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Episode: 997
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Title: HPR0997: Poorly Recorded Thoughts On Rural Computing
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Source: https://hub.hackerpublicradio.org/ccdn.php?filename=/eps/hpr0997/hpr0997.mp3
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Transcribed: 2025-10-17 17:07:13
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Hello, this is Lost in Bronx. It's been quite a while since I have uploaded
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an episode for HPR. Sometime last year I'm not sure when. I'm not counting the
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New Year's Eve special. I mean I was on that but everybody was on that that
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doesn't really count as an episode I don't think. I am doing a series on HPR called
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Theater of the Imagination which is kind of dedicated to the modern
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audio drama movement and my exploration of it but that isn't what today is
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just a very quick sort of examination, rumination if you would, about urban
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versus rural computing. That is to say the overall experience of living an
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online life or connected lifestyle, a computed lifestyle if you would in those
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two environments and I've done both. You know I used to live in New York City. I
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now live in a rural part of Arizona and I can tell you that the difference is
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striking and the limitations are tremendous. By and large just a quick my quick
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opinion by and large almost everything we read in tech media almost everything
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we read in even in the Linux world or the free open source software world almost
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all of that more or less reflects a more urban lifestyle and that's not to
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say that everyone listening isn't you know or is part of a an urban lifestyle
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that is to say they live in a big city somewhere that's not true I certainly
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dull and many of the contributors to HPR don't but many do and the fact of the
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matter is if you if you live in an urban environment and have lived there for
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an extended period of time. Odds are you either forgotten or you don't even
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know the kind of challenges that people that live in a rural environment have
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sometimes simply trying to participate in the latest and greatest that might
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be hitting the internet right we just recently within the last year so got
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a landline to our property before that we were using a Verizon wireless
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air card which was plugged into a router that all the computers in the house
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sidened off now this was just awful it was absolutely painfully slow worse than
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dial-up no lie worse than dial-up and absolutely unreliable the thing would be
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down three four times a week no explanation and they charged up the ask for it
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it was very expensive so eventually once we got a landline you know we dump that
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immediately and we've been golden ever since or have we because while we have a
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DSL line now it's on the low end of things so many of the things that I hear
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people participate in or take for granted you know we don't necessarily have
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that luxury there are some very strange elements to our connected this that we
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have to deal with now you can say well if your bandwidth is limited you could
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do you know there are alternatives there are things you could do you know in
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addition to surfing you can get your media through torrenting or things like
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that do you know what there's something weird about torrenting in that they you
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know if you're if you're not going to be a leech you have to enable uploading so
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that you can allow other people to grab bits of your file as you're going along
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right so that works fine except for the fact that unless I have that slow to a
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super crawl and I'm talking about less than you know a couple of kilobytes per
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second or whatever the hell it is however they measure that unless I have it
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really really really traveled badly my internet connection grinds to a halt now
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I'm not saying we have a great upload capability we don't we have a shitty one
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but if I enable that and it goes up to its max which might be 35 kilobytes
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per second or whatever it is I mean it's really dreadful for some reason our
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download capabilities just come to a screeching halt I'm not kidding right
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suddenly no one's pages load suddenly you can't get a file you were in the
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middle you were in the middle of downloading you can't even watch YouTube on
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the lowest you know settings it's just it's awful so torrenting I have to
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throttle it badly well I don't mind that honestly I don't really mind doing that
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I don't mind you know how I wouldn't mind taking a burden for nothing and
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giving nothing back I mean it does give me a slight quinge of conscience I
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suppose so I give them a slight amount of upload and and we're all copicetic as
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far as I'm concerned but that's just one example because my my internet
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connection is very limited now the speed isn't great but the service is the
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service tends to be very very solid it's from a local company called Frontier
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out here and they do they do a pretty good job all things considered the thing
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is it's the only game in town right satellite out here is really bad now I
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I've heard you know the reason we didn't jump to satellite and dumping Verizon
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wireless is that satellite service out here is even worse I hear it's really
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sketchy you know a windy day and the thing goes down you know the cloud comes
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out you can't connect it's just awful so you know I know it's not that way
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everywhere but out here it's got a very bad reputation however because it is
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rural that's what a lot of people are left with so we went with a slightly
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different a slightly different direction that was you know pretty damn
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painful in and of itself and very expensive but that's the past so currently
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we're dealing with a low-end DSL line that is nonetheless reliable well I'll
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tell you this reliability trumps speed or bandwidth or even data caps or anything
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like that every single time the fact that I know I can turn it on and it's
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going to be there that means more to me than almost any of it so why am I
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complaining well I'm not not really I'm trying to put this into perspective not
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just for you but for me one thing we can't do out here reliably is get a
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decent cell phone signal half the time I live in the white mountains reaching
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Arizona now if you don't know Arizona you might say mountains Arizona I thought it
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was all desert well it is I live in an area that's known as the high desert that
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is to say it's desert but it's in the mountains so we do get snow and we do get
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winters and we do get all of that because we're up about 7,000 feet here in
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elevation and the cell phone signals are not great and cell phone coverage despite
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what you might see in a map so you can go right to you know Verizon's coverage
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map that's crap that's nonsense don't believe that all right they're
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coverage here is disgusting and the others are worse that's the thing so try to
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get it you know you could pay for a nice data plan but you're never going to be
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able to take advantage of it not out here and I suspect there are quite a few
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places left in the world and certainly in the United States where that is
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also true so what does that mean that means we are missing out on the entire
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you know the entire movement of smartphones the entire movement of mobile
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computing that is gone for us right it doesn't work because I you know I don't
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have a connection that's good enough for that and it's too expensive anyway you
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know because they're you know we just we simply can't afford it and a lot of
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people here can't afford it and that means you know if you can't afford these
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ridiculous data plants these you know some of them are really outrageous for
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what they're offering you simply can't take part in it and if you can't take
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part in it and that is the way tech is you know the direction tech is going and
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has been going for some time now then you are behind the curve so that is
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another reason why living in a rural area with poor coverage of wireless
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data plans wireless you know cell phone sometimes just landlines if you live in
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those area you are living in a third world country when it comes to computing
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technology so what is the current state in America I don't know I don't have
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those statistics I could look them up but you know I don't even know where and I
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probably wouldn't understand them even if I did but I can tell you that it's
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challenge and it's still a mighty challenge and much of what people take for
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granted that I read in blog posts I read in articles that I read on the IRC I
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read in forums much of the experience the people take for granted I'm telling
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you it's not universal you know there are a lot of people out there that simply
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have no concept of the idea of mobile computing I'm one of them and because of
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that much of what people talk about even though you know I feel like I I
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participate to an extent in these kinds of conversations if only to make
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snarky commentary much of it just flies over my head because I have no
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experience with it and I'm not likely to anytime soon so what does that tell us
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I don't know I don't know it's just that when you are trying to maybe make a
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point about modern computing just understand that if someone doesn't get what
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you're talking about it might simply be because they've never experienced it
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and maybe never will this has been lost in Bronx and I hope to get another
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episode of theater of the imagination out within a couple of months but until
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then this will have to suffice take care
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