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+Episode: 1907
+Title: HPR1907: Charlie Reisinger and Penn Manor
+Source: https://hub.hackerpublicradio.org/ccdn.php?filename=/eps/hpr1907/hpr1907.mp3
+Transcribed: 2025-10-18 11:01:30
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+This in HPR episode 197 entitled Charly Ridinger and Pen Manor and in part of the series,
+Interviews.
+It is posted by Klaatu and in about six minutes long, the summary is Klaatu Interviews Charly
+Ridinger of Pen Manor School District.
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+Hi everyone, this is Klaatu, I'm at the All Things Open conference with Charly I forget his
+last name.
+Risinger or Charly Risinger?
+Okay, so you work at Pen Manor School District, I guess, is what that is.
+You were talking in your lightning talk about a program that you're running for students.
+Would you tell me a little bit something about that?
+Sure, happy to.
+So Pen Manor School District is the name of the district.
+We are a public school district in Lancaster County, Pennsylvania.
+You find us about an hour and a half west of Philadelphia.
+We have a high school of approximately 1700 kids and middle school about 800 kids.
+And over the past few years, we have been rolling out a one-to-one laptop program.
+It means that every student receives a school purchase school issued laptop and unlike many
+one-to-one programs around the country, around the world, instead of using proprietary software,
+we are exclusively running Linux and Open Source.
+Wow, okay.
+And how are they taking to this?
+The students, I mean?
+Well, it's been fantastic, actually.
+You know, there was a great deal of upfront fear, some hesitancy, some apprehension about
+rolling out unlock devices because the norm in schools is typically, you know, command and control,
+locking units down, restricting what students can do with those devices.
+You know, with the support of our teachers' administration, we decided that if this is truly
+about our kids, it's a learning initiative first, and the best way for us to achieve the
+goal of enhancing education is to give them a full laptop computer with unrestricted access.
+So, I'm wondering about the other side of the equation right now, like, how were the, I mean, I know,
+okay, so the students were a little bit apprehensive.
+What about the teachers, like, were they concerned that they might not know enough to help the students
+and that sort of thing, or how did it go over with not the students, but the everyone else?
+Yeah, that's a great question.
+So, any part of any technology initiative requires any school technology initiative requires considerable professional development.
+You're going to have that element no matter what device you choose in a school.
+You know, you think about any new software project, hardware project, any new program, you need to train your people.
+So, we invested rather heavily in providing training for our teachers.
+They had multiple days of professional development, where we walked them through the laptop, the tools,
+really tried to get them comfortable with navigating the interface, and also exposing,
+and showing them, giving them a chance to play with the new capabilities they would have in the machines.
+So, again, I think professional development is really key.
+And I'm fortunate to work in a district that has really great staff, that are happy to roll with new initiatives,
+in many ways they're fearless, in embracing new technology.
+And I think, you know, because of that, that's really helped to make the program very successful.
+Okay, so aside from the fact, I don't know, maybe you're just an open source nut,
+and you just, you know, wanted to force this on everyone.
+Why do you think this is important to, like, why do you think it's important to the students to learn this kind of stuff?
+Yeah, I think that's a great question.
+So, we, in many ways, like, many school districts, we start with open source and free software,
+because free as in cost.
+Right.
+As a school district, you know, it's ridiculous what many districts are paying to Microsoft and Apple.
+Right.
+So, and we just didn't have the funds.
+In fact, I would dare say, when we began talking about this at the school board level,
+I was very clear to them that if you want to go down this route, as a district we wanted to go this route,
+an open source by reducing the software costs, it could make the program happen for us.
+So, not only just the free aspect, it really accelerated our ability to purchase more devices for students.
+So, for us, the free cost piece really translates into educational reach.
+We could reach far more students than if we had some type of proprietary technology and the cost associated with that.
+But beyond that, you know, I think there's also the, truly the freedom of giving kids the option to explore their devices
+without restriction.
+And I think that's critical.
+I think that goes hand in hand with learning, right?
+And creating some of the environment we're in prompt to learning can occur when the kids take those devices home.
+And they have time to play and experiment and look at a command line and get gritty with it.
+What happens when they just break their computer, you know, like when they experiment too much and they can't get it to boot.
+Yeah, they do.
+Well, I think, yeah, and sometimes that does happen.
+A story that I have as a kid came to me, or actually multiple times, students have come to us where they've just completely messed up the entire work.
+Yeah, that's alright though.
+Because, you know, we have an imaging system in a few minutes and three minutes we can re-image the machine.
+They're back in business.
+I want them to play and make mistakes because that's how you learn.
+Yeah, yeah.
+It's fantastic.
+Thank you so much for the interview.
+Thank you for your talk.
+And where can people find out more about what you're doing?
+Great.
+But you can follow me on Twitter.
+I'm Charlie, three, C-H-A-R-L-I-E, number three.
+Or go to the PennManner technology blog that's technology.pennmanner.net.
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