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Episode: 2155
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Title: HPR2155: Ohio LinuxFest 2016
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Source: https://hub.hackerpublicradio.org/ccdn.php?filename=/eps/hpr2155/hpr2155.mp3
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Transcribed: 2025-10-18 15:01:45
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This is an HPR episode 2,155 entitled Ohio Linux Fest 2016.
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It is hosted by AYUKA and is about 19 minutes long.
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The summary is my experience of Ohio Linux Fest 2016.
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Hello, this is AYUKA, welcoming you to Hacker Public Radio and another exciting episode.
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This time I want to talk about Ohio Linux Fest 2016, which I just got back from.
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So I thought I would share some of my experiences with the rest of the Hacker Public Radio audience,
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a few of which were probably there.
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So one of the things that we had this year that was a very nice addition was a podcasters
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table that Joe Heck had set this up originally and we had 51.50 was there from the Hacker
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Public Radio group, also representing Linux lugcast.
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We had door to door geek from the pod nuts network and Richard Hughes from the Linux
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link tech show and there's probably some others I didn't necessarily catch everyone's name.
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But it was nice to have a table just for tech podcasters and swag that was being handed
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out, stickers, cups, what have you.
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So it was very nice and you may hear more about that from 51.50 because he was the one
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representing Hacker Public Radio there, I wasn't, because I was doing other things.
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So the Ohio Linux Fest is generally a two day event.
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So the first day they have, and that would, the first day was Friday, October 7th, and
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there were two things going on.
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One of them was a professional training, what they call the Ohio Linux Fest Institute,
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and that gives you the opportunity to get training in various tech subjects from professionals
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and usually it's a few hundred dollars to get into that.
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The same time that's going on, there's something they call the early penguins track and all
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that means is that this is another track of talks that happens a day earlier than the
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main event of Saturday.
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So it's not so much that it's for beginners.
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I mean, we had things like real world integration with CF engine, what's happening with open
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NMS, brief introduction to GNU screen.
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I heard something good about devs are from Mars, Ops are from Venus, Michael Lucas on
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introducing ZFS and so on.
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So there were some, some pretty good talks there.
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I was driving down from Michigan, so I took Friday off from work, drove down, and it was
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afternoon by the time I got there.
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But I was in time for the opening keynote and that was Catherine Devlin.
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And Catherine Devlin is someone who might be well known to people in the Python community
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where she's very active.
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But her talk was about hacking bureaucracy with something called 18F.
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And 18F is an interesting thing, it is a government program.
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And what they were looking at is that in the private sector, private industry, you can
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move fast, you can do agile, you can spin things up in the cloud and so on.
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And that tends to be stuff that the government doesn't really know anything about and the
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government has all this bureaucracy and everything is civil service and what have you.
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So the way 18F was set up is it's people from private industry who come in as essentially
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temporary workers, I talked to Catherine about this and apparently you can come in for
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two years and then get renewed for an additional two years and then you have to leave because
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otherwise you start becoming subject to civil service and all of that kind of stuff.
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So these are all, I wouldn't call them volunteers exactly, they're getting a salary but they're
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only there sort of as a temporary public service kind of thing.
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So she shared a lot of the things that they're doing and then there was a talk the next
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day by one of her colleagues, Stephen Harms, who was sharing with us some of the cloud-related
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stuff that they're doing and it was a talk called cloud.gov automated scalable, resilient
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and powered by Linux.
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So they're starting to introduce a lot of these features of the startup world into government
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and helping to make it more efficient.
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Catherine, it was very easy to tell listening to her was just terribly excited by this and
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when I talked to her afterwards, she was kind of regretful about the fact that she was
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going to have to leave at some point and probably in about two years because I believe
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she said she started in 2014 and the longest you can stay is a total of four years.
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So she's coming to the end on that.
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After that there was a kind of a happy hour party sponsored by Oracle and had some drinks
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and some food and what have you and that was done in the vendor room.
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So you got to snack and get a beer and walk around and take a look at all the vendor
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tables and so it was Oracle, IBM, Nagios, who was one of the sponsors.
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This is where the hacker public radio and all of the other podcasters had their table.
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There was an Ubuntu table and a company called Cover My Meds, which is kind of an interesting
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thing.
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I got to talk to them about what they do and that involves basically what they do is try
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and set things up if you have prescriptions and in the United States there's this whole
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thing about if you want to get a prescription filled that has to be authorized by the insurance
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company first.
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So they basically handle a lot of that bureaucracy for you and if you're in a civilized country
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you don't really worry about that stuff.
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So the next day, Saturday, I had a very nice breakfast with Mary Tomich from the Sunday
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Morning Linux review and her partner and then went to the opening keynote and this was
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by Ethan Galstad, who is the founder, entrepreneur, etc. of Nagios and so he was telling the whole
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story about how he had started that company, lessons he had learned, what kinds of things
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you would want to keep in mind if you wanted to become an entrepreneur and get involved
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in starting up a company or some other kind of organization.
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So it was a very interesting talk.
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After that I wandered back into the vendor room similar and got a chance to talk to a
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few more people, Richard Hughes from the Linux link tech show was there and I was happy
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because I know he lives in Florida and we've had this hurricane so I had actually sent
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an inquiry, you know, are you okay kind of thing and so seeing him there kind of answered
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that question.
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I talked to him and Joel McLaughlin, who is also from the Linux link tech show and some
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of the other folks, then I went to a very interesting talk called Improving Computer Science
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education with FOSS style projects by Roberto Sanchez.
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So he's teaching computer science and he's doing it with obviously some good industry experience
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as a programmer and he was talking about how he uses projects and he sets the projects
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up in a way that is familiar to open source people and uses similar kinds of tools so
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that his students get some experience.
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He said a lot of times computer science classes is just sit there and code something and
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he pointed out that that's not how most people involved in development spend most of their
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time.
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So he was trying to teach them about GitHub and being able to do merges and pull requests
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and collaborating with people using various online collaboration tools and even talked
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about someone who's not even in his college and in a college in a different state who wanted
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to get be a part of it.
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He said, yeah, that's fine.
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So we'll do everything with remote access tools.
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Very inspiring talk and I loved hearing what he was doing.
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And after lunch, I went to the cloud.gov thing that I had mentioned previously and this
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was a little more technical because he was talking about specifically what are the technologies
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they use.
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How do you set up a cloud thing in the government?
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And they basically have a contract with Amazon so they're using the Amazon cloud that
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you might use if you were a private company and talked about the different technologies
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that they use.
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Then I went to a talk by Brian Sherwin about open source software at Microsoft.
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I know that that is for some people pretty controversial.
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There was one fellow in the presentation was obviously very hostile to the whole thing.
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But the way I look at it, trust but verify.
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So I assume Microsoft is going to do whatever is in their corporate best interest.
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And they're going to do whatever is going to make them the most money.
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And basically they have a cloud environment called Azure and they were saying, hey, a pretty
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high proportion of our customers want to be able to run Linux on that.
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And they actually, it was very interesting he was talking about they have a partnership
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with Red Hat and that includes having some Red Hat employees that are stationed at the
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Microsoft campus at Redmond.
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And how if you're running Red Hat in the Azure cloud, anytime you open up a support ticket,
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it automatically opens up with both Red Hat and Microsoft and instead of pointing fingers
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at each other and saying, no, no, this is the other guy's problem, they take ownership
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of the problem.
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So it was an interesting talk I was glad I went.
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After that was my turn to give a talk.
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And it was one that I've recorded for hacker public radio, password best practices in the
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last pass hack.
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It's a good thing I've given it before and recorded it for hacker public radio and everything
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else because my computer had a problem.
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And that is that the video just refused to function.
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So that there was nothing being projected on the screen and it's like, okay, what am I
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going to do?
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I've got a talk to give.
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So I just said to heck with the slides and I gave the talk and it seemed to work out
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pretty well.
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So all's well that ends well on that.
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And then right after that, Tony Beamos from the Sunday Morning Linux review did a talk
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on offensive security and countermeasures using Cali Linux and this was very much a demonstration.
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And in fact, one of the things he did was he brought in his own router and set up a little
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network inside the room, not connected to the internet or any other network.
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It was isolated but several of it, myself included, I had obviously my laptop with me.
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I logged into it and three or four other people logged into his little network and then he
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was able to demonstrate using NMAP and what kinds of results he was getting and how he
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could ask questions about the nature of the computer and the operating system, et cetera
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and how those things work.
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And then he also gave a demonstration using his own Android phone of how you can put an
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exploit onto an Android phone if you can get someone to run the APK file that you've created.
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I took a break after that and I had my computer with me and it's a big heavy bag with all
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of my stuff so I took it back to the room.
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But I got back for the closing keynote which was a lot of fun, democratization of invention
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with Joe and Lily Bourne.
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Now Joe Bourne was someone who first came to the attention of a lot of us for a device
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called Neuros which is a multimedia player and there were several different versions of
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it.
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There's one called Neuros OSD which I have.
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Well, you know, at a certain point that didn't really work out very well.
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He's now with a company called Iowa but what was most fascinating, Lily is his daughter.
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And a 14 year old girl and it was interesting because he was talking about how at one point
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she was so shy she wouldn't even talk to the waiter in her restaurant if she had to order
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food, someone else had to order it for her.
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You wouldn't believe it looking at her now because she was just bouncing all over the
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room and it was an interesting story she had to tell.
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It started with her grandfather having Parkinson's disease and one of his problems was when
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he got a drink he'd tend to spill it.
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And so, you know, as a seven year old she sketched out an idea of a cup with three legs.
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Three legs get just ability, right?
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Well that was just the start.
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You know, her father being someone who was an entrepreneur who knew something about business
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was able to say, well, you know, what do you want to do with this?
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And so they initially did a Kickstarter and got the device, this cup and they called
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it the kangaroo cup.
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And the idea is a kangaroo has three points stability because it's not only two feet
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but the tail provides stability and so they wanted to suggest the three points stability.
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And they did up, like I think it was 1,500 of these cups that the Kickstarter got them.
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Did that run and shipped all of those out?
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And then you know, started to get more inquiries and started looking into other things.
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And finally ended up going with 3D printing, making it out of plastic.
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But you know, various things started to happen.
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You know, the media started to find out, you know, what is this young girl doing, creating
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this product and getting it out there?
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Well, long story short, she gets invited to the White House.
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She meets the president, she gets to meet Bill Nye, the science guy and so it was just
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absolutely wonderful presentation and probably all of you would have enjoyed it if you
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had been there, but I was there.
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So I'm going to share that part with you.
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And then finally there was an after party sponsored by Nagios, who was, you know, we had the
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founder of Nagios as a keynote speaker, they were a sponsor for Ohio Linux Fest.
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So you know, it's a great company with a great story.
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And they were giving out t-shirts that said, the only people who monitor more than us as
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the NSA, something like that.
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So it was nice and so that the after party was a chance to spend some time with friends.
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So I spent a fair amount of time with my fellow podcasters with 5150, door to door geek, Richard
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Hughes and some other folks.
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But I also got a chance to wander around the room and chat with various people and of
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course, as in my capacity as the tech track programmer for PenguinCon, I was, you know,
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lining up some possible speakers for that and doing a little work to get some leads.
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So that was Ohio Linux Fest 2016.
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I had a great time, I hope I can get back next year.
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It remains to be seen.
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It depends on what dates they pick and whether I have a conflict, but I've already got an
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idea of a presentation that I'd like to put together and give if everything works out.
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So this is Ahuka signing off for Hacker Public Radio and reminding you as always to support
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free software.
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Bye-bye.
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