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Episode: 416
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Title: HPR0416: Mer Project Interview
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Source: https://hub.hackerpublicradio.org/ccdn.php?filename=/eps/hpr0416/hpr0416.mp3
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Transcribed: 2025-10-07 20:07:26
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---
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intro music
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Everyone, this is Clat 2, I'm at Southeast Linux Fest, which is really, really great festival.
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It's turning out to be a lot of fun, lots of people here.
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And right now I'm talking to Andrew, who was carrying around in 810, and apparently has
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a 770 in his bag, so he's like all no-keyed out, and figured I should chat with him about
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this.
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So, Andrew, well first of all, thanks for talking to me.
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And the problem?
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And you are involved with Mer, Mer, what is Mer?
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It's a new operating system for the start off, for the Nokia tablets, and it's been ported
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to just about everything, from laptops to any other tablet out there.
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There's a whole list on our website, everything that is imported to, I think it's 13 or 14
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different devices now.
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You can actually boot it on your laptop even.
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That's really cool.
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So, I guess, I mean, is anyone using it, I mean, are you pushing it as a netbook thing
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at all?
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We're not pushing it as, but actually I booted on my EPC all the time, so it does work
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pretty good for that.
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Are you running it on either of your devices, that you're in XX devices?
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I do.
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And then mainly on my N810, it does boot on the 770, we're still working on it to get
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it more.
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Okay.
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Hope to speak.
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Okay.
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So, this is actually something I could put on my 800.
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Yeah, it's really simple and scholarly, just download the Mer and Staller from the regular
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MAMO repository.
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Oh, okay.
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And then just follow the program and it puts it on there for you.
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Wow.
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That's really cool.
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So, is it something I might have to flash, or put it on your car?
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No, you can put it on your car.
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Wow.
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You can do it in her car, or the extra on car, just click a different button on the program
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to where you want to install it.
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Wow.
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This is actually a lot more intriguing than I even realized.
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So, so this is, who is doing Mer, I mean, like where is this coming from?
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This is obviously not a Nokia official project.
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No, but it is, Nokia is really back behind this sportnet that they've opened up some
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of the stuff that was closed source, they made an open source for access to it.
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Very nice.
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And what do you think about that?
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We're working on using the more stuff open source and basically got started because the
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new operating system for the tablets won't be ported over to the new, to the old tablets.
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Oh, really?
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They're not going to port.
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So, there, Nokia is coming up with like an official one and they're not going to port
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it back to it.
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Yeah, it's, they said that it's too hard to keep an official update on the older tablets
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because of the new hardware and the new one.
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Yeah, okay.
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So, the community, hardly community started to just make their own operating system to run
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on the tablets.
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Wow.
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The community project, nobody's really in charge, we say we have a lead developer, but
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you know, it's all basically like mentor, like kind of leadership.
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Okay.
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So, how are you involved?
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I got involved because when we first started, there was no theme for it at all because all
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the themes are closed source, the ones that come with the tablet.
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Oh, really?
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So, I started off by taking one of my old themes I created for MAMA and redesigning it so
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that it would run on MIRR and since then we've completely re-changed the line up, the
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entire left bar on the user interface is gone.
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It looks more like a standard desktop, kind of like a way to space I always thought left
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bar was.
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So, we happened to design totally new interfaces on that, but the great thing about it is
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you can run pretty much any user-facing one.
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Actually, I want Alex to eat on it most of the time.
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Wow.
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That must be blocked for the fast, huh?
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It pretty much.
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You see, slow it down a little bit, but I prefer to run it and just go like the look of
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it.
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Okay.
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Flux box noise on it.
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Enlightenment.
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I have seen on one, I don't think it was in person, but yeah, I saw on it.
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I think it was Rastamann's blog, he had it on there and it looked really slick, so, yeah,
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cool.
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Is E17 is what they've got over there?
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It's the one, yeah.
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So, who's developing the applications for this, then, like, who's?
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A lot of it.
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We're just bringing over from MAMA.
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The great thing about it is pretty much the thing that was compiled already for Ubuntu
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on the ARM process was already run.
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Wow.
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You just have to install it.
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Now, something that I'll admit will run kind of slow because it's not designed to run
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on a slower process.
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Right.
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Okay.
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But I, you know, do word processing itself on OpenOffice all the time.
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Cool.
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So, you know, it takes it-
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OpenOffice is not exactly a small process.
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It is not.
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It takes a lot of boot.
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Once you get booted, it flies away, so-
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OpenOffice always takes a lot of boot anyway, so-
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Okay.
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So, okay.
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So, I can install it onto my SD card, start running it.
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There's no risk because I can keep the firmware flashed with MAMA.
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What about support for- like me?
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I do actually all my podcasting off of my Nokia.
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At least, like, the microphone does- does- does- does- does- do you know if it's out of the
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lock support for the microphone or is that not where it's being?
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Um.
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We're still working on the sound.
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Trying to get all the drivers in thing as far as for the- the Nokia's- we're working
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on getting it there.
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You know, the best thing is, you buy that can help with programming or that.
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You know, we always need help and not only that, testing is probably just as important
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as the actual- getting it programmed because-
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Yes.
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Are you using Bugsilla or are you got something on that?
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Well, you use Bugsilla and- because it's a- a MAMA community project.
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We use all their garage and we actually use their own Wiki for our website and all that
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stuff.
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Cool.
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So, what is the site?
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Wiki, or W-I-K-I-I dot M-A-E-M-O dot O-R-G, that's a slash M-E-R.
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Cool.
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With a capital M.
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That's a capital M.
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I forgot.
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That matter.
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It does matter.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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You think they've aliased, like, lowercase mirror and the capital mirror to the same page, but
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I don't know how Wiki's work.
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I don't know.
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Yeah.
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I don't know if it's Wiki.
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Yeah.
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Wow.
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Cool.
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Yeah, it's a really cool project.
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I mean, something about it in, like, a lot, maybe, probably your blog.
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He never knows who you're talking to at D-E-R-S, you'll think, oh, yeah, I've been reading
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your blog for the past year.
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But I really didn't- I didn't realize what it was, but now I think it's really cool.
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That's one of the big things is just getting the word out.
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So people start using it and start testing it.
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We release a new version in the four weeks.
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Cool.
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We're pushing to our 1.0 version.
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We're still in beta.
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Okay.
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But we're really trying to get there.
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What would you recommend for the internal card?
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Or the SD card?
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I mean, I guess you can do it on internal or external.
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But what size?
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Like, one gig is fine.
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Two gig?
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Uh, you can do it on one gig.
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It all depends on how much, uh, it's all for you when it's all in there.
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I'm sure you're going to be running an open office and stuff.
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Right.
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I probably have at least a two or three gig.
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Okay.
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Because some of the programs get kind of big.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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Cool.
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Um, I can't think of anything else to ask you.
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So, uh, thanks for talking to me.
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Thank you for listening to Half the Public Radio.
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HPL is sponsored by caro.net, so head on over to C-A-R-O-DOT-N-T for all of us in the
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