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Episode: 744
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Title: HPR0744: The Language Frontier Episode 5
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Source: https://hub.hackerpublicradio.org/ccdn.php?filename=/eps/hpr0744/hpr0744.mp3
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Transcribed: 2025-10-08 01:49:33
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Episode 5 is a small world.
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The world in confusion of the fact that no one speaks the same language
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but we're all communicating on a worldwide basis with tools
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that are incomprehensibly advanced
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is in stark contrast to Disney's iconic theme ride.
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.
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The face of entertainment is changing
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with many films and works of art responding to the very real desire
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for people to come together and find common ground.
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Countless books and films touch on this idea.
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But it's pretty hard to reach each other when we can't even understand
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what the other person is saying nor they us.
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The movie Borat illustrates this point, I think.
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Despite the self-titled premise, cultural learnings of America
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for make benefit glorious nation of Kazakhstan,
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it's actually a film in English and Hebrew,
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not English and Kazakhstan.
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Sasha Cohen is speaking Hebrew when his character Borat is speaking Kazakhstan.
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That's funny and works because so many people have no idea what Hebrew
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or Kazakhstan is sound like.
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Today, the people of the world have unprecedented access to one another
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and yet not only can they not speak the same language,
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they oftentimes can't even recognize what language the other is speaking.
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One thing's for sure though, subtitles and movies are actually becoming OK,
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which was unheard of 10 years ago.
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Just go to the multiplexer, turn on your TV,
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pans, labyrinth, apocalyptic, the TV show lost.
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American audiences, for example, that swore they would not read a movie
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or buying tickets for a theatrical experience in Spanish or Mayan.
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Some of these films with major cultural themes are making it all the way to the Academy Awards.
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Could this be because people are interested in other cultures?
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I got an email from a girl in Houston, Texas.
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It's about the subtitling that fans do and main movies.
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Dear language frontier.
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I love the show, it's very interesting and really hits home.
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As a fan of anime or Japanese animation,
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a lot of us miss a lot of great shows because they don't get translated from whatever reason.
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Some of us literally learn Japanese just so we can watch the shows
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and some people do subtitle sheets, fan subs, so other people can watch.
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But it's a problem and a lot of people are missing out on great shows
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because of the language barrier that's Kim from Houston.
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Thanks, President Kim.
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The information superhighway is paving the way
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and people that would never have encountered one another are face-to-face online.
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And entertainment, which is the great mirror of the world, is reflecting this phenomenon.
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Has this been happening since the next version of the web?
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It seems that each day that passes, this ad hoc infrastructure becomes more crystallized.
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What kind of infrastructure will it be?
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Will it be solid, or will it be weak and thrown together with gaping holes?
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Will it be lazily built, fly by the seat of your pants?
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Are we going to put some real effort and planning into it?
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The Roman Empire used a well-built infrastructure
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that was based off of preaching governing principles
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on top of a rock solid foundation of the Latin language,
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which endured for centuries upon centuries.
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Compare that with today's multi-national corporation, economic empire,
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and ask yourselves, what foundation is this built on?
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Does it have a unifying language?
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Obviously not.
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There's no standard.
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And since that is governing the planet,
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the lack of a standard is leaking into every aspect of our lives.
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The Romans had an elaborate communication relay system.
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We've developed an infinitely more far-reaching and instantaneous way of contacting each other.
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The global landscape has changed and transformed completely since the 1960s
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when the world population crossed into the 3 billion mark.
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The world population has doubled since then.
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It is a new world, and with new media like podcasts
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and digital information available for free in 24-7,
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we finally have an opportunity to know the people who share time with us on this planet.
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Obviously that wasn't possible before the digital revolution.
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That's exactly what we're talking about here.
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Language barrier in a time where we have unparalleled ability to communicate with one another.
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The irony is glaring, wouldn't you say?
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It's embarrassing, really.
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I'm surprised the more hasn't happened already.
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I mean, the idea that we can't communicate,
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it's so archaic in this day and age.
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We are in the advent of a communication revolution.
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The communication arena is exploding.
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You can actually watch this show on your TV with Apple TV.
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Anyone can put out a show and anyone can watch it on the traditional media in their TV.
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Oh, hi.
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In this episode of The Source, we'll be having our fourth in the series of Central Arity tutorials,
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this time talking about rendering and transcoding.
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From my kitchen at 3 in the morning, I'm Aaron Newcomb,
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and you're watching The Source.
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The world is getting so much cooler.
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The world is getting so much cooler.
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The world is getting so much cooler.
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We set up the device the most torturous computing experience ever created,
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calling the worst from Windows CE, Windows ME, and Windows MG.
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We code named the new project, Windows cement.
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The first operating system specifically designed to sync employee morale
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and weigh computers down like a stone.
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This is not just an entertainment, this is communication.
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Just by the fact that you're watching this show in a miles ahead of you,
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go out on the screen and ask people if they know what a podcast is or Apple TV.
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But what is the obstacle that's ever present?
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It's the language barrier, which is why we're doing this show.
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We're looking for solutions to help us deal with this formidable barrier,
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people collide with on a daily basis.
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What if the language barrier were to be eliminated overnight?
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How could that possibly happen?
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Well, the language frontier podcast was actually inspired by the movie Run,
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a film about a primordial language everyone can understand.
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Let's look at a clip from Run's Prescott.
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Run is about transcending language barriers.
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It's like a concept film, and the concept is that we all speak,
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we all have an innate ability to understand the mother language,
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like the Tower of Babel language.
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The film is a mystery type of a story.
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It's about the way we communicate with one another.
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It's about overcoming the barriers that stand between you and me and anyone.
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At the time when there was a lot of talk about oil,
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oil, water, energy, the secret meaning, the material sense,
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power, force,
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and the big power companies.
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We love to see all of them,
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and that was interested in the language that was shared between us.
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Our ancestors were possible together,
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and that all lot of the brainers,
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that had to be seen on the surface,
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where it was very commonality,
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the life, the emotion, the vision,
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the point of view of the run street.
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Trick or Treat
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I had to guess the car was clean and interested in that car.
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See, and now this over a copy, and he speaks French and German.
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And this fellow, he speaks German and Spanish.
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No!
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No one.
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He's going to ask the questions, and we'll translate them to you.
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Oh!
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No!
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No!
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Plano!
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Here's what!
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Therein lies a problem.
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And it's also tied in with geopolitical differences.
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Let alone going into the United Nations on any given day and looking in on one of the
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discussions they're having.
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These non-stop interpreters babbling in no one knows what they're saying.
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There have been studies put out on the difficulty of translating in real time.
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Translators face, lengthy periods of interpreting, confinement in the interpreters' booth, background
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noise, and awareness that major decisions may depend upon the accuracy of their work.
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Accuracy, that's the crux of this dilemma.
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The interpreter has to remember what has just been said, listen to what is currently
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being said, and anticipate what's going to be said next.
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One writer put it this way, and I'm quoting.
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As you start a sentence, you are taking the leap in the dark.
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You are mortgaging your grammatical future.
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The original sentence may suddenly be turned in such a way that your translation of its
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end cannot easily be reconciled with your translation of its start.
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Nimbleness is called for to guide the mind through this syntactical maze, whilst at the
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same time it is engaged upon the work of word translation, and that's from our Clement.
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It's surprising that once people started doing transcontinental telephone calls that
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a common language wasn't used.
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It's surprising, I can actually see how that would have happened, but for some reason
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it didn't.
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What can I say?
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And now it looks like we have an opportunity like that, but with a few more billion people
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participating.
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Then at the time of the transcontinental call innovation.
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From what I know about transcontinental calls, they were between Europe and the Americas,
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and that was it, and they were prohibitively expensive.
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Now with things like Skype, I-Site, Internet phone service, or voice over IP, podcasting
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or just online chatting, the world is listening.
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So a language like Esperanto might actually start to sound appealing.
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Think about it.
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Everyone learns one simple alternative language, and they can be understood by everyone else.
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Here's an interview sent in by a musician in Indiana who talks about collaboration issues
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he's having with regard to language.
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I do electronic music that's part of a rather obscure scene.
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I compose a lot using low-bit video game consoles and eight-bit home computers.
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I like the sounds.
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The thing is, I don't know a lot of people who do it, so finding people to collaborate
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is a rarity, and not that many people do it.
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It's definitely a niche form of making music, it's definitely a niche.
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Well I've been trying to collaborate with some guys I know in Europe that I met on my
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space, and we have the tools, the web, and many sequences that we can send back and forth,
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things like that, but we get hung up with communicating when we're trying to accomplish.
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They both speak a little English, but I speak no German and no Czech, so there you are.
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I mean they're the universal musical terms like Crescendo and Idagio, which are actually
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Italian words.
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There are variations on what those terms mean, so yeah, it's hard to communicate.
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Even though he can collaborate with these other people in Europe, which is a great opportunity,
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it's breaking down for them in terms of just telling each other what they want to do.
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How might this be different if they all even read just basic Esperanto?
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They're just writing back and forth an email anyway.
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Next week we'll bring it full circle and get into these universal languages we've been talking
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about, especially the most viable Esperanto.
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But it's falling out of the sky, out of the sky, because they drove.
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People rain, the rain is dry, out of the sky, because they drove.
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But it's falling to the ground, now we can't get up.
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There was a bad ball falling down, see our time's sped up.
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There was a bad ball falling down, see our time's sped up.
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Paper airplane, sailing by, out of the sky, because they drove.
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But it's falling to the ground, now they can't get up.
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There was a bad ball falling down, see our time's sped up.
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I'm on mute, I'm working basically for the language part, localization part,
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and I do the Asami's localization.
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Presently I'm doing in Rell, Fedora, Geno, Eddie, Mozilla, in Okunovs,
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and basically I'm interested in promoting Fedora usage.
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I like to see almost all the cyber cafes running on Fedora soon, and hopefully people will interact
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with localize interface as well.
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I heard that you just got accepted into the Konome project.
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Basically there's something like you need to have a coordinator shift for the Konome project,
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for the localization translation project issues.
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So just recently I got into the ICVS, X-rays, and the coordinator shift for the Konome,
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so this will actually basically allow me to free project submission into Chrome,
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or I'll get to the localization stuff, and I'm looking for it from a community members
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to communicate.
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A new speculative fiction film titled after one of the ancient Alphabet's rune poses the question,
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what if the language barrier were to be eliminated overnight, what if indeed there were no more
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language barrier on the planet?
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That's kind of crazy.
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Thank you for listening to Acre Public Radio.
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