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Episode: 1319
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Title: HPR1319: Frank Bell Presents HPR to His LUG
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Source: https://hub.hackerpublicradio.org/ccdn.php?filename=/eps/hpr1319/hpr1319.mp3
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Transcribed: 2025-10-17 23:29:59
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---
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Hello, this is Frank Bell.
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This is a recording of a presentation I gave to my love on our super duper summer extravaganza
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about hacker public radio.
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With my usual flair for preparation, I made some notes incorporating some of the input
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that I received on the HPR mailing list, printed out the notes, and left them on my printer.
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Interestingly, I had to wing it.
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I left out some other things I wanted to be sure I said, but I hope you all find it interesting.
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Any mistakes are mine alone.
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This is not intended to be authoritative.
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It's just hacker public radio from my perspective as a listener and sometime contributor.
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One mistake I know I made was I attributed Poki's podcast about the care and feeding
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of campfires to Ahuka.
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I apologize to Poki, and if necessary, I will happily apologize to Ahuka.
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And with that said, here it is.
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I am an avid listener to podcast.
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Is that waveform look good?
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I can level and compress them out.
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I started some years ago, I got a little cheap MP3 player, and started, I think the first
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one I subscribed to regularly was the one by this fellow Ty Cochran, which is called
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Geat News Central, twice a week, almost every week for 870 some shows.
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He does an hour to an hour and 15 minute wrap up, tech news, he's a genuinely nice guy,
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fun to listen to, you get the feeling he's someone you'd like to meet in person, and
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that led me to look for more podcast.
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I eventually stumbled on one called the Bad Apples, which was done by a fellow named Klaatu.
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You see it's not Klaatu, depending on whether or not Klaatu has already been taken in that
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particular forum, who had grown up an Apple user and had discovered Linux, hence the name
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of his podcast, Bad Apples.
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It is now renamed to the GNU World Order, GNU World Order, the website GNUWorldOrder.info
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And from a mention in one of his podcast of Hacker Public Radio, I discovered HPR and started
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listening because Klaatu, who I had learned pretty much knew what he was doing, had recommended it,
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and I have reached the point now that I'm actually contributing.
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Hacker Public Radio is a community pie-casting site.
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Anyone can contribute.
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They make it as easy as it could possibly be if you want to do a pie-cast.
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The only criterion is that the subject you choose must be one that's of interest to hackers,
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and they define the term hacker very broadly.
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One of the senior members of HPR, a fellow who calls himself a hooker, I believe it was,
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did one on how to build and maintain a campfire.
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Of course, one reason he did it is because in summertime there's kind of a drug of shows,
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so he was trying to fill a gap, but it was a fascinating listen, especially if in your time
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you've ever been camping, my ex-wife had a Girl Scout troop, so I used to go camping with them,
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and listening to him brought back lots of memories because I became the default campfire
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person when I was there.
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Could you go to Contributors, please, on the menu bar, Contrib- a host, host.
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There, click on that, scroll down to get to Frank Bell.
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I've done several myself over the past two years, it took me a while to work up to it,
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click on the host ID.
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A very popular topic for the first podcast is how did I get involved in Linux, because
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most of these folks are open source folks.
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The one subject I have not heard on an HPR podcast is anything to do with Windows.
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How to use Windows, how to install Windows, you don't get that.
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I've done them on WordPress, I did a four-part series on setting up and using WordPress,
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two parts on Enlightenment, if you caught my presentation on Enlightenment, that presentation
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I did here on the Enlightenment desktop came from preparation for that podcast.
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Hacker Public Radio has a long history.
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Anybody remember 2600?
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There was a fellow who called himself Stank Dog, and his cohorts were called the Digital
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Dog House, and they were involved in 2600 back in the 90s.
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And that eventually led to a podcast called Twatek, today with a techie, and Twatek started
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about 1999 or 2000.
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And there was another sister, the Twatek website you can still find is linked in the Hacker
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Public to about page.
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And there was another digital site that has disappeared, I could not find them on the
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net, but they merged forces about eight or nine years ago and became Hacker Public Radio.
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It's very much a community oriented site.
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There is an admin mailing list, but anyone can join.
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There is a regular user mailing list, HPR, I think is HPR at hackerpublicradio.org.
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All this is on the website that anyone can join.
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Sometimes they're like the twig mailing list, they may be quiet for a couple of weeks,
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and then something comes up, and they're really, really busy for about three days.
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Recently, the rules for posting shows and what sequence they should be posted changed,
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and there was two weeks of very intense discussion before consensus was reached.
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Right now, they're on a first come for a serve basis.
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Everyone seemed to agree that that was fairer than trying to have, okay, if you're new,
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you get bumped in right in place, and if you have it done one longer than anybody else,
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then you get second priority, and then so, and it got really complicated and hard to manage.
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About the time I first started listening to Hacker Public Radio, it had fallen on to
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lean times.
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Maybe sometimes there were only three shows a week, the goal is five.
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Along came a fellow named Ken Fallon, an Irishman who lives in Belgium, and put a tremendous
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amount of effort into bringing it to life again.
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He came up with some strategies to fill empty slots by getting permission to syndicate
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other podcasts.
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So if any of you have ever listened to the Sunday Morning Linux review, SMLR, the first
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time I heard of them was when Ken posted one of their podcasts as the syndicated show.
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And as of the end of last year, we were healthy enough with enough submissions, and I say
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we, because I feel like I'm a part of it, even though I only done seven or eight podcasts
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over about two years, that we stop syndicating shows, though we kind of reserve the right
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to do that if we get desperate again.
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Ben Robb, yeah, binary revolution, that's the one I couldn't start, could not remember
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the name of, thanks Mark.
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So it's also on the HPR about page.
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Many of the people who submit these use audacity, the open source recording and editing program,
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but you don't have to.
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I know that a lot of times you'll hear interviews that are done at various Linux fest and conventions,
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and they are commonly recorded on somebody's telephone or MP3 player, and then submitted.
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Some submissions are heavily edited, some like the second one I did are too heavily
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edited, as people get their feet wet on how to do a little editing.
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Some aren't edited at all, they're just posted up there.
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The shows are not moderated.
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The site runs on the goodwill of the people who make submissions.
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There's even a telephone number that you can call from the United States or from Great
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Britain and press the right key, and you can record directly to the HPR voicemail and the
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HPR admins will add the intro, add the outro, and post it for you.
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Generally, and even though the preference right now is that you submit in FLAQ format,
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because it is lossless, and Ken's written some scripts that take the FLAQ and converted
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to Og, MP3, and Speaks, SPX, the Speaks codec is an 8-bit codec specifically designed
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to be lightweight for use with the spoken word.
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You sure wouldn't want to hear music on it, but for someone with the spoken word who's
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downloading to a digital device and worrying about data caps and things like that, it can
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be very useful.
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Sometimes when people want to do interviews over a great distance, they'll use mumble.
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There's a podcast called, it used to be called Linux Basics.
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It's kind of in hiatus.
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The fellow who's starting to has gone on to do other podcasting things recently purchased
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a podcast network called PodNuts, because the guy who founded it got tired of dealing
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with it.
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The Linux Basics mumble server makes their server available to HPR users.
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You can connect up there and then record the conversation over mumble and have it all
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in one space.
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I really enjoy listening to the podcast.
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There are very few hacker public radio podcasts that I don't not listen to.
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The ones generally I don't get all the way through are something like Matt might do.
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If he did a podcast on coding, I'm not a coder.
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And when you start getting into talking about how you write this and how you write that
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in this language versus the other language, I just sort of, okay, yeah, I know that's
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important.
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But nobody can know everything and that's one of those things.
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I just don't know and I can't follow the conversation.
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The variety is wonderful.
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I mentioned one on campfires.
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I've listened to podcast on how to do, how to stream your radio station over the internet
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and what open source software is available for that.
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And one of them in particular, the guy actually set up his radio software, the way radio stations
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are set up, they automatically came in every 15 minutes and played the theme song.
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You don't think there are engineers there, those radio stations anymore, do you?
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No, it's a box.
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Some of them don't even have people.
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You may remember several years ago, there was a disaster in some time in the Dakotas and
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the police chief tried to call the local radio station to get the word out.
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And there was nobody there.
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It was being run off a server in Chicago.
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Not even the phone call didn't even get forwarded anywhere.
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I picked this topic when Mark was saying, please help.
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We need a presentation and I just finished recording a podcast and said, okay, maybe I'll
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talk about HPR.
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And he said, go for it, I'm desperate.
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So I put a message out on the HPR mailing list and said, you all have anything I should
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mention.
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Somebody suggested doing audacity demo and the consensus response was, no, that's
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a whole nother topic.
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If you want, by the way, if you want to learn how to record with audacity, go to YouTube,
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type in audacity, there are dozens of tutorials.
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Some of them very good, many of them, not so much, many of them smell like surgeons,
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old dead surgeons.
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That's when I have it heard.
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When Mark, I did an interview with some of you may recall, we tried to get you to listen
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to it with Mark and we did what's called a double-ender.
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We saw opposite each other at the table.
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Each one of us recorded our own end of the conversation, then I edited them together.
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That's where I ended up going out and getting this microphone because this is directional
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and the one I had wasn't.
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And you'd be surprised at all the ambient noise there is in Mark's backyard that we didn't
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even notice when we were sitting there, but boy, the microphone picked it up.
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You got audacity open or just looking at a picture.
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Okay, well, yeah, that's how you learn.
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HPR is very much community oriented and this shows I can tell you are not filtered.
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They do go on iTunes and they are tagged by default as explicit.
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Even though they usually aren't, the idea is better safe than sorry, especially with
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those prudes that run Apple.
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There's ample guidance on the website.
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The shows are all released under the Creative Commons license, share and share alike.
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You can look that up.
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There's a link here if you want to read it, but what I want to do is get down to this
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part.
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There's a telephone number if you want to call in.
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There's a fellow from Kansas City, a hardware hacker who calls himself Mr. Gadgets.
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His first shows were all telephone in.
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How he could be on the telephone on his commute and be as coherent and consistent as he
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was with minimal arms, eyes and butts, screeches, crashes of twisting steel and other stuff
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that he'd expect on the highway, extremely well organized.
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I could not extend the talk the way he could.
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Any of you hardware hackers here look for Mr. Gadgets.
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You might enjoy listening to some of his shows.
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You can search the, as you saw when I asked Mark to click on hosts, all the contributors
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are listed.
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You can click on the contributors numerical ID and see their list of shows.
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So if you want to, you hardware hackers, you want to see what Mr. Gadgets's podcast
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about, that's how you would get there.
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I'll show you in a sudden.
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Then there's instructions on how to record with your portable media.
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It's not detailed instructions, but enough to get you going.
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How to use audacity and some criterion about, and as you read the page in detail, you
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know, once you record, once it's recorded, what do you do with it, you send an email to
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adman at hackerpublicradio.org, say I've got a show I want to contribute, what's the
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password for the FTP site, and Ken sends you this password, which is about, because we
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had some security problems, the password is now about this long, and stretches down
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the hall.
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I think it was 32 bits when I piped it and put it in key pass x.
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Most of the, the podcaster invariably, in English, podcasters from all over the world,
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if any of you have noticed my truck, you might have seen the HPR sticker I've got on the
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rear window.
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Now I avoided IRC, I'm not an IRC person, so I don't have, you know, a cute name like
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code cruncher or a stank dog or something like that.
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But these are just some of the various people, yeah, you'll find some Slackware users there.
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Some of these guys are pretty hardcore.
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So I've got really two goals to hopefully get some of you interested in maybe listing
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to HPR and listening to a few podcasts, and if any of you have some knowledge or information
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you want to share, maybe even make a podcast, we contributors are welcome, nobody ever gets
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criticized for poor audio quality or anything like that, you know, it's an open door.
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And it's one of the nicest communities I've found on the internet, you know, one really
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does feel like a member of the community, even when somebody, and Peter 64 lives in Australia,
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as you can see, and works on a golf course to listen.
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I actually listen on an iRiver E150 MP3 player, which I, I didn't realize it, but they're
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considered high end, they support AUG as well as all the other more common ones, and I do
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that because of battery life.
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If I listen to a podcast on my telephone, it sucks the life out of my phone.
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And the MP3 player, it's about the thickness of four credit cards and about the size of
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a credit card, goes right in my pocket, and the battery's good for 12 to 14 hours, plus
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being specifically designed, plus if my phone rings, it doesn't override my podcast.
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Sometimes it's inconvenient if the phone rings, because I have to take the thing I didn't
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hit the pause button, but I'd much rather do that than listen to it on the phone.
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If I'm listening to one on the computer, I pretty much reach the point that I use VLC
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as my default choice for a media player, because if it doesn't play on VLC, it's not going
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to play on Linux.
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Any other questions?
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Hi.
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Anybody ready to take a nap?
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I don't do Apple.
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You're writing the community now that if you do iPhone, I junk, you can use get VLC again.
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OK, I've shot my bolt then.
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If you want to email me, you can email me at Frank at pinesuform.net.
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Pinesu Farm is all one word.
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No spaces, no punctuation.
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And my website is www.pinesuform.net.
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Thank you very much.
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You have been listening to Hacker Public Radio at Hacker Public Radio.
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We are a community podcast network that releases shows every weekday Monday through Friday.
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Today's show, like all our shows, was contributed by a HPR listener like yourself.
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If you ever consider recording a podcast, then visit our website to find out how easy
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it really is.
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Hacker Public Radio was founded by the digital dog pound and the infonomicum computer
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cloud.
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HPR is funded by the binary revolution at binref.com, all binref projects are crowd-sponsored
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by linear pages.
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From shared hosting to custom private clouds, go to luna pages.com for all your hosting
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needs.
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Unless otherwise stasis, today's show is released under a creative commons, attribution, share
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a like.
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Read us our license.
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