,
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essence, boom. It is not reducible to a singular essence. It is a bunch of different things that
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do not really share any element in common, but nevertheless bear resemblance to each other. Okay,
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that's the key. Resemblance, but no elements in common. And a great deal of attention has been
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expanded, trying to elucidate a conception of privacy without looking at the problems of
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actually facing, trying to fit our issues into a one-size-fits-all conception of privacy and
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neglects to see the problems in their four dimensions or even to understand them completely.
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And I am talking too fast until I get in. See, that's what you're supposed to be doing here,
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buddy. It's the rock star here. That's causing the problem. You know, the rock star, because
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I like to part out, you know, so hoping to get that one. There's a song called Party Like a Rock
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Star. It's the slogan to the rock star energy drink, you know, because you do know the
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nice music effects earlier. And there you go. I do party like a rock star, actually. That's why I don't
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party. I'm gonna slow down and I would try to finish up here, finish strong with good valid points.
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So, conceptions of privacy should not be there to confuse us. Think of privacy as an umbrella
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term for a web of related things. It cannot be purely defined. Okay, so if you can't have a
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pureistic value of privacy, what about a social value of privacy? We're going to go ahead and
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get into that in the next little mini series I'm working on here. The next episode is going to
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cover that. This one was kind of short though, but I have some things I need to take care of.
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So, if you have any questions or comments, let me know and drinkinubisagimo.com. I have a blog.
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I have to pimp that. It's my job at drakenubis.com. It's for all the cool people hang out.
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And we're going to go ahead and let's play the closing music and excellent. Great, great.
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Thank you for listening to H.P.R. sponsored by caro.net. So, head on over to C.A.R.O.
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Yeah, you know, it was kind of short-brown like that. I don't much care for this theme.
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I kind of like a change to the theme song. I think we'll try hard to talk about it.
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I don't know, it goes bust with theme or the theme song The Bible Man sounds pretty good.
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The Bible Man.
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No, I'm serious. It's the natural, you never ever showed you this. It's this guy.
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And it's like, it's supposed to be like a Christian superhero, like the, you know,
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P.O.L.A. gospel to kids of every, but it's like this comic with series, like this, you know,
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video game series and stuff. It's so hilarious. The funniest ones are the movie isn't at the
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end. It's just like the mini shows that are like a Christian broadcast and channels.
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And he dresses up in the sit that just did so fine. It's on YouTube.
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