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Episode: 1998
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Title: HPR1998: Homebrewing
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Source: https://hub.hackerpublicradio.org/ccdn.php?filename=/eps/hpr1998/hpr1998.mp3
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Transcribed: 2025-10-18 13:03:19
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This is HPR Episode 1998 entitled Thumbring.
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It is hosted by M1RR Nero R5H4D35 and is about 24 minutes long, the summary is a bit
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about making your own beer.
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Hello World, Mirror Shades here again, before I get into the episode, I just wanted
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to talk a little bit about some of the feedback from my first show.
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So first of all, my handle, the one that gives the speech synthesis fits, I actually got
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that from the title of a book, it's an old book, I think it came out in 1986, it's called
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Mirror Shades, a cyberpunk anthology and it's edited by Bruce Sterling, I think you can
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still buy it on Amazon, it's, I was just feeling nostalgic and of course if you're going
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to do a cyberpunk handle, you have to do it and leave, that's just how it is.
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Also the tape recorder, the reason why I used that is I just found it, I forgot to even
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own this thing, I was cleaning out a closet, I had a bunch of hardware in there and I found
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it and there was a blank tape, actually a sealed, unused blank tape and so that's why I used
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it to record the first episode and a funny story after I recorded that show, the recorder
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quit working, it just died an unspectacular death and doesn't work anymore, oh well.
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So let's see, the last thing is my accent, I seem to have, when I apologize for my accent
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it's not because I'm ashamed of my accent or anything like that, I just never sure how
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much other people would be able to understand the words that I'm using, my accent's actually
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not terribly thick, when I'm going to tell you it's a little bit anecdotal, so in
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Kentucky it seems to be the further west you go, the milder the accent is and I grew
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up in Central Kentucky but most of my family is from Eastern Kentucky and Eastern Kentucky
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is more of the Appalachian region, it's the mountain area, so accents there are much
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much thicker and sometimes it can really be hard to understand if you're not familiar
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with them, so my speech is a little weird, it's a little bit of a mix which I guess is
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normal if you're from Central Kentucky, it's not as thick as an Eastern Kentucky accent
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but I usually understand what those people are saying, pretty well but I've heard accents
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Kentucky accents or I guess Appalachian accents that are so thick that you know many people
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have trouble understanding what they're saying, and you know that's okay, it's just, it's
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regional, some people mistake my accent for a Southern drawl and it's not, a Southern
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drawl is what you'll hear if you listen to someone who's from like Georgia or someplace,
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most of the people who settled in the Appalachian region are Irish, Scottish, German and some
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Scandinavian descent, so the accent here is pretty much unique to Appalachia and also
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before I get into the episode, I just wanted to share, I got something really cool here,
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my grandfather's father was born, raised, lived and died in Eastern Kentucky, I have a
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recording of him and I'm going to play just a snippet of it for you and so you can hear
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and a little bit more of an authentic Eastern Kentucky accent, it's kind of cool, I'll
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go ahead and play that now and then it's not very long, the whole recording I have is about an hour
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and a half, I'm just going to play a little just a couple of minutes, the audio quality on this
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is extremely rough, it was recorded in the early 90s and he was, I think he was in his 70s,
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so I'm just going to play that just as an aside, so you can hear that and then we'll get
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him to the episode itself.
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Sure did have a hard time, little brother, time to make a living, he had to raise him, he
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back in, he bought us out of the store, he'd get home and wanted to buy a bed, he'd
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get home and make a bed, he'd get home and make a bed, he'd get home, he'd get home and
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make a bed, he'd get home and make a bed, he'd get home and make a bed, he'd get home and
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make a bed, he'd get home and make a bed, he'd get home and make a bed, he'd get home and
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make a bed, he'd get home and make a bed, he'd get home and make a bed, he'd get home and
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make a bed, he'd get home, get a bed, he'd get home and make a bed, he'd get home your
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house, and he'd get home, and he'd get home and make a bed, he'd get home and make a bed
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and he'd get home, he'd get home or make a bed, he'd get home and make a bed, he'll give
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him a bed, he'd get home and make a bed, he'd get home and make a bed, he'd get home and
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And we learned how to fly there later, so was that the day when we played the roles of them here.
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That's all we need to say to you about is just open up the most out of the roles.
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Oh, she's echoed.
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And later, so that's what she's saying.
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That you know my day to day.
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It wouldn't make me get up.
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It wouldn't, it wouldn't move far away till it was one or two times.
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It meant I saw it as all this water.
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One day about it though, you didn't have to worry about it, if you wouldn't have.
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So far on the edge of that, you can just get your role on that land.
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That worked out pretty good, that way.
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I went to two families there, and I don't know how it was.
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That's no plan if he's wildly out there and I follow it.
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And I smiled.
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I started at an hour one day.
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I don't mean to stand on the road.
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You think only him.
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He gets to stop him in the castle right now, gotten to say it.
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I said, what world is that of you?
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Shit, I said, this makes the third time.
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I'll feel that it comes down the tone for you.
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Well, let's do that.
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It's a type of man's whole life.
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There's trouble, let's do care of that.
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I mean, it's back up in the tone for you.
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Well, you need to do something about that.
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You know what you'll do?
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That's right, he takes your big little role.
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Down you eight.
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Now then, why not turn the trailer by?
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Yeah.
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Well, W peque lzo, you know what I'm going to say.
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I'm going to turn it.
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You know what I'm doing, that's for you.
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Okay, so that was that was my grandfather the the the sound quality on that's pretty rough. I'm sorry
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He he recorded that on an old tape recorder with no mic
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On a very cheap cassette outside so
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It's so it is what it is it's pretty it's pretty cool
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So what I'm gonna do this episode I'm gonna talk about home brew
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But I'm not talking about applications. I'm talking about beer and I know a lot of people
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Think about doing home brew from time to time, especially if you're you know beer lover
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It's gonna cross your mind at some point
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And there's a lot of information out there on on home brewing and there's a lot of
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A lot of equipment out there for it and I think the biggest hurdle most people have when they they think about
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Home brewing their own beer is
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You see all this equipment. It's a very expensive and
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A lot of people if they decide to test the waters they wind up buying a
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One of these inexpensive little like mr. Beer type kits or they get one for Christmas and
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So if you look online some of the opinions of the of the
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Mr. Beer kids aren't you know, they're all over the place some people say they're fine some people say they're horrible
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What I wanted to do is just to share some tips
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To get the most out of one of these inexpensive entry-level kits
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Because it is a good way to find out if it's something you want to do or not if it's something you want to invest in
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You know better equipment or
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You know better ingredients and stuff and actually get into or you know if you just want to
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Continue using the mr. Beer kids extremely easy to use
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But you know, you're not gonna get the full home brew experience with it
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But it will it's good for us for beginner. It's a good way to kind of learn how to go through the motions
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But there's a few things that
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I've noticed that when people get bad results out of it. It's usually
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Usually it's one of three things that they have
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They're actually I guess four things that they have
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They've overlooked
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And the
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So I want I want to go over those real quick
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So you if you're in that boat and you decided to
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To try it out. Maybe you'll get a little bit better results
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Save you the trouble and frustration of having to do all this research on your own like I did
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so
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the first thing is
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If you with the kit or even the the refills
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They will come with a little pack of I think it's called no rent sanitizer
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And you will want to use that you will want to use that on anything that's going to touch your beer
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the
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The pot that you're gonna
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Cook the ward in
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any spoons spatulas
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Inside the fermenter the bottles anything that's going to come in contact with your beer
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You're gonna want to make sure you use that no rent sanitizer on
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That's very important because
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uh
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If if foreign particles get in there
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It's not going to
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It's not going to poison your beer, but it's going to most likely make it skunky if you've never had skunky beer
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Count your blessings
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It's there's a reason why they say it's it's skunky beer. It really it's not a pleasant aroma
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um
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So use the sanitizer
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You know
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Be meticulous
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Sanitize everything
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The second thing is
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water
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I forget what is something like 85% of of beer's water
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The better water the the better quality water that you use is going to render a higher quality product in the end
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so
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Don't just
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Fill it up with that nasty stuff that comes out of your tap
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If you guys overseas probably you may not have this problem here in the US our tap water is nasty and
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Just don't use tap water if you have access to a natural spring that has
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You know good water or a natural source of good fresh water
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That that works really well if not and you have to go out and buy water by spring water don't buy distilled water
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um spring water is probably your best bit
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If you have a favorite brand of spring water or something or if you have one of those um
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Those pictures with the filter in it
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um, you know
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You can filter your tap water and it'll work okay. I've seen some people do that
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um
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Just make sure you use you know good quality water
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I think a lot of people who wind up with really nasty beer wind up using just water out of the tap
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They think that's good enough. It'll be fine and it's not
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um
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The third thing is
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Temperature
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um
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So the the beer will ferment at uh, you know, it's as bad
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I don't remember what the optimal temperature is there's a range it's fine
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Whatever they say in the instructions is fine, but just you want to make sure that you know you don't
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Store the fermenter when you're letting the water ferment
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In some place it's really hot or really cold or the temperature goes up and down a lot
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um
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Excuse me
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It needs to be uh fairly stable temperature and um
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And you should be fine
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Uh, and the last thing is is patience um
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One of the things that the instructions in in these cheap kids the particularly the mr. Beer kid. I know says this
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uh
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They they say you can ferment in the fermenter for a week and then condition in the bottle for a week
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And then you can drink your beer and i'm here to tell you that that is complete fiction
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Um don't do it. It's
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You're not going to be pleased with what you wind up with um
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Let it set in the fermenter for two weeks
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Uh, if it sits in there for three, it's not going to hurt it
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um
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I've let some go over i've let a couple batches go over to three weeks um and then when you bottle it
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You're going to want to let the let it set in the bottles
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This this process is called conditioning you let it set in the the bottles for i would let it set for a couple of weeks
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And uh then you can stick them in the fridge and get them cold and drink them
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um
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Because that that extra time is
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Just trust me. Just do it. Don't don't do the two-week thing. That's going to you're going to wind up with something nasty
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Some swill it you don't want
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Uh, that's another place where that's very common for people to uh go wrong their first time trying to home brew
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um
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I don't even know why they put that in the instructions. That's just crazy
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um
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So uh
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Those are really the four big ones
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sanitize good water
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stable temperature and and give it enough time to work. It's magic
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uh, there's a few other little tips
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um
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Just on the tail end of this
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I want to talk about one is uh yeast
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So if you if you buy one of these inexpensive kits or you buy refill for it
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It's going to come with a little pack of yeast
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and that yeast uh
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I've seen humbers on forums and stuff talk about how horrible it is and that you're better off
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um
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Investing a couple extra dollars in getting some premium yeast uh that it it enhances the flavor profile and all this stuff
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I've never had bad luck with the yeast that comes with
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the kits
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so
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I don't know
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If you want to experiment with that you buy all means go ahead
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I'm never really had an issue with the the yeast it comes with
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Uh, I think the big thing is like I said giving it enough time to to work its magic and making sure the temperature is stable
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um
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They also sell
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A little thing
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It's called yeast nutrient and you can buy like a pound bag of it. It's pretty cheap
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I forget how much it is you can get it either from home brew supplier or they sell it on amazon
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um and you can add some of that
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uh at the beginning of the fermentation process and it it helps to keep the yeast healthy and
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Doing its thing
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um
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I did try some of it. It seemed that it worked okay. I don't know. I don't know what to tell you if it if it actually did anything
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um
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Amazing or not
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um
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But you can do that too if you want
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um
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I also want to talk about a few differences in
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Beer that you buy in the store versus beer that you brew yourself at home
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so
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um
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There's a few processes that beer
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Undergoes when you buy it in the store that you actually will not be doing or you will be doing differently in a home brew situation
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So when you buy beer in the store it's usually it has been filtered and has been pasturized
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You're probably not going to do that in a home brew situation. It's okay. It's not going to hurt you
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um
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We've been making beer
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Without filtering or pasturizing it for several thousand years now um
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The uh
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I actually to be honest like it better when it's not filtered or pasturized it it's it's it's definitely different um
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You'll be able to taste the difference when you when you drink your own beer that you've made the first time
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I can't I don't know it it is better than the stuff in the store. I think
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Um, that's an opinion of mine
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You know your your mileage may vary
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um the other thing is is
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carbonation
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So when you buy beer in the store
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it's
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Force carbonated by injecting CO2 in it
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um
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The same way they do soda or any other carbonated beverage
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Um, and then it's kept in pressurized containers until it's consumed
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um
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With home brew you can actually buy the equipment to do that
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Um, there's really not much of a reason to most humbers what they do and what you'll be doing if you're just
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You know getting started and just trying this out is when you go to bottle it
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You're going to put some sugar in each of the bottles before you
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drain the firm inner into the bottles
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And that sugar is called priming sugar and what it does is it reactivates the yeast inside the beer and
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It's not a lot just a little and it will create a little more alcohol
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Not a significant amount, but what it also does is creates it releases CO2
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And it does this naturally
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So this is called natural carbonation and it it's a different
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I guess body is the word I'm looking for it
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It's going to be differently body than beer you buy in the store and
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The carbonation natural carbonation is a little bit different. I've noticed
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Uh, when you pour it if you pour it into a mug or something
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um
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It's going to get a really big foam head on it, but it'll dissipate quicker than what you get
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In the you know in store bobbeer
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um
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And I think that's about it
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If you're uh if you're on the fence, it's you know home brew is pretty fun
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It's it's legal to do in the States. That's another thing of
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I don't know why but people seem to think this is illegal
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You can legally brew I think it's
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200 gallons per calendar year for personal use now you can't sell it you have to have a liquor license to sell
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You can give it to your family and friends. Uh, I usually just drink mine
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um
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But
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There you go if you if you've ever thought about if you're wondering it's not
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terribly hard
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Uh, and I think the kids are pretty inexpensive now if you want to give it a shot
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I would recommend going ahead doing it and if you have any uh questions
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um
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About it, you know, you can
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Leave a comment or shoot me email or something
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I will do my best to answer your questions on that front
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And uh, that's about it for me today. Thanks for listening
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and
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I haven't enjoyed your beer
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