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Episode: 1809
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Title: HPR1809: My "New" Used Kindle Touch
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Source: https://hub.hackerpublicradio.org/ccdn.php?filename=/eps/hpr1809/hpr1809.mp3
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Transcribed: 2025-10-18 09:32:27
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This is HPR episode 1,809 entitled, My New Used Kindle Touch.
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It is hosted by John Kulp and is about 11 minutes long.
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The summary is, I talk about why used stuff is often better than used stuff,
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with my new used Kindle touch and examples.
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Hey everybody, it's John Kulp and Life Yet Louisiana,
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and I'm going to record an episode today about a new device that I just got,
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and it also got me to thinking about, in general terms,
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how I tend to buy used stuff rather than new stuff whenever I can.
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I find that not only can you save a lot of money,
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but oftentimes the stuff you get is actually better,
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at least better from a hacker's perspective.
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I mean, for technology, I will occasionally buy new things,
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but I am frequently buying computers at Goodwill.
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We have these awesome thrift stores over here,
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a thrift store is a place where people donate stuff,
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and then the store turns around and sell us at a really cheap price.
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And our thrift stores are very, very cheap here in Life Yet.
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Not quite as good as the ones in Austin, Texas,
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where when I was in graduate school there,
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those were truly phenomenal.
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But we have some pretty good ones here,
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and I've bought tons of old computers there,
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like computer tower type computers, usually,
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from the, I don't know, 2004 to 2007 era,
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and I still use those as my servers.
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I have once found a Mac Mini,
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like one of the old G4 Mac Minis there for $5.
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The tower computers normally go for about $8.
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I bought recently an HP LCD 19-inch flat screen monitor for $9.99,
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and I brought it to work, and now that's the monitor
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for my Mac Mini over there on my desk.
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I bought many routers, printers.
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I've just recently, for $3.99,
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bought an HP LaserJet.
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Let me see if I can see that number.
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2012, it's a small laser printer,
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and it had toner in the cartridge, and it works great.
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So that's my office laser printer now.
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The printers that we have at home are both ones that I got at Goodwill for.
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I think that the black and white one that we use the most,
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I got for maybe $11.99.
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It's an HP LaserJet 3200,
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combination packs, scan, and printer.
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And I have an HP Color LaserJet 6122, I think it is,
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and I got that for $5.
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And then I had, of course, buy some new toner cartridges,
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but the stuff works great.
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I also like used books.
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If I'm going to buy a physical book rather than an ebook,
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I almost always want to buy a used book,
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because you can get it for so much cheaper and often better quality as well.
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Let's say clothes.
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Used clothes are almost always way cheaper than new clothes.
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And for example, my shirt of choice is almost always a pull-over polo kind of shirt
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that's got the two or three buttons up top and the short sleeves.
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And those are very easy to find in good condition,
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practically new condition,
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at many, many thrift stores,
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and usually for between like two and six dollars.
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And so I let somebody else pay that initial price of $40 or $60 for the shirt,
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and then I will buy it later after they've worn it a couple of times
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for just a couple of bucks.
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I don't see why I should have to pay all that money up front.
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So anyway, my latest used product that I really, really like,
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and that brings home the value of a used older kind of product, is a Kindle Touch.
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This is a device that I saw in a local pawn shop.
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I want to say it might have been six months ago.
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I went to the pawn shop.
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I would stop into these places periodically just kind of see what they got.
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And they had this Kindle Touch in there.
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They had the absolutely crazy asking price of $99 on it.
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And as soon as I showed an interest in it,
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the proprietor of the pawn shop said,
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oh yeah, I'll sell you that for $50.
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And honestly, I thought that was still a little bit high.
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I mean, you can buy a brand new Kindle paper wide for a hundred bucks.
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And so for a device that was two or three years old,
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I didn't think it was really worth $50.
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So I said, thanks for showing it to me, and I'll check back in.
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So a couple months later, I went back.
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They still had that same Kindle Touch there.
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The guy offered me the same deal.
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And again, I said, no thanks.
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A couple more months.
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This has probably been six months now since the first time I saw it.
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And I stopped in there last week.
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And they still had the thing.
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And by this time, the battery was totally out.
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I mean, I had to stick it into a charger for a few minutes just to prove
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that it would still work.
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And I finally just offered them.
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I said, I know this thing has been in your shop for a really long time now.
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Any chance you will sell this to me for $30.
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And it was still marked at $100.
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And I think everyone knew that was a crazy price.
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But I guess they've got to start somewhere.
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So I offered $30 and the lady behind the counter said,
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tell you what, I'll give it to you for $40, including all the taxes and everything.
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And I said, done.
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Handed it over to $20 bills and walked out with a new Kindle Touch.
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And I'm really happy with it.
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It's in many ways it's better than the Kindle Paper White.
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At first, it had some problems.
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Like, it wouldn't read the e-books that I put on there.
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And the experimental web browser didn't seem to work right.
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Like, it wouldn't accept a URL that I typed into it.
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And there was one more problem.
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I don't remember exactly what the problem is.
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But then I had the bright idea to update the firmware,
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thinking that maybe the person who had this before was one of those really not tech savvy people
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who never do any kind of updates.
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And so I ran the little firmware update program on the Kindle.
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And when I rebooted it, everything worked.
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It's one of the rare times in my life where a firmware or software upgrade
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actually fixed all of the outstanding problems.
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Instead of either leaving the problems there or introducing new problems.
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So anyway, I really liked this Kindle Paper White.
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And I thought that I would take advantage of one of its features that is not present anymore
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in the newer versions of the Kindle to have a fun little conversation with it.
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This actually has text-to-speech capabilities.
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It's got a little speaker.
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And it also has a headphone jack.
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And I recorded a conversation with the thing.
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Actually, what I had to do to make this work was record its part using the text-to-speech.
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I made an e-book of its script, loaded the e-book onto the Kindle,
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and then ran the Kindle output into my mixer and then recorded it on my computer.
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And I will, I have a series of play buttons to play its responses to my questions here.
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So let's see, let's talk to my Kindle Paper White a little bit.
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So, sorry, not Kindle Paper White, Kindle Touch.
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I'm insulting it by calling it the Kindle Paper White.
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So Kindle Touch, tell me some ways in which you are better than the new-fangled Kindle Paper White.
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Well, for one thing, I have some audio capabilities.
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I can do text-to-speech, and I can even play MP3 files while you're reading a book.
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The newer Kindle Paper White cannot do either of these things because it does not have a speaker
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or a headphone jack.
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Nice. What else?
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I also have twice the storage capacity as your Kindle Paper White.
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I have 3G connectivity.
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I don't have advertisements like your Paper White, and I am also much more hackable.
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Hackable. Oh, I like the sound of that. I like the hack stuff. What do you mean by this?
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What I mean is that my older firmware allows you to install and select your own fonts.
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For example, you install the Open Dislexic font, and now you can turn every book you read into a
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dyslexic-friendly book on the fly. Does your Kindle Paper White allow this?
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No, no, it doesn't do that.
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I didn't think so.
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So, is there any way in which you don't quite measure up to the Kindle Paper White?
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The only way I come up short against the Kindle Paper White is that I do not have a built-in
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backlight. You'll have to shine a light on me to be able to read a book in dark conditions.
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Yeah, that's unfortunate. One of the great features of the Kindle Paper White is the
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built-in backlight that allows you to read in the dark. But that's not a deal breaker.
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Are there any other reasons why it's better to have purchased you than to have bought a new Kindle
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Paper White? Sure. You got me for 40 bucks instead of the $100 you paid for your new Kindle
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Paper White, which doesn't even have 3G and it has ads every time you turn the screen off.
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Yeah, I got to agree with you there. I did pay a lot of money for the Kindle, and I even bought
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the one that was discounted because it's subsidized by ads. And I got to hand it to you. It's nice
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to see when I turn you off. I don't see an advertisement. I just see a nice image there. So,
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anyway, thanks for talking to me. And that was really fun. I hope you guys have enjoyed my little
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intro to the Kindle Touch and talking about used stuff versus new stuff. And I will be back with you
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some other time. Bye.
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