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Episode: 400
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Title: HPR0400: Homeless where the heart is
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Source: https://hub.hackerpublicradio.org/ccdn.php?filename=/eps/hpr0400/hpr0400.mp3
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Transcribed: 2025-10-07 19:49:27
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Okay?
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Hello, this is Lost in Bronx.
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I have sort of an opinion piece for you today, and by you, I mean the non geeks out there
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in Listerland.
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Now this is a pretty techy show most days, or in fact almost any day, I'm not on it,
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but I figure there have to be at least a few people out there who struggle with Linux
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and other free or open source software issues like I do, and who don't particularly enjoy
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it.
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The struggle I mean.
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I'm not a problem-solver by nature, and I'm not especially big on community.
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A misanthrope is the word, I think.
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I hail from New England in the USA originally, and I'm an old-time Yankee in a lot of ways.
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I'm a cheap bastard.
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I despise places in the world that don't have four full seasons, and I'm standoffish.
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It's one of these things.
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I don't know you, and I don't want to know you, because I don't know you.
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Now there may be geeks listening to this about whom myself description also applies,
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but the fact is if you're a geek, if you're the kind of person who loves the kind of computer
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challenges that I despise, which is pretty much all of them, then you're nonetheless able
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to step right into the false community by showing your chops.
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You contribute code or pass along useful scripts or troubleshoot for people on mailing lists
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or the IRC and your in-baby, you're a card-carrying member of the community.
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Me?
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I got no chops.
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I can't do any of that.
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Oh, I can write some, but not documentation, for instance.
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How the hell can a person write documentation when they're embarrassingly ignorant about
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even the applications they've been using for years, let alone something new?
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Well, read up on it, you say.
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Well, if it was that freaking easy, I'd be doing it now, I say.
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And what if I could figure it out on my own, then what?
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Join the community, join the news group, jump into the IRC channel, post on the project's
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forums, join how, jump where, post what?
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And this last is the most important thing, because what I'm really talking about here
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is the barrier to acceptance.
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As a meritocracy, or so they say, false by its nature excludes the ignorant.
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Such is the key to unlocking that gate, but there are those out here, like myself, who
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are stupid as well as ignorant, for whom it will forever remain closed.
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Maybe that's a good thing, keeps out the riff raff with their raggedy old code and rough
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human opinions, or is that the other way around?
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Either way, are they truly welcome in the community?
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Maybe if they start their own project and attract a community of their own, they can
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find a place.
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Maybe they can put together a community around yet another Ubuntu respin, because, you know,
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we never have enough of those friggin' things.
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So the gist is this, I like my distros easy, I like my problems to be pre-solved, I like
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things who just work.
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For people who like challenges, there will always be the Gentus and the LFS's, so they
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can work hard all they want, learn all they want, feel superior all they want income.
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Kyle, software, all they want.
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Despite my scorn, the value of community is hardly lost on me.
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By definition, FOSS cannot exist without it, and by definition, to use free and open-source
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software is to be a part of the community.
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I mean FOSS developers develop for users, so the user, and therefore the user experience,
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is an endpoint, and I would hardly argue the high point of the FOSS community.
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One of the aspects of this community, which I value the most, is the inclusiveness.
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Certainly, this means people, and I'm mostly talking about people here, but it doesn't
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stop there.
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The de facto standard computing community on the desktop, and the one that includes the
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most people, therefore, is the Windows community.
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It revolves around revenue, as you know, and every motivation of the developers is to
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that end.
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As a for-profit company, that's to be expected, and even lauded.
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I mean, while the FOSS community, in general, may find some of Microsoft's business practices
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to be reprehensible or even occasionally illegal, Microsoft's shareholders have no cause
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to complain on this front.
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As the market leader in many aspects of computing, and as a large business concern, its duty
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is to its own shareholders, not to the end users.
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In the United States, that is, in fact, the law of the land.
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In theory, of course, providing a range of quality products entices the end user to
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spend money, and thus provides a return to the shareholders.
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But that is a business model, not the law.
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If Microsoft can retain dominance of the market, by whatever means, it can get away with,
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or not quality enters into that equation, then it has done its duty.
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You don't ask a shark to be egalitarian.
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You don't ask it to share the fish pie.
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It is a product of its evolution.
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It is designed to hunt, eat, and mate, and it's very good at what it does.
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We can admire their beauty, make movies about them, give them a sweep sweep spotlight on
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the Discovery Channel, and use them as a metaphor, as indeed I am doing right now.
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But none of that will keep them from biting your ass if and when they get it into their
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brains that you are prey, or a threat.
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They are what they are evolved to be.
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Now I'm an average boss user, I don't contribute to code or documentation, at least not yet.
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All I do is use the stuff.
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So why do I think about the connection between software, economics, and the moral obligations
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of enterprise?
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Because free and open source software is inclusive of ideas, as well as of people.
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You cannot participate on a boss form, even the technical ones I suspect, without being
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exposed to the questions of right versus wrong, value versus obligation, and freedom versus
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indenture.
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These are fundamental to communication in the boss computing world.
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And our concepts that the average Windows or Mac user is never exposed to, I mean it
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just simply does not come up.
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By using FOSS, we become involved in issues of freedom, safety, code, both source and moral,
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innovation, and variety.
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In other words, simply using this kind of software and searching for help online, brings about
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at least to some degree, the thinking and discussing of grand issues, issues of commerce,
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politics, and philosophy.
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And that, my friends, if I can call you such considering that I don't know any of you
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and don't really want to, because you know I don't know any of you, but that is inclusive
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for you.
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A type of software, community, and lifestyle which, by your very exposure to it, opens your
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mind to things far beyond computing.
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Oh, maybe not much, but the encounter is there, at the very least, and a deeper immersion
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only brings about a deeper appreciation.
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So yes, community, community, community, it's dynamic, it's inclusive, it's awesome,
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but it's not perfection on earth, because it's filled with people.
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People are irritatingly dichotomous, being both the key to and the crap within the community,
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community, community.
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And needing to find a hook or doorway to participate does not help anyone at all.
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Foss is the poorer for any lack of participation, and I'm not talking about know-it-all trolls
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who scream RTFM whenever somebody needs help, or the sadly ubiquitous switch delinx as
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a so-called answer to a Windows problem.
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Those people are juvenile obstructionists, not computer experts, and they do immense damage
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to the free and open source software movement.
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When you read about, or hear of such people doing such things, challenge them, correct them,
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and then hoot them off the stage, and if you're one of those people yourself, shut the hell
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up.
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As I see it switching to Linux, VSD, Solaris, or any Foss software is hard for most people,
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not solely because of the practical challenges of the software differences themselves, but
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also because of the moral and intellectual challenges that go along with it.
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So it's free software, isn't it?
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I don't have to pay for it!
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And in most cases, that's true, but of course, that's not what it really means, and you
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learn about that pretty early on.
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It's thrown in your face.
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You hear about it in forums, the IRC, and in the documentation itself.
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It's pervasive and stimulating, or not.
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Your choice.
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You can ignore it all.
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If you want, you can just use the software, because when your deadline approaches and
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you have work to do, or you really, really need this ancient hardware to work, you could
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probably give a crap about the big picture.
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At some point, though, ignoring Foss philosophy becomes an active concern, because whether
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your Linux and RMS is hideously deformed, though morally unassailable love child, or
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a staunch freedom hater mourning for the deliciously sensual experience of syncing your
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iPhone on Windows Vista, the fact is, you now know you have a choice, and with that knowledge
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comes power, and with that power, responsibility, mostly to yourself.
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Oh, there certainly are white knights out there surveying the Foss battlefield from
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atop their high horses who are willing to dub the rogue and nave for failing to file
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a bug report.
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But much of their outrage is affectation, and to the vast, silent majority of users,
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their advice is devoid of context, and therefore meaning.
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How many bug reporting tools are in use out there, and we're supposed to figure them
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out and use them all, and get our work done, or maybe we should just learn to do this
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for our favorite apps, or even just one of our favorite apps, or maybe we should just
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use the damn stuff without letting some ass-hat dump their moral baggage on us.
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How's that sound, because that's the choice I've made.
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Remember Old Time Yankee don't want to know ya?
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Well, we have another quality, minding our own damn business.
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For staunch believers, and religious, political, and cultural freedom, why?
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Because if I claim those things for myself, then I'm also claiming them for you.
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It doesn't work any other way.
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And from our point of view, an essential part of freedom is anonymity.
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We don't ask people about their lifestyles or the important choices they've made, and
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we expect this in return.
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Now, here's an example by way of analogy.
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I currently live in the rural Southwest, in an area where religion plays a large role
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in a lot of lives.
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This is an area of the country where at least some people moved to escape religious persecution
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or perceived persecution, and as a new Englander, I can get behind that, you know, with the
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pilgrims and all.
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One thing I wasn't prepared for though was how, upon initially meeting people out here,
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one of the first things they'd asked me is what religion I practiced.
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It's common.
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It's happened to me many times now.
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See, in New England, that kind of question is very offensive.
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You do not inquire into other people's religious views unless they offer them up first.
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And even then, detailed discussion is reserved for people you know well.
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It's very personal.
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I don't know what you believe, and I don't want to know.
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People here want to know where I fit in to their community.
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There's that word again, subtle clue.
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But from my point of view, I fit in in exactly the same place I did before they asked.
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And in fact, their new knowledge of my personal beliefs doesn't help me fit in any better
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at all, but it does make me feel that they are pushy, rude, and invasive.
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Because partial knowledge of a person leads to snap judgments there too, and no one has
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a right to judge my beliefs.
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And no one, including me, has a right to judge theirs.
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So people who make decisions about how I or you should participate in false culture are
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in that same boat as far as I'm concerned.
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Telling me how I can help make software or the community, community, community that surrounds
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it.
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A better thing is one matter.
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Holding me to that is quite another.
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Because maybe the way I participate, or not, is different from the way that they do,
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or don't.
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And my choice is a valid one, no matter what it happens to be.
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You don't agree with the way I do things?
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You believe I could do so much more?
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Well, that's fine.
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That's freaking fantastic.
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Keep it to yourself.
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Because what do they say?
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Opinions are like assholes?
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Everybody has one, and most of them stink?
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Yeah.
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Yeah, so there is a barrier.
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But I believe the good news to be that it's not as high a hurdle as it once was.
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In fact, much of it is simply familiarization.
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In the time I've been using Linux and other false software, I've gone from being a rank
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noob that people don't know, and are a little inclined to speak to, to a rank noob that
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a few people know, and are a little inclined to speak to, I call that progress.
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Actually, I tend to hang out in the more social circles of some techie areas of the boss
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web experience, which puts me in the odd position of talking out my ass almost every day.
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I do not know much, but I can grasp theory now when before it was all buzzwords.
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And that means I'm learning at least a little, and little by little, I'm a little less
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little.
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Sorry, I don't know what the hell I'm saying.
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Anyway, my point here is that I'm not a geek, not a computer one anyway, yet I've found
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places to be among geeks, peripheral bovose places are.
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That would have been simply impossible in days of your.
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The barrier to acceptance was high back then, and it rested on knowledge and participation.
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I participate some, yes, but my level of knowledge, though glacially increasing, is rudimentary,
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so I can only conclude that the barrier to acceptance is lowering.
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Now some of you listening might disagree with that, and some of you might agree but despise
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that conclusion.
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I, however, and naturally, find it a good thing.
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But what does that mean for the boss movement in general?
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It means inclusiveness.
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It means that something which, traditionally, has had a sour, elitist streak running through
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its core, is beginning to change and grow.
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All sorts are welcome now.
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That's good and bad, so maybe I should press on.
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I mean, as Groucho Marx quipped, I'd never join a club that would have me as a member.
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Yet I have, and I value it highly.
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My pitiful store of knowledge is yet light-years beyond what it was when I predominantly used
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proprietary software, and that has come solely from being an everyday user of the free and
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open-source stuff.
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I've had no formal education in it, and I've done far less RTFM-ing than I ought, perhaps,
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but exposure to this world leads to understanding, even if it's mostly incidental.
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So Groucho, though, I be, I'm a part of this boss world myself, it seems, and I'm a better
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man for it.
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So no, I don't code, I can tell you now, it simply cannot happen in this reality.
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I don't have the head for it, I don't have the patience, and I don't have the yearning.
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There are sections of the Linux and open-source world that will never be home, therefore.
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But no one does it all, so I'm not broken up about that.
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I like to contribute more than I do, well, maybe, depends, I mean, what are we talking
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about?
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Not documentation, as I explained before, who knows, maybe someday, if I use something
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a whole lot for a whole lot of time, I might feel comfortable enough to get involved
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in its development somewhere and contribute to its community in a meaningful way.
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Right, well, until that day, which may well be the same day, Satan by the parka, I'll
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paddle along at the usual pace and seek out my community, community, community, where
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it feels the conficosiest, thank you.
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That generally means a chorus of one, but at least I know the song, and it's not all
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about blundering in the dark anyway.
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I mean, I've learned to communicate better since using this type of software.
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I'm on phosphorums, and the IRC, I subscribe to a couple of mailing lists.
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There may be hope for this old Yankee yet, but if not, so what?
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I am better off than I was, and after all, isn't that the point?
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We use this stuff because it's better, and we want and need what's better.
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The infrastructure, the operating systems, the applications, and the knowledge how to make
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the best use of them all.
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Okay, inevitably, at some point, to some degree, that includes connection, people.
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Those same bastards, yes, can't get away from them.
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But maybe, it also means you don't always need to.
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No matter who you are, where you're from, or what you hold precious, if you use free
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and open source software, you have common ground with complete strangers the world over.
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You have something to talk about.
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You share trials and triumphs.
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You can work, play, and socialize using this software with people using this software.
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And at the very least, regardless of all your differences, you can talk about this software
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and the issues that surround it.
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You'll have that.
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It'll be yours to hold, and if you so choose to share.
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This has been Lost in Bronx.
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You can contact me at Lost in Bronx at gmail.com, that's L-O-S-T-N-V-R-O-N-X at Gmail.
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If you have any qualms, queries, questions, or catharsis to pass along, I am always happy
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to receive them, because, see, I'm just a pillar, pillar, pillar of the community, community.
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Take care.
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Thank you for listening to Haftler Public Radio, HPR Responsed by Carol.net, so head on
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over to C-A-R-O dot-A-T for all of us here.
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