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Episode: 1277
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Title: HPR1277: Icecast 102
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Source: https://hub.hackerpublicradio.org/ccdn.php?filename=/eps/hpr1277/hpr1277.mp3
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Transcribed: 2025-10-17 22:50:15
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This is Hacker Public Radio.
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Hi everyone, this is Katsuh and this is Hacker Public Radio and this is the second part
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in my ice cast series, many series.
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Very many series, probably this is probably, I don't know, last or second of the last episode
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in this series.
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The continuation ice cast, so in the previous episode, if you'll recall, we set up ice cast,
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the streaming server, the thing that creates the stream, the conduit through which all
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data flows to your listeners.
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And we also set up and configured and turned on the ice's streaming source, meaning
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the thing, the application that takes a look at your hard drive, finds some music to play,
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plays it into the conduit that ice cast has created for us.
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We used ISIS, the original, for the MP3 stream, for all the users of non-free browsers and
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media players, and then we set up the current ISIS application to handle an aug stream
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for the people with modern and free browsers and media players.
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We also generated a quick and dirty HTML5 web front end for all of our listeners so that
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they can open their old familiar application, the web browser.
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They can go to your site, whatever it may be, and they can click the play button, and
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they get the music no matter what.
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It doesn't matter if they're on the non-free browsers or the free browsers.
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It'll just play your stream.
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They will hear it on their computer.
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They will be placated because they now are entertained.
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It's quite easy when you think about it.
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I've just summed it up in about a minute, and it doesn't really take that much effort
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amazingly because it used to be one of the most puzzling things that computing ever had
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to offer for me, but now I kind of understand it, or at least I understand how to set it
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up.
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What we're going to do today is take a look at some of the ways to manage your little internet
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radio station, and we're also going to look at alternatives to the ISIS and ISIS solutions.
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Note that there's anything wrong with the ISIS and ISIS solutions.
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It is just that ISIS really does one thing, and it does it well, but it does one thing,
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and that is it looks for something called playlist.txt in the designated folder, and it plays everything
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that's listed there, and when it reaches the end, it stops playing, or it might loop around.
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I don't remember.
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But it's not a terribly dynamic system in terms of, I think it loops, I actually know
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that I'm thinking about it.
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It actually loops.
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It quits if there's some weird error, like you're trying to play a PDF.
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But yeah, anyway, point is, it's not the most dynamic thing, and there's weird things
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like, let's say you have a playlist of, let's just say, three songs.
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Maybe they're really long songs.
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They're yes songs.
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So there's three songs, and they're playing, and then you decide, well, I really only
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want two songs, so you delete one of them.
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Well now ISIS gets confused, because it thought there were three items in this playlist,
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and so then it starts skipping around, getting the wrong song, thinking it's in a different
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place.
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So it's not the easiest thing to actually kind of dynamically create these playlists.
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What I used to do was just concatenate, concatenate, concatenate, but that still makes it difficult
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because if you mess up or if you accidentally, you know, if you take a line out of not
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where you're currently playing, then you've thrown everything off, and it gets kind of messy.
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It's also difficult to know where it is in the playlist.
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There's no indicator, right?
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It's just a text file, so it's hard to get kind of a status of, hey, ISIS, what song are
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you on right now?
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I mean, it's not impossible, but it's not the most fluid thing in the world.
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So we're going to take a look at some of the alternatives.
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We're also going to take a look at some of the shell scripts that I wrote to manage the
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ISIS and ISIS-CC workflow, because it was working for me for a very long time.
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I really enjoyed it.
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I set up a little internet radio station and sat down and just generated a bunch of shell
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scripts that would help me manage my playlists, my album directories, and a couple of other
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things, and it worked really well, because I could SSHN from anywhere in the world.
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I could make sure that my playlists were populated and stuff like that.
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If I'd been a little bit more dedicated to the idea, I probably could have done even
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more, like come up with scripts to calculate how much time this chunk of playlist would
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last for, and all these other things.
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But in the end, I decided not to use them, because I did need something a little bit
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more, quote unquote, user-friendly, because I needed other people to take over when I wasn't
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around.
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So, I guess let's start with those shell scripts, because they're simple, and I'll include
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them in the show notes, and they were working, as I said, for quite some time, but it was
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totally working just fine for me until it didn't.
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Okay, so there's a couple of different ones that I want to talk about, so we'll start
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with the first one called laser tag.
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Laser tag is a one-liner, pretty much, it's actually a little bit more than a one-liner,
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but basically it's a one-liner, it was a script that I adapted from a one-line command
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that I used, ID3, V2, 4, so that was a lot of numbers, but actually it wasn't, it was
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ID3, V2, that's the program that I used.
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So this was a tagger to, it would look in a directory that was named artist name underscore
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album title, it would look in that directory, it would figure out what the album name was
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from the second field in the directory name, it would figure out what the artist name
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was from the first field, and then it would tag all of those songs by that artist and
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that album, and also the song titles, so if the track titles were things like track1.org,
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track2.org, then it would just tag the track title as basically the file name, track1,
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track2, not very useful, but if they were named a little bit more logically like by the
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song title, then it would tag the thing as titles, so I did that just to get metadata
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so that the people's audio players and stuff could pick up on the metadata if they did
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things like that, and a lot of them do, so you might want to go through and make sure
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that all of your files are tagged, and that would be one way to do it.
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Of course in order for that to work, you have to make sure that there are no spaces in
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the song titles, so I generated a quick and dirty spacer tool, which is truly quick and
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dirty, it's just a, again, sort of a one-liner, it's just for this title, said everything
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with space, with an underscore, and then you're done, I probably could have done that
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with TR, but I did it with said, I don't care, I regret nothing, and then the real winner
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here I guess was the GenList, which is something to generate a small self-contained playlist
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from a directory, so I would execute GenList against a directory that contained, I don't
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know, let's say an album by the hormones, so you've got the hormones, you've got a live
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at that moon dog in, it's one album by the hormones, so it's the hormones underscore, live
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at moon dog cafe or whatever it's called, and then you can GenList that, and it generates
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a list of all of the track titles in that directory, and of course it does it with full
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path names, one title per line, and then you can generate another list from another directory,
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and it concatenates it to that, and it concatenates the next one to that, so you're building this
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long playlist, which you can then concatenate into the actual live on-air playlist.txt.
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I also popped in a couple of station IDs between every directory, and I just, like I said,
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concatenate concatenate concatenate, and that way ISIS is basically always playing this playlist.txt,
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and before it gets to the bottom of that playlist.txt, I'm concatenating new albums in, so it keeps
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going. At the time that I was managing this little internet radio station in this way, I'm still
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doing the internet radio station, but at the time that I was doing it with these shell scripts,
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I also had a new day list, which was going to move the current playlist.txt to an archive,
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so that I would have a record of everything that played, and then it was going to move a fresh one
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into place, into playlist.txt, and it would just keep going. I never really ironed that out,
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because I never got, by the time I was at that stage, I just kind of figured that no one,
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but me, was going to be able to ever actually use this, and I did want more people to be able
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to become DJs, so that I didn't have to generate playlists every single day of the week for 365 days
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a year. Eventually, I did abandon this, and again, that's why I'm going to go over some
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of the alternatives, because there are a couple of really good ones out there, and I think the
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probably the easiest one, possibly, I don't know, in my mind, it's kind of the, yeah, it's the
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easiest and quickest, and yet it really, really does, it does work, is MPD, and this is a tip that
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I got from Delwin, and Delwin, I know from like IRC, I know him from a technical conference,
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and he's also the, someone who hosts the multimedia sprints for me, version 1 and version 2,
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he's a great guy, he discovered somehow that MPD, a music player demon, I'm sure you've probably
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heard of it, you've probably used it possibly, it's a really great little tool, a lot of people just
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have it in their home, on a home server, MPD, it's just kind of their music server, and it's dreams,
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and you can have all your little local network computers listening to that home server for,
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for all of the music, so you've got your own little internet radio station in your, in your house,
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in the latest editions, or latest versions of MPD, they're actually wired, they're already pre-programmed
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to be able to talk to icecast as one of the output options, yeah, so now you don't have to just
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stream MPD, you can use MPD to play music, and then to stream it out to icecast, meaning that
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you get not only a great backend MPD, but you also get a really great set of front ends that have
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been around for quite some time, so one of the front ends that I use is called, and this is a
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great name, but it's N-C-N-P-C-P, so it's incurses music player C++, that's kind of how you have
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to remember it, N-C-N-P-C-P, and it's an incurses front end to MPD, so you can SSH into the server,
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running MPD, so in this case that would be your icecast streaming server, good SSH into it,
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fire up N-C-N-P-C-P, and manage your playlists in a pretty darned familiar kind of model, like, oh,
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here's your music library, here's a playlist that you can build up, and it's kind of very interactive
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and very, very easy to use, and it avoids hacked together shell scripts like the ones that I was using.
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It's also a little bit more user-friendly if you could swindle someone into going near
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a terminal long enough to teach them N-C-N-P-C-P-P, I could see that really working for you,
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if that's not going to work for you, there's another front end to this, and it's called G-M-P-C,
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that's G as in G-T-K-M-P-C, like, music player, client, I guess, is probably what it stands for,
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it's a really slick looking application as well, really easy to set up, again, if you've got MPD
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installed and working, and streaming to icecast, then you can use G-M-P-C-2-Thin Interface with it,
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it's a G-T-K application, so you install it on anything with a desktop, and people can sit down,
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and it's a very, sort of, iTunes-E kind of model, you know, it's, again, your music library,
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a bunch of playlists, you can build the playlists, move them into order, and people who can drag
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and drop can use it, I mean, that's great. Most people can do that, they can kind of, they can
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get that into their routine, so that's a really nice one as well. Okay, so enough talk, let's
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figure out how to get this MPD thing installed in the first place. Again, MPD, it's easy to install
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on most Linux and BSD distributions, all you do is do whatever you usually do to install software,
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so on Slackware, I might go to Slackbuilds.org and download the package, I might use sport,
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install MPD, on Debian, I'm sure it would be an aptitude install MPD, and on the door it would be
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young install MPD, and so on. Okay, so now that it's installed again, you're left with the binary
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executable, which won't work right now, out of the box, and you've got a bunch of configuration files.
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Actually one, so the configuration files should ought to be in slash etc slash MPD.conf,
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possibly MPD.conf.new, whatever, open it up in your favorite text editor and take a look at it.
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This is a beast and it's not easy and it's going to go wrong the first time around. It's very
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confusing and every distribution seems to do it a little bit differently, it is quite annoying.
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However, I did an episode on MPD on my other show, the New World Order, so if you want to go over
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and hunt for that, I'll try to find it and maybe put it in the show notes or something, but it does
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exist, come to think of it, maybe it was for Hacker Public Radio, I really don't know, it's out
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there somewhere, I'm sorry, I'll try to find it and put it in the show notes. For now, however,
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we're going to kind of do a quick run through. So the first thing that you have to remember is that
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MPD is not going to run as yourself, right? The user running MPD is not going to show up as
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clatu or whoever you are. It's going to show up as something else, maybe nobody, no group,
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maybe it'll be MPD user, I don't know, it kind of depends on your distribution, to be honest.
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I think out of the box it's just nobody and no group. So that means that a lot of this stuff is
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not going to be accessible to MPD unless, of course, it is. So you need to set things like the
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music directory. And if you put the music directory in some place that no other user has access to,
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then MPD is not going to work for you. The playlist directory needs to be placed in some
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location that MPD would have access to that. So all of these things are things to keep in mind.
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And in the configuration file, there are places that you can define what user and group MPD does
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indeed run as. The default is for MPD to simply run as the current user, which is kind of weird,
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because you don't really want MPD running as root, do you? So you should define that as the user
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in the group, I think, again, by default at least on Slackware and that's generally not altered in
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any way. So it's nobody and no group. And that works. It works fine. But just make sure that nobody
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and no group are going to have access to wherever you have it logging everything and putting all of
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its playlists and things like that. The port that MPD wants to listen on or run on is 6600. I've
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never seen any reason to change that, but it is a good number to remember because you'll need
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to reference it when you're using the front ends. They'll want to know what port to knock on
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to sort of attach themselves to MPD. Okay. So the way that I handled all of this was that I put
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the music directory in slash usr slash local slash share because pretty much everyone has access
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to that, at least on my system. You can do it differently if you want. I did it that way
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so that I knew that MPD would be able to access all of the different files. Again, by default,
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they have its set in the configuration file so that everything goes into tilde slash music,
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tilde slash dot MPD slash playlist, tilde slash dot MPD slash database. They somehow seem to
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expect you to be running this as a normal user and I don't even think it lets you do that. It's
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really quite bizarre. It's very frustrating, at least. It has been for me the past couple of times
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I've set it up. I never quite understand the logic behind this configuration file, but it
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exists and you just have to change it and you can change it. So you should. So the music directory,
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I make user slash user slash local slash share slash whatever. I do it MPD and then I put stuff
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into there, but you can do it however you want to and you'll want to make sure that the playlist
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directory is there and that the DB file gets saved there and so on and so forth. Don't get too
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fancy with this configuration file up front. The less you change, the less you'll have to troubleshoot
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when it all goes horribly wrong and it will all go horribly wrong. Past issues that I've had were
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that the database file suddenly, it just like when you first start MPD, it insists that the
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database file is corrupt. I have no idea why or it won't create the database file and then you
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create it and then it says it's corrupt. There's a lot of bizarre things about MPD that I don't
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quite feel like I understand 100%. But it generally in the end does work for me, so give it a shot.
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It might work out of the box for you. You might find it a lot simpler than I do. Maybe I'm just
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not getting something. In order for you to be able to build playlists and interact with MPD,
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the music playing demon, you need to be able to log in to the music playing demon. It's a demon,
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so it's a server. It's a service running on your server on that computer. That means you'll be
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able to get clients for your laptops, for your Android phones, for lots of different things,
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and you can then log in to that server into the MPD instance and do cool things like rearrange
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your playlists or stop it or fast forward or whatever. So in order to do that, obviously you
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would want some level of authentication. So in the configuration file, look for the word
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password and it will take you down to the permissions configuration block.
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If it is setting, if it is set, it will require a password for authorization and then there are
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two levels of permissions that they offer. So the password will be password at read, add,
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comma, control, comma, admin. So that would be the big master password. And so you could
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give that a good password, and you'd have to uncomment it and give it a good password.
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And then the default permissions is just read, add, control, and admin, which is kind of a lot
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for not ever having a password. So I'd be careful with that. But that is an option. So if you want
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some people to be able to look at the current playlist, maybe add songs, maybe control the player,
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maybe not do admin type of things, then you could change that around. So you have two levels of
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different authentication types. One for those who have used a password to log in and one of those,
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one for those who do not. The nice thing about this configuration file is that if you do a search
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for icecast, it will take you down to this configuration block, for an example of a shout output
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for streaming the icecast. It's all commented out by default, of course, but you can, you can
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uncomment it. And then you've got, you've created an audio output. And the type is shout,
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the encoding is awg. I think you can actually, I mean, I'm pretty sure it puts out MP3 as well.
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I don't know that I've, yeah, I think I've tried it with that. I'd have to verify that.
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The name you can set to whatever you want it to be. The host, of course, again, remember in the
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last episode we set the icecast host name to local host. So you would keep that to local host here.
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However, my friend Reggie, who you've probably heard on her hacker public radio episodes or her
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own podcast called the meta cast, she said that one time she was installing this and instead of
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local host, it just kind of demanded that it was 127.0.0.1. We looked at her Etsy host
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file and local host was indeed mapped to 127.0.0.1. So we're not really even sure what that was all
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about. So yeah, just a little bit of experimentation may be required, but don't be too afraid too soon.
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The port, of course, is still 8,000 because we didn't change that in the icecast configuration.
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And then the mount point that you want it to create. By default, it's mpd.org. I wouldn't keep it
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that way. Personally, I'd just call it like slash org or something, but whatever you want. The
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password is set to be hack me. It's not hack me now. It is purple llamas. Remember? Listen to the
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previous episode if you don't remember any of this. This is all the icecast configuration back
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again. Quality is 5.0. By default, you can set it to higher or lower. The bit rate is 128. I found
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that at 128, I get buffering issues a lot. So I lowered that. I think to 96 and then possibly to 80,
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I don't remember, but it was it was a lot lower. The format 4,416 bit, you can change that to 32,000.
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If you want 16 bit, I don't know, whatever you think is best for your bandwidth. The protocol
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is set to icecast 2 by default. You should probably keep it that way. The user you may or may not
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have defined a different user. You probably didn't, so I wouldn't do anything with that. Then there's
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other stuff that you can set, like the description and the URL and the genre and stuff like that. Again,
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I wouldn't set too much of this up front. I would go with minimal changes, turn the thing on, see
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if it's working. If it's not, you have less to troubleshoot and then try it again and see what
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happens. As long as you've configured this sensibly and just keep remembering the things that
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keep tripping me up are setting my music directory to some place that MPD cannot access, given that
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it is running as no user, no group. Or I'm setting a log file to some place that MPD cannot write to.
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Or weird things like the database file just doesn't want to work the first three times.
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Or the localhost is set to localhost and set to 127.0.0.1 or something weird like that.
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So I wouldn't, I would make sure that all of your settings in the MPD conf match the icecast.conf
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and then try to start MPD as a demon, which is how it starts. So start MPD and it'll start running.
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And at that point you should be able to point your browser or your media player to the name of
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your server.com, colon 8000 slash org or whatever you called it. And you should hear everything in your
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MPD playlist playing over an internet stream. The MPD playlist itself of course is something that
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you'll want to build. And the way that you build that is with some kind of MPD front end.
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I've already told you about two in CMPCP being the in-curses version or GMPC being the GTK version.
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The GTK version is really nice. It's very user friendly. People will be able to use it.
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The one tricky thing about it is it's really a client software. So when you launch the GTK
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in the GTK music player client, you need to log in to the MPD instance on that computer.
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Or if you're running GMPC on some other computer, you could log in remotely to the server that
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is running MPD. So it's kind of even nicer that way. The way to do that is you go to the preferences
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and you set all of the information in the preferences of GMPC to match your MPD instance on that server.
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So the port would be 6600. The host name would be of course the IP address or whatever of that
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server that you're logging into. Or it would be local host if that instance of GMPC or whatever is
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is running on your on the same computer as icecast is. And then the password of course would
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need to be whatever you set the password as in the authentication or the permission block in
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the MPD configuration file. So get all that figured out and then you should be able to connect to
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your MPD service and create playlists, queue things up, stop and start the songs and all the types
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of kind of normal music player types of things that you would ever want to do. Simple enough, right?
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And it really is. It's just once you have icecast set up as long as a player supports sending that
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audio to icecast, you can stream anything with really minimal effort. I think the final touch
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for your little internet radio station would be to be able to stream live. And that is done with
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a tool called but broadcast using this tool. But is I wouldn't say languishing project but I would
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say that there haven't been many updates to it. But so far that doesn't seem to have been a problem
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at all. I couldn't find it as an installable option for Slackware so I built a Slack build for it
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which you can find at slackermedia.info slash Slack builds. It's but.tar.gz. I think it also is
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going to be posted eventually to slackbuilds.org. So if you're on Slackware and need an installer,
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it now exists. And if you're on any other platform, your package people have probably already
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hooked you up. So you can just install but the UTT broadcast using this tool. I have to admit I was
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a little bit nervous about this program. I didn't I kind of understood that its purpose was to
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take sound from my line in and then insert that sound into my ice cast stream. So I kind of I
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got that. I just didn't know how it was going to all work. Like I had all these visions of having
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to figure out what my line in port was and how to wire that to butt and then how to get butt over
|
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to the ice cast thing. Believe me, it's a lot simpler than you'd think. But has a very simple
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interface. It's not it's one window and it's got a settings button over on the right. Click the
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settings button. It brings up a new settings window and you can now configure the thing. So the audio
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device of course would be whatever you want your audio line in to be. By default it just goes here
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your whatever your system default sound input is the default sound card as said by also mixer or
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whatever you use. I could set it to my USB microphone if I wanted to. Whatever however I want to do
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it that's that's the simple part I think. The server it gives you a drop down menu but if you
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haven't added a server yet there won't be anything in that drop down menu so you click the add button
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and then you can add your server there. It defaults to shout cast so click over to ice cast
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and then you give it a name that isn't a user name that's a name for this server for your
|
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little drop down menu of course that's that's what this name is. It's not that you're logging in
|
||||
with a user name it's just the the name of the server so that if you have like five different
|
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servers that you're going to be streaming to or something like that that that's what this would
|
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be referencing. It's for your own reference. You give it the address of the server the port that
|
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you want to connect to. So the server name of course would be localhost because you're on the
|
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computer that is streaming this stuff otherwise I don't know how you're going to get a line into
|
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ice cast so localhost would be the server name and then the port of course is 8000 the password
|
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which of course if you'll recall is purple llamas yes that's very good and then the mount point
|
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that you want to create probably for consistency sake you'd want to just call it slash mp3 or slash
|
||||
aug but you could just as easily create something called you know live stream or live or whatever.
|
||||
You can also add stream info like the name of the stream a description genre URL to send
|
||||
people for more information that sort of thing and that's pretty much it for server settings.
|
||||
You can then go over to stream the stream tab and set things like the bitrate again the default
|
||||
is 128 but on you know if you don't have really great bandwidth you might want to knock about
|
||||
down to 96 or 80 the sample rate by default is 44 100 I knock that down to 32 thousand myself
|
||||
channel stereo codec either mp3 or aug whichever you whichever you're going for that's pretty much
|
||||
it for that I think. Notice that there are also tabs for a tab for recording REC this means that
|
||||
yes you can record everything on your computer as you are also streaming it so that way you have a
|
||||
nice little record of everything that happened on your live show or whatever once all that's set
|
||||
you click the connect button and it connects and you're good to go you're streaming live audio
|
||||
so by now I think you're probably getting the idea right all of these modules or these plug-ins
|
||||
or whatever you want to call them their sources for ice cast ice cast has been set in place it
|
||||
exists all it's waiting for is some stream of data for it to deliver to the world via its
|
||||
little pipeline that it's created so no matter what you're a source so if you're if you're but
|
||||
you're you're you're a source so you use your source password you connect to 8000 you create
|
||||
a mount point and you're streaming you're streaming live or if you're using mpd you're connecting
|
||||
to the same place 8000 you're a source so you use your source password and that's it you start
|
||||
mpd and now ice cast is spitting out mpd output if you're using ises or ises dash cc or whatever
|
||||
it's the same idea it's all basically the same setup once you have ice cast in place and
|
||||
understand that all it's requiring is input so that it can deliver content to the masses so
|
||||
as simple as that I hope this all makes much more sense now than it did at the beginning
|
||||
and I think I've pretty much exhausted all the possible topics at least that I know of
|
||||
concerning ice cast this is a surprisingly lightweight solution I didn't really realize how
|
||||
lightweight this was but I installed it on a Pentium 4 and I can't remember the
|
||||
specs on that but I think it was only about a gigahertz it was a pinning for maybe gigahertz
|
||||
with like two gigs of RAM and it's been running like a champ and I haven't really had any problems
|
||||
with it I don't know how many listeners it could have supported it I got fairly high but I
|
||||
I never really I wouldn't say I stress tested a whole lot but in terms of having a small group
|
||||
of listeners it really was it did not require a lot of hardware on the other hand the the big
|
||||
alternate solution that I've been playing around with as well called airtime which I heard about
|
||||
through Alcon DK I forget how he says it check out episode 1166 anyway and airtime radio
|
||||
automation it's a really slick package it's web based interface it's really nice people can
|
||||
use it and they love it and it feels like a you know web 2.0 and very slick kind of interface
|
||||
you'll like it but it's very very it's not lightweight I mean it requires a patchy it requires a
|
||||
bunch of other stuff it basically requires devian or Ubuntu to even install it's a very sort of
|
||||
messy package I think in the back on the on the back inside it seems to require a lot of particular
|
||||
things to be set up in a very specific way but it is very cool and it's nice but it's not lightweight
|
||||
it requires certainly a dual core and a fair amount of RAM like 4 to 8 gigs I think so
|
||||
those are your two options I think in terms of the the different routes of managing a radio station
|
||||
an internet radio station at least that I know of I shouldn't I shouldn't speak so authoritatively
|
||||
I'm totally new to this but but those are two good options so episode 1166 for airtime and then of
|
||||
course ice cast you've just heard about it and like again I have to thank k-wisher and
|
||||
Delwin and Ruggie and someone else who told me about something I think I mentioned his name
|
||||
earlier I don't remember now but yeah the point is this episode has been the cumulative effort
|
||||
of a lot of different people and I'm only doing it on my own because I just my schedule has been
|
||||
so crazy that I just decided to record some episodes because hey the episode count is always
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|
||||
listening to this I hope this has helped it's been a fun journey for me to figure all this stuff
|
||||
out so I don't know set set up a streaming server play music for people it's really fun thanks
|
||||
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