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Episode: 842
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Title: HPR0842: DJ from h-online.com
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Source: https://hub.hackerpublicradio.org/ccdn.php?filename=/eps/hpr0842/hpr0842.mp3
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Transcribed: 2025-10-08 03:22:08
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---
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Thanks.
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Hi, this is Ken Hearest, I'll camp a little bit and I'm here with DJ from TheHage.
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I'm a dog camp, yes.
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Can you tell me what TheHage is?
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The Hage is basically a UK publication online.
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We specialise in open-source and security.
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We've known for about three years.
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And we're looking at you.
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We hope to get more people reading us because we're actually focused on open-source.
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So, what sort of articles would I find if I go to?
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That's your website www.hdashonline.com.
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Primarily English articles, yes.
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Always in English, yes.
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We take content from our parent company in Germany,
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who publish CT and IX magazine over there,
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and do an awful lot of open-source and run various conferences over there for open-source.
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But in the UK, for example, a typical day.
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Well, let's look at the temporary area.
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We've covered the latest in Chrome.
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We have problems with the standard DHCP server,
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where you can actually bring it to a grinding halt.
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The latest version of K, my money.
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The fact that the Ubuntu 1011.10 is now definitely going to have Thunderbird on the desktop.
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Some news that you don't normally hear.
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Univentionally, I've just pushed up their first beta for their new server,
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the Linux-based server.
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And we come in, I said security, so we have things like the argument between Adobe and Google
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over how many bugs were in the last flash update.
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All right, yes.
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It's like, yeah, stirring it up there.
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We cover the enterprisey stuff.
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One of the big things we carry is kernel log,
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which is written by Torsten Liemhaus from Germany,
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which gives you all the information that you've come across
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in things like kernel newbies when a new release comes out.
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But, A, it comes out regularly,
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and B, we give you all the detail in a readable format
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for all the Linux releases.
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We have that on the day of release,
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with this new kernel release.
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Oh, fantastic.
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You have RSS feed, I guess.
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We have RSS feeds, the open-side, the security side,
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and the combination of both.
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We also have Twitter feeds, so you can catch us on Twitter
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at HOnline news.
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And you'll actually get the latest news that way.
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We also have a HOnline, which is where we pull up
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the really special stuff.
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So we are really easy to find.
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We also have email newsletters.
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If you haven't got time.
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All the school there.
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Old school, and yet somebody came up to me just now,
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and said he really likes the newsletter,
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because he let them get through all the news in one go.
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It's fantastic, actually.
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What sort of licenses do you release your content under?
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We retain licenses.
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We don't give away the content,
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because we syndicate them.
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Lots of it comes from other sources.
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But we're happy for people to take clips,
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if they talk to us.
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Fair use.
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Because somebody's got to make some money somewhere.
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And fortunately, we do come across people
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who do lift our content without asking.
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Yes, we suffer from that here.
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We want to be unhappy faces at them.
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You do have a small amount of advertising on the site.
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We have a bit of advertising on the site, but it's not obnoxious.
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One of our design things is that we know people don't like advertising
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sitting in the middle of their content,
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and we try to make it so that everybody gets a fair shake,
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and we're all about the content.
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We like people to get information
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without somebody being thrown by a flash,
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and they're sitting in the middle of a dog chasing balloons.
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With a pop-up window to take a survey, no doubt.
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Yes.
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No, no.
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We're very good on that here.
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We're running a survey at the moment,
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which does not pop up in any way.
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Unsurprisingly, and I think it even surprised the people
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we're doing survey with.
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More people answer it.
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One thing we love is that if we treat our readers right,
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they'll treat us right,
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because we like to give them information
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and not mess them around.
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We hope people like that.
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Fantastic.
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So what do you think of Oddcamp as serving your needs?
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Oddcamp is a great little event.
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We've covered it in the past, actually.
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And it's something that it's a proper community event.
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It kind of fills in where love radiolive,
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what was, which gives us the chaotic feeling
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that nobody's exactly sure what's going on.
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But it will happen.
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What is definitely going to be fun.
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Yes.
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And this one, you know, I've got to say,
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they've had a lovely venue for it.
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It was out of England, which is a big plus,
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because as some of us, we get you feeling a bit left out
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of the tapping in the north all the time.
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So it's so far away.
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The north is just, it's another country.
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It's actually something that we want to,
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you know, if you're in the north doing stuff
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with open source, do get in touch with us.
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One of the things that I didn't mention
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is that we do actually run a little thing
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called the Community Calendar.
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Regularly every month, which is the next month's events
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that we can find coming up.
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Fantastic.
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Actually, do you cover just the UK or...
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We cover UK and bits of Europe
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that people can get to.
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Because there are bits of Europe that I want to hear.
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But where it's within range,
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and you know, it's not a...
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You know, we're debating whether to actually put Prague in there,
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because we've got the Linux conference Europe coming up in Prague,
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which is like, it's going to be a long train trip
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for a lot of people with a dog and a fly.
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Yeah, but a squeezy address or flying in all sorts of things.
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So, if you actually pull up our calendar here,
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you'll see that we're covering details like
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the Python conference, Python UK,
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because it is actually on,
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up in Coventry,
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and we're mentioning the BSD conference,
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which is running in the Netherlands.
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Which is cooler, too, because I didn't even know that was on.
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There you go.
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So, you see, education already.
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Yeah, but we also cover things
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like a few bits going on in Manchester,
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and there's a camp in our calendar for this month.
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Fantastic.
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Yeah, we light-cated for the more technically minded as well.
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So, yeah, if you look here, we're talking about
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a lot of technology-oriented things,
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not just the free software,
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philosophy or anything.
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And we'll take a critical eye to things.
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For example, one of our features running at the moment
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is a look at how the Linux desktop has failed.
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Yeah.
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And what a community could do about it
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by working together,
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but on neutral territory.
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Yes, OK.
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It's, it's, it's, it's...
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Well, the other side of you come and say, imagine.
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It's...
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If, you know, if the Linux desktop had succeeded,
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then we'd walk into a business
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and you'd see Linux desktop everywhere.
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But we don't.
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And part of it's down to the fact that
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everybody's relied on commercial companies
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to produce that Linux desktop to take out there.
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Yeah.
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And, and put in.
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And what's easy to start relying on a commercial company
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to put free software out there,
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you have a problem,
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because you're relying on their commercial success,
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and as soon as a company gets commercially successful,
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they can turn into the bad guys,
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or the perceived as the bad guys,
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for instance, the little Ubuntu.
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It's...
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Yeah.
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That's, that is a fair comment.
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And...
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That point you lose the community,
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as soon as they've lost the community,
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they end up in a situation
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but they can still do what they've done.
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But it doesn't have the impetus behind it.
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Okay.
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And one thing that we...
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The article looks at is the idea of creating,
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either within something like the Linux Foundation,
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or one of the many organizations,
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creating a foundation for desktop Linux,
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which creates a community-based desktop Linux,
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which uses the reference.
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Yeah.
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No was there,
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but no people lost faith with no.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And if you build a consensus-based desktop,
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then maybe everybody can actually get behind it.
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But you're so wrong!
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What?
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I use KDE, so I don't want a unified desktop.
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And I would argue that Chrome and...
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Sorry, Android is doing that in...
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Because it doesn't give you a desktop.
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Chrome?
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Yeah, but Chrome...
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Chrome may do that.
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Chrome asks you to...
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A browser.
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And it's just a browser.
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You make a lot of points up.
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And that, and more interesting topics,
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will be available as www.htheletterhotel-online.com.
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Thank you very much for the interview.
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I really enjoyed it.
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And I hope you have a lot of success and fun here.
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