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Episode: 2503
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Title: HPR2503: My journey into podcasting
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Source: https://hub.hackerpublicradio.org/ccdn.php?filename=/eps/hpr2503/hpr2503.mp3
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Transcribed: 2025-10-19 04:16:50
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This is HPR Episode 2,503 entitled, My Journey Into Podcasting.
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It is hosted by Ella Weber and is about 14 minutes long, and Karima Clean Flag.
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The summer is, may take us on this journey into 10 years of podcasting.
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This episode of HPR is brought to you by archive.org.
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Support universal access to all knowledge, by heading over to archive.org, forward slash donate.
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Hi there and welcome to yet another exciting episode of Hacker Public Radio.
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My name is Dave, otherwise known as the Love Bug, and on this show I want to give you a
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journey, or to even take you on a journey of how I got into podcasting.
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So a bit of background, audio production has always been an interest of mine.
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My late grandfather on my father's side was an audio file.
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My dad, interesting factoid, my dad used to run an audio visual studio in Woking here
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in the UK.
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Actually, the studio where these spice girls were formed, and my dad actually got mentioned
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in a couple of their autobiographies.
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He now runs his own audio visual consultancy business, and also my cousin runs an audio
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visual consultancy business.
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So there's a definite family history in there.
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I also dabble briefly with hospital radio, but more as a technician rather than a presenter
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in the late 1980s.
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And I was both technician and presenter on college radio in the early 1990s, where I hosted
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a show called, please don't laugh, the Barry Manelow fan club on Friday lunchtime.
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Yes, I am a huge fan of Barry Manelow.
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He's given me a lot of inspiration as a musician, but no, I didn't play any Barry on the college
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radio show.
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I've also had a few people say that I have a good radio voice.
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Others have said I have a good radio face, but I don't like those people anymore.
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So the catalyst of me starting podcasting occurred in 2007.
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I discovered podcasting through a couple of friends who had their own podcasts.
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One was the random three, which was a personal musical journey where Mark, the host, would
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play three seemingly random pieces of music from his own collection.
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And as a result, it wasn't pod safe.
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And then explain the reasons why he chose them.
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Most of the times, these seemingly random tracks actually had a theme, but it didn't necessarily
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become apparent until after the second track.
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It was a great show, now sadly defunct, but I really miss it, and it's a real shame
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it's not around anymore.
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I even submitted some of my own music choices for Mark to present.
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The other podcast that got me interested in podcasting was Dumb Down Life, which started
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off as three chaps, just basically nettering about stuff, stuff that was kind of important
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to them, and playing some music as well along with it.
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Again, another great show, which although it does still exist, currently releases shows
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every year or so.
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And what drew me to the shows, apart from being friends of mine, was the fact that these
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were not professionals, they were just regular guys.
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And that led me to think that maybe I could do this.
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So I said to proving, mostly to myself, that I could.
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So one Thursday in early March 2008, when the wife had gone to the gym for a couple of
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hours, I grabbed my trusty Logitech headset, my Linux laptop, a handful of tracks from
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the PodSafe Music Network, which is no more, and a piece of software, which you may have
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heard of, called IDJC, and I recorded the first ever episode of the Bugcast.
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It was just over 22 minutes long, and quite frankly, it was dire, absolutely dire.
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Every so often I go back to it and listen, and cringe, and marvel at how much better
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the show is now.
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I would recommend, and well, would I recommend it?
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I'd recommend you don't, near a bit of a reverse psychology.
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I recommend you don't go back and listen to the first episode of the Bugcast.
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They'll be linking the show notes, but you can get there at the Bugcast.org-show-one.
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The music, when I first started, wasn't exactly PodSafe.
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The first track I played was Sing It Back by Maloko, but I didn't really worry about
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the legality of playing music, because I had picked up the track from a source that had
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given implicit permission for Podcast to play the music, the PodSafe music and work.
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I did a show, Episode 20, which was a nostalgic, I can't speak today, tripped back to my
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college years, where I played tracks by Chad Jackson, Japan, and the Dream Warriors.
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Now this was a complete and intentional violation of copyright on my part, which admittedly
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led me to pull the show only a few weeks later.
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I did re-release the show, approximately two years after that, but with the offending
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tracks removed.
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But there is a backstory to the show, which is why I wanted to get it back into the
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feed.
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So, yeah, by all means go and listen to that.
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There's not, I think there might be one piece of music in it, but the copyrighted music
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has been pulled out of the show, and that's on Episode 20.
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The back of any was just me, and a small disnabase of friends, their family, their family servants,
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their family servants, tennis partners, and some chap I bumped into the mess the other
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day called Bernard.
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But as time went on and I got more experience, I was really enjoying what I was doing and
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I started to experiment.
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One thing I did discover by about Episode 16 is that I wasn't editing my shows after
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they were recorded, aside from topping and tailing the silence.
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This made it so much easier as I was recording the shows as live from the very beginning.
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Up to that point, I was taking out the gaps in the middle, gaps, hums, ars, burps, farts,
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all the rest of it.
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But when I discovered that I wasn't doing that anymore, I wasn't needing to do that
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anymore.
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There really was only one place to go.
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So in August of 2008, on Episode 24, to an audience of about 10 people, I streamed the
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first live episode of The Bugcast.
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That was a buzz.
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It was so, so nerve-wracking.
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But it was a major turning point in the show as I'd committed myself to do a regular show
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at a set time each week, turning what started off as a fun hobby into something a little
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step beyond amateur.
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There were a couple of non-live shows I had to put together using the WIFES Windows
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machine when my laptop went bang and how to go off and be repaired.
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But I really didn't like that method of production because I don't like the whole piecemeal
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sticky tape method of producing a show where you do all your recorded bits and then put
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the music between it or rest of it.
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There's no flow and the spoken bits between the music sounded very much like I was about
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to be fired from Radio 4.
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In late September of 2008, I was accepted as a member of the Now Defunct Association
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of Music Podcasting.
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Now this is another huge step for me.
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All members of the association were peer-reviewed as part of the criteria for membership.
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And this meant that my podcast was deemed as sufficiently good to be accepted and that
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meant the world to me.
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It really did.
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And I suppose it was that that made me take things so much more seriously.
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And in fact, that was the reason why I pulled episode 20 just prior to being accepted
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into the association because they wouldn't have accepted me as a member if I had copyrighted
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music in my show.
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But it's also meant that the show was becoming a lot more music oriented, was something
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I really didn't have a problem with, to be honest, particularly as I was starting
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to strike up some good relationships with some of the artist I was featuring on the show.
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This led me to a pre-recording interview with one of the bands in January of 2009 and
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then again with another artist in March of the same year.
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Now having then registered a proper domain for the podcast rather than picking back in
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my own personal domain and then celebrated the first anniversary of the show, you could
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say that the show was fueling its own progression.
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And up to that point, I was enjoying the journey immensely.
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Then over the next six months, I joined the Made in the UK show collective, interviewed
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an artist live on the show and had the show syndicated on an internet radio station in
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the UK and also launched a chatroom for the website so that people could come and join
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us when we were sorry, when I was recording live.
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And then in September of 2009, which was around about the 18 month anniversary, you can't
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have a month anniversary, can you, but you know what I mean.
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And two days before my birthday, in fact, something happened which turned the show upside
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down.
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I had decided that I wanted to improve the show.
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Bearing in mind by this point, 18 months in, I was still using my trusty Logitech headset
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in my Linux laptop, piece of software called IDJC, I felt it was time for a change.
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So I invested some of my own money into buying a new mixer, some microphones, stands, cables
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and such like, I did say microphones plural.
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Up to this point, my wife Caroline had progressed from occasional listener to regular distraction
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and I probably don't think it's appropriate for me to tell you how she was distracting
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me what I was recording.
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And then to researcher, so I asked her a question.
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I said to her, if I bought two microphones, rather than just one, would you join the show
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as a permanent co-host?
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She said yes.
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And that really changed things.
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The dynamic of me talking to an imaginary audience bar, the activity that was in the chatroom,
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judging to me bouncing off someone in the same room was utterly electric.
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The show was completely transformed by what was a fairly simple change.
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Our listener figures jumped up, the music on the show was more varied, existing listeners
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enjoyed the show more.
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It was absolutely amazing.
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Since that happened, there have been occasions where Caroline hasn't been able to join
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the show because of illness or the kids playing up or whatever.
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And both the listeners and myself have really, really noticed our absence.
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Now since then, we've made a number of small changes to the site, which we believe have
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improved, I suppose, both the technical workflow and also the experience for the end listener.
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We launched Nogfeed rather than just MP3.
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And at the point of recording this, the Ogredown loads comprise approximately 20% of the
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downloads we currently get from the site.
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So that's not insignificant.
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At one point, we were syndicating to four internet radio stations around the world.
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Unfortunately, some of those, if at most of them have folded now, so we're not currently
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getting syndication to other radio stations that I'm aware of, we started contributing music
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to the CCHITS project, John Spriggs project for Creative Commons Music.
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As of quite some time, in fact, we have been one of the most major contributors to CCHITS.
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So if you're listening to any of the CCHITS regular shows daily, weekly or monthly, the
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chances are you're listening to music that we have contributed to it, which we're quite
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and I think justifiably proud of.
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We're also incredibly proud of the fact that in 2013, we won the European Podcast Award
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for UK personality, which was no small feat.
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It was a peer reviewed and peer voted, and the winners were decided as a result of a voting
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panel.
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So, to be honest with you, that was one of our highest points of the podcast.
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And the reason I'm doing this show now, and hopefully, if I hurry up, get my finger
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on my backside, this will be HPR episode 2.503, which will be exactly to the day 10 years
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since I started podcasting and having produced over 500 regular episodes of the Budcast.
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So there it is.
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That is a potted history of how I got into podcasting.
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But my podcasting career, if you like, is more than just the Budcast.
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The Budcast is still my primary podcast.
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We still do it weekly.
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We still stream it live.
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But beyond that, I'm also a contributor to the CCJAM community podcast, which is a short
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form community podcast, which focuses on just on music.
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I'm one of the hosts of TuxJAM, Linux News with Creative Commons Music.
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I'm one of the co-hosts of the Duffercast, which some of you may be familiar with, and
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probably wondering where the hell we've gone, or we are still here.
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We have at least one episode waiting to be published, but we will be back soon, I promise
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you that.
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I'm an irregular contributor to Hacker Public Radio, as you probably already know.
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But I've also just become the producer of the Admin Admin podcast, which is my first
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producer only gig.
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I'm enjoying it immensely.
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There are a couple of other podcasts that I have contributed to in the past there, currently
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on hiatus.
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I'm not going to mention those at the moment.
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So there it is, I am always happy to answer any questions or provide any help with regard
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to podcasting.
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You can find various ways that you can contact me over at my contact page, which is the
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lovebug.org slash contact.
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So thank you very much indeed for listening, and join us again tomorrow for another exciting
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episode of Hacker Public Radio, tada!
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You've been listening to Hacker Public Radio at Hacker Public Radio dot org.
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