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+Episode: 836
+Title: HPR0836: Jeff from No Machine
+Source: https://hub.hackerpublicradio.org/ccdn.php?filename=/eps/hpr0836/hpr0836.mp3
+Transcribed: 2025-10-08 03:15:39
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+I'm at Ohio Linux Fest talking to some guy from no machine.
+What is your name?
+My name is Jeff Feige.
+Hi Jeff.
+How are you doing?
+Pretty good.
+So I kind of read up on your data sheet about no machine and frankly I don't feel like
+I could even try to summarize it.
+So what is no machine exactly?
+No machine is a method for secure access to hosted desktops and hosted desktops can be
+anything from your personal desktop at your house to a cluster of desktops at an office
+or where a cluster of desktops is in the cloud.
+Nice.
+So it's a little bit like VNC or something like that perhaps?
+A little bit like Citrix.
+Citrix is a little more mature than us so they have more features set.
+A little like VNC, a little like Citrix, VNC is screen scraping technology.
+We are kind of piggybacking on top of X.
+Gotcha.
+Okay that's interesting.
+What does the NX stand for?
+It seems like your data sheet is talking a lot about no machine in X software.
+What is that?
+It stands for no X.
+So basically right, yeah so the concept there is that we don't have to do an X forwarding
+to bring applications back to your desktop.
+And this is cross-platform, correct?
+The server side is currently Linux only but the desktop side or remote side is available
+on Mac, Windows, Linux, so does cloud cross-platform.
+We do plan on having a Windows server piece out hopefully by the end of the year.
+Okay, not that anyone cares but the Linux server is fine.
+That's the low-hanging fruit, right?
+Yeah.
+Okay, so what, I mean, I don't know, I'm just a plain old user, I'm not a programmer, I'm
+not a big business, is this something that I would be interested in looking at or is
+this like sort of for the SysAdmin's out there with a bunch of stuff going on?
+It's actually both.
+If you use a Linux desktop at home, you would certainly want to look at it.
+If you want to access that desktop from somewhere, it is without a doubt the best way to do
+that.
+From the casual user to the SysAdmin who has a particular application, they may not be
+able to access from the shell remotely that they would want to bring across X to increase
+that performance or for an enterprise that wants to do VDI-type solutions hosting multiple
+of that stuff for multiple users.
+Okay, very cool and obviously the next question is what about security?
+What kind of stuff is, I mean, is this based on SSH or something or is it?
+We use SSH for our carrier protocol, so all of the security that's available in the
+SSH protocol is ingrained into our product from the get-go.
+Got you.
+All right, that's actually really neat.
+Is it free?
+Is it support?
+What's the model here?
+We have a couple different products.
+We have a free product that is available for downloads, free for life, download it, use
+it multiple two concurrent users and then our products go up from there.
+So we have supported products, so when you buy our product, you get a year's worth of
+support and it's a subscription-based product.
+Okay, so just to clarify, because all of a sudden this is becoming something that I could
+actually see some uses for in my day job, so just to clarify, if you didn't want to
+set up for instance a VNC on the server that lets people in, you could actually, as
+long as their desktop computer at the job has the support for no machine, then they could
+access that from outside, as long as you're like, okay, with the whole SSH thing.
+Absolutely, and you could even, even if you use VNC at your personal desktop, you could
+set up a gateway with our product as well, and proxy VNC, or you could proxy XDM.
+So if you have, you could set up one gateway, have 10 PCs behind, and proxy that XDM utilizing
+our compression, and bring that back to your desktop.
+And I don't know how much you can say about like the technique or the technology or whatever.
+I mean, is that part of how you do that sort of thing, is just like compress the heck out
+of the frames on the desktop, you know?
+Basically what we do is we break apart the active protocol, we break the images out,
+we compress them separately, so that's, you can select that level of compression too.
+We use JPEG and RGB compression for the images, and then we cache, and use some client-side
+prediction, and we use compression on the X stuff as well, yeah, it's over my head
+too.
+Yeah, completely.
+I have no idea what you just said, but it sounded really cool.
+Yeah, it is, it works really well, and go out and get it, man, machine.com.
+Yeah, thanks for the info, thanks a lot, all right, bye.
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