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+Episode: 550
+Title: HPR0550: Interview with jledbetter
+Source: https://hub.hackerpublicradio.org/ccdn.php?filename=/eps/hpr0550/hpr0550.mp3
+Transcribed: 2025-10-07 22:53:13
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+Hi everyone, this is Clat2 and I am at Self-Easling Express 2010 and I'm talking to Jessica
+Ledbetter, who is Java Developers at a fair assessment.
+Okay, so I'm just curious as to first of all what you do in Java.
+I write web applications for a National Accelerator Facility in Virginia.
+So mostly the business applications, so people need to payroll and write up time sheets and tasks and do adaptments.
+What kind of places is it's a continuous Electron Beam Accelerator Facility.
+It is a Department of Energy Laboratory.
+We study the nature of matter is the mission statement.
+We also help educate people about science and math, so area students will call them.
+We also do a Science Bowl with Department of Energy, so Middle School High School.
+Wow, okay.
+So you've got scientists running around like...
+All over the world.
+Wow, okay.
+But who's using the Java applications that you write?
+That's like more of the administrative science things you said.
+Most of the used minds are the staff, but we also have a lot of the users that use it too.
+So like when the application is responsible for task management system.
+So the head of the whole organization can make some projects and then assign little tasks out to different folks.
+But scientists tend to have their own...
+Yeah, their own.
+And the time for that?
+Perhaps.
+So why Java, I guess?
+A good question.
+Yeah.
+It's not necessarily language for me.
+It's a project and people are interested more.
+So when I interviewed for this job, I was actually doing cold fusion before.
+Oh wow.
+Yeah, so and that's not something I wanted to continue to do forever.
+I think we're that way.
+So when I saw that there was this job opening and Java, I like object oriented.
+I like thinking of things that way.
+But most of all, I wanted to get with the people.
+And the application sound kind of boring, but it's still solving a problem.
+Right, right.
+And so when people have these problems, they have all these things on paper and they want to do it better.
+And because it's such a small place, I can do the whole thing.
+Like design the tables, the database, coming up with the objects themselves, the back end, the front end, the UI, everything.
+It's pretty fun.
+Yeah, okay.
+Well, it sounds like you actually do enjoy it, which is really cool.
+So here's maybe a far out question.
+But like, so it's solving problems.
+So can you maybe encapsulate how you approach things when it, like they're okay, there's a problem.
+Like how do you know how to solve that problem?
+You know what I mean?
+I don't always know how to solve a problem.
+So another reason I said the people got me to switch over is I went from a developer team of two to now we have about five.
+So if I'm stuck and usually I draw things out and then I see the objects behind it and see the process.
+So I pretend to be the user.
+Okay, this is a problem now.
+What problems are the user having and how can I make it easier with writing code?
+And again, whatever language, but we do use Java.
+Right.
+And you're on the whiteboard.
+If I get stuck, then I can call one of the guys over and say, hey, what do you think?
+Right.
+And talk through it.
+Yeah.
+And then a good, the way that we're doing it now is iteratively.
+So I can do a few releases and see if everything's going great and if not, then we just tweak it and continue on a different way.
+That sounds really cool.
+I'm just adding curiosity, like what district do you run in real life or whatever?
+Good one, too.
+Oh, cool.
+And is there any particular reason?
+I mean, it was just the first one you stumbled upon or anything about Ubuntu, I guess, that appeals to you greatly.
+As much as I like coding, I don't like maintaining a server.
+I've heard this before, yeah.
+And I've heard a lot about Linux.
+I prefer to code on Apache on Linux type systems for web applications.
+I work at Windows, but this is what I prefer.
+So when I found out about this, let me check it out.
+And then the community knew it was amazing.
+The community is really incredible.
+Which is something you said you liked about work as well.
+So, yeah.
+Cool.
+So, with all the Java work, and I don't know much about Java, but with all that Java work, did you ever run into, like,
+were you ever into, like, Solaris or anything like that?
+Professionally, yes, mostly Windows and Java, but in college, you know, we ran on Unix.
+And that was C++ back then is what was taught.
+Oh, okay.
+So you do have that C++ Java connection.
+Right.
+And really are similar.
+Yeah.
+Thinking of things as objects is what some people have problems with.
+So, once you get that, then it's easy.
+And the scripting languages are pretty easy.
+You know, of course, like PHP, JSB, and co-fusionists can be scripty.
+Okay.
+Okay.
+Crazy question.
+Java is no more.
+It's been wiped off the face of the earth.
+What?
+Sorry.
+It's theoretical.
+What language would you be programming in?
+If I could learn a new language, the one that I keep hearing about
+and keep getting intrigued about is Python.
+Hmm.
+But I do also do PHP.
+Okay.
+But if I were to do something full-time, it would probably be Python.
+Cool.
+All right.
+Thank you for talking to me.
+Jay led better.
+And I'll catch you later.
+Thank you for listening to Hack with all the Gradio.
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+Thank you.