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Episode: 1456
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Title: HPR1456: HPR Community News for January 2014
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Source: https://hub.hackerpublicradio.org/ccdn.php?filename=/eps/hpr1456/hpr1456.mp3
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Transcribed: 2025-10-18 03:24:37
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Do you listen to intense music?
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When in this camp I'm enjoying what tonight is, it's Dave Morris.
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Hi Dave, long time no see.
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Yes, yes, it seems like a week since I last saw you.
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For those of you who don't know Dave and I were at FOSTEM 2014 and it was fantastic.
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It was great, yeah, amazing event.
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Anyway, those of you joining HFUR for the first time,
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this is a once a month show that we do to kind of go around what news has been happening in the
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HPR community in the last month. And as usual we introduced a new host that have uploaded
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shows in that interview period. And as usual I try and get somebody else to do it.
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So today Dave I'm afraid that's you.
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Oh gosh. Yes, since since the last recording we've had Mirwee,
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I want to say that in a strange foreign accent, sorry about that, Mirwee, Sian, Tojette,
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J.A. Mathis and Bill M.I. Billy Michigan I think that is.
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Yes, it could be yes, it could.
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Yeah, he appears on or at least he's in the chat for Mintcast, often here his name there.
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Good, good, good.
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So today what we normally start off doing is reviewing some of the shows that happened in the
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previous month, but we just want to rewind a little bit earlier than that to talk about
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and media media shows which kind of got overshadowed in the period of December because of the
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they were that week straddled at 2013-2014 and we had lots of stuff going on.
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So his first one was Pirate Parties which he had a little bit of a coup actually. He went around
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OHM 2013 in the Netherlands and gathered up all the members of the Pirate Party that were there
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and opened a very interesting discussion which I think we discussed this already.
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They been in a shop to everybody about the hopes he had to go through to get a political party
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going in the Netherlands. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I really enjoyed. Sorry, go ahead.
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On the other hand, there are loads, loads of political parties in the Netherlands.
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Probably a few more of the limiting the numbers, probably what they're trying to do.
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Yeah, yeah, we've had odd bunch like the Monster Raving Looney party in Britain
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which is just like a joke really, I think. But the Pirate Party, although it sounds
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joky, is very serious. I think it's, I thought that was, I thought Nido did a fantastic job
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and the people talking there had some amazing things to say. Maybe three things.
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I was going to say, made me rethink my attitude towards these guys and politics in general, I think.
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Yeah, always good. I think the people on HGOR should be away from doing political shows.
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That was one of the founding principles of HGOR. If you don't particularly agree with the
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Pirate Party or whatever, feel free to send them a show of your own. See how I did that, see how I did.
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More shows. And the following day we had another one from OHM, HGOR Live,
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which was 1412, advancing local communities. And this was a, this was a, by the way, just in case,
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people don't know, these were HGOR shows broadcast live on FM in that region of the Netherlands.
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They got a broadcast license and this was going out over FM. And I'm sure there are many
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turn-up farmers down there that were very interesting, very interested to hear what was going on,
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that's at the big event of the road. Yeah, good stuff.
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Was there something weird about the tent or something that NIDA was broadcasting from?
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I know there was some tent collapse later on, but there was all sorts of strange noises off.
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What was that? Yeah, the following day, which was the power of DNS one, which is important
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that what happened was the, it was very hot and there was a lot of wind and it was blowing
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the tent apart essentially. Okay. And the creaking ear was the wind blowing the aluminium
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frame or aluminum frame from side to side, creating all that noise, which was a bit unfortunate.
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But yeah, and it was also a bit unfortunate to say we were discussing, you know,
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power DNS with Bert Herbert. To be honest, I could have gone talking to that guy for another
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hour or two with a problem. Yeah, absolutely. I think I can imagine that I wanted to do something
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important there then. Yes, he was he was just started a really interesting anecdote there.
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The day that I forget, I forget who the parties were now, but it was some famous names,
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like John Postel or something like that. And then bam, the tent falls down. Yes, it's all
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going to cover up. Then we had the operating the lights at OHM and you really want to Google some
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of the, are not Google. Do some image searches using your favorite search engine or choice
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to have a look at some of the lighting it was, it was actually fantastic. The view.
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Yeah, it sounded, it sounded amazing. I have not a chance to do that search that you mentioned,
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but just just from the description, it's an amazing amount of work it could go into.
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Yes, particularly, and they're also looking for, you know, advancing it, so there's a lot of
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all sorts of software could be used and it's important to do still some property stuff, but there
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you go. All right. Then Libro Office, OHK, working with page styles. And this is, this is actually
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cool. People, I don't know if people use page styles half enough. They are very, very, very handy.
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Yeah, yeah, I taught myself how to do that, but hookers stuff is really, you know, when you teach
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yourself stuff, you just learn enough maybe to do the job at hand and then you walk away and
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don't bother with it again, it's nice to hear somebody covering some of the stuff. Oh, can
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you do that as well? Great. And as I've said before, you know, I always, I'm fairly experienced
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with all the software having supported it for longer than I care to admit. And yeah, so every time
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I hear his topics, I think, God, you know, will I skip this one? And then, you know, two minutes in,
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he's like, oh, this and this and then you go, right, okay? I don't know as much as I think I know
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about this topic. Yep, that's the way of it. And then 14, 16, the saga begins. That was the New
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Year Show. Yes. Why can I say not talking to me after this? It was, yes, a magnum opus if ever there
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was one. And it's still not over. We have coming up now next week is all the, sorry, it's all the
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end after show stuff. So that's that we've discussed in that next month. Yeah, yeah, I just started
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listening to the first of those. So I'll do five, five ads. I'll do a quick scan through what
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happened here. I don't know how I'm going to do this. There was loads of stuff. Sorry, we're just
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going to have to skip over all the New Year show. The New Year show was the New Year show. Let me see,
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one, we retired. Kids were not about microphones. We were talking about Linux distals. Then we went on
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to, I was talking about Raspberry Pi. No, I can't do this. It's too thin to live in the memory.
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No, I'm lost for words. Still, I didn't. It was just overwhelming, but amazingly good. I enjoyed
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I enjoyed them very much. I think the inferno, so they breaking up, you know, introducing the
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different time zones did on one hand, it terminated good conversations. And on the other hand,
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it encouraged other people to come in and talk. Yeah, yeah. The show notes to help a lot,
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I think that was a great, great addition this year, I think. Absolutely. And it was done
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on every note, so that was, I was actually fantastic. And we noticed that, I mean, we have brilliant,
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these brilliant journals. There are people just filled in what we're talking about. And I missed
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that really with the subsequent after show because, you know, I had nothing to go on just,
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this is part one of the after show, part two of the after show. So if anyone's listening to the
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after show and can make notes, then we can use those, excuse me, we can use those to
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fill in the show notes. Yes. That's a good undertaking, yeah. Yeah, good luck with that.
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Okay, we'll skip all those and thank everybody again for all the work involved in it. And I
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actually like to hear people's comments back on the new year show, is that something that we
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should continue to try and do? And I know when I was talking to people about them, they couldn't believe
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that we did that. So that was quite funny. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I tell it, the only, the only note I've
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got here against it, because I do keep notes on these things, just so I got something to say
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if I joined in the community news, was on the part three, there, somebody came up with the idea
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of listing interesting packages, that interesting applications and stuff that they recommended.
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And I thought that was really good. In fact, there were also noted down was excellent.
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In the 2018, 2018. Exactly. Exactly. That was pretty cool as well.
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Now I really thought the show notes really added to it. And can somebody remind me next year
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that after we stopped the recording, just before we stopped the recording, say what time it is,
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and as soon as you start the recording, again, say what time it is in UTC.
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That was really, really hard to edit it.
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No, so yourself. The more than that went, it went quite swimmingly as well.
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Okay, then we had Ahuka with statistics and polling, which I really liked, because
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this reminded me of some of the statistical stuff that I set through in college. It was nice to
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actually to sit down and re-hear a class from college and have life experience to know why that's
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important. Same here, really. I did statistics at uni and never really understood it,
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but it's made more sense as I've got older, I think, slightly.
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Well, yeah, it's used so many places that it's important for your BS detector to be able to go,
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okay, what do I need to look at here? Yeah. Okay, the following day was C-Prompt,
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Curtis Hopkins, with setting up and using SSH and Sox. Brilliant, brilliant, brilliant, brilliant,
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brilliant, brilliant, brilliant, brilliant, brilliant, brilliant episode.
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Absolutely, yeah. I've started putting HBO shows in a listen again, Q, and this is right in there.
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When the hell I'm going to listen to them, I don't know, but definitely going to get a re-listen.
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None of this. I did a short way back when this was kind of covered in it, except
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instead of using the dash D option, instead of using the built-in proxy at the time I used
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a squid proxy for one reason or another, I actually needed, I sometimes use it to look at APIs for
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some of the various different apps that I'm using, what API calls they're making as well.
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So in that case, I already had a Sox proxy working, but this is handy for anybody who's
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who wants to use SSH to get out on the internet. And I know his example was getting out from
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work, so just one morning is that you need to be sure that your work allows this sort of stuff,
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so be careful. But I have used this for work where a machine inside various different levels
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of firewalls needed to get a package from the internet or something, then you can do a SSH proxy
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like this to be able to do that sort of thing, so that's really cool. Yeah, cool. Then CT
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catches us in the act, monty the man, man behind your databases, very, very cool snag interview
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for us here on a HGL. Yeah, yeah, very professionally done, I thought.
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Yeah, perfectly. I love his show notes every time he sends them in, it's like everything is perfect
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and filled in properly and not too much stuff and stuff, so he has it down. Just in case you don't
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know, he's got his own podcast as well, so it's aiit.se4 slash review if you're looking for that
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yeah, it does mention it occasionally, I have some of his HPR shows, he's mentioned it, I know.
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But good stuff, excellent, I really enjoyed that one as well.
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Then we had OHM Live Mini censorship and hacking in the Netherlands, so this was a
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Brenel, he hijacked Brenel on one officials to talk about hacking and stuff around, and this
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you know, they're talking about just in the, they were talking about how big an impact was,
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but I know Brenel was well used in the local blog and at the time, every newspaper, every new show
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was all about this and then when you come into work, the guys were going, hey, have you heard this,
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have you heard this, have you heard this, but we're all on Delix Stream getting, well we weren't
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on Delix Stream by and these, these card readers and stuff, so it's pretty good.
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Yeah, so it's a significant impact.
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Yes, yes, I wasn't sure how to react to this because the aspect to this
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made me so angry and in other words, it feels so sad that, you know, biocracy does these things
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to people, it's really quite an emotional ride I thought, listening to this.
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Yeah, I think it's a, I think we're in a period of, you know, we have a, we have a period of
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balance, you know, people don't understand technology, and I think, you know, people have been
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using the excuse, oh, we don't understand technology, so we don't need to, we don't need to take
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notice of it, but I'm myself, I'm not taking that excuse from anyone anymore, everybody has
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computers and everybody needs to know, like, the basics of what's going on in the world,
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and I've been talking to some people since this episode, you know, on the train and stuff
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about it, and people are very aware of where the information has been a lot more aware of
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the privacy and they, you know, I don't think there is gullible about it as they would have been
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years, years before the, do you see more knowledge of along the subject?
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Yeah, yeah, so gradually, gradually, something will, will change, it will change this,
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that the message will get through, oh, the old geysers, who don't understand this stuff will fall off.
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Well, I don't know, is it that they don't understand the tape, or is it that they're taking advantage
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of the fact that most people don't comprehend it? I don't know, I don't know.
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You know, you think that the Metro, they already, apparently, and this is also Stampti,
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as you know, just told it by a random ticket inspector on the train, that they sell off the
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information to the public oyster card, or the equivalent to the oyster card in the Netherlands,
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they sell that off to marketing companies to know how many people come into the train stations
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at particular times a day. Yeah, yeah, this, this, yeah, there, there will be data
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protection laws in, in Netherlands, as there are in the UK, I'm sure, that, that should be controlling
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that sort of stuff, isn't it? I mean, is, is it the fact that it's not personal information,
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but is merely numbers, one that allows it to happen? Yeah, but in, in some cases, you can
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determine the personal information by, by doing the, the clever statistics on the, on the data
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that you have. Yeah, and anonymizing is not as simple as people think. Exactly,
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rather than that the, the, the AOL thing where they released the anonymized data, and then they
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were able to go back and find out, you know, from people, which was unfortunate, the guys got
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sacked for that, and their hearts were in the right places for releasing some clever researchers
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went back and were able to determine the algorithm and, and we're basically able to out a lot of
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people. So there you go. Anyway, enough about that. The following day was Libra office writer frames,
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which clarified frames to me were the most frustrating thing to find in the definite, so this
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helped a lot. Absolutely, absolutely, absolutely, go. Just what I wrote down here, I've used frames
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and always wanted to do more with them and never been completely able to do it. And this, this
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really shed lots of light on, on how to do things with frames. Amazingly powerful feature. So
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great, fantastic. And we're going to go and do things with frames soon, so I get a moment.
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Then we had David Whitman, who visited Roodlue, which is a recycling electronics legal
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Linux user for education. This is nice, because I've been following Ken's blog for years,
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and it was really nice for him to catch up. As you mentioned, Ken couldn't really want to come on
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himself, so this was a very nice review without putting his friend into the, into the, I don't know,
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uncomfortable position of coming on. Yeah, I thought that was great. And the way that David
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Whitman did his report that was great, it was a really nice sort of casual informal chat about
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what had happened. I have heard Ken on the, I think he's, he's visited Mintcars, I mean,
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Custy, he's been on and spoken about what he's been doing. He's definitely been on Tills.
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Quite good. Yeah, yeah. Good, but he seems to be doing really, really fantastic stuff.
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And the next day we had, decoding HVR 1216, the easy way out of it more. This was, this is cool,
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this is just amazing. I just feel so stupid. I never would have thought to do this. I don't know
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why. I just, I don't, gone, sorry. Sorry, I, well, just to let people know, just in case they didn't hear
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for April Fool, the accreditation of doing an April Fool's thing every year, since HVR started,
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it's something wacky. And this year I did one, I just did a Wikipedia article on,
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and compared to that to Morse code, and just put it out. And since then we had a,
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yeah, two to level three, your own good, 13, 14, three and 12, 16, two, two initial episodes on this.
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So it's, it's very good. This one was pretty cool because I'm, I'm actually trying to study
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for my, I'm radio license, and not that CW is part of that anymore, but it's still pretty cool.
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But it's also handy for the new year show, as that whole way to use Pulse Audio controls to
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do a looping. That was interesting for me as well. Yes, yes, that's definitely one of my listen
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again, and mess around with FL Digi list. Indeed. And then another, I think, a, a, a, byseti,
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another, what do you call that one? What are these paper guys call it when you get an interview?
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Scoop him in, I mean, I know the scoop. Thank you, yes. I like the, his show notes he has,
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we're actually working on Linux support calls. I don't know if I'm supposed to say that.
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Yes. So that's good. And that's another interview in myself, but it's, it's nice to see people
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working on some, I'm talking. Oh, absolutely. Yeah, yeah. I'm insane, but I'm not a gamer,
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but it's interesting to hear. And then our two favorite people listening on the chat type
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conversations is Hongke McGoo and Kevin Whisher discussion, debbieing sources that list by
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and sorry to Hongke for putting that out without the, some reason I just forgot the, I
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forgot on the copying and pasting over to add some of the show notes, but I got that sort of
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in the end. So there you go. That's it. I do actually do some, this app pending work is pretty
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cool. If you do need to get a debbie and package from testing or a seed. Yeah, I thought it was
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fascinating. I didn't know you could do that. I've not been a debbie and user, although I've just
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installed it on my machine I built over Christmas. And so I'm off to, seems like at a moment,
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to check that all out and learn how to do it properly. So I should be listening again.
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Yep, there's one thing about, yeah, there's one thing about pinning that you need to be aware of
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is if you do a distro upgrade, it will upgrade all the packages to the current release. If you do
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a pinning and you set the priority of the current release higher than the other ones when you do an
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upgrade, you'll need to reinstall the, you know, the packages that you took from the higher
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repos. But then again, sometimes if you do a distro upgrade, you've already got it from the higher
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repos, so there's no need to. Okay, I could.
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Yes, the best of YouTube downloads scripts. This is something, not the best of YouTube downloads,
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but this is something I'd like people to, you know, to send in. It was start to buy,
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I didn't start to start to buy, who was it? Oh, the name is good to me. Sorry people,
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I'm very, very tired. A while back. Can you remember his name? Let me just check.
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Sending in bash scripts and, you know, little tips and tricks.
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Okay, namescapes me if I don't know. I'll think. I can't think. Yeah, sorry about that.
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Everybody's screaming at the microphone. Probably I will be when the hearers are on. So there's been
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a few comments to this. Dave, you send in the comments of all of us. Yes, I was just so teasing you
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slightly as ways of different ways of doing loops with a, with an iterating value.
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There are many ways of, many ways of doing it in bash. Yeah, but you were saying there was a good
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reason for doing that. Um, you, you using, yeah, well, you used to see, I was just looking for it.
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I can't find it because I've shut down my mail client. Because it was, uh, interrupting me.
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Um, uh, yeah, you used the, uh, seek command, SEQ command, which is a way of generating
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a sequence of numbers, but bash contains a feature for doing that already. Um, and the pipeline
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that you had built had to, to, to, or more processes in it, because each individual element between
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the pipes, um, produces an independent process. Um, and I tend not to do that because I used to work
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on systems way back in the day, which, um, at that time seemed, wow, we got really powerful
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work sessions on our desk, but now they, they, they look incredibly powerless. And we were using
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them as multi-use systems. And we had piles of students in there in like 50, 100 people in there
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trying to do stuff. And they constantly were constantly running out of processes. So every script
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that you ran that needed to generate processes to make pipelines, uh, could fail because there weren't
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enough processes left on the system, um, to, uh, to, to complete the pipeline. So I tended to write
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scripts as a consequence of that. That, that, that went for the, the maximum efficiency. So I
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tend not to do that. It's just, I mean, it's, it's a daft thing in some ways because there, there's no,
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there's no constraint like that anymore unless you're running on a very, very tiny machine. Um,
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but it's just something that's got ingrained. So, um, so that was, that was my comment to you about this.
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I should have put it in the comments, actually. I tend to, tend not to use that comment for
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I'm sorry about that. Yeah. Um, you should do if you can. That would be, yeah, I will add that
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because then it makes it more, more public. And the, yeah, exactly. There was also a mention that,
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which I didn't know, of course, was, uh, that sequence you can actually count down, um,
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which Ron said that in sequence first increment last. So you can go seek 100 space minus one,
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space one, which is pretty cool, actually. Yep. I don't know. I like sequences. It's,
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it's clear to me what's going on when I go back after, but the whole point of this thing,
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the whole point of this was if you've got some hacks that, you know, it's more, it's empowering
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to be, have a little script to do something. And if you've got a few of those, why not share it with
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us? And I'll be first to admit this script is a, is a bit rough.
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But it's, I don't think it is really to be honest. I think it's, it's absolutely fine for what,
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what you want it to do. It's clear, it's laid out nicely. You can, it's easy to read. You put
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things in variables. Um, to me, it looks, it's fine. Just, it's just irritating people who say,
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I wouldn't do it that way. If I were you type of thing that come in and make comments. Yeah, I
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don't, I don't find that irritating. Oh, that's cool. That's another way to do it. Just good.
|
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Anyway, um, the following day, talking 2014 in my bill in Jezra, and you'll notice Dave,
|
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you'll notice that these two guys made predictions last year and didn't put them in the show notes,
|
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and they made predictions this year and didn't put them in the show notes either.
|
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Do you, do you, that's terrible. I didn't know it's actually to the mention it. Yeah. Yes.
|
||||
Well, yes. Next year, we'll expect to show now next year where it goes. Yeah, we got them all right.
|
||||
Our predictions were fine.
|
||||
So, I enjoyed it. It's good. Next day was, uh, I met an all-fan comment in foreign, um, in
|
||||
during the New Year show, um, slagging off the Fahrenheit system or, I don't question,
|
||||
questioning the Fahrenheit system. And, uh, so, um, Sayan, give me a buzz, ask me, uh, to come on and
|
||||
do a chat about it. So, um, so that was, that actually, I think that annoyed a lot of American
|
||||
listeners, which, uh, Donald, uh, was kind of miffed about it. And, uh, he, he deported me to, uh, a,
|
||||
effect that, um, it's, it's based on the soil, water saturation point of water. So, I went
|
||||
and looked at the, what the US Navy had to say, and they said the freezing port of water is 28.4
|
||||
degrees Fahrenheit, minus two degrees, sense grid. And then Wikipedia contradicts that. And, uh,
|
||||
but my whole point is, um, I, I don't know why the arbor eternally picked 32 degrees.
|
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The good news is, some of the answers are doing another show about it. Yes, yes, yes.
|
||||
I'm looking forward to it more about it. I, I, I agree with you on the, the arbor
|
||||
eternally. So, I mean, um, when I was a kid, we, we were taught Fahrenheit, um, because I'm old
|
||||
enough to have, to come from, from that era. And of course, we also had pound shillings and
|
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pens before we decimalized our money. So, so, so I've been through a number of these changes
|
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and send a grape makes, seems to make a lot more sense. Um, but it wasn't an easy transition,
|
||||
you know, you, you, you say, oh, it's a warm day today. Oh, yeah, it's 80 degrees. Yeah, wow,
|
||||
that's, that's pretty hot. And what is the hell is that in centigrade? I still struggled slightly.
|
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And all those ridiculous conversion things, nine over five and minus 32 and all that stuff,
|
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was a horrible thing for, for kids to have to play about with. But, um, you know, well, I mean,
|
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Celsius is equally arbitrary. It's that you pick zero, yeah, a freezing and a hundred us, uh,
|
||||
but it does seem a little more logical that somebody said, you know, it's bloody cold.
|
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Given that the, that the only, that the simple criteria for setting points are freezing point
|
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and boiling point at, at sea level at, you know, the, the, the appropriate air pressure and so forth.
|
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Um, and, uh, so peg those, as, as those points, that seems like a nice logical thing to do,
|
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as opposed to 32 and 212. And it also fits in, it's, it's, it's, it keeps in step with, uh,
|
||||
the, the Kelvin scale. Yeah, but that came afterwards. So yeah, yeah, yeah.
|
||||
Anyway, we're cutting all the people's shores here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, uh, let's continue
|
||||
this conversation next one. Okay. Although, uh, 50 and 50 did a very good one. The, uh, I just
|
||||
read the show notes, uh, is common. Zero Fahrenheit is really cold outside. A hundred Fahrenheit is
|
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really hot outside. Zero Celsius is fairly cold outside. A hundred degrees Celsius, you're dead.
|
||||
Zero Kelvin, you're dead. A hundred degrees, you're dead. Yeah.
|
||||
Yes, yes, yes. Wait, whatever you used to, I think in, in many ways, it, uh, anyway, right.
|
||||
Exactly. And, uh, okay, cool. Moving on. We want to, although one thing I will say, I,
|
||||
I'm, I'm now considering insulting Americans more often so that people will do retribution
|
||||
skills. I'm about to get more shields in. So if you don't want me to criticize your country or,
|
||||
whatever, then you better start sending in shields, guys, or I'll start getting desperate.
|
||||
Conquertral. Conquertral. Uh, boy, no. Oh, boy. I thought we did, do we not have a few,
|
||||
a few episodes about, uh, uh, muskets, or did I hear that? Yes, yes. Somebody did something about,
|
||||
about, uh, muscle loading, um, guns and stuff. That was of interest to hackers, I have to say. Okay.
|
||||
A group of Ubuntu quickly ebook template in this episode, Mike Hingley talks about Ubuntu's
|
||||
quick ebook template project, which is actually cool. This, uh, this allows authors to, um,
|
||||
put ebook style pubs, uh, books into the Ubuntu packaging system using, uh, using, um,
|
||||
PPAs. Yeah. Yeah. I'm juicing this quickly, um, facility Python quickly, facility,
|
||||
which I remember being discussed way back on, is it something like a log radio or something?
|
||||
Bill, you're going to answer it here in HR, about it. I'm a little bit. No, you're right. Yeah.
|
||||
That was on, uh, log radio actually. Yeah. Yeah. It was. It was. I remember because I played around
|
||||
with it and thought, oh, that's neat. That's a great way to, there's, there's some pearl
|
||||
equivalents to that as well, actually. Um, but anyway, it's another, another issue altogether.
|
||||
Cool. Um, so the following day is why I made my account free Android, an account free
|
||||
Android. This was pretty cool, actually, because, um, I was recently, I don't know, I don't know
|
||||
what I did. I decided one day, oh, wouldn't it be a good day? Oh, I know what happened. I saw
|
||||
an article that said that say I was ready for my model of phone, and it was my model of phone,
|
||||
version, blah, every model, except the actual model that I have. And I've got to do a backup,
|
||||
like the Nadia, and then just, uh, just, uh, it was a disaster. And then I had to reinstall
|
||||
everything. And unfortunately, this episode was uploaded afterwards. It was pretty cool.
|
||||
Yes. Yeah, it was, it was an interesting thing. Um, the prospect of being somewhat more
|
||||
Google free is something I'd really like to, to achieve as well. Yeah, I just prefer to keep the,
|
||||
information, you know, under my own backup, uh, under my own control. Um, more probably,
|
||||
but here's an interesting thing. And I think it was mentioned on the New Year show as well.
|
||||
That, uh, yeah, you can find everything on the internet, you know, every file is available on
|
||||
the internet. And my experience has been lately, you know, that's not true. You can find references
|
||||
to every file on the internet, but the actual files are invariably pointing back to one single
|
||||
location. And this makes it very easy for people to, you know, either intentionally or unintentionally
|
||||
take that file off the internet. And it's not available on your own. And you'll notice that.
|
||||
Yes. Yes. Yes. It's very frustrating if you're particularly looking for a thing, isn't it?
|
||||
Yeah, exactly. A site, uh, a site goes down. And this has happened to many projects.
|
||||
For example, the, um, I think everybody remembers the, uh, Gen2 Wiki, when that went down,
|
||||
people, there was no copy of the thing. It was on one server. That was it.
|
||||
Yeah. Nasty. So, um, I would, and, you know, to say, okay, Google has a copy of it and the
|
||||
Google versus everywhere, but, you know, they have, uh, they have a three location policy as well.
|
||||
So they have it in three different places and they have a three backup servers. But
|
||||
that's only six places, you know, I would prefer that it might possibly be. I would prefer to have
|
||||
my own backup strategy where I know where it is. Oh, absolutely. Yes. Yes. Very much so.
|
||||
No, there's some great ideas that I really want to go and do some of those, those things.
|
||||
Go on. Sorry. No, no, I have nothing more. Well, I was looking at one of the things that really
|
||||
annoys me. I'm a recent convert to smartphones. Um, I only got a smartphone a few months ago.
|
||||
And I really dislike the, uh, the Google, um, whatever you call it, the, the, the, the people thing
|
||||
or whatever it, the context thing. I'd really like to have something based around something
|
||||
that I control and being in a bit of an LDAP freak back in my work, work experience. I would
|
||||
like to have something based around an LDAP structure, which I controlled. So, I'd really like
|
||||
to build something like that and, and sounded like there are lots of possibilities in that direction.
|
||||
That, that seems actually pretty cool because I have, I've loads of contacts everywhere and I don't
|
||||
particularly need that information to be given to anybody. I don't need my parents who have never
|
||||
been on the internet phone number out there for everybody to see or, um, data birds. It's just
|
||||
information that nobody other than my family needs to know. Thank you.
|
||||
Yeah. Exactly. It also, it also gives you the option to go in and do your consolidation and not
|
||||
have things all over the place and be able to export free cards and all the rest of the goods.
|
||||
Exactly. So, exactly. So, yeah. Um, I did have a, have a chat with John Culp about this,
|
||||
sometime last year with a view to put together a show about that subject, not finished yet, but
|
||||
something. So, got stuck. Not making a list at all.
|
||||
I hear you, yeah, I'm done to show this year. There's this one, can't. But anyway, yes.
|
||||
The 14, the last show of the month was a Libra office writer of frames, properties,
|
||||
completers. And for those of you who are worried, Ahuka has sent in loads of new shows and
|
||||
they are all available to you on the HBO website, but we'll be released in the fullness of time.
|
||||
Cool. Yes. Good frames. Yes, yes, I enjoyed that. I didn't know you could chain them together.
|
||||
Didn't know that. I didn't know. To be honest, I'm still not convinced that they're needed in this
|
||||
world. No, it's, yeah, I don't know. When I set up my, I was a consultant for a while and I tried
|
||||
to do a, um, you know, three panel brochure type thing and I tried to do it using frames and
|
||||
could not get it, get the text to flow between, between the panels and all that sort of stuff.
|
||||
And that was just because I'm an idiot probably, but I'm sure if I'd understood frames better,
|
||||
I could have done a better job of it. Okay. Let's have a look at the news and you can find this
|
||||
ask. Actually, I did some business cards for Foster. They actually went on quite well, I think,
|
||||
a bit closer perhaps, but they're good. I gave one to my son, the other day, who immediately scanned
|
||||
the, um, the thingy, what do you call it, code? What's it called? QR code and said, yeah, it works,
|
||||
yeah, fine. So yeah, so I put up shortcuts to everything. So if you do Hacker Public Radio.org
|
||||
forward sash feed, we'll bring you to the RSS feed, forward sash IRC, we'll bring you to a
|
||||
mail client or a web client for free node. G main will bring you to the mail archive,
|
||||
mail lists will bring you to subscribe to the mail list. There's a bug with the current mail
|
||||
list software we can't get an archive. So it's now archived at G main anyway. So you can, the
|
||||
advantage of that is you can use a newsreader to read and I don't know if you can reply to
|
||||
somebody might want to try that. But anyway, you can read the mail list through that.
|
||||
forward sash iTunes will bring you to iTunes for such Twitter, Twitter, Google and the plus sign,
|
||||
LinkedIn or Walmart.org has no spaces. Facebook and archive.org. So all of those are there.
|
||||
And if we go to G main now, we see that the latest one was, oh yeah, I did a show swap.
|
||||
So Peter 64, a job of maybe you just swapped a show so that doesn't affect anybody except
|
||||
those guys. Dave talking about the community news, free node was down, talked about us,
|
||||
about the FOSTEM table, and David Whitman sent in links north west 2014 HPR table. I have had a
|
||||
table HPR links fast north west for at least two years was my intention to repeat this in 2014
|
||||
to apply and promote the AFC and the ARCA screen reader project and do it in so much during the
|
||||
past. So if you want to talk to him, he's going to be unable to attend this year. So if
|
||||
there's somebody else willing to come and help please contact Dave Whitman or apply to that
|
||||
on the website. Kevin O'Brien sent in about the Libra Office updates that he put a brochure
|
||||
together for so that people going to pass can print off a little brochure that they can fold up
|
||||
for a HPR spill.
|
||||
The after show was still running. What potatoes this? Second of January as 850.
|
||||
That's it. That was that was pretty much all the threads for the new for the
|
||||
mailing list. Cool. I know coming shows we have John O'Bake in a Stewart language talk to
|
||||
Pokey. There was a Pokey went into great detail about how John O'crofted Stewart so they got
|
||||
into a bit of a tizzy about that and we get another show about it. So more of the story is
|
||||
big controversial folks and you get loads and loads of shows coming in. Then we have Jonathan coming
|
||||
up with the Google Summer of Code. One to tell you about that right now if I may. And the mentoring
|
||||
organization application deadline is coming up at the end of next week. So February the 14
|
||||
that's going to close in between 11 a.m. and 12 p.m. Pacific time. So if you're a mentor for the
|
||||
Google if you want to be a mentor for the Google Summer of Code you need to get your
|
||||
act together ASAP. Link will be in the show notes. So if you go to show notes for this episode or
|
||||
actually there's no point by the time this episode is out it'll be long gone. You're too late. Too
|
||||
late suckers. Enough about that no point talking about it. Then we have Fahrenheit 0 to 100 which
|
||||
is Bill in MI. Interesting deal but that's going to be a lot. Then we have a J.A. Mattis. What is
|
||||
Firefox OS? 22 in the series on Libra Office writer of other frame styles. Following week we have
|
||||
an interview with the F123 group which is a discussion that come up. It's a project and accessibility
|
||||
project. I was put in touch with them by the developer of the Orca project. Then we have the first
|
||||
of the FOSTEM interviews in which I get an interview with the FOSTEM volunteers, the OSG or project,
|
||||
Geomias, OpenStripMap, LibraGraphics Magazine, OpenSociety, the Devon project,
|
||||
Herman OS and CA CERT. Then the following day we have Intro to CableCutting by Tracy Holster,
|
||||
Timelapse Video by Peter64. Thank you again Peter for allowing us to swap. My mobile digital
|
||||
life by Nightwise and this one I took out of the backup queue. I also took out some of my shows
|
||||
from the backup queue as well and put them in because we have plenty I think. We still have told
|
||||
backup shows. Then the next one was an interview with Jeremy Allison from the Samba project. I just
|
||||
put that out as a separate show because it's completely, we go into great detail. I thought,
|
||||
why not. Then the following day we're going to have an interview, FOSTEM where I interview the
|
||||
Thor project, a free software user group inside the European Parliament. Jonathan Randell from
|
||||
the KDE project is the lead project lead on the Pebuntu. Mozilla, I talked to the project
|
||||
European Community Builder from Mozilla, Tobias Miller who is on the board of directors of the
|
||||
GNOME project. We talked to Jim Perons, this is a governing board member of the Sendoass project.
|
||||
Then we talked to two guys about Foreman, Overt and OpenStack from Red Hat. Then we have the
|
||||
Jim Ernstmann and Jörg Hoßlav who are Fedora Ambassador steering committee and also Fedora
|
||||
program manager. That was that's that. Continuing on, we will have several, and then there's
|
||||
another series of interviews which I haven't posted yet but we'll do shortly. Then some
|
||||
liberals and some more like most stuff and learning to read the clock.
|
||||
Yes, your FOSTEM coverage is amazing, I have to say. No wonder you're tired, I need to sleep
|
||||
for about a week after that. I was with tiredness and the editing has been a lot
|
||||
now. You don't want much editing, I do chopping off the top front of the back but there was so
|
||||
many good interviews there with people that you're talking, you're actually talking to project
|
||||
maintainers or founders of the projects or whatever and it's just very difficult not to continue
|
||||
talking to them so yeah. Good. Oh, I see you have a photograph here of your interview with Jeremy,
|
||||
I listen. Yes, I know you got that from. I got a blackmailed fly certain members of the HPR
|
||||
community. Good. Oh, it's useful. Thanks for that. And yes, as all again, as I was recording that
|
||||
you'll see me in the picture I'm holding up my Zoom H2 and for some reason the recording went
|
||||
and resorted to the backup but it actually doesn't come out that bad. So any order is better
|
||||
than no audio as we say. Oh yeah, absolutely. Yet your backup technique is very impressive.
|
||||
I've got a lot to learn there. I think full and down is similar whole. I tried to record
|
||||
I show you yesterday. Anyway, that's another story. It happens to the rest of us Dave,
|
||||
happens to the rest of us. So I have some stickers and stuff from Foster and if there are people
|
||||
who want to do stickers, there were some other people who talked to us some really cool
|
||||
cool people on the sideline and I think if there was any way that we could get a booth at Foster
|
||||
and that would be fantastic but you would need at least three people full time there on the booth.
|
||||
Yeah, they stipulate there must be two people at all time don't they? I think the Foster
|
||||
and Management. I thought that was like a by the by-thing but once you go there there was never a
|
||||
moment where there wasn't at least you know a queue at every table talking to everybody. It was
|
||||
absolutely no it's mobbed absolutely mobbed everything every part of it. And that's 5,000.
|
||||
5,000 plus geeks there. Yeah, they're like project leaders and stuff so they're not there.
|
||||
Now these are these are powerful powerful people developers.
|
||||
So I haven't seen any of the videos yet. The links to all all the Foster and videos are in
|
||||
the show notes as well for this so pretty cool pretty cool. I would love to go I would love to go
|
||||
there maybe as a you know incorporation with I don't crunch bank clinics where we were thought
|
||||
thinking about going with phenomenal over and sharing a booth and I'd love to get somebody to
|
||||
come over as well and do you know help us with the accessible computing foundation. There were
|
||||
lots of people that there were three people at a table but there was three different projects
|
||||
at the table. That might be a way to to get a table in as well. Yeah. Good.
|
||||
That's it Dave, will we finish? Yep, yep I haven't had anything else to add I don't think.
|
||||
Okay, shall we sing a free song for a song now?
|
||||
Preferably offline I think in. Thanks everybody for listening and tune in tomorrow for another
|
||||
exciting episode of Hacker Public Radio!
|
||||
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