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+Episode: 1045
+Title: HPR1045: Genealogy
+Source: https://hub.hackerpublicradio.org/ccdn.php?filename=/eps/hpr1045/hpr1045.mp3
+Transcribed: 2025-10-17 17:53:16
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+Hello and welcome to Hacker Public Radio. My name is Mike Hingley and in this episode
+I'm going to be talking about genealogy. So I've been studying my family tree since
+the end of 2011. We got hold of a partial family tree from one of the air hunter companies
+and I've been trying to fill in the blanks because locally there was a company called
+Hingley's a Netherton and they're famous for making the anchors and chain for the Titanic.
+So I've been wondering if I am somehow related to those Hingley's and there's quite a number
+of cool ways we can use technology and software to actually fill in those blanks.
+So we're going to need somewhere to store our family tree and there's a couple of solutions
+for that. I'm currently using Ancestry that coded UK but there is a really cool program called
+Gramps which is available in most repositories. It's definitely available under Ubuntu. You can get
+it to work on Macintosh, Windows and Linux and you can download it from Gramps-project.org.
+I'm using Ancestry because I happen to have a free trial at the moment for six months.
+So I'm using that but you can extract from Ancestry and upload into Gramps. So I'm taking
+an advantage of that Ancestry backend to do the research for me. Ancestry is able to link
+your tree with other family trees that are also using Ancestry as well as other data sources such
+free BMD and census records. So I'm using that to flesh out my trees much as possible
+then I'll be exporting it and importing it into Gramps to maintain it going forward.
+So that's Ancestry.co.uk and Gramps-project.org.
+Ancestry itself uses a couple of web services and websites to provide its data. So here in the UK
+it uses information available on sites such as free BMD. So there's a website called free
+BMD.org.uk which is a volunteer based project to transcribe some of the government records.
+Since the registration of marriages became a legal requirement. There's been a government
+records office which is storing information about what marriages and births and deaths have taken
+place and all the certificates and records that are stored centrally. They can also be stored
+at a parish level but the free BMD.org.uk project attempts and is aiming to transcribe more of those
+so they can become searchable and that's what Ancestry uses to provide some of its research material.
+In addition there's another web project called UKBMD.org.uk which contains it's a project to
+transcribe all of the parish registers. So how do we use this in practice? Well I filled in
+what I knew of my family tree on Ancestry and there were a few blanks like I didn't know when
+my grandparents got married. I didn't know the date of that. So I popped on to West Midlands
+BMD.org.uk and let's say a local version of the UKBMD.org.uk database
+and I did a quick search for Annie Page and Horace Hingley and I found throughout all the whole
+database there were four records that matched the surnames but it was only one for a Horace Hingley
+and Annie Page and from that I was able to determine that they got married in 1942 in Rally
+Regis at St Jarl's Church and the registers for that were stored at the sandal register office.
+Using that information I was able to go to my local archives and pull the parish records
+for Rally Regis at St Jarl's Church and from that I was able to pull their marriage certificate
+and that was amazing to actually see my grandparents signatures on their marriage certificate.
+Brilliant, absolutely amazing feeling. I got a print out and it cost me 60 pence.
+I was able to take the home and scan it in and if you
+want to buy my family tree on ancestry.uk and you can see I think you can I'm not sure
+you'd be able to see their signatures, you'd be able to see my grandparents marriage certificate.
+Absolutely brilliant. It's a damn sight cheaper to buy those parish
+certificates than to go to the government records office or if you're doing it for ancestry,
+do it for ancestry. A marriage certificate or death certificate from government records
+office will cost you nine pounds and 25 pence to get a certificate from your local council will
+cost you approximately a tenor, what does do here. Getting one printed yourself from
+microfiche parish records 60 p. There's a big difference. Do that same thing for ancestry and
+it's 19 pence. So here's a piece of advice. If you aren't ancestry and you find a government
+record reference number for a certificate that you want don't bite through ancestry,
+take the information put to one side go to gyro.gov.uk to government records office and you can use
+the same code information there to buy the certificate 10 pence cheaper. Got to be right.
+Ancestry is also quite good because you can link to other family trees because
+ancestry itself is a collection of family trees. You can find other people who are also
+researching their family tree and where your family trees intersect. You can find things like
+photos and stories and all sorts of great stuff. So far I've been looking as I say since the end
+of last year and I've not found anything so far. My thoughts are that I probably aren't related
+to the Noah Hingley that settled Hingley's in Netherton. I'm just not that lucky.
+Hint's tips advice for people looking to start their own family tree. There are loads of guides
+go to sites like ancestry.uk. I know it's not particularly Hackerish to go to a site which
+sells the service of being a genealogy site but take their advice and use it yourself.
+So there's hints and guides about doing things like write down what you currently know
+and then talk to the people that are still alive in your family and get their information and
+record that. Don't forget to check out your local archives. They're a great source of information.
+For me it's one of the things that got me hooked was when I visited my local archive
+and was able to pick up my grandparents' marriage certificate. That was amazing.
+There are plenty of free websites out there to assist you in researching your family tree.
+We've already spoken about free bmd.org.uk and ukbmd.org.uk but you can also get access through your
+library to things like the 1911 census or even to ancestry itself using the UK Library membership.
+My local library has got a library membership with ancestry which means I could use it to research
+things like passenger lists to the US and immigration and immigration records. That kind of thing
+which I could get to under my current level of membership. So I'd like to say thanks for listening.
+Hopefully that's given you all the information you need to start researching your own family trees.
+Thanks. Bye.
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