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Episode: 930
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Title: HPR0930: TGTM Tech News for 2012-02-20
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Source: https://hub.hackerpublicradio.org/ccdn.php?filename=/eps/hpr0930/hpr0930.mp3
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Transcribed: 2025-10-08 05:07:00
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right now.
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You're listening to Talk Geek 3 News, number 61, record for February 20, 2012.
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You're listening to the Tech Only Hacker Public Radio Edition, to get the full podcast,
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including political, commentary, and other controversial topics.
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My username there is DG-T-G-T-M, as in DeepGeek Talk Geek to me.
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And now the tech roundup for me, ff.org, dated February 16, 2012 by Peter Echersley, Rainey
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Wrightman, and Lee TN.
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Google circumvent Safari Privacy Protections.
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This is why we need to not track.
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Earlier today, the Wall Street Journal published evidence that Google has been circumventing
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the privacy settings of Safari and iPhone users, tracking them on non-google sites despite
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Apple's default settings, which were intended to prevent such tracking.
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This tracking, discovered by Stanford Researcher Jonathan Mayer, was a technical side effect,
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probably an unintended side effect, of a system that Google built to pass social personalization
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information, like, quote, your friend Susie plus one, this ad about TANDI, unquote,
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from thegoogle.com domain to the double-click.net domain, further technical explanation can
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be found below.
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Coming on the heels of Google's controversial decision to tear down the privacy protective
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walls between some of its other services, this is bad news for the company.
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It's time for Google to acknowledge that it can't do a better job of respecting the
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privacy of web users.
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One way that Google can prove itself as a good actor in the online privacy debate is
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by providing meaningful ways for users to limit what data Google collects about them.
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Specifically, it's time that Google's third-party web servers start respecting do-not-track
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requests and time for Google to offer a built-in do-not-track option.
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Meanwhile, users who want to be safe against web tracking can't rely on Safari's well-intentioned
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but circumventable protections.
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Until do-not-track is more widely respected, users who wish to defend themselves against
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online tracking should use ad-block plus for Firefox or Chrome or tracking protection
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lists for internet explorer, ad-block needs to be used with easy privacy and easy lists
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in order to offer maximum protection to read the technical details about the tracking
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follow links in the show notes.
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From torrentfreak.com by Winston-TPB, day of February 17, 2012, Pirate Bay, the RIA is
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delusional and must be stopped.
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Senior Executive Vice President of the RIA, wow, what a long title.
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Mitch Glazier has published a blog post on YTPB is quote, one of the worst of the worst.
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The piece gives us ample information on just how delusional the recording industry really
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is and shows why they must be stopped.
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In the very first sentence, Glazier uses the phrase copyright theft.
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It's an interesting concept if anyone in history ever stole copyright.
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It must be the record industry.
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At least they tried as in the Swedish TPP case where they sued over a record they did not
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have the copyright to.
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A small lesson to Mr. Glazier, if someone steals something, you don't have it anymore.
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If you copy it, both have it.
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This means if someone steals your copyright, aka copyright theft, you don't have the copyright
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anymore.
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I'm having a hard time to see that happening, though, since copyright isn't really physical.
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The jobs that you say are being stolen in the US are somewhat physical, though, and if
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someone steals them, where do they go?
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Maybe they just aren't needed anymore.
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That's what technology does.
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Sorry, it's 2012, not 1912.
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Do you want to forbid robots as well since they steal jobs?
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Let me quote the title of Peter Sun's latest piece in Wired, its evolution.
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If you search for it, you'll find the rest of the title for that piece.
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It might be illegal for me to put that in print, since a nuke censorship law was passed
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in Syria.
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Since you apparently think that US law should control people around the world, shouldn't
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we follow the laws in Syria as well?
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Yes, Glacier is upset that the Pirate Bay moves away from US-controlled domain names.
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He doesn't seem to understand that there is a worldwide problem when one single country
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tries to take control over a global infrastructure.
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The Pirate Bay has no connections to the US, so why should the US be able to control it?
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It's a very undemocratic procedure, which obviously the RAA is supportive of.
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Apparently, escaping US laws means not being born in the US, not living there, not working
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there, or not wanting to kiss your ass.
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And, Mr. Glacier, talking about the countries in the EU that you have forced ISPs to block
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the Pirate Bay and other sites is interesting, as the European Court has just decided that
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these types of censorship are just that censorship and should be treated as illegal.
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Would we see your view on the matter as the RAA is clearly supporting illegal censorship?
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The RAA wants the tech industry to sit down and talk to them.
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Fuck that.
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You're not in charge.
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If you want the help of the tech industry, ask for it.
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You'll probably get it since most tech people are nice.
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You're not in charge anymore, and that's probably why you're pissed off.
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Please stop calling yourself the creative community.
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You're not a community.
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You're a coalition of some of the richest companies in the world, and the only thing you
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seem to be creative with is your accounting procedures.
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The recording industry is like a kid screaming for candy.
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The problem is that the kid has diabetes.
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From torrentfreak.com, by a Nick Mech's day in February 14, 2012, I.I.P.A. reports bit
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torrent sites and cyber lockers to US government.
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The I.I.P.A., which counts major entertainment groups, such as the MPAA and RIAA, among
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its members, has listed many bit torrent and cyber lockers services in its latest submission
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to the US trade representative.
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Hong Kong-based mega-upload neighbor File Sonic is listed as an infringing distribution
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hub, while Pirate Bay, ISO Hunt, Demonoid, and others get notable mentions.
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The International Intellectual Property Alliance, the I.I.P.A., has just published its written
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submission to the Office of the US Trade Representative, listing countries that it believes
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should be identified in the annual Special 301, the report that details the adequacy and
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effectiveness of US training partners, protection of intellectual property rights.
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The I.I.P.A., which counts the Association of American Publishers, BSA, ESA, Independent
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Film and Television Alliance, MPAA, National Music Publishers Association, and the I.I.A.A,
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among its members, has listed its grievances against the whole host of countries.
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Unsurprisingly, especially given its members' focus, the main complaints concern movie,
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music video game, and software piracy.
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The complaints about infringement in the digital realm are numerous.
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From the priority watch list, the file sharing focus fails on Canada, China, Russia, and
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Ukraine.
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Canada.
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According to the I.I.P.A., Canada is a haven where technologically sophisticated international
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piracy organizations can operate with virtual impunity in the online marketplace.
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This is due, says the group, to Canada's reputation for having weak and effective or non-existent
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laws to outlaw infringement.
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The I.I.P.A. notes correctly that Canada plays host to a large number of BitTorrents
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sites, including perhaps its most famous ISO Hunt.
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The group says that the site has operated with impunity for more than eight years despite
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being the subject of an injunction issued by a U.S. court, of course, by definition the
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U.S. is outside Canadian jurisdiction.
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Other major Torrents sites mentioned as having Canadian connections include kick-ass torrents
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and torrents.eu.
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It's also noted that many French language torrent sites are operated from Quebec.
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File sharing related actions I.I.P.A. recommends Canada takes in 2012.
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Establish clear liability and effective remedies against those who operate elicit file sharing
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services, or those whose actions are otherwise directed to promoting infringement.
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An act strong legal incentives for internet service providers to cooperate with copyright
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owners and combatting online piracy, including by limiting the scope of liability safe
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harbors in accordance with international best practices.
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China.
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The I.I.P.A. lists the main source of online piracy as music portal sites, P2P services,
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deep linking services, A.K.A. search engines, forms, blogs, and cyberwalkers.
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File sharing client, zoomly, and other services offered by its operas are mentioned several
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times.
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The situation in China has improved over the last 12 months, with the I.I.P.A. noting
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that major P2P sites have cleaned up their pirated content.
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Elicit streaming services are described as problematic as the increase in conception of elicit
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content via cell phones.
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To read the file sharing related actions, the I.I.P.A. recommends China takes in 2012.
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Read the full article.
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Russia.
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The I.I.P.A. singles out two Bitcoin torrent trackers as especially problem at rutracker.org,
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the renamed torrent.ru and game torrent, a tracker alleged owned by a Russia national
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but hosted in Estonia.
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According to the submission, Russia is home to the world's two most prolific criminal
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release groups, who camcorder movies in local theaters and upload them to the internet.
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The unnamed groups are said to have been responsible for 77 exceptional quality camcorder movies
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in 2011.
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A streaming video links site listed as offering such movies is the popular video2k.tv.
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On the music front, Russia's Facebook equivalent, the Kuntakhti, is singled out for criticism
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despite apparently responding correctly to take down demands.
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Quote.
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While the Kuntakhti will generally take down specific content when notified that is an
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inappropriate enforcement mechanism for a problem of re-kuntakhti's own making, unquote,
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the submission states.
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Sites that charge a nominal amount for music such as the numerous all of MP3-type clones
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are described as an important source of piracy, which have grown to more than 30 in number
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since the site's demise.
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To read the file showing related actions IAPA recommends Russia takes in 2012 read the
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whole article.
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Ukraine.
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Unsurprisingly, demonoid.me is a focus of the IAPA's and bit torn sentiments in Ukraine that
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claims that the site offers 75,000 movies and 47,000 TV shows for free.
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Cyberlocker EX.ua, which was rated in January but is now back online, leads the IAPA's
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file hosting complaints.
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To read the recommendations for the Ukraine, read the full article.
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To read the paragraphs on Italy, Spain, Switzerland, Hong Kong, read the full article, linked
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to in the show notes from techdirt.com by Mike Masnick, date February 17, 2012.
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Congrats US government, you're scaring web businesses into moving out of the US.
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The federal government has been paying lip service to the idea that it wants to encourage
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new businesses and stops in the US, and this is truly important to the economy as studies
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have shown that almost all of the net job growth in this country is coming from internet
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startups.
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Thankfully, some politicians recognize this, but the federal government seems to be going
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in the other direction.
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With the JOT form situation unfolding where the US government shut down an entire website
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with no notice or explanation, people are beginning to recognize that the US is not safe for
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internet startups.
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Lots of folks have been passing around this rather reasonable list of activities for US
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based websites.
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Quote, today's cis-admin to-do list, zero, get corporate membership with EFF, one, identify
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all applications with user-generated content, two, move all associated domains to a non-US
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based registrar, three migrate DNS, web-serving, and other critical services to non-US based
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servers, four migrate yourself to a non-US controlled country.
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I'm sorry for US sites and users, your government has held bent on turning the internet into
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a read-only device like TV, easily regulated and controlled, the population will be required
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to sit quietly and keep their eyes glued on the screen so they don't miss the ads with
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any infringers deemed terrorists and pedophiles and less deserving of summary punishment
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by DHS squads.
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Hopefully the internet will route around the damaged segment and the rest of us can continue
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to enjoy the amazing interactivity it has brought to society.
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End block quote.
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What's amazing is the, what's the big deal attitude the government has taken to all of this?
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For most of us this situation is shocking, the US government should never be able to flat
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out shut down a business with no notice or explanation.
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Only to say sorry a couple of days later.
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It's done, this in the past and insisted that it would be more careful in the future,
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so far it doesn't appear to be living up to that promise.
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While these may be mistakes, the wider impact should be frightening to federal officials,
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then now actively scaring startups away from the US businesses at a time when they should
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be doing exactly the opposite.
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From TechDote.com, by Glenn Moody, date February 17, 2012, Australian government holds secret
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anti-piracy meetings, the public is not invited.
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As TechDote noted recently, policy making behind closed doors is no longer acceptable.
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Until the end of the 20th century, it was hard for the general public to make their
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views heard, and so governments didn't really bother asking them.
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But that's no longer the case, the internet has blown government wide open, and there is
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now no excuse for not consulting as widely as possible, including the public before passing
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legislation or signing treaties.
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That's a lesson that the Australian government seems not to have learned yet, judging from
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the following story.
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The federal government has reportedly held a second closed door meeting held between the
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content and telecommunications industries to address the issue of illegal file sharing
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on the internet through avenues such as BitTorrent.
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The first meeting took place at the end of last year, and as part of the content industry's
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attempt to circumvent the Australian court's refusal to order ISPs to act as a private copyright
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police force.
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According to another report, the argument now seems to be mainly about who will pay for
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a proposed graduate response, three strikes scheme.
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Quote once was familiar with the discussion said, local film industry representatives are
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concerned that the cost of operating graduate response schemes is too high.
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As was said, the content industry's response was to try to push the cost of managing infringement
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notices and an appeals mechanism for customers who felt they had been wrongly accused onto
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internet service providers, unquote.
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Never mind the fact that the content industry is not only one is kind of extrajudicial punishment.
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They wanted for free.
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What's really appalling here is that three strikes seems to have been settled upon without
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any qualms about whether it is fair, or would work, or whether it might be a good idea
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to conduct some research to find out.
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It's the usual evidence-free policy making that has been doubled this area for decades,
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but that's hardly surprising, since the most important stakeholder here, the public,
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wasn't invited to the meetings to offer its views on moves that would have a major impact
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on using the internet, on privacy, and on civil liberties.
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It's not only unacceptable, it's extremely unwise, in view of what the Australian government
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plans to do next, quote.
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If the content and internet industry's reach agreement on a scheme to deal with copyright
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infringement, the Attorney General's Department is expected to put a draft proposal out for
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public consultation, unquote.
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Given the way that such a draft proposal is being drawn up, any public consultation is likely
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to be seen as a sham, since the terms of the debate have already been set, and when
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the draft, with a few token but irrelevant tweaks, finally becomes law, guess how much
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public support that is going to have.
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News from iWW.org, RoarStory.com, the audio moment of clarity number 116, and tech.com,
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use them to arrange permission.
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News from eFF.org, and torrentfreak.com, use them to permission of the Creative Commons
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News from peoplesworld.org, use them to permission of the Creative Commons by Attribution, non-commercial,
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no derivative license.
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News from indibay.org, use them to terms of the web page.
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News from takewithsquare.net is copy left, translation from Greek courtesy, the Reddit community.
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News sources retain their respective copyrights.
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