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Episode: 898
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Title: HPR0898: 2011-2012 Hacker Public Radio New Year's Eve Part 8/8 (The After Show)
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Source: https://hub.hackerpublicradio.org/ccdn.php?filename=/eps/hpr0898/hpr0898.mp3
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Transcribed: 2025-10-08 04:35:49
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Howdy folks, this is 5150. What you're about to hear is the result of me starting a mixed-down
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recording in mumble when Poki said he was about ready to stop recording and go to bed.
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While it's all pretty tame, it's not entirely safe for work. I started recording sometime
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after midnight central time, and the original file shows that we talked for another two hours
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and 15 minutes. However, leading the pauses brings it down to about an hour and a half.
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At the end, it's just me and Cobra II proving that as in real life, I never know when it's time
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to gracefully leave a party. Among the other voices you will hear are Poki, Delwin, J. Newster,
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Delteray, Door-door Geek, and I thought it was especially cool when the world wrapped around,
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and Ken Fallon came back here after having gone to bed the night before. I didn't have the foresight
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to make note of all the handles active in the room, and the festivities of the evening did not
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enhance my recall, so I apologize to those I have overlooked. With the help of the community,
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I hope to get you properly credited in the show notes, even if it is after the fact.
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I regret I wasn't able to participate, or listen to the entire 13-hour scheduled recording,
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and since I'm speaking to the future, I'm sure I'll be enjoying those missed hours, even as you
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hear this. I want to add my voice and gratitude and congratulations to those who organized and
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participated in making this event a success.
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I think I need to get to bed, or at least
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go home all my way for a while, so I'll be back later if y'all are still there.
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Yeah, I'm going to kill the stream guys. Thanks for coming in, Door.
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No problem at all. We were where my mother-in-law's house took my two kids and my nephews out
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back with pots and pans, let them bang, and once they were done, I said, come on, we gotta go.
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That's just tired, tired, running around.
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Hey Russ, if you're listening, I always want to say howdy to you, and occasionally see you in the
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Linux basics, but you never talk in the room. It shows a little bit late form, he gets tired.
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I know the feeling. So, Door, what is this, um, the new radio,
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Matt, what is that? Tracey Holtz went into his own pocket, purchased a service,
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and he wants to basically start up like an internet radio station of replaying podcast,
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broadcasting, other people's podcasts live, and having a little bit of original content.
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Right now the site looks like something from GOC these days, but it's going to change.
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Well, it's a great idea. I'm just programming it.
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I've traced his, honestly, I'm not sure.
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Well, we were talking earlier today, where their hacker media was still going, which is
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replay stuff from BenRav, which HPR makes up the lion's share, and I think everybody involved
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with HPR, if that's not still going, would be glad to see that content.
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Played in a venue, where it was just going all the time.
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They do a similar thing over on Linux outlaws, where they've got their
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feed running all the time now, which makes it easy to lock onto before the show starts,
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but they're just playing the same song over and over and over again.
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It's a good song though. Yeah, I agree with you there.
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Gotcha. Tracy, I mean, he gave me the admin passwords and everything, but he said he wants
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to do something with this site. He adds in mind, and with the content, he basically asked me,
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asked anybody I want to, who I think would want to do some kind of show about, give us a idea
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for a show, even if you don't want to do it yourself, and then like, you know, pitch them to people.
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But he does think at least in the beginning, 90 plus percent of the content is going to be
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rebroadcast from other places, and even when we hit full, like, you know, stride, still going to be
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easily 70 percent is going to be re-played content. Is there going to be an ice cast server or
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something like that you can actually listen to it on other devices?
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Yep, there already is an ice cast, a shoutcaster I cast. It's one of them.
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And I can see people looked at the source of the page, took the stream feed out and put it into
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VLC or totem. I didn't go that far. Yeah, but fine for me, just to
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just listen to it on a different one that had the feed already there.
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Well, I tried to plug it into VLC, but I was working on my old HP tablet that has a
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transmedia processor and VLC code won't run on it. That's us.
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Yeah, it's good to run with this sort of a netbook. You guys all amaze me with all of the
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technology and the new things that you come up with every week or so.
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Not me, all my stuff runs on old garbage.
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Well, I just mean starting a new deal station and having tons of podcasts coming out of
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your ears and stuff is just amazing. One thing I want to complicate out today, and we've got
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the chance to can because people like me are getting content to them. He's picking up all these
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other great podcasts and playing them, and now I want to start listing those podcasts,
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and I can't keep up with the ones that I have. I agree.
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When you already listen to 50 podcasts, how can there be a 51st one to go into your queue?
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I don't know, but I want them all. I thought I thought I was aware of all the great Linux
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casts, and they're just two or three really good ones. Those Sunday morning guys that have
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been on there a couple of times are really good. Comber two, I saw you light up. I'd absolutely
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none of that. Over two, your audio is gone. You can see you light up, but there's nothing coming
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through at all. Hey, 5150. I don't know if I ever publicly thanked you for your help last year,
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during the whole sticker drive, sticker campaign. That was another idea that would have
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withered on the vine and died if it didn't get support, and I'm pretty sure you were the first
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guy to step up and help out with that send me a check for some money. That's, yeah, that was for
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real. I don't know if I ever publicly thanked you for that, but I certainly could mean to several
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times, because it made a big difference to me knowing that somebody thought the idea was a good
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one. Oh, I'm sure you did on one of your podcasts. I know Ken acknowledged it on least
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monthly wrap-up podcast, so that's morning sufficient. All right, good. I keep wondering,
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every once in a while, I'll think about it. I wonder if it's gone unsaid, and I don't like
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things to go unsaid if I can help it. No problem. I want to start, I might want to start
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to thinking of a new design. I've only got two stickers on the back when I open my pick up,
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and I can still see it. All right. Oh, man, that's one thing I meant to say to
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to go phenomenal too, is it? That's the two things on it. Well, there's three things on that
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netbook that I have on a little EPC. It was an HPR sticker, a good new sticker, and CrunchBang.
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Yeah, how cool was that that he popped in there? That was really cool. That might be
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by highlight of 2011. Can you hear me now? Yeah, you're back now.
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Well, I've been trading your stall over. I sent a... Oh, door can tell me who it is on Linux
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Basics. It's escaping right now, who made up the Linux Basics sticker. So I got those,
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and I sent a few along to Knuckle to distribute over at Ohio Linux Fest.
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Oh, I've got to give me a Linux 6 sticker. That could be, that could go on either one of my laptops.
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I got a guy in Hawaii named Jonas R. I actually did one time PayPal money. He got mad and
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paid out of back to me. He said, anybody who wants stickers, just contact them, because he
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worked at a place that makes stickers, and his ball set, as long as he's the top producer,
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he can take the runoff and do what he wants to with. That's wicked cool. Can you email that to me?
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So I'll have it tomorrow and it won't get lost in this fog. Yeah, I know I have it on the
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forums. I just got to find it. That's so cool. Yeah, I can give you one.
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Yeah, I thought I'd tell me about that a few months ago, Poking. In any case, he already has the
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PDF of the oval stickers that you sent me. Sweet, sweet. Yeah, maybe you did. I don't remember.
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It's I'm so embarrassed because until this week when Dore and Bruce got to me, like Linux
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basics was like a thought in the back of my mind that didn't I didn't associate with anything.
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I wasn't sure what it was and they invited me to come on the show and yeah, holy smokes. It's
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such a good show. I got to know how I've missed it this long. Yeah, I stopped listening to Linux
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podcasts and then I listened to that and I started to listen to a whole lot of them after that.
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Yeah, there definitely were a few a couple of Linux podcasts that made me want to stop listening
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for a while, but I'm not going to say which ones with any recorder going for share.
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Yeah, and the gimmick is Linux basics really is the brain child of a knucklehead tech and a
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John new new us that are Josh pays for everything and won't take a dime for me at least.
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And John does every bit of sight admoning that is needed to be done and he does a fantastic job.
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I'm just the guy that gets hit in the face with the pie when someone gets mad.
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Yeah, I tell you, I got I owe it to Russ the techie geek for hooking me up on all the great
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podcasts. His was the first useful Linux podcast I found I'd done certain because I'd been in
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the podcast. I'd listen to some gaming podcasts. I started looking for stuff on Linux and
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closest thing I found were a bunch of Scottish guys who got really drunk and talked about ruby on
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rails and they were they were really funny, but I'm not it wasn't anything I was really into and
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I was sort of getting in the desperation of finding a Linux podcast that would while I was
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first starting out that would tell me any information I could really use. And then I listened to
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to Russ and from there I found bad apples and and HPR and Linux outlaws and short order and
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that kind of straight me out. Yeah, right on there's there's so many good ones.
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Anytime anybody mentions bad apples or do all the order now it's just it's shocking to me how
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good that show is that you know caught who can just row together or at least he makes it seem
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like he's just throwing them together you know he's got just a little portable recorder he's not
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real bothered about the sound quality and he puts out some of the most astonishing content that
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you know even if the world knew about it they probably just ignore it and pass it off but if you
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if you listen to it it's like some of the best stuff on earth.
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Yeah, well I just wish I could develop that all that he and all some of the guys
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have you ever pulled down any of the the older episodes from like the today with the techie feed?
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No, I didn't I didn't even know that existed until it was gone. I have all of them.
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Yeah, I should go back and listen to them but if I could ever catch up on the parent podcast I would do that.
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Well, I was gonna say the whiskey was interrupting my brain cells. No, I wish I had the talent of
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Clot 2 and Dave Yates and Mr. Gadgets just to be able to start expounding on a on a topic and
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appear to be area diet you know for 30 to 90 minutes of the time because I found I just can't
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do anything unless I make up a script and and or an outline and sit there in front of audacity so
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when I mess up I can go back and erase it because I tried all last winter to sit there with a
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sense of clip while I was doing other things working on an engineer feeding cattle or something
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and try to record a podcast and always be all I said that wrong I I didn't remember the really
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clever way that in practice I was going to say that now I've got to go back and I always thought
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if I could get all the way through podcast and make it the way I wanted it then I could save that
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if I had to go back and count pieces where I needed to go back and say something differently
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than it would take more time in editing then it did record in the first place.
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I've only recorded a couple podcasts but I found that it's easier for me just to say like a
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couple lines and then stop and then go again. It's not bad at all it's really good thinking.
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I just think it's funny that you said that Dave Yates was area-dite in his own way he is
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he may be able to translate Fedora into southern but what he says in southern it really is area-dite.
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Yeah I miss his podcast I wish he drove some more out there. Yeah I do too I miss it I really
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think that his show was really good really I'm in great and I don't know about area-dite but
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yeah he's very smart and he can tell you what he knows. Yeah keep it in between the ditches.
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Yeah and he's got one of the classic like all-time best HPR episodes when he did the
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April who will show where he drove off the road. Well I've tried to do that with while driving and
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all you hear with me and my old trucks is a bunch of wind noise and rattling and creeks and
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backfires and engine noise and such you never hear me. That's music man it's background music.
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That's the mood. I tried it once when I had my civic and all you can hear was the fart knocker exhaust.
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All right guys I got to actually get off here and finish editing a podcast before I get more
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threatening emails. If you guys didn't see before he leave door one that I have been recording and
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I don't think anybody said anything that would cause them embarrassment or anything and if they
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did it for HPR I'll keep it if they don't uh that's you know that's fine too but I just want to
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warn everybody like they tell you that this phone call is being recorded. Got you got you.
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Well happy new year door and everybody else probably head out too. Yeah we're done. Happy new year
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everybody. Thank you guys I'll talk to you guys later. See you door happy new year. Yeah keep up
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to good work door. Thanks guys and I'm going to try to convince Tracy to record a episode being him
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tomorrow for her. Wish me luck. Good luck. Too late. I say that all the time. Wish me luck.
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Nobody ever does. I tried to get them in time. Good luck on editing that podcast. Oh man
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I don't even know what I'm going to do. I made just you know literally speed it up to 4x and wait
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for laws in the conversation and just clip it at that point and put it up as is because
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that there's not my backlog of editing of podcasts that is huge already.
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See there you go there's another um you have to edit out. Balls.
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Just screw editing just chop it up into our segments and post it. Yeah that's about what it's
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gone to. I don't think it'll be hours but it'll be yeah just just waiting for pauses in the
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conversation that's now I'm just going to clip it there. It's the only the only bit of editing
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that I'm going to do is um and I don't know if you guys noticed when the server would clip
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somebody off mid sentence and then as the the traffic found its way to get to you
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let you clip it mid word and the traffic you get to and the guy would light back up again
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and the word would continue right there. I may try to put those back together
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and I will have to sync up the audio because multi-track mumble gets out of sync
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maybe half an hourish. Well I noticed I'm probably just on my hand when we're talking about
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gaming and Dan was in there and I'd lose him for like 30 seconds of the time and it would
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always plug back in and at the point where he left off and I was amazed when I joined back in
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and started talking that you guys weren't half an hour ahead of me someplace.
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Mumble seems to do pretty good for even stuff in sync. Yeah it does pretty good keeping it in
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sync but the recordings get out of sync. It seems like anything 30 to 45 minutes you'll start
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noticing that people are talking over each other in the recording that you don't remember talking
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over each other um you know during the live stream. I had this dream play in uh in the background
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the entire time or the entire time I had my stream going and I noticed like during some pauses
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everything would just catch up and everybody would talk all over each other. Yeah I had that too
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well earlier in the afternoon when we were all trying to talk at the same time and then everybody
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would pause and wait for somebody else to talk and everybody decided to hit their key at exactly
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the same time. It may be thank we need to incorporate in the mumble the same sort of random delay
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that's uh in the entire ethernet protocol so that when you have a bunch of people in the room you
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hit your key you have a random random delay before you can start talking. That's so bizarre I had
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the exact same thought that when people when it was working part when mumble was working perfectly
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and people noticed that they were talking over each other that's exactly what happens is
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everybody lifts off the key and uh I mean unless they're like deep into a point that they don't
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want to lose but pretty much everybody lifts off the key and there's a random pause until somebody
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keys up again but yeah I I had the exact same thought people it worked just like the internet in that
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scenario. I wonder if Gorkon could lay off the mic on mumble. You know I had a really evil thought
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the last several days to mess with Poki we needed a Gorkon soundboard to plug in here.
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Oh that would be so mean. How did you how do you mean you wonder if you could lay off the mic?
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What do you mean by that? Uh he he's a conversation controller and doesn't like silence like
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he's fine when you're talking to him face to face but like he's uh oh I'm sorry you said Gorkon
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I'm sorry no I was I don't know it's late and I've been drinking I was thinking somebody else
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didn't get it at all yes now I absolutely get it. No well I apologize I got no issues with him or
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nothing just controls the mic a little bit. Yeah I I'm not a fan. No we went to bed Kim. Uh that's
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good it'd be like absolutely ridiculous to be still over this hour. Yeah if you even knew it's
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like one thirty over here I'd be insane to be still up emailing people and thanking them.
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How did it go? Unbelievably well it was absolutely horrible everything crashed.
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Difficult HPR has opened. Well that did happen too but it was still good.
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So what are you going to do with him? Sure are we going to release this thing?
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Uh sorry man Mike died just as you keyed up in my head let's set can you come in my wireless
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that can you repeat that? So how are we going to release this? I'm not entirely certain yet
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I agree with the uh you know get cut it and put it out with all the warts and stuff in it for
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the most part but I do have to sync up the audio because it does get out of sync. To be honest
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poke what I think you should do far be from me tell you but is use the single word of the mixed
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ones because you're just asking for an immense amount of work otherwise. Yeah I've been considering
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it I appreciate the suggestion and the the the validation. What? No I must say hats hats off to
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you Pokey either a fantastic job goodness put together absolutely brilliant. I think
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to take can up on is uh see this is why we need the random delay now it's going to say you
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should take can up on is going standing off or just to uh record whatever and send it to him
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and let him do that. Oh no no no Ken does a lot in the back channel that stats not even fair
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but uh if if he did that that's absolutely fine but I can guarantee I'll have it out in 15 minutes
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I run it through ffmpeg chop it off into one hour chunks and that's all you be listening to for the
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next uh don't know 12 12 right on no I I said several times tonight in a case you weren't here when
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I said it I'll repeat it but I I honestly didn't do anything and can't take credit for anything other
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than saying to a whole bunch of people who I consider to be my friends that I was going to be here
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from noon to midnight I didn't put any servers together I didn't put any streams together I didn't
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put any mirrors together I didn't bring any topics to the table and I didn't hold any guns to
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anybody's heads and tell them they had to participate this was this was absolutely everybody but
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me that I mean the guy who held a gun to my head was over two. Oh he should send the uh the
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audio to clat 2 he'll edit it for you. No I'll take care of it honest I got it. Okay
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yeah we'll take six months they have the commercials. I have a script for that don't worry
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scriptural which? In John Alcho prep audio prep underscore audio.sh written by code currently.
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Oh right right yeah no I'll I'll I'll get something figured out count I won't I won't uh
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nitpick over this one like I do with that. Good man good man I just have this fear that the audio
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like with the audio book club it's recorded for three months and then we're all on the beach
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and you were now you know you're well my friend. Well I had the idea and I never got into
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set we should record it like one of those hall day variety shows and the in the 70s uh start out
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welcome welcome to the HPR uh new year special starring uh Pokey and Peter 64 and special guest
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appearance by 5150 and Notre Dame marching band and uh Magic Johnson and Charo and such.
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I totally missed Charles I take it a leak. Well you must have walked out of the range of your
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headphones. Damn it I think I like her. Who is she? She does Kuchy Kuchy whatever that was.
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He can yeah the flack files that I have here the single the mixed down ones not the multi-channel
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but the the single stream is is 2.0 gigabyte of flack. Super I think we should just use that
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seriously I really do I think uh we should just add on the mailing list ask people what they
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what they think but my personal preference is whack it into different chunks randomly caught them
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the second part as somebody suggested earlier you've been listening to the first half of
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tune into well for the second half and then over overlapped by five seconds I've got I've got six
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pieces of flack here they're six different files and they are very randomly cut I have no idea
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how long each of them is and she's out of it the only thing if you were going to do that to be
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single stream I would say run it if you can if you can batch it run it through something that
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kills the silence so that it can put back you know people's words back together where the delay was
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and so is there a way to batch that to just I mean I can easily open on these things so I have no
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idea I'm sorry that too much no actually I know you can do it on audacity I can load these things
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into audacity and delete the silence and get them back out but just loading 13 hours of audio
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into audacity could take a bit of time well I wouldn't do the whole thing at once like first then do
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the editing it's already cut it's in six pieces because I it random intervals stopped the recording
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and restarted it so that if I lost something I didn't lose all of it you know cartoon help me
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if that the other day you probably already know that you need to sample silence and then you
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know do do the filter for silence is first and then you or do the I'm sorry sample sample the noise
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where the silence is do the noise filter first and then do remove silences yeah I got what you're
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saying I understand what you're saying but you don't have to do that with a mumble recording because
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in mumble a silence is literally silence there's no data there whatsoever it's a completely flat
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line so you don't need to level it out first you can just run it through a a I forget what the
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filter is called truncate silence I think is in filter you just run it through a truncate silence
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and it will make everything happen quicker actually it doesn't actually do that yeah truncate silence
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yeah you run through a truncate silence filter and you tell it there's a couple of settings
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in there you tell it what the minimum amount of silence you want it to ignore and anything longer
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than that it will chop down and you tell it what to chop it down to and you can you know get down
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into milliseconds if you want it's it's also known as the make me sound smarter filter
|
||||
oh man that would be the umphilt that one really well the umphilt would work too but if you can train
|
||||
yourself to be silent instead of using umphilt then it is it's the same thing
|
||||
yeah you sorry go ahead absolutely brilliant no no I just want to say that's brilliant
|
||||
what we also need to do as well in hindsight is do like what Cardinal said make a list of what
|
||||
we want to talk about when we're going to talk about what topics we've covered but also things
|
||||
like suggested topics this is a brilliant place together suggested topics one of which being
|
||||
how to do an audio filter in audacity yeah I I I agree and disagree at the same time about the um
|
||||
like the topic list if we're gonna record a show because it's really really hard to ask people to
|
||||
come on when they can pop in pop out with whatever time they can but when they're there talk about
|
||||
this list of things that we've compiled for you I I just to me it didn't feel right to do that so
|
||||
I just asked people to bring their topics and um and again I could be wrong I just don't you know
|
||||
I think you're right it's no harm to have a list of at this point we were talking about this
|
||||
then we weren't talking about this handy for the show not to oh oh you mean back and making a list oh
|
||||
I thought you meant like prepping a list of subjects if we did this again well yeah we'll be
|
||||
no harm to have people coming on in particular times you know some of the regulars like the fedora
|
||||
review I did at a particular point you know so if there's a little in conversation and let's
|
||||
people go off and get a break or you know yeah yeah well I think what I'd listen to uh works the
|
||||
well I was afraid because I admit to be here even more than I was today I thought it might
|
||||
wind up being the poke and 5150 show and I was just so glad to see so many other people in there
|
||||
you you had higher expectations than I did I thought it was going to be poke and silence
|
||||
I was downloading creative commons music I knew a couple of people said they would
|
||||
and they could but I you know what does that mean why I'm a little sad that we didn't see
|
||||
completely outside the hpr community I mean we have some from uh doors crowd by I wouldn't
|
||||
call them outside I was hoping to bring in some of the guys from Linux outlaws and uh few of
|
||||
the other shows and some people maybe aren't on shows and etc that it uh seen you notice
|
||||
actually we actually did there were a couple of guys whose whose names I recognized who are um you
|
||||
know a lot more active over there but but um like like NY bill um and a couple of those guys those
|
||||
guys are are are pretty active in the Linux outlaws crowd but um I was hoping to get the lurkers to
|
||||
come out of the woodwork I was hoping to get people who have never been on you know just listeners
|
||||
and fans that's what I was really looking forward to and then we did get a couple and I was thrilled
|
||||
on can I'm afraid this has to count as my podcast for 2011 or me if you public that's fine
|
||||
but it's 2012 now you slow me a podcast yeah nice I've got a few in the queue with homes included
|
||||
all right guys I have to go to bed now I'm falling out of my chair thank you everyone
|
||||
pokies well done congratulations awesome super thanks yeah thanks everybody congrats happy new year
|
||||
happy new year everybody sleep hard pokie yeah you know it I got to get up about five hours
|
||||
for church so yeah how much sleep as hard as I can folks at my church would string me up if they
|
||||
saw me sit inside this bottle of jack and yeah good night yeah that didn't occur to me to bring
|
||||
the bottle theater I'll be back in a minute I put the bottle in my pocket that's definitely going
|
||||
into a promo somewhere just curious are any of you on laptops I'm actually at my desktop
|
||||
I am I'm on my laptop but it's on a wired connection I am a wireless but I have a really fat pipe
|
||||
oh and transitioning over to nerdy things as anyone run the the all-fold Broadcom BCM 4312 card
|
||||
now the burn to my Broadcom stuff to be run anything belong to them well that's what came
|
||||
installed by default for a wireless card in my laptop and I still have to have the proprietary
|
||||
drivers installed to fire the card up but there have been significant advances with the with the
|
||||
open source drivers that now I can after a fire the card up I can remove the proprietary driver
|
||||
and load in the open drivers and have injection support for aircraft do you use that often
|
||||
anytime I'm not at the house in this little town where I live I've every single
|
||||
web key that is here okay I got to go guys talk to you later bye so you can now I really wish
|
||||
somebody had got that cricket sound board going so co-broad if you want to say what small town
|
||||
that is that you correct yeah Graham Bay Westfield New Brunswick and I shouldn't say it's the
|
||||
entire small town it's it's the routes that I travel along most like while you're driving
|
||||
yeah and walking back and forth from I work at a little bakery right down it's about two miles
|
||||
from the house and I walk back and forth most of the time when there's not snow outside so I just
|
||||
have aero dump running the entire time are there are there are there mostly webbies are there
|
||||
a wpa or wpa 2 there is significant amount of everything I target the web first and then I go for
|
||||
the wpa 2 because the ISP here sends out their fiber connections with a default 10 digit key that
|
||||
is all numbers and their wireless access points have a it has their company name and then it has
|
||||
three numbers so they're really really easy to identify interesting I've cracked three of those
|
||||
you've cracked three wpa 2 keys yes sir okay well like I said they're they're all digit codes
|
||||
and they're all numerical so I mean there's a finite number of keys there all right okay I'm not
|
||||
completely coherent right now so you know oh no worries I like to talk are these usually
|
||||
forward passwords or no they're in their own numerical it's like one two three four five six seven eight
|
||||
nine zero it's just the default key that comes better that the ISP sends out
|
||||
okay one of my jobs at the school I try to give all the grade school kids unique passwords and of
|
||||
course I see teachers with a ring binder laying around to follow the kids passwords it's like
|
||||
why do I bother that's kind of pointless but yeah of course I find a lot of teachers passwords stuck
|
||||
them monitors and in the desk and etc I used to work for the public school system back
|
||||
on a Georgia where I used to live and there was one teacher she wrote her username and her
|
||||
password on a chalkboard and left it there all year yeah that sounds familiar frustrates me a
|
||||
little one about half the teachers you know they're all completely random passwords but I have a
|
||||
memorized just from having to work on their accounts I like it when the teachers can't figure out
|
||||
why the students are changing their grades that hasn't happened yet and all the older kids may
|
||||
have gone with consolidation and stuff they're hiring out different schools so we have it I don't
|
||||
thank anybody in the junior high is probably smart enough of course a lot of the software out there
|
||||
is always worried me of course there's backups but for the software to work the entire folder
|
||||
for the application on the server has to be opened everyone what software are you all using
|
||||
all of your academic softwares like that uh that all you you'd be amazed how much of that stuff
|
||||
was written in windows 3x era applications there well they're fine their counting system for
|
||||
all the teacher salaries and stuff was written in fox pro I'm dealing with something that was
|
||||
written for fox pro at my little bakery job right now and I won't just shoot myself in the head
|
||||
every time I go sit down in front of that thing well a lot of these things are going online this
|
||||
company that had the fox pro application was bought out by a company saying what it does are
|
||||
grading and it's all it's moved from local to being all through the web and I can just imagine
|
||||
because I imagine I imagine the first thing they did was fire all the coders from the old
|
||||
application and somebody handed them all this code in fox pro and they said who you want us to do
|
||||
what the school I was working out they used no veil and they had something called sassy for all
|
||||
their registration information yeah I work at another school if their server was no veil 5 and it
|
||||
was like two three versions out of date when I got there and I learned the system but you couldn't
|
||||
find anything for work and well that they had their their location in a satellite location that
|
||||
had backup drives and like you couldn't even the backup drives died and I think it was no
|
||||
veil 5 and you couldn't even find a compatible drive and of course you try to ask a question
|
||||
on the no veil forums and unless you were up to a certain level and understanding no veil they
|
||||
just wouldn't even talk to you I called the company for software that this bakery has for their
|
||||
database and I was just trying to ask them was it possible to retrieve any passwords out of it
|
||||
because all the passwords had been lost and they would not tell me squat unless I paid them a
|
||||
year service contract yeah we have one like that the software's got a back got to take back to
|
||||
95 uh ear maybe windows 3.1 and the new version is uh three grand uh just a start with well
|
||||
I'll be back in just a minute I have a real world thing I got to deal with yay more crickets
|
||||
and by no if we're still being recorded for the official recording for the official one no for the
|
||||
after hours yes by after hours do you mean the official after hours are all of our recordings uh 51
|
||||
50s recording something and I don't know what he's going to do with it he'll probably smash it
|
||||
together and turn it into an episode right now I have about 5.5 gigs with the wave files
|
||||
that have this show do you have the whole lot not the whole thing probably since about I don't know
|
||||
eight o'clock or so I did a server side or not a server but everything that I pulled from the
|
||||
string which was all aug I just recorded that on my server I just started up and player with the
|
||||
audio output to a wave file it was seemed easy enough and then I set up a wild loop
|
||||
and a uh incrementer so that if it got cut off it would restart it with a new number
|
||||
could it actually sounds like a hp or episode there or if anything I should post it to CLI magic
|
||||
make a hpr episode first do both or any of you CLI magic followers yes no can I recognize your name
|
||||
yeah I love that side it's on my rss feed all the time but actually that is a valid
|
||||
episode this is how you do this an employer send it it would slap an intro and outro on and then
|
||||
you know then you're done I was actually bit you know when clatu actually had to encourage me to
|
||||
make my first hpr episode and I was like is this really you know worthy of talking about on hpr
|
||||
it was the first one was the episode where I talked about the history of desktop transparency
|
||||
and but he said there was worthwhile and he helped me actually edit it and and stuff
|
||||
I've been I've gotten a know of a lot of comments about that episode actually
|
||||
and it's going to be a long time since it's been on the Linux basic as well
|
||||
oh really that's interesting you should realize that we have had an episode on digging out a septic
|
||||
tank did you say of eating out of a septic tank no digging one out okay that's a whole different
|
||||
show if you go back and listen to the the old plot episodes they've got everything from
|
||||
let's see what are they called potato launchers to crazy things
|
||||
well that same guy and he always seemed like he was a little lit did a podcast his last one there
|
||||
was some uh uh Linux conference in uh Washington DC where you were supposed to throw stuffed animals
|
||||
at the speakers and people were coming up with different launchers and he was talking kind of
|
||||
like a potato gun but he was building this contraption of plastic tubing and two part binary
|
||||
explosives to launch these uh stuffed animals at the speaker and that was the last one he ever
|
||||
did I'm just wondering how much time he's doing now yeah the smooth on that's the comfort
|
||||
you know what I kind of wonder how mean when I posted a link to CLI magic today for the HPR
|
||||
for this event I actually shortened the link and bitly and when you do that it actually tells you
|
||||
how many hits the like that url has gotten through other shortened urls and it actually only showed
|
||||
three so far so um I got like 67 hits on it today but there's only been 70 total
|
||||
I was kind of surprised I thought that you know HPR would have gotten more hits of course it was
|
||||
to the main page instead of individual pages but I don't know are there any stats for how many
|
||||
people listen to HPR someplace I know that there was discussion of that the other day and uh
|
||||
all cast planets somebody had the specs yeah I have there's about some 500 people download a show
|
||||
every day um then that's just regular contributors who are subscribed to the rss feed and then we
|
||||
usually get about double that in every episode wow that's that's a lot that's quite a few great
|
||||
job guys and it also um seems what is that the people who download the show tend to be um
|
||||
you know podcasters and souls are involved in the free software community quite a bit so
|
||||
I don't know how many I think you have to be fairly hardcore to be listening to all of HPR
|
||||
yeah exactly we do um we get a lot of college radio and stuff uh who will re-brokast us and
|
||||
I've had you know some of the only feedback I had for my own shows has been from you know
|
||||
be over in Japan who said you're wrong you know it's you do like this whatever it was I was explaining
|
||||
and I was like what is this guy on about you know the show was one of the probably the first shows
|
||||
that I ever did and of course in that time everything has moved on you know so it was valid back then but
|
||||
um yeah it's it's it's kind of weird we're also an archive that org is
|
||||
well can I uh can I go ahead and I was before you got back on I was telling people how annoyed
|
||||
I was with you because uh it's my own fault for all the shows I want to do staying in my head
|
||||
and and on my hard drive instead of on the FTP uh that uh you've been in a lot of these
|
||||
syndicated shows and there's so much so many great podcasts that you've introduced me to over
|
||||
the last couple months that uh that I have no talk that I want to listen to and I have no time
|
||||
for any more podcast and so I'm just kind of angry with you that's absolutely fine more hours
|
||||
than today what do you need to do to start speeding up your podcast that's what I do
|
||||
oh I should by fine I find I don't enjoy them as much that way now you tend to listen to the first
|
||||
one or two just so I know how they host talk and normal speed and then I just speed them up two or
|
||||
three times um some of the old shows that I listen to you know I've been like till so whatever
|
||||
for and all the people's voices and accents I speed them right up over time and then a new
|
||||
podcast I will need double speed it well I can also fault pokey because I got into a lot of
|
||||
listening to audio books which isn't his fault I listened to uh owner sharing a few others
|
||||
uh over the summer so that put me back on my podcast but he did
|
||||
and his suggestion and I listened to uh uh handbook for the criminally insane or whatever
|
||||
and that I'll just drop right in his lap so when he listens to the feed for this he can
|
||||
he can own up to that one so much good content out there the owner shares that I think he put me
|
||||
onto owner shares well and uh I really like the audio book club I've been very interested in
|
||||
that as soon as that comes out I listen to it I've decided not to listen to the last episode because
|
||||
um how book would be insane walking home between the graveyards as I as I have to do it was scary
|
||||
enough and I don't want to be watching uh listening to another horror book well I'm not sure
|
||||
that one's good enough to scare anybody uh actually the zombies in it or the or the one zombie was
|
||||
the funniest part in fact that was the only the zombie was the only character I really cared about
|
||||
in the whole book sorry for the delay coming in and out and getting breakfast ready for everybody
|
||||
here so um but I really did enjoy handbook for the criminally insane it was nice and wacky the way I
|
||||
like it reminded me very much of Sean of the dead if any of you seen that movie yeah I have that
|
||||
one I saw it about a month ago I've gotten into the bad habit of where I've got all these uh
|
||||
some pdf and I've been exporting all the text out of it and then through fell
|
||||
stable and listening to that very good idea I prefer e-speak myself it's a lot easier to configure
|
||||
I just like listening to the lion yeah we need to bring her back I think if uh deviates doesn't
|
||||
come back soon I'm going to be doing a Friday the uh april second first show based on lean
|
||||
i'm just gonna say that's a great idea she should just full podcast for hpr telling about how
|
||||
Dave died I see Dave and I are see every day never talks I have spoken to him at the ages
|
||||
let's see any of the text over Christmas one of the h-bars are really liked recently I'm finally
|
||||
catching up oh I'm not I was scrolling back and I think I know who the author was but the one
|
||||
talked about that uh creative content perhaps should be handled uh through a repo like a ppa or
|
||||
whatever when yep every day when you uh uh do an update on your distro you'd also download all your
|
||||
create uh bring your creative content up today that's just because where I have a slow internet
|
||||
connection that always works but I I've always had my problems with g potter and I can't get seem to
|
||||
get the bash potter uh configured right that just somehow seems to be like a completely capital
|
||||
idea see somebody like you would probably benefit from a bit torrent to download your podcast
|
||||
yeah if they had if I could find a place where they had the torrent for it yeah you uh if you want
|
||||
I can torrent it for you we can definitely set something up see down to our podcast and see
|
||||
that common Linux podcast because I'm downloading them in any way well I'm trying to uh build a site
|
||||
that's built around uh creative commons media so hopefully one day in the next year so that'll be
|
||||
up well bash potter appealed to me uh because I'd like to you know with g potter you got to
|
||||
leave a whole desktop up and running and uh for a while now I've been using a chumbi sort of
|
||||
smart download tool uh what you can ask that sage him to remotely at the uh probably the desktop
|
||||
interface on the chumbi as far as I can tell as close to useless as possible but uh now I finally
|
||||
have an actual real server setup and I've been just using w get on there but uh all respect to
|
||||
link it's my problem not you know not his uh all the hacks and stuff that I've been trying to do
|
||||
to bash potter to make it work like I want it to work it seems like I've got it work downloads the
|
||||
podcast every time instead of downloading any new ones what I suggest uh is you have a look at
|
||||
uh mash potter by chess griffin he's taken links script and uh added a load of stuff um where you can
|
||||
specify yeah and you feed the journey download at times or whatever and I've switched to using that
|
||||
and this hasn't failed me since yeah I've kind of looked at that and did a combination and another
|
||||
one I found on the uh you blew two forms that somebody did a modification basically so it's you
|
||||
when you do the first downloads you don't you don't download the entire library of podcasts forever
|
||||
and somewhere in there I've made a mistake I think if I had uh uh
|
||||
wedges experience regular expressions I could take that thing and do just about whatever I wanted with it
|
||||
I just use bash potter like it comes default but I'm an archivist by nature so
|
||||
it works out well for me well it's just I hate to read download files I already have especially
|
||||
with my slow connection do you have bash potter set and stuff into individual folders
|
||||
no that was part of it I didn't like the way bash potter uh did everything by date I just wanted
|
||||
because when I tend to listen to podcast uh let's say I have I haven't listened to the last
|
||||
three Linux outlaws or the last half dozen HPRs I like to listen to them all at once you know
|
||||
one podcast all at once rather than uh by chronological order for everything see I've just got
|
||||
mindset up to where uh bash potter reads my feeds and dumps everything into one massive folder
|
||||
well it's the same way I did it seemed like a few uh when I when I would download them
|
||||
uh well Linux outlaws was one of them it added to the end of the extension you know
|
||||
dot-og and then a whole bunch of random characters so it thought it was downloading a new podcast
|
||||
every time so it just keep downloading the same ones you really have to have a look at the
|
||||
bash potter it takes care of all that crap and for the popular podcast is uh you know where
|
||||
there are well-known things with v-burner or whatever it takes care of all that stuff and you can
|
||||
put them into a different folder as well that's that's what I do that's how I actually get them to
|
||||
speed up so I put music that I don't don't want to sped up into a music folder and then I'll put
|
||||
depending on how fast I want them hop up them into uh speed up to speed up three speed up four
|
||||
that sort of thing well thanks that sounds like the name because uh well my problem with g-potter
|
||||
and I filed the report and uh you know that they've been getting back to it but nobody's grabbed it
|
||||
is my slow connection attends the time out uh before the download is finished so my
|
||||
my normal uh method for getting my podcasts is when I'm not gonna be around using the bandwidth
|
||||
on the computer is is launch the download and with g-potter unless you're right there uh you'll
|
||||
select 10 podcasts that you need and go away for five or six hours and you'll find a three of them
|
||||
with downloaded and uh seven of them have timed out and there's no automatic retrieval on that
|
||||
and uh it's not really their fault be because 99% of the users of g-potter are faster connections
|
||||
that don't encounter that problem now that you're mentioned in that's why I stopped using g-potter
|
||||
that and the file naming scheme that's back when well I keep me that's one of the podcasts I kept
|
||||
trying to do on the coffin record about making assumptions because all I went from months I looked
|
||||
up that problem and there's people were talking about it online in forums and thinking yeah we
|
||||
have a slow connection and we're having the problem with it dropping out and I kept thinking well
|
||||
the devs must know because people are talking about it online so I didn't ever I didn't ever
|
||||
file a bug report or or get get all the time per all or anything and uh soft about a year
|
||||
of getting you know downloading the new versions of g-potter and expecting it to magically be fixed
|
||||
for me so well maybe they don't know and finally file the bug report yeah very good plan
|
||||
always file report even if it's duplicate well obviously look for the bug report first but um I
|
||||
don't think people should just say hey it's only for people with slow connections and let's not
|
||||
worry about how everybody's got a fast connection because now with a lot of the mobile networks
|
||||
you're going to need to have a reliable slow connections which is what they are so what goes around
|
||||
comes around code it properly in the first place and then you don't have to go back and code it again
|
||||
well another problem every time I try to record that podcast and I would listen to it sound like
|
||||
I am using my voice as a podcaster bashing Thomas Pearl because he hasn't jumped on it and fixed my
|
||||
particular problem I didn't want to come off that way and it just that's how it sounded in my head
|
||||
when I did it yeah that's understandable at the same time you know you could you could have that
|
||||
same approach but say he listens to the show say he takes them forward say he fixes the problem
|
||||
then he's in a better position to leave your software on mobile systems or android or whatever
|
||||
and then right there you've met his software more accessible to people and you've
|
||||
basically helped them out by fixing something that shouldn't be wrong in the first place
|
||||
well my other point to be and I wish I had the time to get into it was sometimes if you
|
||||
follow the bug report you may want to you know offer to get your hands dirty and go in there and fix
|
||||
it yourself another one you might want to look is RSS DOR it's Python based and it has quite
|
||||
advanced filters some for it 51 view had much experience with our sink at all
|
||||
I have done much with it I have a basic idea of the concepts
|
||||
yeah what what I could do is if you give me your spotter I can put a ssh connection into my
|
||||
machine or something you could collect them on some server on the internet i.e my machine
|
||||
and then our sink the director is over our sink is very reliable if if it's halfway through
|
||||
downloading a show or a file it'll you know pick up again afterwards halfway through so you're
|
||||
not read downloading stuff and then you just manage the thing on the whatever server and you
|
||||
don't know the shows that way okay we'll have to talk about that sometime I've got your email
|
||||
from the news group and stuff we'll see what we can do about that yeah definitely I think
|
||||
would would actually be cool as a project to do you know they central repo like that that you
|
||||
are saying stuff for slow connections and then we could point a torrent to that place and then we
|
||||
could point a you know make a Debian package as well so you get it all the different ways
|
||||
right that comes around back to what I was talking about making a ppa for Debianer and
|
||||
Bluetooth packages and well there always do a customer costatory I've seen for Fedora so
|
||||
that might be an interesting project to start is doing the podcast as a repo I'd really
|
||||
love to see hpura done that way well I think I learned that the other day on IRC from the last
|
||||
known god when they were talking about razor qt and follow the link and found that you just
|
||||
copied the file from the from the server and dropped it in appropriate directory in
|
||||
and slash edc and that's how you added a repo to to Fedora
|
||||
cover 2 what was that application name rssd what dl er
|
||||
r thanks I've got the link up now sorry guys that's to do some stuff with the kids here
|
||||
back in the minutes I use rss dl er download torrents for automatically pulling stuff from
|
||||
torrent feeds 51 50 I'm just curious how fast of a connection do you have
|
||||
360k bits down with a tailwind how many shows do you actually listen to oh a trial
|
||||
listen of all of hpr tilts kernel panic new world order techie geek linux outlaws almost
|
||||
the door stuff linux basics android addicts linux for the rest of us pod nuts pro see all there's
|
||||
two or three others as well those are the those are the main ones I can't live with that
|
||||
wasn't actually laughing at your connection speed it's actually here than I thought you were
|
||||
going to say but I was just laughing at your tier one joke well as tell people I am the
|
||||
all over Douglas of that you know those old green acres episode whenever you had to answer the
|
||||
phone you had to climb up the pole that's kind of like my internet
|
||||
what am i sorry to miss you miss green acres what it is for gigger herch wireless connection for my
|
||||
ISP 10 miles away oh cool so you use like point to point industrial wireless right they said all
|
||||
that up and they're into it and then actually my house doesn't have line of sight to
|
||||
there end because of all the trees on the place so I've actually got my own 2.4
|
||||
wireless connection between my machine shed in the house well even if your connection slow
|
||||
I can give you props for the coolness of your connection well it's probably one of the most
|
||||
interesting ones out that definitely should be incorporated in your consider people with slow
|
||||
connections show because I mean that is a perfectly valid that's a perfectly valid internet connection
|
||||
my brother to my brothers actually have connections very similar to that well see the batter
|
||||
satellite is one to avoid satellite because at least used to be an avid gamer and of course with
|
||||
the lag on satellite it's just impossible to play online games of course I'm so far from the
|
||||
center of the internet and really my pain time is no worse out here that I've seen with some of my
|
||||
customers that have a cable connection in town so it's just that it's more the number of hops
|
||||
rather than I think that last connection to my house so it's it's really not viable for me to
|
||||
play interactive games anymore anyway personally I could never get into gaming myself
|
||||
yeah I'm afraid I'm big into the games where stuff blows up good I'm a liver better
|
||||
and can everybody else on the line just so everybody knows even though poke is gone to bad and
|
||||
kill the connection I started recording when he quit so I just want everybody to be aware of
|
||||
even those after hours as long as nobody has an injection and assuming I can save a usable file I
|
||||
will sit in this alone to poke you to have him add in super and I am a lover not a fighter so
|
||||
I don't know that you're probably with us I did want to ask why I was out I was over
|
||||
across the driveways you don't worry about me driving in an altered state watching a movie but
|
||||
why I was out this evening that I miss any really good chat calls I understand that
|
||||
this the web was doing okay for a while don't know I went to bed for quite a lot of us this
|
||||
the web was pretty lit this the web was probably one of the highlights the evening well I'm glad
|
||||
somebody was I found at my age I just who I used to be able to drink and go woohoo and be the life
|
||||
of the party it's just at some point I just want to curl up good a bed you know it's funny pretty
|
||||
much as soon as I became legal drinking age the desire to get drunk just vanished for me I have no
|
||||
desire for anymore I like drinking beer I like sipping on a good whiskey but that's about it
|
||||
yeah since I've had so basically stopped drinking so now when I do drink I will have a bottle of
|
||||
Belgian beer you know if you're going to only have one beer then it might as well be a very very
|
||||
good beer one of the problems with kids is that when you drink something they want they look at
|
||||
your glass and they want to drink something so you have to like find some cranberry juice it looks
|
||||
like red wine or something like that now I give them a teaspoon full of it and then they don't want
|
||||
to drink it then yeah that's why my parents did me they gave me a spoonful of wine that that
|
||||
agent didn't really taste very good to me and of course you know later on I took off pretty good on
|
||||
it but my folks didn't drink at all alcoholism runs pretty bad in my family
|
||||
well I can always be huge when they see what it can do because my parents are about the only
|
||||
so real social drinkers that I know that never seem to take it beyond the limit you know those
|
||||
neighbors around here don't do it at all but yeah most most double stay drink they're pretty good
|
||||
pretty good at it I had an uncle he would go through about two fifths of jack every two or three
|
||||
days and my granddaddy made his own moonshine what I ought to do a thona's recipe but now I hope I
|
||||
don't ever hit the lottery because I'm never left completely to my own devices on a phrase
|
||||
that'd be about what I would have what do is start on a bottle beam after breakfast and go through
|
||||
it by lunch I want to go check out hpr episode 404 I can't find that one
|
||||
sorry bad joke it's that the one I'm making your own need that was one of lost in boxes
|
||||
no clattery recorded me and Alan Hickner about making moonshine
|
||||
oh okay I love that one that's the one where you had the ratchet in it oh yeah that was you
|
||||
fan astic I love that that was me fantastic hi how are you one of my all-time favorites this is a
|
||||
funny thing this one I really love about this and meeting people online where you actually
|
||||
talk to people core I've seen your your nick on the IRC and just never met the connection
|
||||
I'm terrible that way hi how are you yeah that sounds more like when you're doing when you're
|
||||
when you're talking normally I don't I don't hear the Southern at all yeah I've been up here in
|
||||
Canada for about a year and a half and I was in Maine for six months and I have lost so much of
|
||||
my accent like just the the real real Southern draw to it I've still got a little bit of it but
|
||||
most of it's gone well I have to tell you that guy's kind of put me off if I ever go down south
|
||||
and somebody's pass around an old ceramic jug with triple X on the bottom like out of the movies
|
||||
I may just have to pass up oh no that's not how we do it now we stick it in Mason jars what's
|
||||
Mason jar a jar like you would use to put a like a jam jelly or like to jar your vegetables and stuff
|
||||
yeah yeah yeah Mason's just a brand there's a fine tradition of making poutine in Ireland as well
|
||||
so yes I've been known to yeah I have a few stories about that as well
|
||||
all right well goodnight guys
|
||||
night I don't see you around I don't worry I was like you've come go ahead 50
|
||||
I was gonna say kin that looks like you've just come up with the topic for your next podcast
|
||||
I have topic I have a big big long list of topics for no time to do and anyway there's not a lot I
|
||||
could say about it really I've happened another vault it's more like um you know you find a few
|
||||
guys around the country can brew ours can distill really good poutine and yeah one night we had
|
||||
we had got this bottle from open the mountains in Whitlow and so we had it in the kitchen anywhere
|
||||
in the living room having a chat and next thing we come back in and there's some dude they're pouring
|
||||
this poutine out into you know the lid of the bottle and throwing it on the fire and it goes
|
||||
you know it goes into a lovely blue flame and he had essentially just burned half of our bottle of
|
||||
poutine did he walk away let's just say he wasn't invited to any more parties once I've
|
||||
distilled from um potato believe it enough that guy no I believe it in Ireland so how's that
|
||||
different from vodka um tastes different I guess as again I couldn't claim to be any particular
|
||||
expert on this I didn't start drinking until I was 21 so um which in the states I guess is normal
|
||||
but uh in our land it's a bit of a um the legal age is 18 actually in the Netherlands the legal age
|
||||
for beer is 16 and then you can go into hard liquor when you're 18 uh huh yeah yeah I was gonna say
|
||||
it's uh it just wasn't what's normal in fact I I'm of the opinion it's make it worse I saw that
|
||||
when I was in college that the national age made the change over from where any you know most
|
||||
states you could buy beer when you're 18 and hard liquor when you were 21 uh my friends who waited
|
||||
till they were actually 21 and had no experience in high school uh well I know one of them he
|
||||
first time he started going off drinking he almost uh did alcohol poisoning okay I got three kids
|
||||
that needs feeding how good it goes it's been a pleasure so yeah yeah thanks for all the good stuff
|
||||
you do for us Kim speaking of feeding I hear bacon and eggs calling my name that's two o'clock
|
||||
in the morning for me so it's a bit early that's about four here
|
||||
you clear you broke up boss I said are you then that last word coast are you clear out on the
|
||||
eastern coast oh yeah uh I can stand on top of the house and see the ocean okay I wasn't aware
|
||||
it's you it's sitting at that far out where you were uh two hours ahead of the eastern seaboard
|
||||
here in the states uh no I'm just one hour plus the east coast as soon as you go from
|
||||
Maine and hit that you jump an hour forward because they're on Atlantic standard times at an
|
||||
eastern standard okay and you're not doing uh daylight savings time uh not right now it ended
|
||||
back in uh okay that explains extra hour yes just one extra hour it's uh 48 on the east coast
|
||||
348 here okay it's not quite two o'clock where I am yeah I live outside of a town called
|
||||
St. John New Brunswick it's uh it's pretty little town nothing to do well that's uh
|
||||
clenched since we have a little town uh about 10 miles north here called St. John
|
||||
it's pretty country up here man just cold
|
||||
well I'm sure it is it's probably a lot less developed than you than any place you could walk
|
||||
to in the states in ways when you when you go right down uh St. John's a city of about 150,000
|
||||
people and the surrounding area there and uh I live on the outskirts
|
||||
in another small town called Grand Bay and uh and like everywhere else it's just small towns
|
||||
yeah St. John I'm thinking about here's probably about 50 people not 150,000 uh cup you know
|
||||
I don't know it's related to couple places I would like to see before I go is uh Scotland
|
||||
because that's where my ancestors were from and uh New Zealand I'd like to visit all those places
|
||||
I see on uh saw on Hercules and Zena the waterfalls and I'll just look like hadn't been touched
|
||||
since the beginning of time I'd like to run over to Ireland that's where my folks are from
|
||||
well my people are Scott Irish so I should should include that came through
|
||||
I mean they were from Scotland and then spent a few generations in Ireland before they came over here
|
||||
yeah back when my folks came over they uh they started out down south had a pretty big plantation
|
||||
then the uh civil war hit pretty much demolished everything that they had and they were poor
|
||||
went to the sharecropping and built back up from there well we're still sharecropping here that's
|
||||
just the way agriculture is done you got a little garden out there well I'm a farmer stock Kansas
|
||||
as well as doing IT work most of the agriculture up here is timber well you guys still got some
|
||||
all man there's tons of it everywhere up here just miles and miles and miles as far as I can see
|
||||
and it's all government owned well my dad like stole a story about how when he was here there was
|
||||
in a tree for miles and miles forever and it's because the Indians that they just chased out
|
||||
government had uh if they wanted to have grass for the buffalo and if uh lightning strike didn't burn
|
||||
the prairie during the summer they would make sure it started burning for they left and went south
|
||||
are all folks did some dirty things back then didn't they?
|
||||
well I knew folks you know back in the day you could tell me if the prairie fires and how they just
|
||||
hunkered down and you know like clarinary around the house and weighed fort to pass around them
|
||||
my family carries that proud heritage of wearing those pointed white hoods
|
||||
well my my aunt was in genealogy and she could show us where we had ancestors on both sides
|
||||
one of mine was the one of the dissenting justices on the dred Scott decision
|
||||
so looking back on your genealogy and stuff do you ever see any reports of how the people that come
|
||||
before you acted and you ever notice things that you do that they did too?
|
||||
oh I don't know about that um I'm probably about much pretty much like my dad and what I never met
|
||||
my grandfather my dad's side but uh I hear stories about him and uh how he was stubborn and
|
||||
you know like to make a point of things and I can see that in me quite a bit
|
||||
yeah my whole cotton picking family stubborn mine has well been our middle name
|
||||
well my grandfather he's like me didn't like not spend money even the other other people's money
|
||||
he was on the county commission for years and they wanted to put air conditioning in the
|
||||
county courthouse so he went into a commission meeting wearing a fur jet hull fur coat
|
||||
like coonskin coat or something but full length fur coat in July just to prove that they didn't need
|
||||
darn air conditioning wonder if he got warm that day I imagine he did and there's the other
|
||||
old story see my great grandfather when he hopes that it out here he was you know uh what he
|
||||
wanted to do was uh raise sheep and of course the sheep were hard on the prairie and these were
|
||||
still last of the open range days and he and his family were living there in a dugout
|
||||
in fact I can still see where it is in one of our fields or where it was and uh the story is the
|
||||
story was in the paper is one these days the family was there and uh these three cowboys
|
||||
rode up and uh told him how he had not to be raising sheep but he needed to get out of there
|
||||
he went back in story was he went back in the sodding came back out with a peacemaker coat
|
||||
ran him off like nobody in the family knows what ever came in that peacemaker coat peacemaker
|
||||
coat I'd like to have it the oldest gun I have is a my great granddad's side by side 10 gauge with
|
||||
uh hammer cocks yeah my dad tells him that a couple guns they got rid of when they took over
|
||||
the farm they wanted well they need they need the cash and they had a couple of matched pair
|
||||
uh 20 gauge double barrel shotguns they had the Damascus barrels which you wouldn't
|
||||
ever want to fire and I take a 32 caliber rifle they got rid of
|
||||
speaking of guns I can't have any my handguns up here
|
||||
yeah the rules are different they let you keep guns though
|
||||
yeah they just just this year they abolished the the long gun registry so you don't have to register
|
||||
your rifles anymore you still got to take a certificate type deal and uh you got to pay license fee
|
||||
to you got to pay a license fee for your hunter safety thing and then you got to pay another
|
||||
license fee to be able to buy ammunition well I gathered down off straight they went plum nuts
|
||||
they won't let them have anything down there anymore now fortunately right now there is a really
|
||||
conservative uh government that has the majorities first time anybody's had the majority since like
|
||||
the 70s I think so right now they're they're pushing through some stuff that actually sounds good
|
||||
and might make for some good business practices later on but all the bleeding heart liberals
|
||||
just can't stand them well I was always surprised telling these channels uh really the
|
||||
politically everything seems to be pretty good 50 50 split and we get to hear ideas from all over
|
||||
it's not all you know wall street protesters or pro tea party it's you know we get we get all
|
||||
kinds of ideas and that's how it should be everybody thought the same there wouldn't be no point
|
||||
thinking well I think not thinking there's pretty much what most politicians I see now count on
|
||||
well up here with the healthcare and stuff uh my wife's a nurse so I kind of have intimate knowledge
|
||||
of how this stupid healthcare system up here works and if the US goes to what they got here man we
|
||||
are in for a world of hurt well that's why I hear everybody says well it's a pain for but you'll
|
||||
die before you ever get it I my wife went in to the emergency room with chest pain she's a nurse
|
||||
so after they did the EKG and said okay it's not your heart uh usually what they would do is they
|
||||
would send you home but uh where she was a nurse they went ahead and admitted her to the emergency
|
||||
room so we sat in the emergency room after that for about two hours before you even saw a doctor
|
||||
and she's just riding in pain on the bed she goes and she the doctor comes in looks at her over
|
||||
and gives her some Tylenol 3 and then about two hours later we see that our doctor again pain
|
||||
still there there Tylenol didn't touch it and uh then that doctor goes off duty and it's about
|
||||
another two hours before we see another doctor and then uh I finally talked the wife and they're
|
||||
taking a shot and uh she got a shot and about an hour after that we got discharged and went home
|
||||
yeah it sounds like they're doing everything they can just to do the animal amount to take
|
||||
me away with hold that and the doctors don't get paid based on how many patients they see they
|
||||
get paid hourly and it's a set rate so there's no incentive for them to work harder
|
||||
well say what you will about blizzard much you've got to give people incentive to uh put out
|
||||
that extra effort or human uh you know human nature is to just do the minimum you can and go home
|
||||
well now see I'm more of an anarchist when it comes to that just down with the system let's go back
|
||||
to the way it was well they haven't given us much lately to have much faith in any kind of system
|
||||
every time I talk about politics my wife goes nuts then my father and all that's all he wants to
|
||||
talk about is politics and since I don't agree with him he goes nuts
|
||||
uh is your wife canadian and I take it then since you're in contact with her and her family and
|
||||
etc up there yep she's canadian and uh my father and law is dual citizen he was born in the US
|
||||
but his both of his parents are canadian he's uh he's lucky he was born on uh campabello island
|
||||
which doesn't have a hospital so everybody that's born on campabello island has to go to
|
||||
lubek main to have their kids born well probably wouldn't work like that anymore I hear about
|
||||
since home land security got involved and everybody having to have a passport now to cross
|
||||
you the north of south border uh you have towns that strowl the border where people have to go
|
||||
through the INS checkports just just uh see their friends and relatives uh on the other side of the
|
||||
block yeah but it's like that up here but the borders are just really really relaxed uh
|
||||
actually the the one that's the pain in the butt is coming back into the US
|
||||
well they're not really trouble from up there no that's why they let a uh a french murderer who
|
||||
had just finished uh the way with uh chainsaw and the bloody chainsaw was in the truck they let him
|
||||
run across well they catch him on this side eventually oh they're calling within a couple days
|
||||
it was just one of those little things that everybody got all up in a tizzy about and that's
|
||||
another thing I can't stand about being around here everybody knows everything sounds like just one
|
||||
big small town that's exactly what it is and I tell you man these people are some of the biggest
|
||||
gossips you ever seen in your life if I ever want anybody to know anything I tell my mother-in-law
|
||||
and within three hours the entire family knows and all their friends know
|
||||
mmm this sandwich is good what kind of sandwich bacon egg and tomato how you can't go wrong with that
|
||||
no sorry on fresh multi-grain bread it was big yesterday morning
|
||||
yeah I've always wanted to get into that I never have uh you got the bread maker and I heard that
|
||||
oh no it's from a little job down at the bakery well I think it's knuckle who was suddenly
|
||||
survivability podcasting here all you got me started on the idea of the uh
|
||||
certain I produced grain that hold some of it back for uh my own use
|
||||
what do you use it for? well I'm a weak producer so uh usually just goes to say 15
|
||||
probably uh make bread all year long that'd be kind of fun I can't bake nothing to save my life though
|
||||
well I was kind of intrigued by his uh home grinders I think the human powered one to be a lot
|
||||
more practical than the electrical he talked about if you're uh trying to get yourself set up for
|
||||
you know what happens when everything crashes oh man if everything crashes I won't be able to
|
||||
watch TV no more yeah I have a bank of friend who said it's common it's inevitable we spent too
|
||||
much money we don't have and oh man uh well you were supposed to tell me when the time was to buy
|
||||
gold I mean collecting to do that but uh I don't keep them keep them my fingers crossed and we
|
||||
can get out of it like we always have but you never know you know there's too many things going on
|
||||
that we we can't we can't continue just go I think going on not buying our own stuff but you know
|
||||
trade your own services back and forth and not producing anything like we do in this country
|
||||
up canada is the world's number one exporter of natural resources and they export I think it's
|
||||
50 something percent of that to the u.s well there's only two ways to produce new content you
|
||||
can do intellectual content like we do a fart you know movies and music and and uh software or
|
||||
you got to take something out of the ground either biological or mineral and turn it into something
|
||||
and we're pretty good about uh doing the uh doing the art doing the intellectual property but
|
||||
we're not so good anymore about uh turning our resources into money anymore well you know how
|
||||
you uh you take stuff the store to get it recycled and everything well too many times it takes more
|
||||
resources to recycle something than you get back out of it all right well I have discovered
|
||||
what the uh the local government around here does with their uh recyclable plastics they take
|
||||
them they compress them they stick them on a container ship uh in talifax which is an international
|
||||
port and then they ship down through the Panama Canal over the Pacific Ocean over to China and
|
||||
then China takes these big old crates ground and loads it in their furnaces and uses it to power
|
||||
their uh industries well that's one thing to do with it I always thought we spend way too many
|
||||
resources uh digging holes and burying stuff on your ground that uh we're gonna wind out
|
||||
it run out of ground to put it in uh of course I burned my own trash I wish there was a way I could
|
||||
turn that into heat there probably is if I uh put enough effort into it but I'm just thinking on
|
||||
on a global scale we have all this stuff we're bearing it underground and it just seems to uh
|
||||
be a waste in two ways I don't really know what you can do with the garbage
|
||||
but I know burning plastic ain't good that stuff but some awful toxic stuff
|
||||
yeah I'm glad they're not doing it around here two words jet stream
|
||||
but it's got to be a lot more intense over there way than it is ours oh yeah their air quality is
|
||||
next to nothing uh they had to stop stop half their uh industries before they could uh have the
|
||||
Beijing Olympics couple years back right you gotta wonder what's going to follow their ghost cities
|
||||
over there they have that they've planned and built and note and absolutely nobody's living over
|
||||
there that's kind of I I I guess that they've got their own ways of dumping their own money which
|
||||
is all our money down a whole two well it's just a completely different system over there
|
||||
they have a completely different way of thinking than we do here
|
||||
well I'm sure there's things that we could learn from them but that you know there it's
|
||||
sometimes as hard to wrap your head around yeah well that sandwich is hit me in a mighty good spot
|
||||
and I think it's about time for me to go run off to bed so I can sleep before I have to get
|
||||
out and go to church in the morning well I think that's a pretty good idea it sounds like you and
|
||||
are the only ones channel so oh for right out there listening or who will be listening when we
|
||||
put this all together in the podcast uh this is 5150 and Cobra 2 and everybody else who still shows
|
||||
up in the channel Delwin and Jay Newster and Ken Fallon who I know is gone and Pyteman music we
|
||||
uh we uh thank him so much for the use of his uh uh the motor server today and techie geek who
|
||||
is lurking in the channel I'm sorry I missed the chance to talk to you and uh it's getting about
|
||||
2.30 in the morning in the Midwest and I think it's about time we uh absolutely called it a podcast
|
||||
happy new year happy new year Cobra all right I'm going boss you're in this is 5150 on the side we
|
||||
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|
||||
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|
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|
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