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+Episode: 857
+Title: HPR0857: Sam Tuke - Free Software Foundation Europe
+Source: https://hub.hackerpublicradio.org/ccdn.php?filename=/eps/hpr0857/hpr0857.mp3
+Transcribed: 2025-10-08 03:39:04
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+Hello everybody, my name is Ken Phalan and it's the two of Alcamp and I'm here with the
+Free Software Foundation Sandtook.
+Free Software Foundation Europe.
+And what's the difference between the Free Software Foundation and the Free Software
+Foundation Europe?
+So FSFE, the Free Software Foundation Europe is the sister organization of the FSF and
+we're based in Europe, we tend to focus more on European issues and we have a base in
+several different European countries.
+We're in regular communication with the Free Software Foundation in the States but we
+are independent and European Sandtook.
+So I imagine the legal ramifications have been in the UK as opposed to Germany as opposed
+to the Netherlands because there's a bit of a problem when you come to talk about free
+software.
+In terms of fighting legal battles in Britain, yeah absolutely, there are different concerns
+in Britain for instance because we have laws which affect, for instance particularly
+procurement in public sector and different policies and approaches that our government
+has which isn't necessarily affected by policies in Brussels or policies in other European
+countries.
+Our European base, we have an office here in Manchester, we try and keep a close eye on
+particularly threats to Free Software in the UK and try and raise it on political agendas.
+We've been in discussion with the home office in the last couple of months about changes
+to procurement policy for instance for government departments here in the UK and we've helped
+to write a document called open source options for government which hopefully in future will
+be used by UK public bodies as a guide for choosing free software alternatives to typically
+use proprietary software, everything from databases to document management to collaborative
+tools and so on and so forth.
+So what's the main role of the organisation?
+In Europe as a whole?
+Yeah and in the UK.
+So we fight for awareness and use of free software in as many ways as we can effectively and
+that covers a pretty broad range of activities as you can imagine.
+There's a lot of community work, we have local groups in cities that meet regularly and
+focus on issues in that particular place like contacting local councils for instance in
+Manchester, I've been in contact with candidates at the last election for instance trying to
+get free software discussed and again become more of a political issue on a local level.
+And also we've had a lot of people contacting us community members lately about things like
+library closures and how free software can be used to buy by library services to improve
+outreach for less money or improve the services and the materials that are made available
+by a local library by using free software services and things like that.
+And also as I've been mentioning earlier it also involves a lot of procurement stuff both
+in Britain and particularly to European level where we have representatives of FSFE more
+or less permanently stationed in Brussels who are working with the European Parliament,
+working with the European Commission, often being involved in high profile court cases
+related to free software in different European countries.
+We were recently in court over this case of AVM versus SIBITS which was quite a high profile
+case occurring in Germany in which the GPL was effectively being threatened by a company
+claiming that another company wasn't allowed to redistribute modifications that they've
+made to the Linux kernel and we were working with GPL violations.org and we had representatives
+in that case trying to achieve the best outcome for free software effectively.
+So it seems to be more a political organisation than a legal organisation?
+Yeah, well we have a legal team called the Freedom Task Force and that's actually the
+biggest network of free software related lawyers in the world and we have that group, that
+part of FSFE has events and conferences so we do focus on legal issues a lot but it's
+the politics, it's all about freedom basically for us and that is a political issue and we
+try to raise it wherever we can.
+So with a lot of people listening from across Europe I guess as well, I live in the Netherlands
+so can I join your organisation?
+Absolutely, absolutely, in fact anybody from any country globally can join the organisation.
+Free software foundation Europe has quite a few members from the United States actually
+and different people have different motivations for joining FSFE when they're not based
+in Europe but I think there's a lot of people who are very keen to see things like software
+patents not getting a firm hold in Europe even when they're not living in Europe because
+they know it will affect them, people they know and their work especially if they're publishing
+internationally which most software developers do of course these days.
+Okay, fantastic and how can I help, how can I contribute?
+Well joining our Fellowship programme would be the best way.
+We have 1000 Fellows approximately in Europe right now all over the place and when you're
+a fellow it's just a great way to support the organisation and become part of a community
+of software activists effectively.
+Some of our Fellows don't get involved at all with local activities they just want to
+be able to support the organisation with a donation but some of them get heavily involved
+and have their own business cards from FSFE, organised local groups campaign locally.
+We have a campaign called pdfreaders.org which is about trying to raise awareness of alternatives
+to proprietary software readers and also raise awareness of the fact that pdf isn't open
+standard.
+It's an important issue particularly for government documents and so on and that campaign
+was originally started by a Fellowship group not by our organisation centrally and that's
+a great example of how individuals can work within the framework of FSFE to promote freedom
+and we really encourage that.
+Okay fantastic.
+Can you give us the link for your website?
+Absolutely fsfe.org and if you're a UK listener then fsfe.org forward slash UK there's
+UK specific news and events on there and there are other community teams as well so wherever
+you're from have a look see if there's news particularly relevant to you.
+Okay thank you very much Sam there will be a link in the show notes to this episode
+with all the sites that we've talked about today.
+Okay thank you very much and tune in tomorrow for another episode of Hacker Ball.
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