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Episode: 1184
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Title: HPR1184: Installing Linux without a monitor
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Source: https://hub.hackerpublicradio.org/ccdn.php?filename=/eps/hpr1184/hpr1184.mp3
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Transcribed: 2025-10-17 21:16:26
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Hi everyone, this is CLAT2 and this is Hacker Public Radio. In this episode you're going
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to hear POKY, you know POKY, POKY being led through a, at the install of SONAR Linux,
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by SONAR's creator, Jonathan. So SONAR is a Linux distribution designed specifically
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for blind users, and in many ways, other users as well, with accessibility needs that just
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aren't usually met by an operating system by default. So this is a very cool project. You've
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probably already heard about it, so I'm not going to dwell on it, and besides POKY and
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Jonathan will discuss it a little bit in what you're about to hear. But I did want to
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kind of comment on this episode in general, because it's a topic that is kind of important
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I think. It's certainly important to me, but I have a unique, maybe a slightly unique position
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in all of this, because I know someone who is blind. I was raised by a blind person. So
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it's kind of one of those issues that, yeah, it would be important to me, right? Obviously
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it's important. I've got that blind person in my life, and I've got other, I've got
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a friend. I've had friends who are blind. I've got friends of friends who are blind. It's
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kind of, it's easy for me, as like Klaatu, who had this life experience, to be interested
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in this kind of topic. OK, to that end, I want to talk a little bit about, and this is
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going to sound like a little bit of a digression, but there's a point here. I want to talk a
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little bit about something that I noticed myself, just a couple of weeks ago, I was invited
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out to a basketball game of all things at a high school. Someone's younger sister was
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playing in a basketball game. Normally, I would not be caught dead at a basketball game.
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Please don't misunderstand me. This was an exception I made, because the person inviting
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me is a very cute girl that I wanted to hang out with. So we go to this basketball game
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to watch this sport, and it turned out that the two teams involved was one one high school
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student, group, one high school team versus another high school team, and one of those
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high school teams was the high school team of a school for deaf teenagers. And so it
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was very interesting to me, because I was watching these people do sports, thinking how
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cool would it be if I finally got around to that one thing on my, that's always been
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on my list, to go learn sign language, because I know, I know a couple of people who know
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sign language, and it always seemed like a really good skill to have. But as usual,
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you kind of fall back into your excuse mode, and you're like, well, if I learned sign
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language, who would I even talk to? I don't know anyone who's deaf, who would I practice
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with? It wouldn't be very easy to really become conversational with it. And so you deprioritize
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it almost as quickly as you are inspired to make it a priority. And then I kind of thought
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about that for the next week or two, and I thought, well, it might not be that if I learned
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sign language, instead of just having this skill that I would never possibly be able
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to use, what if in fact I had this skill that would then make it possible and maybe even
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inspire me to go meet more deaf people? Might that be the case? And in fact, I think it
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would be. I think that if I finally got around to learning sign language, I might actually
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be able to, I mean, now I could talk to deaf people, I could meet deaf people. Even if
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you're sitting there, or if I'm sitting here, and we're thinking, well, this computer
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project sonar is really important. We recognize that we're modern progressive people and we want
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people to be able to use computers. That's why a lot of us are using Linux. It's kind of
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an important topic for us. So in spirit, we support it. But at the same time, it's not a
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huge priority for me. I'm not going to put money towards the Indiegogo project for sonar
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to get off the ground, which by the way is located at indiegogo.com slash sonar because
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it's not something that I could really use. I'm not blind. I'm not deaf. I don't know
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any blind people. I don't know any deaf people. So it's something for other people. But
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now think about it. If you think about what would happen if you learned more about sonar,
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if you supported sonar and maybe even downloaded a disk image and installed it yourself like
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Poki is doing here while Poki is cheating because he has Jonathan helping him. But what
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have you did that? And you learned a lot about accessibility. And you learned why audible
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tones are annoying for you if you are deaf because you can't hear them and flashing
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screen giving you notifications a lot better. Or think about what would happen if you're
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sub blind. You have no monitor. It certainly does help to have that screen reader on all
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the time. That sort of thing. Think about how many people you could probably meet later
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on in life and be able to talk to them in ways that are intelligent about computer usage.
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You could tell them, hey, look, I'm not blind. I'm not deaf. I'm not whatever. But this
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great distribution called sonar and you can install it from the very moment that you download
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it and burn it to a disk. You can pop it into your computer and install it and then start
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using it. And it will it will meet all of your needs or it will meet these needs and you might
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still have to tweak this or that. That's a whole new level of kind of guruism that we kind of
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aren't ignoring. I think at least a lot of us are ignoring. I know I certainly am. I'm ignoring
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based on the fact that I'm not blind. I'm not deaf. I don't need this right now. So I'm not going
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to bother with it. But who knows, maybe we do need it right now. Maybe it's something that we
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should look into. Maybe we'll meet someone really cool later on because we know this kind of
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stuff. Maybe we'll be able to talk more intelligently about it later on. If this, if any of this
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interests you or kind of makes you think that some of this is more important than you might think,
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you know, more important than just have you got someone who's blind in your life. Maybe you don't
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need that in order to to prioritize the Sonar Linux project. So think about that. If you want,
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also listen to the rest of this episode because Pokey and Jonathan are going to embark on a
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journey to get this thing installed. Let's see how it goes. And remember to stop by IndigoGo.com
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slash Sonar to show some support. And yes, by support I mean cold hard cash. IndigoGo.com slash
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Sonar. All right. You ready to start then? Yes. Okay. I'm going to switch monitors now. So
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there'll be the point and no return. Did you already boot the the disk up or you haven't even done
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that yet? No, you get to hear it booting up. Everybody does. Now which one did you burn? We're on
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now. Actually, I have to hold bunch of them. But the one that that is working for me because I
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and it's not your fault. I always have trouble booting Ubuntu. The one that is working for me is
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a 1210 the i386 version. Okay. Just so I know what we're dealing with. Yep. I tried 1304 beta that
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hung up on some of the boot scripts. Now just to explain to the listener here, you told me that
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they're there's sort of a bug where it doesn't like to boot without a monitor plug in. So I just
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got to the like the holding page where it would say Ubuntu and then the little graphic goes on
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as you wait for something to happen. And I turn my monitor off there. So hopefully you'll
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okay. So for the listener, just to explain what's going on here, I'm Koki, you guys know me.
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And Jonathan's here. Hey, Jonathan. Hello. Thanks for having me on. Yeah. Well, thanks for having
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me on. It's kind of a cool up thing here. So for those who don't know, Jonathan NATO is
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a blind Linux user. Yeah. Put it up there. Here comes Orca in a minute or two. This is kind of
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a slow computer. Jonathan is a blind Linux user and he's been working with Linux and working to
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try and make it more accessible for quite some time now. He's got a lot of his personal time
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invested in this and he does a lot of work. Welcome to the podcast. We read the right references.
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Push up and there you go. Orca's up early. Okay. And did you understand what it just said there?
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Yeah. Orca screen reader preferences button. So right now if you press enter, it would bring you
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into the Orca preferences mode where you can change a myriad of things within Orca. You can set
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what type of keyboard you're using if you're on a laptop or desktop because depending on if you're
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using a desktop or a laptop will it'll matter because certain keys are certain places in either
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keyboard configuration. So you can set the keyboard configuration. You know, you can set whether or
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not you want to see that work a dialogue box pop up every time you can turn it on or off.
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If it turns off, it'll just boot up right into the desktop and you'll see the icons on the desktop
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or whatever. Right. And you can you can change just I mean, we can get into it at some other point
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or whatever you want, but you can change. Yeah, and everything. Yep. Yeah. No, I want to come back to
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it. I want to I want to explain what's going on first though. So yeah, Jonathan does a lot for
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the community for the Linux community and for the community that needs accessibility built into
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their computers and accessibility. Well, I mostly I think the biggest need is for the blind community
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since so much of the computer is done through the monitor that if you can see if you can at least
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see the monitor, there's a lot of work around. But if you can't see the monitor, you're kind of
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hard up and it kind of puts you in a bad situation in our society completely these days. So,
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you know, the big thing is getting the computer the computer to work when you can't see it. Now,
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there's a whole bunch of other accessibility that Jonathan's working on. He may be blind to
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the light spectrum that the most that most of the rest of us take for granted, but he's not
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blind to the fact that there's a lot of other people that have a hard time using computers
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besides just folks who can't see. So he does a lot of good work there. I am not blind. I don't have
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handicaps other than, you know, my own self-imposed ones, which you see all of them.
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But I'm going to try being blind tonight. I'm going to try to install this with no monitor,
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with, you know, as if I were a blind user without looking at a screen at all. So I've got my monitor
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turned off on this computer now and you just heard the computer boot up. I got my mic right next
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to the speakers here. It's a little bit of a kluji setup so that the podcast will work.
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But I'm going to see if I can even get through an install and maybe try using the computer
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even just a little bit without the use of a screen whatsoever. And, you know, see how difficult
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this is. And I really appreciate it. I know a Linux install is not the most exciting podcast,
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especially for an experienced user. But if you can stick around just to see what folks
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have to go through every day. And the real purpose for this is that Jonathan has got a fundraiser
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going right now on a, what's Jonathan wants to fundraise your website? It's Indiegogo.
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Okay, Indiegogo. I always think Kickstarter. This is Indiegogo. Yep.
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Dotcom. Yes, Indiegogo.com slash sonar. That brings you right to my, you know, fundraising
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campaign site. Okay, so Jonathan has put in so much personal time and personal money and
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effort into making this work for several years now. And it's time and the rest of us
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jumped in and helped out. And Jonathan's looking for a little bit of money on this Indiegogo startup
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page. And we got somewhere between four and five thousand downloads a day for hacker public
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radio. And if everyone who downloads this podcast and listens this far, well, I'm not listening
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to it. But if everyone who downloads this podcast went to Indiegogo.com slash sonar and donated five
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bucks, Jonathan's goal would be met. He's trying to get 20 grand up here money to be used towards
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development time for himself and for other developers. I mean, this is not all, you know, I don't
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because we talked last night, Jonathan, this isn't all money in your pocket. Yeah, no.
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I mean, I'm hoping some of it goes in your pocket because I know that you're working hard for
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and this and you're developing this from what I can tell. It sounds like you're doing a full time
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on top of several other full-time activities. Yeah, it's definitely keeping me busy and, you know,
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what I like to add in a couple of things here quickly. I'm pretty much, I think, done almost
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everything I can on my own. So that's the need for raising the money is to get people outside of
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myself to really bring it the last mile kind of type of thing. And, you know, whatever changes
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and advancements are made within sonar, everything will be pushed upstream and every other distribution
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will benefit from any advancements that are made with any assistive technology. So I want to
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make sure that, you know, people know that sonar isn't going to hoard any of, you know, any changes
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that are made. I'm a strong believer in pushing everything back upstream so that way everyone
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benefits. So I just want to make sure that's clear too. Right on, right on. So, you know, I think it's
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probably safe to assume we're all, you know, everyone listening right now is familiar with the
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concept of free software and Jonathan is very much a free software advocate. Yes.
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I mean, and I will vouch for that personally. I know I've known Jonathan a couple of years
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through the Linux community and through the Northeast GNU Linux Fest and I will vouch for Jonathan
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as being a free software advocate. So, you know, I trust him implicitly with my donation that I've
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made and I would just like to try to convince the hacker public radio listeners to chip in here.
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So that's what the goal of this particular podcast is and if what you've heard so far is enough
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and you're ready to go donate and you don't really want to hear me try to install, that's fine.
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If you're curious about the install and to hear what it sounds like and you don't want to go
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through it yourself, that's what we're about to do or if you want to try and go through it yourself,
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but think you might want to, you know, hear a couple of the tips and tricks and pitfalls on our
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way there. That's what we're about to do. So, I don't know, you think you think it's enough
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a print info there, Jonathan? Oh, yeah, I'm on the edge of my seat. I can't wait to see you go through this.
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Yeah, me too. I'm not quite sure. Okay, so the first thing is I can already tell you I'm
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going to have a hard time understanding Orca if it keeps talking that fast at me.
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You know, you know what, though, that's not even fast. That's at 50% speed.
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So I understand. I totally understand that someone who's used to hear in that, that's probably
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excruciatingly slow and you're waiting for it to get on with it, but I'm completely unfamiliar with,
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you know, operating a system with with no visual inputs here. Yeah, no problem. And just I feel
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listed as who that are, you know, that will hear this process. As you hear the voice, one of the things
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I want to do with, you know, raising the money for sonar is I really, I'm attempting to get a,
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you know, a more real human sounding voice than the, you know, the robot voice you're going to hear.
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So that's one of the things I want to do with raising the money is get a free software
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implementation of a good sounding voice synthesizer. There are some that exist currently,
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but they're proprietary and you have to pay license per user and things like that. So I want to
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completely skip that and create a completely free voice synthesizer that can be used by Orca
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and even other companies that might be interested in including, you know, voice synthesis and their
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devices and hardware, they would have a license free synthesizer that they could use.
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Right. So the bottom line is Orca's great. It's fantastic that something like Orca exists and
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can make the computer usable, but Orca sucks. It's, it's old. It's very difficult to understand
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compared to other modern voice synthesizers and we need a new one. We need a modern one that's
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easier to understand. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So basically where you're at Poke is, you know, you
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brewed off the live disk. Yep. We heard the little, we heard the little sonar, you know, intro
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thing as you boot as you log in. We heard Orca say welcome to Orca and you're on the preferences thing.
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Okay. So, so what we're going to want to do is, you could do one of two things. I guess we'll
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go with you being a, I need to slow work it down. That's the first thing I need to do.
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Okay. All right. So I guess you'll want to press enter.
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Orca screen reader, like, references, push button. Okay. Orca screen reader, frame, preferences, push button.
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Yeah. I think you might need to push enter one more time.
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There you go. Also, references, general page time. Okay. So now you're on the general,
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yeah, exactly. So now you'll write arrow. And now, okay. So if I start arrowing around,
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am I switching tabs or am I moving around within the tab? Picture. No, you'll be right now,
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you're in one tab, but when you write arrow over, you're going to be in another tab. Okay. Okay.
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So all right. Okay. So now you're on the voice page. Now you're going to press the tab key.
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Okay. And then move me. Okay. Yep. And you'll start moving through the tab. Yep.
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And that'll start moving me through the options inside the tab. Exactly. Okay. Yep.
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Voice type settings. I don't want to talk about it. So you'll go again, tab again.
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What did I couldn't even understand what it said there? Voice page settings. So right now,
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you're on default. You want to leave that there. You don't want to you don't want to bother with that.
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Okay. What does that change the sound of the voice? No, not there. Okay. It'll change something
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different, but you can just leave that there. Speak system. Speak system. So here it's the speech
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system. Okay. So the speech system is using speech dispatcher, which is the newest version of
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basically Orca needs speech dispatcher to talk to the system. If there is no speech dispatcher,
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Orca would it work? Okay. So there was a system before speech dispatcher, which was called
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gnome speech. Yep. But they deprecated that and now speech dispatcher took over. Is speech
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dispatchers that the voice itself or is that what ties? That's what ties everything together.
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That's what ties the visual cues into. Right. Even even mumble uses speech dispatcher.
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Okay. So. Speak system. So here's the synthesizer. That's exactly what makes the voice sound
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the way it does. Yeah, exactly. So if we had a new one in here in this tab, you would arrow through
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to choose like, you know, sonar synthesizer. And then that would give you a better sounding voice.
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Oh, this is what we were talking about. We need to work on. Yes.
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Yeah. So this is where we need some money folks to get a sexy British voice.
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Exactly. Or, or, or we could pay Peter 64 and have a sexy Australian voice.
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Good day. Good day. So right here is it's actually the language. So it's on the default is English,
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but there's literally if you went through this, there's I'm guessing 30 different languages. Orca
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currently can use. So there's Chinese, Vietnamese, Russian, Slavic, Italian, Spanish, you know,
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the Scottish. There's all kinds of stuff. Yeah. So yeah, you don't have to try to remember all 30.
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If if we got to the new voice that you're talking about, what that have to be written to accept
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all the different languages or those at different peace and it would just plug into that naturally.
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That I'm not sure. I almost want to say it would have to be completely redone, I think,
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unfortunately, just because there's different sounds in different languages in English.
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Exactly. Right. Right. We got to get to roll its hours like ruin Rodriguez. Exactly.
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That guy was so cool. All right. Right. 65. Okay. That's great. Right here. Now if I
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see your left left arrow and all decreases. Sixty four. Sixty three. Sixty two. No,
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I might be okay. How do I test it? I guess really you would just kind of tab and see if you
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like how it sounds after that. Okay. This side of I come to the other side of 10 come to the other
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global voice settings panel. Right. Speak into chunks. It's important. Check object. I think I can
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handle that. What was that about breaking pauses? You can set Orca to like you can tell to like
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if there's like a space or like a period, it can do its best at reading like a human word.
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That's what it is. Or you can tell it. Ignore the spaces. Ignore the paragraph and just read
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flat out as fast as you can. No, no. I can't handle it. No. Okay. I think I probably handle
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words that speak multiple things with. Okay. So just keep tabbing through and you'll see
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you'll see apply changes. Okay. So you just can enter on that when you get to it.
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My sentence combo box. I didn't understand a word.
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Hell. Okay.
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There you go. Orca. Use the settings. Reload with Orca. We leave a thread one on focus night long.
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Okay. Okay. So now you can either left click on your mouse. Okay. Do the left click on
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the mouse button or on the number pad, you can press what's on the number pad, not the top left
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button, but the one to the right of that. That would be a. Okay. Well, five is the center button with
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the. So like like on the grid of number pad on the number pad, the top left hand button,
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one to the right. That performs a left mouse click. Oh, okay. That's a forward slash on my
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number pad. So you can press that. Okay. All right. And then get anything. No, you didn't try
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a left mouse click on your mouse. There you go. Okay. I had to move the mouse around a little bit.
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Okay. So then now press the down arrow. We hate to use that. Oh, wait. You actually like
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right click. There's something. Press the escape button on the keyboard. That's a flame. I can
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use it. There we go. Now press the down arrow. Okay. Compute and I can press down again.
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So my come. Oh, there you go. Yeah. Press down one more time. I come down two more times.
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That's probably messed up. Yeah. One more like I'm installed. So not 12.20. Okay. I'm on my
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duration. I like I'm okay. I'm on the desktop. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Okay. I'm right out this
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though. So now you're on the install sonar icon. So you can press enter. I did. And I can hear
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the CD working. Yeah. It's it's not depending depending on the computer. I can take
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her along. It's all right. There you go. Okay. So now right now and you're starting the install
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process and you're choosing your language and it's only English by default. Yep. You can press tab
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here. Okay. It's push button tab again. What did it say? It said quick. Oh. Continue push
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button. Right. There you go. Then just press enter. Okay. So continue push button.
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Continue push button. So I'm using the party software to play Flash MP3 under the media.
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I'm to work with some graphics. I'm like I hardware. Some of this software is with my
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I mean the software is not that I sometimes include it with its documentation. Install this
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with party software. Check off. It's not checked. Do not check that box. Right. Right. Right.
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Okay. So let me ask you a question. Is there all right. So first thing. How do I get
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orchid to repeat what it just said? Is there a key to do that or something? Yeah. I mean
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normally what I do is I just like press tab and then press shift tab. Okay. And that goes
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back. So I'm using the party software to play Flash MP3 under the media and to work with some
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graphics. And why I hardware. Some of this software is with my the software is some
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that's the license terms included with its documentation. Install this with party software.
|
||||
Check off. It's not checked. Right. Okay. So now my next I go ahead. Yeah. My next question is
|
||||
then. Is it's mostly keyboard driven? Then there's there's not a whole lot of mouse
|
||||
and going on. It's totally keyboard. No mouse at all. Okay. All right. Now I was my I was under
|
||||
the impression. I was assuming that when you move the mouse around it would like tell you what's
|
||||
under the arrow. What's under the pointer? What was on the screen? But no a lot a lot of people
|
||||
don't realize that with the keyboard you can literally do everything on a mouse with the keyboard.
|
||||
Like I was telling you with like the numpad on a desktop that to the right one of the top left.
|
||||
That's a left mouse click. One to the right over is a right mouse click. And if you're using
|
||||
a laptop you would press the cap slot key and the number seven would be a left click and
|
||||
cap slot key and the number eight would be a right click. Okay. So here you can press the arrow key
|
||||
down. All right. Hold on a second. Let me get my bokeh. That was the key. So you really all right.
|
||||
So you have no idea what's on your screen. Unless you just kind of arrow around and tab around
|
||||
exactly. Exactly. That's balls. All right. All right. Let me see what I can do without
|
||||
without being walked through. Let me see what I can do. Okay. Sure.
|
||||
I use the pop-up software to click push button. Pop up push button. Great. Continue push button.
|
||||
And is there a way to get it to speak the window title at me? Uh I don't know what you mean.
|
||||
Just to refresh my memory of what what the hell's in the window already other than the options.
|
||||
like it seemed like every time I opened a new window it would tell me what the
|
||||
window is that I'm working with. Yeah I'm not sure how to answer that because
|
||||
I you know I had the last computer that I saw was a Commodore 64 so I don't
|
||||
know how to explain I mean I'm so I'm so used to doing this though I can
|
||||
literally you know go through this like set up menu process in like five
|
||||
minutes like I just fly through it because I'm used to it. What if I so? What if I
|
||||
tried to like alt tab would it would that give me that might just bring you
|
||||
back to the desktop and like you know I'm saying let me bring you back to this
|
||||
window right all right let me try that and let me hear if it tells me because we
|
||||
read that. See your back of the desktop.
|
||||
I've been accessible install. They are back on the continual button. That's what I
|
||||
wanted. Okay was the install frame. All right. So I'm using the
|
||||
continual button, continual button. All right.
|
||||
And so here like most people probably know like what they want to do based
|
||||
systems however here as you start to fill out the next part of the system it's
|
||||
really kind of installing stuff in the background as you're going that's why it
|
||||
sends zero percent. Yeah yep yep you know yeah no this part is actually not hard
|
||||
to understand as as a newly blind user because the CD makes the sound of a
|
||||
progress bar. Exactly. That's a joke for anybody. Continue push
|
||||
button. Continue push button. Continue push button.
|
||||
They might want to have a better system on it. What would you like to do? Panel
|
||||
installs are alongside them. Selected radio button. They raise this and
|
||||
install so up. Selected radio button. Something else. Selected radio
|
||||
button. Okay space bar. Well let's select it or don't get it enter on that.
|
||||
You would hit enter. Okay. Panel. Combo Mods.
|
||||
Sashments, S-S-D-A, scroll pane. Table. The mice column have a Sashments S-S-D-A
|
||||
table. New partition table not not not push button read.
|
||||
Create a new partition table on this device. You have selected an entire device
|
||||
to partition. If you proceed with creating a new partition table on the
|
||||
device then all current partitions will be removed. Note that you will be able
|
||||
to undo this operation later if you wish. Go back push button.
|
||||
Just so everyone understands and gets the warm fuzzies about this this hard drive
|
||||
has some windows on it. I don't know. This is a computer I found so
|
||||
I get to wipe out windows and I feel good about that. Well you could you could
|
||||
just went back. If you go back instead of doing something else the
|
||||
there is an option that says a race entire disc. Oh yeah I know but I
|
||||
I like to read partition. Oh okay okay. You know I like to put my home on a separate
|
||||
partition and I want to see if I can get that done.
|
||||
Okay yeah no problem. You know if it comes down to be
|
||||
in you know hampered by you know the lack of my ability to see right now
|
||||
then there's work to be done and you know that's what people need to understand.
|
||||
Come to new push button. Install right new partition table not
|
||||
not push button. It's level pain. All right so scroll pain does that mean
|
||||
that's where I would scroll around if I was using the mouse?
|
||||
Right and if I did that would it would or could tell me more?
|
||||
To be honest I've never tried an error bother because I never use the mouse. I don't
|
||||
know. Right okay. Table. The mice column have us as
|
||||
the A table. New partition table not not not push
|
||||
button. Create a new partition table on this device. You have selected an
|
||||
entire device to partition. If you proceed with creating a new partition table
|
||||
on the device then all current partitions will be removed.
|
||||
Note that you will be able to undo this operation later if you wish. Go back
|
||||
push button. Continue push button. Install right new partition table not
|
||||
not not push button. It's level pain. And she's telling me the same thing
|
||||
over and over again I'm lost in the window. Oh no it was
|
||||
table. The mice column have us as the A table.
|
||||
I think you'll click on SDA there to create the partition.
|
||||
I think so while it didn't enter didn't do it.
|
||||
It's space bar is not selecting it. But try doing um
|
||||
using your num key again. Try uh like I said the the top left hand corner
|
||||
and then go to the right. That would perform a right click. Maybe you need to do
|
||||
that. New partition table not not not push left
|
||||
table. It's level pain. Install out push left and
|
||||
out push left and push left and such as the iCombo mobs
|
||||
with push left and okay what does it mean when it says a combo box is
|
||||
there. Options inside that that I need to get
|
||||
Yeah we can try there on the color box um normally I
|
||||
hold the space bar down and then press the arrow key down.
|
||||
Comes installed right click push left and
|
||||
no click push left and install out push slow pain
|
||||
table. The mice column have a free case.
|
||||
Partly go. Okay. Create partition size and be type for the new partition.
|
||||
Location for the new partition. You have month point
|
||||
size 250,000 and 59 selected spin button.
|
||||
Type for the new partition. Type for the new partition.
|
||||
Plyler with selected radio button. Location for the new partition.
|
||||
Location for the new partition. Beginning of this case.
|
||||
Selected radio button. You have x4.9 file system combo mobs.
|
||||
Month point combo mobs text. Install frame table.
|
||||
50% 100%. No okay that didn't just do that one. It's
|
||||
scroll pain. Install out push right and scroll pain
|
||||
table. The mice column have a such that such as the a
|
||||
table new partition table not not not push
|
||||
button. Remember push button brain.
|
||||
Sashvets as the a combo mobs.
|
||||
When it is installed frame. Sashvets as the a combo mobs.
|
||||
Window. Sashvets as the a. Install frame. Sashvets as the a combo mobs.
|
||||
All right. Window. Sashvets as the a1.
|
||||
Install frame. Sashvets as the a1 combo mobs.
|
||||
Click push button. Add push button.
|
||||
I'm almost there and I can install out push
|
||||
button. Keep it in the wrong thing I think.
|
||||
Scroll pain table. New partition table not not not
|
||||
push button. Create a new empty partition table on this
|
||||
device. You have selected an entire device to
|
||||
partition. You receive with creating a new
|
||||
partition table on the device. Then all current
|
||||
partition will be removed. Note that you will be
|
||||
able to undo this operation later if you wish. Go
|
||||
add push button. Continue push button.
|
||||
Install frame. New partition table not not not
|
||||
push button. Zero percent. Scroll pain. Page time.
|
||||
Table. The mice column pepper sashvets as the a
|
||||
table. The mice column pepper three days.
|
||||
Install 100 percent. The mice column pepper sashvets as the a.
|
||||
Yeah, man. Yeah, I can't help it here. I don't bother
|
||||
usually setting up my partition. So no, you just do it.
|
||||
Yeah, yeah, I just don't. Yeah, usually.
|
||||
Sashvets as the a1. I don't hop around.
|
||||
Disco hop too much. And what I do, I just back up my
|
||||
home partition anyways and. Right, yeah.
|
||||
Blow it away and just start over. Okay. Well, push button.
|
||||
Read it. If I ever practice doing it, I can play. I mean, I know it is
|
||||
possible, but I've just never bothered doing it. Yeah, no, that's fine.
|
||||
Table. Zero percent. I'm not sure what the percentages I don't
|
||||
ever recall seeing anything about percentage.
|
||||
Maybe that's the percent of the disc that's I've chosen to use.
|
||||
Yeah, it might be. All right, because I just chose to revert.
|
||||
All right, I'm going to give this one more try. And if it doesn't work,
|
||||
I'm going to back up and do the whole disc.
|
||||
Just just to not waste any more time with the podcast.
|
||||
New partition table, not not not push button.
|
||||
Create a new limited partition table on this device.
|
||||
You have selected an entire device to put it.
|
||||
Install frame. New partition table, not push button.
|
||||
I don't want to do it. Install in a root file system.
|
||||
Wow. Okay, shit. Install frame.
|
||||
12 pane table. The mice column.
|
||||
Hevers. Ashmen.
|
||||
Ash SDA table.
|
||||
The mice column.
|
||||
Hevers. Ashmen.
|
||||
Ash SDA one size 241, 247 selected.
|
||||
It's important.
|
||||
All right. How do I enter text here, do you know?
|
||||
Well, I think from here, did you tab to get there or
|
||||
did you arrow to get there? I tab.
|
||||
I believe here in this box, it's like, you know,
|
||||
dialogue box, whatever. I believe you can either arrow.
|
||||
I don't know if it would be either left, right, or up or down.
|
||||
Because you could just change the numbers.
|
||||
Because it's already set at like, whatever it's set to.
|
||||
Yeah, that's 200, 250 gig is.
|
||||
Right. Yeah. So you could probably just like, like I said,
|
||||
it's either left or right to decrease it or up and down.
|
||||
Yeah, it's well, I remember it's up and down from the installer.
|
||||
So I would guess I would just press down here and you shouldn't.
|
||||
But this is where I usually, if I'm if I'm doing this with a mouse
|
||||
in my eyes, this is you at school.
|
||||
No, I wouldn't even. I just type a new number.
|
||||
I would you could probably just try type one here and see if it does it.
|
||||
I'm not on.
|
||||
To 20. I.
|
||||
252, 20. I thousand.
|
||||
All right. That's what I'm looking for. There you go.
|
||||
You have to not use the partition combo box.
|
||||
In here with this cancel. You have to not use the partition combo box.
|
||||
Right now, here in a combo box. And it said,
|
||||
use the partition as. And the selection you're on right now is
|
||||
don't use this partition. Okay. So let me try. So I can try type in here.
|
||||
This sounds like where I should be able to type.
|
||||
What would you normally type here? Slash. Okay. Go ahead.
|
||||
All right. So it gives me no confirmation that I've typed.
|
||||
I would try the arrow key down and see if it gives you an option.
|
||||
Okay. How about the arrow key up?
|
||||
Is it a volume for intuition? Try up again.
|
||||
Swap out. Yeah.
|
||||
MTFS, FIT. Oh, this is. Oh, this is just a partition type.
|
||||
Okay. I was thinking it was uh,
|
||||
start actually moving this believe it or not because we're just said that the
|
||||
box is not checked that was just a space bar to check the box. Yeah sorry sorry I
|
||||
know I see doing it pretty quick I was like hey he's getting the hang of
|
||||
already. This is funny that you can see what I'm doing and I can't. Yeah it's
|
||||
funny. All right yeah now you know here is where you could just type in the
|
||||
slash I believe you're already in the box right now. All right so I just hit
|
||||
slash. I'm talking slash combo box. There you go. Okay so it's a slash combo
|
||||
box. Is that mean it slashes what's in the combo box? Exactly. Exactly.
|
||||
Text slash detected. So you're still kind of in that like you're not in the
|
||||
combo box but it's telling you slash has been selected. Oh yeah I did it a
|
||||
shift to have to go back to see what it would say if I went forward again I'm
|
||||
gonna go back one more and then go forward again. Hold on to the position check
|
||||
object month point combo object slash selected month point slash combo box.
|
||||
Yeah it's repeating the same thing I'm not sure if it shows that twice or not
|
||||
on the screen but it's basically telling the same things twice. Okay.
|
||||
Comes up with nothing. Okay push nothing. All right there's only one thing that I
|
||||
remember from this box that I'm not here and it's there I guess I'm not seeing
|
||||
it is what I should say. The one thing I'm not here and it usually asks if I
|
||||
want to if I want SDA one to be at the beginning of the drive or the end of
|
||||
the drive. So I'm gonna say. I think that was that you did go by that but I don't
|
||||
think it was audibly asking you that. I don't think it might not have been
|
||||
reading a part of the screen maybe because there was that section where you
|
||||
went from SDA to SDA one and maybe in that area that you might build a position
|
||||
where it is but again I have no that was that was the where where where I
|
||||
tabged past SDA to SDA one. I remember from the installer that's a different
|
||||
window. Okay. And this is like a what do you call a context window. Okay.
|
||||
That comes up within that. So let me scroll to this one more time. Sorry it's
|
||||
taking me so long. Not a problem. I'm going to have a view of X4 the format
|
||||
of the partition. Check out month point, month point, sash from the cancel push
|
||||
nothing. Okay push nothing. I'm going to have a view of X4 format of the
|
||||
partition, month point, month point, cancel push nothing, okay push nothing.
|
||||
Install frame table. Okay. The ice column have a sash then sash SDA two.
|
||||
But we don't have a table. Sash then sash SDA one. Sash then sash SDA.
|
||||
Sash then sash SDA one. Sash then sash SDA two. All right. You do not use the
|
||||
partition combo mods. Physical volume for encryption. Swap area. FAT32
|
||||
file system. FAT16 file system. XFS donate in file system.
|
||||
FFS donate in file system. BDRFS. Reiser. FFFX2. FFX3. X4 donate in
|
||||
file format of the partition. Check what's not checked. Checked. Month point.
|
||||
combo mod set. Here's where you typed in the slash. Month point.
|
||||
Sash then combo mods. There you go. Yeah. Okay. Council push nothing.
|
||||
Okay push nothing. Use X4 donate in file system.
|
||||
combo mods. Full method of partition. Check what's checked. Month point.
|
||||
combo mod set. Month point. Sash then combo mods.
|
||||
Council push nothing. It's not asking me how much
|
||||
size it should be though. Oh yeah. You're right.
|
||||
Okay push nothing. Because if I just hit okay now,
|
||||
I'm going to have a route in a home partition and no swap space.
|
||||
Yeah. You didn't on the SDA two. I didn't see that same
|
||||
section where when you're with SDA one where you chose the size.
|
||||
Yeah. I'm going to try to go back and try that. I'm not sure why that didn't offer.
|
||||
Or maybe you know arrow through it. Use X4 donate in file format of the partition.
|
||||
Month point. combo mod set. Sash then selected. I think that's what I think I have to
|
||||
arrow point. Sash cancel push nothing. Okay push nothing. Use X4
|
||||
method of partition. Check what's checked. Month point.
|
||||
combo mod set. Sash then Sash. Month point. Sash then combo mods.
|
||||
Text. Sash then selected. Blank. No. Yeah. I think it was before you
|
||||
did this is when you chose the size and then you went to this.
|
||||
You know, portion of month point. Sash then combo mods.
|
||||
Console push nothing. You might have to go back in full grain table.
|
||||
You might still have a Sash then Sash SDA one. Yeah. Sash then Sash SDA.
|
||||
Sash then Sash SDA one. Sash then Sash SDA two.
|
||||
Sash then Sash SDA one. That's weird that it's offering me SDA two at this point.
|
||||
Because usually you have to go to new to create SDA two.
|
||||
Yeah, it's true. It just kind of automatically did it.
|
||||
Yeah. Oh, great. Well, I guess once we change their installer for 12, 12, 12 10.
|
||||
Sash then Sash SDA one. Sash then Sash SDA one.
|
||||
Oh, man. I wonder if it's going to automatically create Swapspace in there somewhere.
|
||||
Type column head of path 32. Month point column head of land.
|
||||
Format column head of checkbox not checked.
|
||||
Sash column head of eight thousand eight hundred and one. There you go.
|
||||
Format. No, that's a checkbox not checked.
|
||||
Sash column head of eighth hundred and one envy.
|
||||
Insert egg e Friday. Yeah, that's okay. Pushordin use the partition envelope odds.
|
||||
Council push written took a push Wasn't use that.
|
||||
do not use a partition tomorrow wise.
|
||||
Physical volumeろうon question swap area Fat 32 rupees F a statistics кад for
|
||||
three dot that started passionate system. You can make that 8 gigs the swap.
|
||||
Yeah, that's true. We don't have to buy two-piles system. We either have a
|
||||
beston A-line file system. We do have a beston A-line F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-A-T-S-T-F-T-F-T-F-T-F-T-S-T-F-F-T-Swap A-We-T.
|
||||
Yeah, you're right. You're absolutely right. It's what to do with it. I normally wouldn't give it eight
|
||||
cases.
|
||||
Yeah, okay, all right.
|
||||
Okay, push Newton. You have to swap A-We-Cumble Mods.
|
||||
All right. So swap area.
|
||||
Cancel push nothing, okay push nothing, cancel push nothing, okay push nothing, install frame table
|
||||
size column header 241,000. Yeah, there's the remaining remainder of your format column header check
|
||||
box not checked, month point column header blank format column header check box not checked.
|
||||
Now I'm, if you'll forgive me, I'm just arrowing around blindly here. I'm not,
|
||||
there doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to, if I hit tab, I seem to be getting a different set of
|
||||
options every time depending on where I've arrowed to. That's kind of the trick. Once you get used to
|
||||
the way certain things work, because tabbing an arrow, kind of like they can do similar tasks,
|
||||
but sometimes those tasks are reversed based on the program in the window. Right, or like sometimes
|
||||
say if you're like the best way I could describe it is like say if you're in a web page and you're
|
||||
in a like a particular box in the web page, you could, you would arrow through the box,
|
||||
but if you tabbed, you'd be tabbing through other boxes on the web page. Right, so that's kind of
|
||||
like that might be a sort of what's happening here is, you know, you might hit tab, it'll bring
|
||||
you somewhere you can see before, but if you press arrow in another spot, you might see something
|
||||
you wouldn't see because you tab over it. All right, so the lesson here for everybody is if you're
|
||||
going to be blind, learn to use your keyboard without the mouse first. Yes, exactly.
|
||||
New partition table, not not not not push button, slash, slash SDA combo box.
|
||||
Okay, so I hit tab and I got to the new partition table and I know from going through this 18 times
|
||||
now that I can arrow down to the, I can arrow down to the like the SDA three or whatever particular
|
||||
position. Yeah, yeah, Passwords par row, S or SDA.
|
||||
I think I might have just deleted the cate!
|
||||
270ereWon.
|
||||
Okay, just a tuned to be there.
|
||||
Mark push button, install nerede Hmm when we're paying table format column header checkup
|
||||
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||||
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||||
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||||
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||||
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||||
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