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Episode: 2281
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Title: HPR2281: HPR Community News for April 2017
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Source: https://hub.hackerpublicradio.org/ccdn.php?filename=/eps/hpr2281/hpr2281.mp3
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Transcribed: 2025-10-19 00:52:42
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This is HBR episode 2,281 entitled HBR Community News for April 2017 and is part of the series
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HBR Community News. It is posted by HBR volunteers and is about 92 minutes long and carries an
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explicit flag. The summary is HBR volunteers talk about show release and comment posted
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in April 2017. This episode of HBR is brought to you by an honest host.com.
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Hello everybody. Welcome to Hacker Public Radio. This is the Community News show for the month
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of April. Ken always says problems with this. I can see why there's a lot of months
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floating around in front of me here. Anyway, tonight, Ken is not available, so I thought I was
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going to have to do this on my own and you will be delighted to know that I don't have to,
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because I have two friends to come and help out. We have tonight, Christopher Hobbs. Say hello,
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Christopher. Hello, Christopher. And we have JWP. Would you like to go by JWP by the way?
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Yes. Hello, JWP here. Thank you very much for joining me and to help out with this fun event.
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So the first thing we do is to speak about new hosts this month. And we've had two. We have FTH
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and VNAM, I think is the way he pronounced his name. So we'll be getting around to looking at
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their shows as we go along. So the genderists will go through all the various shows that have
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been broadcast or come out on the feed this past month. And we will be looking at any comments
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that have been made to them. Then we'll check any other comments and then we'll look at
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email in that period. So the first show for April was the last community news.
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And normally we don't say much about the last community news, because it gets very recursive if
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we do, but we had some comments on this one. And we had one from JWP. Do you care to read out your
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comment to this? If you've got it in front of you, JWP. I have the website in front of me,
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Dave, but it says HPR volunteers as the host. And so I'll just click on it to see the comments.
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It's okay. It's okay. What I normally do, what can and I normally do, because we've been
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doing this for a while now. So it's just sort of a habit more than anything else, is the
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the notes that will go out with this show contain links to each of the shows. So you can follow
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through to the show. I've got my notebook and another tab so that I can just look at the comments
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to it. But if you manage to find where we are, then let me know and I'll hand over to you to
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to do a bit of reading if you feel like it. But otherwise I'll just go ahead with these, yeah.
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So the comment on the last community news show from JWP was one button submit,
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where he asked, how do you upload the voice memo of an iPhone to HPR? I'm a fan of one button
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upload. Then the next comment was myself, not relevant to JWP's comment, where I was simply
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remarking on the fact that during the show, we spoke of the amateur radio round table.
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And I forgot to mention a podcast episode that I'd heard recently. And the podcast is called
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Exposing Sudo Astronomy. And the guy was talking about the subject of radiation.
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And to my mind, he did a really good job of explaining this subject. And I put a link to it
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and the feed if you're interested. So if you don't quite get what radiation means in the sense of,
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you know, his x-ray radiation, his cosmic rays radiation, et cetera, he's an astronomer,
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and he did a brilliant job of explaining it. I thought the third comment was from Ken Fallon
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who was applying to JWP's comment, where he says one button will not fix the steady supply problem.
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Hi, JWP. Yes, it would be nice if you could have a one button record function,
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but it will only benefit the season contributors like yourself. Most people struggle with having
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the perfect show and procrastinate about the hums and ores. The last people to use a one button
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stroke dial-in option of the exact people we're trying to target. This will not fix the steady
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supply of shows issue. So comment, I think. So pushing on to show 2262, we had Eric Dohanel,
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with the show entitled Abstracting Nurse Jesus. So as I understood this, he was largely talking
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about his random number generator in the game. I think that he was producing, yes, he's using
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pie game to make a game. So he was talking about the random number generator needed to do various
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things in it. I talked to Eric pretty regularly, and if you haven't tried his little Python games,
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they're a lot of fun. I don't mean to be demeaning to call it little Python games, but
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they're very simple and quite enjoyable to play. It's been a lot of fun listening to him,
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explain his thought process with building these things. Yeah, it's a pretty good episode, I think.
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Yeah, I've seen him mention it on new social, because he's on there as well, but I've not really
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followed it up. Sounds worth a check. It's quite fun. It feels like a mix between a dungeon crawler
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to some degree and Pac-Man. That's an interesting combination. Okay, let's get on. Sorry.
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Sorry. Go ahead, go ahead. I was going to say the name of it is a labyrinth of the dead.
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Cool. Okay, I'll check that out. So I was going to push on to show 2 to 6, 3, which is
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Freak Does Geek by FTH, one of our new hosts. Now, this was a very unusual and interesting
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show where he was talking, he was out with his friend, who's always friend Hugh, I had made a
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note of it, and they were on the bus. I think having dropped their kids off and we're talking about
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various things, and they had some fascinating things to discuss, and Hugh is visually impaired,
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so his insight to these various things were quite amazing. It was a fascinating show, I thought.
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Yeah, I really enjoyed this one as well. I used to build interfaces for the blind, and it was
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neat to hear their descriptions of his perception of the world around him, especially after
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having, I believe he was previously sighted. Yes, I think so, yes. He's lost most of his sight,
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I believe, in the failure recent past, but yeah, it was very interesting. They were talking about
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tape recorders, cassette tape recorders, the sort of portable one, which was interesting in itself,
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and it is quite an interestingly broad discussion of things related to audio matters on the bus,
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and you can hear the ambient signs of the bus in the background for the show. I always like to
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have these sort of scene-setting noises in the background. Absolutely, and I hope they do
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another episode. I especially learned a little bit about MP3. I don't think I knew any of the
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history about it, and so it was nice to get that lesson rolled in with the nicer audio escape as
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well. Yeah, absolutely. We had one comment on this show, which was from Beezer, who said,
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Brilliant Show. I rarely listened to an HBR episode, which I don't find interesting to some extent.
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However, this one excelled in that just about everything was new to me. The perspective of a
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visually impaired person of how the world looks in quotes was both rare and fascinating.
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I would do, it would do all of us good to be reminded that the world's not perceived by everyone
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the same way. I do hope that you produced some more shows soon, which I completely agree with.
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I thought the comment was really nice. Good, good comment. Yes, indeed, indeed. It's good. Again,
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as we've said before, getting some sort of supportive comments on, especially on the first show
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that's been so many to HBR is a great thing, and just to say welcome on board or whatever it is.
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Yeah, that was a good comment I thought. So, Moving on, show 264 at the Library by Bill
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NFMZ1 Miller. So, he was talking about his local library and features that it offers,
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and it was really, I personally found this great. I've been a great believer in libraries all my life
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really, and the picture that he painted was sounded as if libraries are still going strong,
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particularly in his part of the world at least. So, that's good. Well, as an American living in
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Germany, the German government in calls were kept one of the American Army libraries open and
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active, and so they do everything pretty much that Bill was talking about in his podcast.
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But in particularly when it's closed on the weekends, they still keep the stairwell open,
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so you can drop off and donate whatever you want, and then they sell it on eBay to sort of keep
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the library going at the city. But it's really amazing what you can do, and in particularly a lot
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of libraries help with homelessness in the States with internet access, and such things,
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so that people can apply for jobs and get off the streets in the States. So, libraries are
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still pretty important in today's society. Absolutely, yes, yes, it's good that they still exist
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in the sort of traditional way. It got me thinking about using my local library I used to when
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my kids were small. They're in their 20s now, so it tend not to be at the library much,
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and I went to the local library and made sure my library card was renewed, so I can go and make
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use of it when I get a chance. So, yeah, thanks Bill for that. Heads up.
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Yeah, it was fantastic, and you mentioned for traditional things, but it's important to note too,
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which he underscores that libraries have much more than just traditional things,
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and one of my local library's authors, baking sheets and fishing poles for checkout.
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So, I'm a huge proponent of libraries, and really enjoyed this episode, for sure.
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Yeah, I'd like to hear what other libraries are doing. That would be an interesting thing,
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because as you say, there's a lot more to them than they used to be. I think John
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cult did a show on going to his library where they had a maker space there that he was using
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using the 3D printer or something like that. So, I guess libraries are moving in those sorts
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of directions, which is wonderful to see. So, there were three comments on this show. First one
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was from Clinton Roy, where he said PODNUTs, and he said PODNUTs podcast was referenced,
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and he gave a link to it, and he followed up with a second comment. Great idea. I should definitely
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do this in my library, I think he's already meant to be a missed word, but yeah, it's good, very good.
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And Windigo said similar experience. While living on the North Coast California, the library was
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more than just a repository for paper books. It was essentially a community centre. My partner and
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I attended talks and classes, spent time in between appointments reading, using their Wi-Fi,
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and borrowed plenty of movies and books from our branch. Libraries are a fantastic resource
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and seem to be helping release fortune in our communities. So, yeah. Okay, show 2265,
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what OS on Lenovo X61S from Tony Hughes? The eSpeaker calls him Aka, which I found amusing.
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Tony H1212, this is also known as name. So, this is Tony with his, I think both John,
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JWP and I have met Tony, because he's always busy at org camps, doing all sorts of things
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in the background. So, but anyway, he's obviously a guide for a bargain and for obtaining interesting
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and useful, smaller machines. And he's talking about his Lenovo and running what OS on it.
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Which sounds like a great little machine, I thought. Yeah, you know, that's an addiction to have
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those old small things as a Nokia in 700 person and a Azuz 701 person. You know, those can be
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quite addictive and they last forever. They just go on and on and on. They never break. They just
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continue. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. It's good to see. I'm all for that myself. Yeah, it's one of the
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beauties of things like GNU Linux and all of these other lower resource consumption distributions.
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I use a lot of old hardware too, so I started looking into what OS after reading this and I made
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a bit of shot on a couple of things, but yeah, they're tanks the old ones are. Yeah, they're
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pretty robust machines, aren't they? I don't actually know this one personally, but
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imagine all of these Lenovo's of that era are pretty good machines. So there were no comments
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on that one, so we'll move on to 2266 gamebooks, so sort of sub-series or tabletop gaming,
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and the gamebook is Loan Wolf, and this is from Clare 2. So this is about
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a particular type of sort of single-person game that you can play with what's effectively a
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programmed book from what I understood. I've never seen these. I remember programmed learning
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books, which are not really very popular these days, but it sounds quite cool actually that you
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can sort of roll a set of dice or something, and then I use some other sort of random source,
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and then it tells you how to move forward through the book, and so forth. Any other view guys
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into this sort of thing? Well, I'm not very familiar with it, but I downloaded the first one after
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I heard about it. It sounded a lot like a choose your adventure book, and I enjoyed this episode
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and his subsequent episode on the topic. I don't know that I have time to do this because my leisure
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time is spent with other activities, but the 20 or so minutes I spent with Loan Wolf was really
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cool. I wish that I had this when I was a lot younger. I probably would have spent a lot of time
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playing these. The really neat, especially the one that he mentioned where two people could play
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simultaneously, I think he called it like the black knight and the white and mage. Maybe I'm
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making that up, but yeah, very interesting. That's pretty close with what you said. That's pretty
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close what it was. Somewhere in the neighborhood from that, but yeah, it brought back all kinds of
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things from my childhood or dungeons and dragons and things like this, but I'm like you, I just
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don't have enough time to really sit down and do that. No, it's understandable. My daughter's
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into dungeons and dragons. She's at university now, and she's, she and her friends played D&D when
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they get a chance, and I should point to her at least see if there might be something of interest to
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her. So she wants to be a dungeon master at some point, so maybe that'll give us some clues of it
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to to doing that. That's it. We had one comment from Les Orchard, who said, man, I love these books
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back in junior high in the 80s. I would usually read and play these in class, after I got classwork
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done, I could sneakily, sneakily drop a pencil on the random government table and not get into
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in trouble, I could do a few times for rolling dice, because I was one of those kids who roll dice
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in class. That's a nice story. I can certainly relate to that one. Yeah, yeah, that's good.
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Okay, let's move on to the next one, 2267 from Sigflop, our digital art, and in this one, she is
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talking to a friend, whose name is cis, and they are both... I know Sigflop has schizophrenia,
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and she's talked about it quite a lot. I suspect that her friend does this well, but I can't
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honestly remember whether that was the case, but they're both... I believe it was mentioned, yeah.
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Yes, they both artists, they both produce some very, very amazing looking pictures, which are
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available to see on the show, show notes, and they both produce books of their art, which is
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quite astonishing, actually. I have, I mean, huge admiration of people who can do this.
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Well, in the audio overlay, through... I think all of her episodes is really cool to
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she plays some nice music during the interviews and during her discussions, and I think that really
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added to their topic, you know, the art of music along with their digital painting.
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Yeah, yeah. As you say, the, I think, cis is into photography as well, I understood right,
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but yes, it's digital stuff, isn't it? So, that's also very impressive what you can do
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with that. I wasn't quite clear how this was done, exactly. Did they say, oh, yeah,
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they said Gimp and things. Was that what was said? Somebody used Gimp, I think.
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Yeah, I think cis used more traditional tools like Adobe products, but the Gimp was used
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by the host, and she even mentions that she uses a mouse instead of a tablet, which I thought was
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fantastic, and they also talked a little bit about using iPads to produce art.
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Yeah, that's quite astonishing. My daughter is, she's a biology student, but she was in two minds when
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she went off to university, whether she wanted to do art instead, so she does do quite a lot of
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fur drawing, and she does digital stuff on an iPad, but she's, so she would probably be interested
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in some of this stuff. I just find it quite an impressive form of art in this way.
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So there were no comments on that one, so we'll move on to 2268, which is again from Bill
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in the MZ1 Miller, and I should do that like in the correct ham radio style, but I don't know.
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And his show was about fishing. Fish on, he called it, and he was talking about various
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resources and hints relating to fishing, to planning a fishing trip and that type of thing.
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Yeah, he mentioned a lot of good apps. I tried to leave my phone behind when I'm fishing,
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but I think I may have a reason to drag it with me out onto the lake now, but we'll see.
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I didn't know about most of these. I mean, Google Maps and Google Weather, of course,
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seeing like a lot of people know about, I hadn't considered using them for fishing, but
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the app for tying braided lines was especially interesting too, because those knots can be tricky.
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Yeah, I've not done much fishing in my life. I've done a little bit of what they call
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course fishing, and that British term, I'm not sure you just fish in rivers and that type of
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stuff, but only have a the tiniest amount of knowledge in this area, but
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sounds like some amazing facilities there for helping you out.
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Yeah, with me here in Germany, I hunt and I do a little bit of fishing, but
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all of that for me is with a candy bar phone, because the whole idea of it is to be
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away from electronics. Yeah, I can understand that.
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Okay, let's move on to 2269, which is called chocolate milk.
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And this was a show by Venem, that's how he pronounced it, and it was effectively a syndicated
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show. The only sort of syndication that we do now is if somebody finds a show or are doing a
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show of themselves, they can set up an HPR episode where they talk about it to introduce it,
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and so forth, and that's what this was. And the podcast that was being talked about was called
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Nixas, and there was a whole bunch of things that were being discussed here on a quite a nice
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interview or chat, I suppose, where we talk about buckling spring keyboards and plan 9 operating
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system and chocolate milk. That was good. I mean, to me, for me, this is the hacker public radio
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right here. When they came up and they started talking about all keyboards, I used to collect
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deck keyboards and make them work with PCs and UNIX, and then he started talking about chocolate
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milk, which I'm drinking right now. So it was really speaking to you there, JWP. That's cool,
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that's very cool. Yeah, the keyboard thing fascinated me. I'm quite keen on different types of
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keyboards. My son, who, I don't know how he got into it, is a guy who builds keyboards,
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and he, I just happened to have a collection of old keyboards in my house, and he grabbed an IBM
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model M type keyboard. Yeah, it's a true IBM. So it's a bit, it's a before the Unicom stuff,
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which are clones of the model M, and he completely refurbished it for me. That was my Christmas
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present. Yeah, refurbished with an 18 mega clone in it to run the keyboard. And obviously it was
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a PS1 originally now. It's a USB keyboard. I've yet to work out what I can do with it. I'm not
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using it just at the moment, but I've not got into all of the capabilities of it yet. That's going
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to be a project for later. So I really feel what they're talking about there. That was, that was
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very cool, I thought. I'm a cherry user myself, and it would be neat to see someone do an expanded
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episode about keyboards. They're really catching on now, and also quite enjoyed this episode,
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because I was a planned nine user for a long time. I really enjoy the Agni editors, so it was nice
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here and then talk about that too. So yeah, somebody out there should probably do an episode on
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mechanical keyboards and one on planned nine as well. I would love to learn more about planned nine.
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I knew of it, but never experienced it or anything about sort, and that, it sounds, sounds really
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good. Was it, who, who did, was Dennis Richie, one of the contributors to planned nine? I can't
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remember. Yeah, he was, along with Rob Pike, and that general crew. In fact, I believe Rob Pike
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contributed the user interface for it, I think it's called Rio. Right. Yeah, okay, very cool.
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Yeah, Dennis Richie used to hang out at the university. I, when he used to visit the university,
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I worked at moderately often, so I've never spoken to him, but I never spoke to him, I should say,
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but he used to come along to the various Unix user group meetings, and that type of stuff.
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Very impressive guy, pretty amazing. So yeah, yeah, I would, yeah, it's hindsight and all that.
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It would have been great to have had a chat with him about that too late now. There you go.
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But a very interesting episode, I would love to hear, must listen to more of these.
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Yeah, as you say, JWP, that sort of content that goes down well on HPR.
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So there were comments here. Do you want to read that? Can you see your, your own comment, JWP?
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Do you want to read it out? Sure, I have it. I wrote the first thing I said was great.
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I really like your talk about Plant 7, the keyboard. I love Log Clicks 2, and of course,
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I love chocolate milk. So three gold stars for you at Ken. This is the Ubergeek stuff that
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rocks me to the core. And the next one is by a guy named DOD Dummy, and he said, I like to show.
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But I enjoyed the show, but I'm curious if its counts as a centricated show, not created for HPR.
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I repeat, I like to show, and in fact, I've added to my list. And then Ken came with a really long
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or really long thing as per the summary, a sample show of the Mixers podcast.
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He's really re-iterating the stuff that I mentioned earlier on about how we do do,
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we don't syndicate them as such, but we do offer people a route to tell the community about
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other shows, so just save you a bit. It's interesting because, again, in life, because I've got to do
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SAP stuff during the day, I only have time for so many. And the HPR, so I have my HPR feed,
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and if I'm listening to Jupiter Broadcasting, their feed, that's about all the tech stuff I'm going to
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get for the week. And so if they want to mix one of theirs and everyone to them while, especially if
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it's that quality, I'm very good with it. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. What we used to do in the past
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was we would syndicate shows so that they would run things like Sunday Morning Linux review,
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for example, would pop up every week or every couple of weeks, whatever it was, as a syndicated show
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on HPR, where we stopped doing that, per se, but a way of just getting shows out there is still
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open to anybody who wants to do it, so I think it's great. There is, again, mentions that Hacker Media,
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which is a sister site for HPR, does do syndication of stuff, so he's going to look into whether
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these sorts of things could be syndicated through that route. Okay, moving on then to show 227O,
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which was me doing the final episode talking about managing tags on HPR episodes third in a group.
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And it was just really how to do database stuff, but trying to make the point that we need to do
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something relating to tags, to make it easier to find related shows on the site or whatever,
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really to get some discussion going, was what it was about. I'm glad you took the initiative on
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this one. There was a lot of talk in the past on the mailing list about tags, and I don't think
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there were a lot of solutions provided, so it was good to see a collection of them spread out,
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and this combined with your other database episode was a really nice sort of abstract dive
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into some of the capabilities of databases that people might not see often if they use an object
|
||||
relationship map or something of that nature. That's a good point, actually, I hadn't thought of that.
|
||||
Yeah, I quite like playing with databases, but I'm just an amateur, really, but I just like it,
|
||||
yeah, I feel that maybe we should have some shows about the guts of databases, perhaps.
|
||||
But yeah, you're right, the object relational thing hides lots of it away, and I don't really like
|
||||
that very much personally, but that's because I'm old and stuck in my ways. So there were a bunch of
|
||||
comments. Sorry, Jamie. Oh, yeah, yeah. Well, I listened there, but after three or four minutes,
|
||||
you got over my head really, really quickly, but I listened, it was okay for me, but it was,
|
||||
it was really really, as someone who doesn't do databases at all, it was really, really hard.
|
||||
Yeah, I know, I apologize at various points for the fact that this might not be your thing,
|
||||
if you're not into databases, but I hope it might appeal to some people who were and they
|
||||
who could make some, give some feedback on the way forward, perhaps some suggestions or just,
|
||||
some comments to the fact that, yeah, you're not doing too badly or this is the way to do it or
|
||||
something. So the show got a bunch of comments, some of which remind commenting back to people.
|
||||
The first one was from Steve who said, make it so, as someone who is also not formally trained
|
||||
in database administration, but nonetheless does quite a bit of database administration
|
||||
and development. What you've said, and the conclusion you've drawn sounds exactly right to me,
|
||||
I say make it so. So I replied to that saying, thanks Steve, I appreciate the comment.
|
||||
And we're looking at how we can incorporate such features into the database and modify
|
||||
all the code around it. So this was then followed by a comment by GWS who says, a series is the same
|
||||
thing as a tag. If you need to distinguish them, put another column in the tag table, then join
|
||||
across the episode, then the join across the episode tag is the same. I think you put some,
|
||||
some chevrons in there which got eaten by the comment system. So makes it read a little odd.
|
||||
But yeah, across the episode tag linkage is probably what that means.
|
||||
To which I replied, series same as tag question mark, I think you have a point, except that the
|
||||
series idea was originally designed to have two other significant attributes, a description
|
||||
and a public private flag. The description is an arbitrarily long text field used to store HTML,
|
||||
which is displayed in web page for shows that are part of the series. The public private flag
|
||||
denotes whether the series is open to more contributors or not. Most modern series of public,
|
||||
but some historical ones private. Changing the tag table to include these attributes to be used
|
||||
for series tags is not impossible, of course, it needs some thought. Thanks for the suggestion.
|
||||
And GWS came back and said, variable length columns like bar chart or club, it's not what I know.
|
||||
Should not balloon the size of your tag table just by adding them, even assuming even a moderately
|
||||
sane DBMS, those large and sparse objects would be stored in separate data structure.
|
||||
Think string pool, so you pay for what you use. By the way, my earlier comment was meant to say
|
||||
episode left arrow, ep tag, right arrow tag, but I used angle brackets and the little bit got
|
||||
swallowed by HTML, which is a damn nuisance. I hate it when that happens. I've been caught up
|
||||
by that many times. I think club might be character large object. Oh, thank you. Thank you, yes,
|
||||
yes. Like I say, I'm not that. I know I'm a sort of a self-taught database person, so my
|
||||
knowledge is limited. So yeah, but it's a learning experience. I've got a comment from
|
||||
Brenda J. Butler. I'm new to HPR. Sorry if I make comments that show ignorance of how you do
|
||||
things. Please point me to resources. I'll be happy to read that. I'm not a big DBX, but either,
|
||||
but like you have used some DBs and have a little experience, also a bit of experience making a
|
||||
couple of database backed websites. I like the idea of the third design of tags. I would also change
|
||||
the HPR episode intake process to make any new tags in the new format format have a cut over date
|
||||
time after which all the new entries in the database use the new tagging scheme. Populate the new
|
||||
tags tables and not the old tags fields. In fact, even remove the old tags fields for avoid confusion
|
||||
about which set of tags is the right set. That way you only have to do you only have to do that
|
||||
populate the new tags fields from the old tag fields step once at cut over time. You keep the
|
||||
copy of the old site and update it for a while until confident the new site works properly.
|
||||
I don't know how the HPR site is served. I got the impression from your series that it's
|
||||
static pages generated from a DV. Perhaps you generate a new set of pages when a new
|
||||
episode is added to the database. I think you cannot go this way if you want to use that query you
|
||||
developed. What other shows have? What other shows have at least one of the tags that this show has?
|
||||
At least it will be difficult to implement. Can I read somewhere about the way the website is
|
||||
served, text, stack, etc. Is there a public repo for the code read only acceptable? Thanks for all
|
||||
your great extensive show notes. Really appreciate it. Wow, that's quite a comment.
|
||||
I replied to this tags and series. Thanks GWS. It wasn't so much the storage issue I was referring
|
||||
to, more the logic of the suggested change. I do like what you're proposing though. Sorry,
|
||||
you got bitten by this crappy comment system. I said to Brenda, thanks Brenda, thanks for your
|
||||
comments. There's a GitLab instance with a repository which holds some of the public code. I gave a
|
||||
link to that. Your suggestion of the transition from the old to new tag system is pretty much
|
||||
what I had in mind. We haven't yet discussed all the issues amongst the admins. Can
|
||||
there's janitors? The HBR janitors. The site is not static although there have been discussions
|
||||
about making it so I take your point that there's a conflict between having a static site and
|
||||
offering tag query features though. So quite a lot of comments on that one. Yeah, the
|
||||
comments were pretty interesting. We're pretty interesting here and even though I didn't
|
||||
understand it very much, it appears that there's a lot of people out there that really do get into that.
|
||||
Yeah, yeah, I think so. I hope that that might be the case. There might be some people who
|
||||
would find that that was fun and would come in with comments. So I'm very happy that that happened.
|
||||
That's one of the major benefits of this community. That's for sure. Absolutely, absolutely.
|
||||
So moving on then, show 227-1 Raspberry Pi 0 W and this was Tony Hughes again and he's talking
|
||||
about the new Raspberry Pi 0 W single board computer released on the 28th of February and he does a
|
||||
nice review of it which he was very quick getting this out actually. I think he posted it
|
||||
just days after the 0 W came out so good for you Tony. Excellent. So yeah, it's good to be
|
||||
anyway, sorry, go ahead. Yeah, yeah, that he got it and somehow got it powered in that birdhouse
|
||||
and it's taken pictures of the eggs in the birdhouse and doing our
|
||||
sending back his sensor data to his house. To his house was pretty interesting on that too.
|
||||
Now that totally amazing that he was able to do that, I didn't really understand how he got
|
||||
power out there to that birdhouse. I'm not quite sure how he's done that. No, it's something I'd
|
||||
like to do. I also have two 0 W's, one of which is currently actually running a camera which is
|
||||
looking at the window, but I'd like, I've got a bird feeder, I'd like to keep the thing next to
|
||||
how would you, yeah, power is the issue. You'd need a lithium ion battery or solar power. Yeah,
|
||||
yeah, that's what I was going to say. Yeah, that would be cool. You think it'd be enough. You
|
||||
think you could get a big enough panel and keep the battery charged. I don't think they draw very
|
||||
much. I still haven't bought a single board computer, mostly because there's so many of them in
|
||||
this episode added to my confusion about which one to get, but when I was looking at the specs,
|
||||
I think I think you could charge a battery with a solar panel and go pretty easily with that,
|
||||
even a small one. Yeah, I don't know for certain, but that was the way I was hoping to go.
|
||||
I would quite like to get some close-up shots of birds feeding or something like that.
|
||||
I don't get much of any great interest, but still good pictures, it's worth having. It's fun
|
||||
thing to do. Well, like Ken would say, oh, basement full of the single board computer. So one day,
|
||||
I'll do a show about them. But the SW, people are making stuff. It's a very exciting one. People
|
||||
are making stuff from that. I saw something about using an iPhone 5 keyboard and they were making
|
||||
a PDA out of it and stuff. Fantastic little device. It's a lot of possibilities for that. It's a great
|
||||
machine for all sorts of things like that. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I think you just volunteered too,
|
||||
so let's put that on the record. Yeah, yeah, more shows, please, more shows.
|
||||
So we had one comment on this show from Drupes who said, very cool. I'm really excited to find
|
||||
to get my hands on one of these little ones. My kids and I built several projects with my full-sized
|
||||
ones. I want to teach a class next year using Raspberry Pi's. So that's very cool. I'd like to see
|
||||
what he produces. Drupes is a teacher. I think he changed jobs recently. He's certainly done
|
||||
shows Raspberry Pi about some of the projects he and his class has done. Okay, next one, then
|
||||
is 2272. This is from only half the time. We haven't heard from for a while, I think. It's
|
||||
entitled, in which our hero takes four hours to install Hyper-V Server 2012. It's a tale of woe
|
||||
which boils down to using the wrong sort of raid on a server, a key server, as far as I can
|
||||
gather. It was a very detailed episode. It's some amazingly detailed notes, which is wonderful,
|
||||
and it was very well presented, I thought. Yeah, the delivery here was fantastic, and I've
|
||||
got to admit, when he first led into the bit about raid zero early in the episode, my stomach dropped
|
||||
definitely gave me a little anxiety listening to him initially. This is fantastic. If the other
|
||||
episode about plan nine and whatnot is the embodiment of what we ought to have, I think this one is
|
||||
a continuation of that. The hacker topics, the technical topics, with this wonderful
|
||||
delivery, dramatic delivery was just fantastic. In fact, when I was listening to it, I was
|
||||
in my lodge. We're having an open house, and I was sort of sitting in the corner, laughing to
|
||||
myself, and I'm afraid I may have ran some people off, laughing at his commentary, but yeah,
|
||||
it was a lot of fun. Yeah, he did it really well. You really felt you were there with him,
|
||||
so he was dealing with all these issues. Yeah. Well, I really, next to the plan seven one,
|
||||
I mean, this one was for me the month, and it goes right into what I do at work and stuff,
|
||||
and you'd be surprised. People really do make that mistake with the zero a lot, and then you have
|
||||
to go and have the fix it and his delivery got me three gold stars for delivery. That was so,
|
||||
he must have prepped that thing for a really long time. Yes. Yeah, he did a fantastic job there.
|
||||
We used to run raid zero at the university. I worked on a box that ran the use net new service,
|
||||
because it's a striped set thing, isn't it? I think the, because use net and use is very,
|
||||
very heavy on disk, and I think it was done for that. But isn't there a raid level that when you
|
||||
do a raid one on top of that? Is that raid 10 or something like that? I think it is, isn't it?
|
||||
But yeah, yeah, still, it's a sort of mistake that you can imagine somebody making.
|
||||
There was one comment on this show from Steve, who said, being there entertaining episode,
|
||||
I have so been in situation similar to what you've faced. Thanks for sharing.
|
||||
So the next show was from Mirror Shades, who's handled the, he speak, cannot deal with the
|
||||
tour, and he was talking about fountain pens. I know that Mirror Shades is into fountain pens,
|
||||
so it was great to hear his review of pens paper ink and so forth. I'd really like to hear more
|
||||
on this subject than from him if he cares to do more. It's classical tech. That's what it is,
|
||||
it's old tech. Yeah, yeah. I think so. I think so. It's becoming more popular. It's quite cool
|
||||
in certain circles now, I think. Interesting, interesting, Dave. I went to
|
||||
Berbugan the other day and had a presentation with the young people when they started going back
|
||||
to mole skins and carrying books and lying stuff down. It's really, really coming back.
|
||||
I know. Must admit, I use a paper agenda, so I'm one of the ones stuck in the past.
|
||||
There's nothing wrong with that though. My kids have both, like I said, in their 20s,
|
||||
but they're both nuts about pens and stationery stuff. My son's fountain pens my daughter,
|
||||
not so much, but yeah, I think fair number of their friends too are into this sort of thing.
|
||||
I think it's just cycles of whatever it is, fashion or something.
|
||||
So we had two comments on this one. One was from Drupes, who has done a show on fountain pens.
|
||||
And he says fountain pens. Awesome. Just a great comment. I commented pretty much as I've already
|
||||
said, great show. We need more on this subject. I enjoyed this show a lot. Thanks for talking
|
||||
about pens, ink and paper. I think we need more shows on these subjects. Maybe they're more
|
||||
there are more enthusiasts in the HPI community you'd like to contribute. So I don't know if that's
|
||||
the case, but it'd be good if there is. So the next one was 2274 from JWP. First Microsoft
|
||||
service surface pro Ubuntu 1604 dual boot. So you recorded this from the car, I think you said,
|
||||
didn't you, JWP? It was good for you. Going up to answer Dan and the so I was in the car for
|
||||
a long time and I just figured out how to do it on the iPhone. But yeah, I'm actually using the
|
||||
mumble now on the very on that very laptop. But now that that's surface with Ubuntu and the mumble.
|
||||
So I'm doing it now. It's happening. I can't remember the last time I booted into Windows with it.
|
||||
So that's amazing. That's really interesting. I certainly heard good things about this device,
|
||||
but I've not been driven to to get one myself. But yeah, you said it was good for watching
|
||||
movies and stuff, which I thought was intriguing. The surface has a great screen. A great screen.
|
||||
I got the idea from that guy Noah at Jupyter Broadcasting. He had done one and so I went and bought
|
||||
the original surface pro and it wasn't an issue at all. I just had to use some UEFI stuff and it
|
||||
booted. It's just like a normal x86 thing. And the pen works and everything works with 1604. No special
|
||||
anything. Very good. Yeah, that's quite impressive. There was one comment from Windergo who said
|
||||
very interesting possibility. I didn't realize that installing any kind of Linux on a surface
|
||||
was a possibility. Whole new category of hardware to repurpose. Thanks for another great episode.
|
||||
And did I hear you say you were recording this with the Bluetooth interface in your car?
|
||||
Yes, on my Apple, yeah. So I pressed the voice memo. I told Siri to go to the voice memo and she said,
|
||||
yeah, and then I started talking through my car speaker and it worked. It sounded really good in
|
||||
the car. It had a little bit of wind sound when I uploaded it and everything. But it worked off
|
||||
the Bluetooth speaker in the car or microphone in the car. I think that's great. I think it really
|
||||
goes to show that you can record episodes just about anywhere. I use a little rock box to record
|
||||
mine, little sands eclipse it. And I had never thought about releasing you Christopher. You've
|
||||
gone off. Yeah, it's interesting that you said rock box. I'd really like to see more rock box
|
||||
stuff, you know, because you can get $6 or $3 or $4 MP3 players now if I Amazon. I really wish
|
||||
someone would manufacture one with rock box on it, you know. I did it right there for $6.
|
||||
Yeah, I really agree with that. I've got a bunch of sands eclipse and
|
||||
eclipse and sands of fuses and stuff which I bought second hand just so I can run rock box
|
||||
on them and keep them going. But a lot of them, more recent devices, nobody's pulled a rock box
|
||||
to it. So that's a great shame. I could do with more of it. I think you're very right.
|
||||
I just got a message from Christopher saying he's got up to me.
|
||||
Actually, mumble talked to me. Yeah, Christopher has got it lost power. So now that reusable
|
||||
battery would really come in. Absolutely. Yeah, what a shame. When we started, he was
|
||||
suffering from a really heavy storm in his part of the world. So maybe that's the consequence of it.
|
||||
From his accent, I think he's from North Carolina or somewhere around there. Not for sure.
|
||||
I forgot to ask him where he's based, but yeah, yeah, it's about your knowledge in that one.
|
||||
He said, he said large. So he, large is something that, large is something that you would do
|
||||
maybe out west. I don't think you do lodges out east, east anywhere. So maybe he's out west
|
||||
somewhere, you know, with a lot at a large. How you can hear it anywhere? Arkansas, he says.
|
||||
Arkansas, Arkansas. Okay. I have lodges in Arkansas, really.
|
||||
Anyway, thanks Christopher for joining us. It's been really cool. So yeah.
|
||||
Anyway, let's press on then show you JWB. We're up to 2275. And this is called
|
||||
entitled Pangukon 2017. It's from Ahuka. And this is Ahuka who is the, who runs the technical
|
||||
track at this conference. And he's talking about the content of the conference and so forth, which
|
||||
is, I think it's just finished. Has it? Or maybe it's ongoing right now?
|
||||
28th of April, I think, was it started? It might still be ongoing at the moment, actually. But,
|
||||
yeah, he, he's been involved in this for a while, but he said this is his last time running the
|
||||
the technical track. So, but it sounds really cool. Cory Dupter was one of the speakers. I heard him say
|
||||
and some amazing and interesting stuff in the lineup.
|
||||
Yeah, it's always good. You know, you know, you know, me, Dave, I'll take off and I'll drive
|
||||
anywhere to get updated on any kind of tech. But the, the, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, who, uh,
|
||||
he really, I mean, he had that labor office series. And now he's technical lead. And one
|
||||
of these conversations, he's really getting out there and doing some stuff. Oh, he is. Yeah, he's
|
||||
Yeah, he's an impressive guy. He's doing a lot of stuff. And yeah, we've thanked him over
|
||||
and over for his live or office series. It's been brilliant. So yeah, yeah.
|
||||
That was good. It was interesting to hear about. And it's one of these things I listened
|
||||
to and think, wow, I'd love to be able to go to something like that. But it was a hooker
|
||||
that really mishaila on wife. So I had, I was on the Bluetooth speaker at the house
|
||||
and he was talking about Libra office. So he went into this really long talk about how
|
||||
to do PowerPoint on Libra office. And we were, you know, we were always trying to find
|
||||
a computer that would run office so she could do like a PowerPoint or an Excel or whatever.
|
||||
Actually, she heard him talk about it. She completely switched right there and downloaded
|
||||
it and we didn't do the Microsoft thing anymore. That's very cool. That's a great story.
|
||||
Sure, he'd be delighted to hear that. Yeah, well done. Okay, let's move on to 2276 tunnels
|
||||
and trolls and dungeon delvas from Cloud 2. And he's again talking about another gamebook
|
||||
series. I can't say it. Tunnels and trolls is, I think he said, is a more accessible alternative
|
||||
to dungeons and dragons. And dungeon delvas is a more simplified version of D&D, but
|
||||
these are gamebook type things that sound very cool. Well, I mean, the first series was
|
||||
about the single player one, right? And I was, you know, being, you know, having been
|
||||
all over the world and the single player one was really interesting. And this was a
|
||||
little harder for me to follow, but I sort of got it. It was sort of like if you didn't
|
||||
want the detail of dungeons and dragons. And you could still sort of play by yourself
|
||||
because it was a book and you could read it and take turns with it. So it seemed it seemed
|
||||
pretty interesting, same pretty interesting. I wish children would play this instead of
|
||||
a playstation. Well, I know it's interesting. You say that. Like I said earlier on, my daughter's
|
||||
in into D&D. She's heading off to Canada next month to help out with some work there.
|
||||
And she was saying to me early, what should I take to read? I need something to sort of
|
||||
entertain myself. I don't know whether something like this would suit her. As you say, it's a good
|
||||
thing to get youngsters into. Yeah, you might want to look on eBay and see if somebody's selling
|
||||
that for a pound or two. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. It's something to be researched, I think.
|
||||
You cut out a little bit a day, but yeah, I don't know if you heard me, but maybe you should,
|
||||
maybe before she goes to Canada, look on eBay and see if you can get her a little game for a pound
|
||||
or so. Yes, yes, indeed. I did get most of that, actually, but we have in a few problems with this
|
||||
with mumble, I wonder. I don't know. Hopefully not. But anyway, let's press on.
|
||||
I mean, you sound crystal clear, buddy. Crystal clear. Like you're right here in my room.
|
||||
You sound very good, actually. Just been one or two little hiccups, but I don't know. I think we're
|
||||
doing good. So let's go on to show 2277, which is from Mirror Shades again, and he's talking about
|
||||
Outernet and other projects. The gist of this is systems or facilities that provide free internet
|
||||
access by alternative methods. He's talking about Project Loom, which is a Google project, which
|
||||
I've heard about, which sounds most intriguing. There's Facebook's internet.org, which is
|
||||
which is coming from some criticism, I believe. I don't know the details. There's Outernet, which I'd
|
||||
never heard of, which sounds most interesting. So it, yes, it's an interesting subject. I'm
|
||||
definitely going to learn more about it. Well, I don't know about the free internet, but
|
||||
there's this company called Endless now, and I looked at some of their PCs, and what they do is
|
||||
they build PCs, and one of the things that they do is sell these cheap little ARM PCs to Texas
|
||||
prisons and Texas. I have a lot of offline content, wiki, pdf, and custom content. So it's
|
||||
sort of an alternate internet, and Endless, they make very, very inexpensive PCs. General Bacon
|
||||
is advising them now. So it's sort of an alternate internet kind of thing. Well, that's again
|
||||
another intriguing idea. Oh wow. Yeah, yeah. I remember there, there's been various comments about
|
||||
this type of thing in the past, but I've not really followed it in great detail, but yeah,
|
||||
I must follow some of these links and see, see if I can learn more about it. Subjects in general.
|
||||
There were two, two comments on this one. Low-tech Morgane commented, Outernet user said,
|
||||
hi, enjoyed your episode. I've had an alternate receiver up and running for a few months now.
|
||||
It's definitely a neat project. My biggest issue is with the $9 chip. It's always locking up or
|
||||
powering off. I'm planning to switch back to the old OS, and a Raspberry Pi for stability.
|
||||
The $9 chips are now impossible to find, so the internet guys are working on their own dedicated
|
||||
hardware that includes the processor, an SDR or on one board. It's currently cold-named
|
||||
Dreamcatcher. I'll transit down to night when I get home and record a compare into your episode
|
||||
and give a full review of my experience with the Outernet. Well, look forward to hearing that.
|
||||
Though the chip, the Outernet devices is built around the chip as I understand it. And Mirror Shades
|
||||
replies to that saying, sounds awesome. And I recorded this. I was hoping someone out there
|
||||
who had more experience with any of these could shed some more light on them for the rest of us.
|
||||
I've been considering getting one of the kits, but I've too much going on right now,
|
||||
looking forward to your episode. So, next was me again, 2278, some supplementary bash tips.
|
||||
I got some fans. You got some fans from the first man. You read the comments, you got fans.
|
||||
I know. I started doing this silly thing where I called these things some then a word,
|
||||
bash tips. And I thought, oh, have something like more or some synonym of more. So I've
|
||||
nearly run out of them. I've got reached supplementary. I really regret doing that, but never mind.
|
||||
Yeah, so more about bash. And this one's about the expanding expansion of path names. So
|
||||
it hopefully was useful to some people. Yeah, going on to the comments then, I had
|
||||
comment from somebody whose side is unverified who said, you rock. I mean, you need to comment
|
||||
somewhere on the site about how great a resource the site is. But if I were nothing,
|
||||
but if it were nothing, but Dave Morris reads the man pages, I'd gladly listen. Your attention
|
||||
to detail and calm mannerism is very pleasant and that it happens that you cover the good stuff.
|
||||
Any nix user needs to get a handle on is just perfect. When there is a lull, I'll go through
|
||||
them all again and again. Thanks for holding up more than your end of the podcast. I'll try to
|
||||
break past the public speaking phobias and help and help with the tags too. Well, thank you very
|
||||
much. That's a wonderful comment. It's I have said in the past, it's just basically me reading
|
||||
the man pages. But the real answer is I'm trying to understand them and pass on what I've tried to
|
||||
understand, which I said more or less in my comment. So I said, thanks. That's a great comment. Thank
|
||||
you. My principal is to find stuff I don't understand or didn't in the past and share what I've
|
||||
learned to help anyone who wants to grasp whatever it is. I've just uploaded part two of this
|
||||
two part, so there's more to come. Smiley face. So not sure if that's a warning or what. I hope you
|
||||
managed to make episodes of your own. For my first one, I wrote notes for HBO, but also made
|
||||
this up a list of the points I wanted to cover and rehearsed the episode before the final recording.
|
||||
Whatever gives you enough competence to do it. So I hope you get some shows from unverified.
|
||||
So next is JWP again. So we're competing on the number of shows we're doing this month, JWP.
|
||||
You know, it was supposed to be the first in November. It was supposed to be the first in November.
|
||||
And I did it. But yeah, can I carry this intel stick with me around everywhere I go now?
|
||||
It lives with me in my backpack. And I mean, they couldn't have made a more awful device with
|
||||
the canonical logo on it. Really, really. It's got eight gigabytes of storage and one gig about a
|
||||
ram. And it's got you a fire on it. And oh, man, it's just been a real pain. But it does
|
||||
this you mix them or you act him. He has all kinds of flavors for these things. And I downloaded
|
||||
the Ubuntu one and now I got it to work. And yeah, I was intrigued that you were talking about
|
||||
Paul's audio and this Paul's audio volume thingy control, pavu control to get it to work. That's
|
||||
that's quite quite useful advice in general, actually, about how to deal with sound issues.
|
||||
And in fact, this very day, I've run this to try and make sure my sound was working for
|
||||
for this recording and found it to be really cool.
|
||||
Paul's audio, that right click on the speaker brings all that stuff up. But if you don't have it,
|
||||
and then you're trying to use a looser mixer thing, then that it doesn't work out so well.
|
||||
And of course, if I do a show and I've got a computer, I got to do a Dacity because that's
|
||||
just the easiest way for me to do it because that's where I learned how to do these things on. So
|
||||
I figured it out. So now it can be a desktop too.
|
||||
That's very cool, actually. Yeah. Yeah. So you've got another show coming up which introduces
|
||||
this device, I guess, is it? And this one was really meant to be a follow-on to the first,
|
||||
and they've now gone in the wrong order. Exactly. But Ken grabbed my, you know, because I really
|
||||
wanted to, you know, I sort of, I didn't see you at the, at Fast Down this year, but I saw Ken
|
||||
and I was like, well, you know, I've got to take 15 minutes for hacker public radio,
|
||||
at least once a month and get this going. It gets, get this going. So I try to do the first
|
||||
Monday of every month, put a show into the queue for the rest of the year and then Ken ran out of
|
||||
the shows and he grabbed my one for November. That's a shame. Anyway, I don't think it's spoiled
|
||||
anything. I'm sure little, it'll be looking forward to hearing more about this,
|
||||
Compute Stick device. So shall we move on to the last show and the last two, two, eight, zero?
|
||||
Yeah, sure, we'll move on. Michelle Elyard just came home from the play.
|
||||
Yeah, you're okay to stay here, then JWP, you're going to move on.
|
||||
No, no, no. She just came home. A precious fluffy came home from the musical and stew guard.
|
||||
So I'm still here. Let's do the last one. Well, the Novo X61, part two. That's a great show,
|
||||
by the way. Yes, this is again, Tony. And this time he's telling us his, the whole process of
|
||||
buying these things and getting, he goes to an auction place where he gets this sort of kit,
|
||||
which I think is very impressive. I don't know if anywhere like that newer I live, but he's doing
|
||||
amazing. I mean, I mean, the key, if you're going to do this, people really, really, it's exactly
|
||||
what he did, right? Go and get an SSD. Just trust me, believe me, go get an SSD and then check
|
||||
the battery and then get on eBay and get a replacement battery and you'll be beautiful with
|
||||
any of these things. Yeah, he just seemed to have really worked it out very well.
|
||||
And got something quite, quite desirable. He says he's using it as his sort of main,
|
||||
main driver after reconfiguring it and so forth. The only thing was he needed to put Linux light
|
||||
on it to get the best out of it, which is interesting. Again, I'd like to, so you put it as an
|
||||
SSD on it, you put an SSD on something that changes everything. Yeah, yeah. I've got EEPC
|
||||
in the cupboard, which I'd really like to, used to run crunch bang on it, but I'd really like
|
||||
to get something else on it and make it, make it usable again. So, yeah, something useful point
|
||||
to see. It's only common with SATA though. You have to have a SATA port in there and your laptop
|
||||
somewhere. So a lot of those older ones, they have a PTA. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not sure,
|
||||
I'll have to go and look at it. It might be too old to get a SATA connector. Yeah, hadn't
|
||||
bought that. But yes, well, whatever, it's good to, that this is a route that you could take if you
|
||||
want a portable lightweight cheap machine. Tony himself commented on this show saying just an update,
|
||||
I needed a replacement non OEM battery for one of the X61s, I have 61s, I have with the total
|
||||
dead, totally dead battery. And it's something you have to factor in when you're buying stuff
|
||||
from auction. Yeah, that's why I said SSD and a new battery. Yeah, so just just go ahead and do it
|
||||
from the very, from the get go and it'll be, it'll be much, much better. And that and you,
|
||||
you can get, for instance, I don't carry a power supply in my backpack anymore. I have one
|
||||
in home and one at work. And that's it. That's it because I bought one on eBay for four
|
||||
euros and put it at the office. Yeah, that's good. That's a great way to do things. Anyway, Tony's
|
||||
saying that he managed to get a, I won't read this in detail because he's basically saying that he's
|
||||
got a replacement battery. And he's saying pretty much what you were saying that it's given
|
||||
new life, new SSD and battery. And it costs him 93 pounds to do all of this. They might be able
|
||||
to get it cheaper. And he's got a very, very functional machines consequence. So that's very
|
||||
cool. I don't know if you've heard of the pine day, the pine 64 laptop, 89 dollar one that's
|
||||
just out there. So I wouldn't, I wouldn't, I would, I would, I would almost want to get Tony
|
||||
a pine 64 and have him compare that old IBM with the pine 64 thing and tell me which is better.
|
||||
Yeah, I know. I know it's, it's interesting what's happening in this sort of area, isn't it?
|
||||
Things are, things are sort of shrinking and being becoming light to weight and everything. So
|
||||
yeah, it's, it's intriguing. Very, very, very much so, very much so. Well, that, that looks like
|
||||
the last episode. So this is my first time doing the news. And I really appreciate Christopher
|
||||
from Arkansas coming on too. And he sounds like he's, he's super, super smart. Yeah, he's done
|
||||
some great shows for us and stuff. I know he's a very knowledgeable guy. We, we do have a few more
|
||||
comments that we need to to look at. You're going to be able to stay around for them. Because
|
||||
what happens is people comment, they commented, go on. I just don't know where they are.
|
||||
Yeah. Okay, I'll tell you in a moment. What we, what we need to do is they've been various
|
||||
extra comments added to shows that were, that were released earlier on in the year. And
|
||||
the comments are added during April. So we need to go and just look through them. You'll find them
|
||||
in the, in the, the notes that I pointed you at there. There's a list of comments this month
|
||||
in the, the show notes for this particular episode. Okay, so I'm at the HBR 2281 community news
|
||||
for April 2017. That's right. Scroll down past the table of shows and you'll see a list of comments.
|
||||
We've dealt with the second block, but we need to just check out the first block. Okay, so it says
|
||||
14 comments on eight previous shows. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. So we had an extra comment on
|
||||
2178, which was called Dice Mixer, and it was Class II himself who replied to 5150,
|
||||
who'd made the comment about Tinhorn. I don't know what the expression Tinhorn
|
||||
come from, that it referred to a gambler, but Class II says, I'd never heard of that one, 5150.
|
||||
I like it. That's for me being a good salesperson. I think no one has ever accused me of that before.
|
||||
We have show 212, Meandering's cyberpunk and the Minidus by Kuvmo.
|
||||
We had a comment from somebody called One F, Anti-Hacker. Thanks the episode. I loved it.
|
||||
I consider, oh, they're talking about a Manufacturer. Yes, they don't remember
|
||||
Minidus, but it was S-Asterisk I was puzzling over. They're talking about the Manufacturer,
|
||||
Initial Letters S. It's hostile towards hackers. So while some of their innovations are interesting,
|
||||
I'm done with anything carrying the S-Asterisk name. I still have a PS3 collecting dust,
|
||||
and that was my final straw. When they take hackers and makers to court, just for trying to do
|
||||
cool and interesting stuff, they show just how anti-maker they are. They have the track record
|
||||
to prove how poor that the user community is. Remember Beta versus VHS? Remember memory stick?
|
||||
Long history of failed cool stuff. Sometimes it's difficult to put these things down. It's
|
||||
so cool. When I'm principal, I put them down now. I don't know if I totally agree with that,
|
||||
because you don't have to understand the last 15 to 17 years Japan went through a depression
|
||||
that was very similar to what America went through in the 40s. So the Japanese companies,
|
||||
really after to protect their IP, and the things are really, really tough in Japan right now.
|
||||
Yeah, I guess so, but it just seems so restrictive. Some of these practices,
|
||||
because I think, what was it, things like the PlayStation that you could run Linux on at one point?
|
||||
That was a good reason. But if you could run Linux on it, that meant that you could get
|
||||
into that PlayStation network. They didn't have any control of view it updated,
|
||||
your Linux image or not, and then they could get sued because you were on their PlayStation
|
||||
network with a hacked Linux box. But weren't people buying them by the hundreds in order?
|
||||
Was this the device that you could then network and make a really powerful cluster?
|
||||
Was that the PlayStation? Yeah, exactly. And the universe is being this.
|
||||
Well, exactly. My son, we sold his, the guy in Greece bought his, and the guy was like,
|
||||
has it ever been connected to the internet? And we said we didn't know,
|
||||
and the guy was like needed for desktop. So he needed a 20-Euro desktop. And it had been
|
||||
connected to the internet, so it didn't work out for him. And we gave him his money back,
|
||||
and I didn't keep the device. But people use ones that have not been connected to the internet
|
||||
for desktops down and developing places. Yeah, yeah. Anyway, we'll leave that, I think.
|
||||
Skip on to the next one. So the next was 2, 2, 3, 6, which was
|
||||
the easy show on hoarding Raspberry Pi, so he was talking about what he was doing with a bunch
|
||||
of Raspberry Pi, he had. And there was some humor around the fact that the speech synthesizer
|
||||
pronounced P-I-S, the plural of Pi, as piss. So I said, I mean, he's got an addiction that everybody,
|
||||
quite a few of us had. It's, I'd have added an apostrophe, I said, to the plural of Pi, but it's
|
||||
generally thought to be wrong, even though he then pronounced in the non-urinary way, I've seen
|
||||
someone suggest it'd be Raspberry's Pi, but that seems silly. Mike Ray comes back and says,
|
||||
the apostrophe is definitely wrong, but as a screen reader user, this is the thing I struggle
|
||||
with constantly writing pages and blog posts. Writing P-I-S definitely gives the pronunciation
|
||||
that is undesirable. Maybe it would have been easier if Evan Upton hadn't made the mistake
|
||||
of calling it a Pi, P-I instead of a P-Y. The Pi part was supposed to be short for Pi,
|
||||
but hard to believe he got it wrong. That's interesting, yes, yes. Anyway, I think that,
|
||||
it's good, that comment thread is pretty, pretty much dead now. Then we have 2249, which was
|
||||
new year episode three, and there was comment three from God Dummy, who Variety writes his name
|
||||
with four or three Ds in it. New episode title, Conspiracy Gate, it's just commenting that this
|
||||
show was something else. I didn't realise there were so many conspiracy wanks in the group.
|
||||
Regarding the 100% figure on Scotland voting to remain, I think it was, he was referring to
|
||||
100% of the areas, not actual voters. I assume Ken's quote with all 32 council areas remain,
|
||||
confirms that. Frank comments, Windows actually supports the always on top function. It just has
|
||||
no gooey means of activating it, but some programs use it most prominently media players.
|
||||
There are third party tools that make it available globally, such as Activate, written by the
|
||||
staff of the German Computer Magazine, C-Hitent T, C-Postive T. A quick installation guide,
|
||||
English installation guide is at, and there's a URL. Activate also brings other Linux goodies,
|
||||
such as Dragon Window with Alt plus LMB. So this was a lot of discussion about all manner of things
|
||||
on this particular show, and these are a couple of things that have been picked out.
|
||||
It seems like a long time ago. Yes, definitely. So we have 2253, how to make and use a stencil
|
||||
by Ainabina. We pronounce that right. Yeah, not German speaking. I think so, I think so.
|
||||
Yep. Hold on, I'm just finding the comment nine. So this was her first show,
|
||||
which, no, I'm lost myself here. Yeah, Michael says, thank you, nice episode of Bina,
|
||||
and congratulations to your first HBR contribution, and she replies at all. Thank you all for your
|
||||
comments. This is really encouraging. And RTSN says, good show. I just want to say, I really enjoyed
|
||||
this episode. We'll try to make my own someday. Good episode, and I hope to hear more from you
|
||||
in the future, which I echo. I thought it was a great first show. She obviously got a lot of
|
||||
interesting things to say. I thought it was a really good show. It was just one of the first ones
|
||||
that I got after getting my iPhone and starting to listen to the shows again.
|
||||
Yeah, it just goes to show that HBR is good for all manner of stuff,
|
||||
you know, making a stencil. What's they got to do with hackers? Wow, you know, it does. It
|
||||
depends on your definition, but certainly of great interest, I think.
|
||||
Well, I really think with the show, Dave, that in the last three or four years, especially with
|
||||
the PI, that it's really turned into a maker's kind of thing. So if it doesn't matter, if you,
|
||||
you know, like the, it doesn't matter. So any kind of tech maker or philanthropy kind of thing,
|
||||
libraries, charitable things, you get all kinds of things. I don't know if you remember, I did
|
||||
one on the founders of PayPal also do a charitable thing where you can donate to like small businesses
|
||||
and an India or someplace and they'll just own your $5 loan for seven years.
|
||||
I don't remember that. So it's really interesting. I did a show about that, I don't
|
||||
three or four years ago, maybe. But it's interesting. I think that it's really taken off because,
|
||||
mostly because of what that's gone on in the PI because it's really turned the world into a maker
|
||||
kind of thing. So stencil is a maker thing that you would, that goes right along with, you know,
|
||||
whatever you would do with the PI, same mindset, same thing with the fishing thing, you know, it's
|
||||
sort of a maker kind of thing. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I love about HBR personally. I
|
||||
don't think there should be any thought of restricting what comes out, whatever you feel is proper.
|
||||
Yeah. That's why I say it's sort of a maker community. We were making, it's on the Raspberry
|
||||
PI sort of thing, sort of mindset to make, we always make something. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah.
|
||||
Yeah. That's good. So we're nearly at the end of this block 2254, which was an introduction
|
||||
to model rocketry by Steve Sainer. We read one of these comments last time because we last
|
||||
recorded on the April 1st. So let's move on to comment two. Comment two was from Rowan. Are the
|
||||
memories? Hi, I was thinking about your show last night and the memories of building model rockets
|
||||
as a kid. There was a hobby shop near my home and at one point it had a row of model rockets,
|
||||
motors, starter kits, etc. One of the most exciting times building a two-stage rocket that
|
||||
used either COD motors. I remember the thrill of watching the two stages go off and then chasing it
|
||||
across the fields as the wind caught the parachute, honest return to earth. Thanks for a great
|
||||
episode. That's great. That's a nice idea. That's a really nice memory. It was a cool show too.
|
||||
And I think that that show was probably the best of it. It may be, it's a long time to the end of
|
||||
the year, but I'm willing to bet when we do the yearly review that that's going to be a top three
|
||||
show. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a gem, a real gem. Do you want to do any of these comments?
|
||||
J.W.P. I've been sort of hooking them. You want to step in and do any of your very welcome?
|
||||
Sure. Hold on just a second. Just a second. Let me go back to the main screen. So it's
|
||||
so after Rowan commented, there was a one called N-S-N-S-T-R, and he did an exclamation point.
|
||||
And then he said, thanks for a wonderful show on a subject I had no idea could be so interesting.
|
||||
I hope to hear more of this. Keep it up.
|
||||
Cool. Yeah, absolutely. I think we all agree with that.
|
||||
I'm hoping between tabs here. So the next one was 2255, which was me.
|
||||
Me too. Me too. Hold on. Hold on. I'm using the pen. So it's just a little slower from here on the
|
||||
surface. So it's a little bit. Yeah, yeah. We're talking here about 2555, The Goodship HPR,
|
||||
which was my show, and there was a seventh comment added to it.
|
||||
Scroll. So the seventh comment was from Dodd dummy.
|
||||
From Dodd dummy. He said, and he said Dodd, it's a D-O-D dummy, not Dodd dummy. It's the D-D department.
|
||||
He's a Department of Defense dummy. That's what he is, the D-O-D dummy, Department of Defense.
|
||||
So I'm thinking the episode should be, I'm thinking this episode should be something like
|
||||
sticking notes that forms keep at the top for reference. Yeah, so I'm thinking that he listens
|
||||
to that in some military office somewhere in the world. He listens to hacker, public radio somewhere.
|
||||
The fact that his last name is Dodd. It could be a clue, but I may be wrong. I may be wrong.
|
||||
It's a good thought though. It's a good thought though. So the last one was 2259 mini-discs,
|
||||
a response to HBR2212 from John Culp. We're looking here at comment four, and comment four was
|
||||
from Kuvmo. I think did the first episode. You said mini-disc, John, great episode. Perhaps we
|
||||
can get the powers to be, link what? These are series, oh yeah, yeah, okay. He's asking if we can
|
||||
link these as a series to entice others to produce more. As I failed like, we all
|
||||
mechanic, I love the truck episodes. He's saying to John who he does. I have a mini-disc too,
|
||||
so I can do a mini-disc show maybe. So maybe there'll be a third mini-disc thing we can do a series.
|
||||
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that would be cool. It's a fascinating subject. There's a great devices,
|
||||
I think. So yeah, very good. But remember Sony did it, and that guy didn't love the guy didn't like
|
||||
Sony, but I really love that particular dignity. Yeah, yeah, okay, fair enough. So we traditionally
|
||||
zoom through the mail to the mailing list at this stage in the game. So we can do that fairly
|
||||
quickly, I think. Let me find the tab. So the mailing list is linked off the notes. It's actually
|
||||
before the comments, sorry, I took my finger off my press to talk there. And we had a series on
|
||||
HPR promos, thread on HPR promos where Ken said, hi all in today's community news, there was a
|
||||
discussion on getting more hosts to the network. And there's a need for new promos. I'll zoom
|
||||
for these very quickly. He's asking if anybody can help prepare an HPR promotional video,
|
||||
this is HPR. And we got a reply from troops who said, I'm game to help. And then he followed up
|
||||
while later with a long message where he says, here's a suggested script for such a thing. He's
|
||||
suggesting that if we made a video with different people telling one story with each person only
|
||||
saying one of the sentences. And he's he's got a list of things. It's a great idea actually. I'm
|
||||
not quite sure how that would work because everybody then needs to have some sort of video
|
||||
capability, don't they? But being being old and stuck in my ways, it doesn't immediately appeal to
|
||||
me, but I'm sure others will see it very differently. And there was a comment which seemed to be a
|
||||
little bit out of sequence. David Teeth was asking about a podcast that ended with guided hack
|
||||
and meditations, which doesn't ring any bells. Yeah, I saw that. I didn't get that. I didn't get
|
||||
what that was really. I saw it. I didn't get what it was. No, no. Hopefully we'll come back and
|
||||
explain what he was asking. And we had a comment. I hope so. We had a comment from an email from
|
||||
Kuvmo in this thread where he says about this business for doing a show. I love this idea.
|
||||
We'll be willing to submit something. And he says on a related note, I noticed one of my fellow victims
|
||||
on the tank game BZ flag had his motto set to his devin art site and made me look. I immediately
|
||||
set my motto to hyperbubbicradio.org. I hope to drive some views, which is an interesting idea,
|
||||
just sort of, you know, wear an HBRT shirt or a badge or something or those sorts of things
|
||||
is a way of getting the word out, I guess. I think I think one of the things in relation to that,
|
||||
I think that that Ken that somehow either either we ought to do a crowdfunding for Ken so that
|
||||
he can go to an event one time and not have to have a microphone in front of him in front of him
|
||||
and just be the hacker public radio guy. I talk to people about it. I talk to people about
|
||||
hacker public radio and stuff instead of always recording and stuff that he could sort of be
|
||||
the hacker public radio ambassador. Well, there's a lot to be said for that. I mean, we have done that
|
||||
to some extent to Alcamp, you know, where we set up a table. As you know, I feather this year.
|
||||
Actually, I have to get my ticket and see if I can still get a ticket to get in and I don't know
|
||||
if you can still get into Alcamp or not. I know that it's happening, but I'm a little late on all
|
||||
preparations for it. I would imagine it was still open and they don't tend to sell out that quickly,
|
||||
but yeah, it's too far for me to get too early. It's a big hassle of a place to get too from
|
||||
Scotland, so I'm not going to go. I'm afraid. But yeah, it would be nice. That's two events on a
|
||||
row, Dave, that you missed. That you missed, man. One thing I have to do this, how hard is it, Dave?
|
||||
I'm going to date myself here, man, but back in the 80s, I opened up a thing in a bank called
|
||||
NatWest, and how hard is it to go and get your money back that's closed your account with them?
|
||||
I haven't been there since the 80s. I'm not sure what the status of NatWest is. I think it's been
|
||||
bought out by somebody else. I'm sure you could find out if you did a search for it, but it's
|
||||
probably been gone out by another bank and you still have... Well, I think the credentials you could
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do. I think it's in Kent as close to Peterborough, and I opened the account in Peterborough,
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so I can go on the high street in Peterborough, go back to where the bank was, and I'm sure it'll
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probably work out. Well, good luck, because all the banks run, do I live, they're all closing,
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because you know, who wants bank branches anymore when there's the internet? So...
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Anyway. Okay, anyway. So... Should we just hop through these fairly quickly? We've got...
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Yes, please. I can't see them, though. Are they at the very bottom of the screen?
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They're very bottom of the notes, sir. If you look in the 2281, there's a link
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under the heading mailing list discussions, and it's just after the table of shows,
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and it takes you to Mailman on the Hack-A-Public Radio site.
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ackabilityreaders.org-pipermail, etc, etc.
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Okay, I'm down at the bottom, where it says RSS feed, just grab to the comments and the RSS
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because I need to go back up. You need to be still further down.
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No, you need to be further down.
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Now, after the table of shows, right near the top.
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Okay, let me go back up to the top. It's not in chronological order, I'm afraid.
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Well, you're looking, I'll just mention that the next thread is about the amateur round table,
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second try, and Michael, who's merely in Germany, I think, is trying to organize
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setting everything up for another one of these round table talks. I won't read these out,
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because really they're quite long. We have a reply from Steve Sayner, who is keen to do this as well,
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but it seems to have stalled a bit. April the 4th was this message, so hopefully I didn't say
|
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any since I started to subscribe me to the mailing list. So I'm up at the very top and I'm
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with the header now and I'm at 2281 Community News for April 27th, so where do I look with my pen?
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Scroll down to mailing list discussions underneath that table. You'll see there's a link at the end
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of those paragraphs just before comments this month. That takes you to the mail. I see it now.
|
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I see it now. I see it now. So I click on the mail, man. Just click on that link there and it'll take
|
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you to the threaded discussions for the link right at the bottom. The one that says HTTP
|
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hackabobbyreader.org slash PiperMail. So it says HPR archives when I clicked on it,
|
||||
and I've got a bunch of HPR archives starting back at April 2017, so I would get the,
|
||||
just click on the thread thing. Yep. Yep. I'm just walking through the message threads here. That's
|
||||
all I'm doing. I think we can zoom through this pretty quickly. Okay. Yeah. So it's amateur
|
||||
around table, how to proceed, and then the second try. And then HPR Penguin series by Kevin O'Brien
|
||||
is next. Yep. Kevin O'Brien says, can we have a series for PenguinCon? He has done the loads of
|
||||
shows on this subject, and the answer was yes indeed, and it was created. Then we had the next
|
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community news stuff, and basically I was asking if anybody would be prepared to help. And a bunch of
|
||||
people commented, including yourself, JWP, and Christopher did, and we had problems with
|
||||
later on with the fact that the mumble server that I put in these messages has apparently gone
|
||||
away, temporarily, but maybe permanently. So we're actually using honky magu's mumble server today.
|
||||
She kindly mentioned and let us access, and it's been fine. Everything's been going well. So
|
||||
anyway, I'll, you can read it please. There's not much to be doing. It's great, great.
|
||||
Okay. So I think we'll just come to the end, I guess now. I think we've done it. Yep. Yep.
|
||||
We'll call it quits. Okay. So with the mumble, I just have to press stop, right? And then it stops,
|
||||
and it'll tell me to save it, and then my dropbox and get it, right? That's it. That's it. You don't
|
||||
need to send it to me. I will just ask for it if I need it. So if you can just stop it and make
|
||||
sure you have a copy of it somewhere available if I need it, then that would be fantastic. So
|
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thanks. Thank you. Stop it. Hey, no problem, man. Thank you. If you're not talking with you, bye-bye.
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