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Episode: 2671
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Title: HPR2671: Algae farming with Desearcher
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Source: https://hub.hackerpublicradio.org/ccdn.php?filename=/eps/hpr2671/hpr2671.mp3
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Transcribed: 2025-10-19 07:18:08
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This is HPR Episode 2671 entitled Algae Farming with Desserture.
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It is hosted by Mira Shades and is about 40 minutes long and can in the next visit flag.
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The summary is, Desserture review markets are all on the benefits of Algae Farming.
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Hello world, I'm Mira Shades and today I've traveled 100 miles below the surface of the earth to the secret layer of Desserture.
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And we're going to talk about weird stuff.
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I'm guessing we're going to talk about the weird green fluids growing by your window.
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And then I got to be more specific about weird green fluids.
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A lot of this is nanopropsis, an ocean.
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It's kind of like a some called pomsome, but it's actually no help to ocean your greens sometimes.
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That's pretty as proper as to it.
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They use it to extract carbon dioxide from the air.
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It's a plant, you know, put us inside this.
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It's a green cord and all that.
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But you can actually grow it for fishing.
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And it seems to grow.
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You use F2 fertilizer.
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That's just what it's called.
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It's something of these weird grow that kind of raises questions of walls in it.
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One of this stuff is kind of balanced just for algae.
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They didn't use it for 60-something years through colleges and stuff.
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And you kind of research talking about algae.
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It's going to talk about that too.
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You can get it to like fish supply stores, Amazon.
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This particular one is the Fritz Prue aquatics two-part solution.
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They keep the organic and non-organic compounds separate.
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But mix it up, be cutin' in, and stir it up.
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Throw some starter in, and bubble some hair through.
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So how does the F2 cost?
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Like, what does that run you for?
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I can't remember 20 bucks, but the amount that you use is still minuscule.
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That will last a year if not more.
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Because, let's see, these are checking the size.
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16 fluid ounces per part of 32 ounces.
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And the amount that you feed them is going to be a quarter milliliter per feeding.
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And it's like once a week.
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So, you've guessed the time.
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I just use like sorenches.
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You pick up that tractor supply, kind of pouring shelves.
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And you just, maybe you're out with the tarned dibs.
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The way I do it, I have the soda bottles, two liter soda bottles.
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I'll rinse them out, make sure they're clean.
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I actually went with the thought that they could generate ozone, they could sterilize it.
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And then when I'm ready to split the culture, I'll take my starter.
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Originally, I got like a 12 ounce starter from another distributor.
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And, you know, it's real dark green.
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And then what you do is you put it into two different batches.
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You split half and half, and then you add salt and water, saving.
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And add a little bit of F2, leave it in sunlight, and bubble air into it.
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And then it'll darken over a quarter to about a week.
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So in my two liters, it starts out, you know, kind of lower towards the bottom.
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And then I'll double the amounts in there.
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I just add more water, and you can start with your, you know, double it in.
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So after about two or three doubles, it's full two liter.
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And then I'll split it off into another one.
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So when it's half and half.
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And you can do that, and I've got five going right now.
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They're, let's see, two ohms, mostly full, and I've got other stems.
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The thought is, instead of doubling them up, adding more water, I'm just going to go for a darker color.
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So that when I do split it later on, it'll have more culture to kind of start off strong.
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So, like, to get started like this, what do you take the initial investment cost is?
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It says like 20, about 20 bucks.
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Yeah, kindergarten dollars for the fertilizer.
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And that's going to last you a long time.
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Stoda bottles, something else.
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Yeah, we drink soda and anything.
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We'll just bring some out real good.
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A mixture of university or anything.
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Probably the clear ones.
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You don't want to go for like green, or actually green might work because it'll block out the green line.
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Which they'll be in.
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And what's green line?
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Why doesn't green?
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You do me an air bubbler, which you go down to, you know,
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shopping center, that sells like pets supplies.
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If they sell a great and stuff, they're going to have essentially aerotoms out of just a lumball of green fish tanks.
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And you just get one of those.
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You get the, the tubing that goes with it.
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I think 25, but a two with like maybe eight dollars.
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And honestly, I'll probably use it only.
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Maybe eight foot of that.
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So I'll go back up to, you know, to get two very others.
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Change up to new ones, new problem.
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I do have a splitter attached with the valves on it so I can, you know,
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select which one gets more or less bubbles as it needs.
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Forget how much that was.
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But I mean, none of this is super expensive.
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Then just be back soft.
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To ballpark, maybe 50 bucks or something.
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Ballpark, I'm going to say.
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Reddit.
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Between 40 and 50.
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Shock around, check online.
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A lot of this came from, you know, Amazon.
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And other parts that we've found in this TV are like either Walmart or there's a fish shop
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that I'm actually having.
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Some of the parts you'll achieve.
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But what you want to do is get a tube that will fit to the bottom of the tube later.
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And so that's about foot to foot.
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Somewhere into there.
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Catch a tube section for that.
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Make sure it hits the bottom.
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You don't have to put an air stone or anything.
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You're looking for a bunch of orange bubbles.
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Small bubbles will stir it up a few more days.
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They don't seem to like that.
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And then you want to put cotton or some kind of, some kind of water.
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So additional air doesn't get in.
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You don't get any dust particles going into the solution.
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Yeah.
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So people will drill out holes in the cap that normally goes with it.
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And they'll feed it through there and they'll do a sealant with it.
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That's fine.
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I've never needed that.
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I do like the convenience of just being able to take the top off conveniently with just a bit of water.
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And then you're going to have to do something because once a week I think feed them just with a syringe.
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And every once in a while, certain ones, they'll start to separate out.
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They'll start turning clear and they'll give you some particles on the bottom.
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Those you just shake up and give it a bit more sunlight.
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It usually happens right after feeding.
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They'll kind of shock them when you first feed them.
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You have to make sure you're not just putting it right in one spot and not shaking up.
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It's actually been to put it in a separate container and kind of dilute it and add it.
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So if you're splitting them, you want to actually put the fertilizer in the secondary batch before you add the algae to it.
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But yeah, as long as you've got the tubes going in and bubbling through, you're looking at about three bubbles a second.
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You can do more or less, just kind of play with it.
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You don't want to throw off onto it.
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Just as long as you're getting the CO2 bubbling through, just air or fertilizer.
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Like once a week and plenty of sunlight, they just do well.
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They throw it.
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They want the fertilizer to get clear.
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Why would somebody want to do so?
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What is your purpose?
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It's not just like some homemade science experiment.
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Well, I mean, largely, I do like it as a science experiment.
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So people have house plants.
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I just have a beautiful green, yellow algae.
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It's kind of peaceful to sit out here and eat my breakfast syrup instead of watching.
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Ask them how their day is.
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But no, there actually is a commercial use for it.
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Mainly, you can sell them back to fish stores because algae is essentially fish food.
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And depending on what kind of things they have, like if I specifically run for salt water tanks,
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so this, being vital pointed, is used to be co-pods which are zooplanted.
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And those in turn are used to be corals.
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So by having a constant supply of vital pointed to be co-pods,
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you can grow corals which are actually notoriously hard to grow,
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which means that they're pretty expensive, which is good business.
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As long as they get the food stock coming in, they don't grow corals and split it.
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And some of these go for $1,000.
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Between $50,000 and $1,000, depending on the type and variety.
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But some people just do that as their source makeup.
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They just grow coral.
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I'm going to have to start growing coral.
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I'm not going to let that for you.
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I'm just going to do something right here.
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Dead job, crap.
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Yeah, I'm taking fire if I could go on.
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Because you know, I started out on the cousin.
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He's got a salt water aquarium.
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So I'm just going to kill him.
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And he's selling the excess to the fish one.
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Like part of the problem is here and there.
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And we're going to start growing co-pods here in a couple weeks.
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in a couple of weeks, and then you know that's trying to add its own thing.
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They're grown very much the same way, but you have to monitor different types of bacteria
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because they need good bacteria from an actual aquarium.
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So that process, from my perspective, you take rocks that you put in the aquarium,
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you know, fish around. Over time, the rocks will just kind of soak up all the bacteria.
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And you put those into co-pods, and it can create a more balanced ecosystem.
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Both the algae, you start sterile, and then you split, you know,
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starter-faxive algae in there, and then they grow, and you keep splitting and doubling them.
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So that's more what I wanted, because as long as you don't have cross-candidation,
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it's just a beautiful green, you know.
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Also, the filter's the air.
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It looks a bit like Mountain Dew.
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Yeah.
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It's flat Mountain Dew.
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Except for over there, is that one's a little darker or darker?
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Yeah, that one's been grown much longer.
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That's the color you actually want. It's like that nice, dark hue to it.
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The rest, they're pretty healthy, but they have been growing as long.
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So they start out, you know, kind of like a lighter color.
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Almost, how do you describe it?
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Almost like a seven-hot, little darker.
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We're out.
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Yeah, about like Mountain Dew, and then it's darkened until I get out.
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Almost like a caramelized wool gatorade.
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It's used so-for-refences because of the end.
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There is several of them.
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Yeah.
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And also, it tastes like it, and because you can fact, you're gonna get one.
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It's actually fairly nutritious.
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The prominent researchers help the time.
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Yeah.
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So it's in the southern realm.
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No, it's actual good stuff.
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It's non-toxic.
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It's about like a key, you know, blue jet, which is like fermented tea.
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It's about like that.
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It's not bad.
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I do run the same content a bit high.
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You're looking at a specific gravity of about 120 or 1.2L or 1.20 or 1.2L.
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It's the one that I tried to keep it, but I also go a bit high on it, because I can always...
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I can always cut it down with additional water for when I take it over to my cousin,
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and how to drop the saline down the mattress table, which is about...
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It keeps it about 1.2L.
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So, for me, it's easier to just add more water than it is to, you know, mix salt up and try to...
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Try to measure it that way.
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Another thing that helps us to have a hydrometer, which is just...
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The one that I have just kind of measures is by...
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The density as far as I can.
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It's got like a flover in it.
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So, as you add water with mid-sing, the noise and signal kind of shift.
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Right where it's at.
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And it was on, it mixed with it all.
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And they sell those at home bar stores.
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So, I've said the guy who mixes up beer from time to time.
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I don't have a hydrometer, though, it's sad.
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I don't care if it's alcohol.
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I'd like to get those now in a big cartwheel.
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What, cartwheels?
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Cartwheels?
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Oh, yeah, yeah, good glass.
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Yeah, cartwheels, yeah.
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Get those to...
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Tigger, some firewood.
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Because right now it's like each bottle is like two liters.
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You can just rank up your amount, you're like...
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Yeah.
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And you get those...
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You can buy those at home bar stores that sell a lot of your bottles for beer and wine, I think.
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And they're like...
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I don't remember.
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I want to say they're like five gallons or something.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, five.
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That's a thing.
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So, I'm not going to go up to it.
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Yeah, you can get different sizes at the point.
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You can order all families on too, but I'll mention the shipping.
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And that's going to be...
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How?
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Because they're heavy.
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Yeah, also glass.
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It might not be...
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Partist bread will come in short.
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But yeah, like from the monetary aspect, the starter...
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For like 60 ounces, it's like 20 bucks.
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For two ounces, I guess 32 or 12 or 16.
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But yeah, I think like...
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For 24 ounces, like 24 ounces, it's like 20 bucks.
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Jesus.
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But to buy them out a little bit, yeah.
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The aquarium shop, you know, selling too.
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They're selling like seven ounce bottles for like...
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Between 17 and 30.
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So, if you're looking like a dollar or something like that,
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just pin on who you talk to and all that.
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So, you can just sit in the next one with the droves
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as long as you have plenty of lights.
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And I'll take a few minutes.
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If you don't care, I'll snap a picture of yourself.
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And I'll stick that in the show notes.
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Oh, yes.
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And, you know, be sure to get the bowings of something to stuff.
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But yeah, it doesn't take much of stuff.
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They're just kind of beautiful to watch.
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Is there specific keys for the gallery bottles?
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Or they're just going to be...
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Well, the thought is...
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You know, because I've built all kinds of bottles just...
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When you're growing stuff in bottles,
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and then all of a sudden you can hang on to them, just in case.
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That's not what I was going to have those like starters.
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So, it's going to be like a four-off something
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just to kind of keep them handy.
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Because you want to keep a few small samples in the fridge,
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just in case, for whatever reason,
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you get what's called a culture crash.
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Where it turns yellow and clear and separates out.
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And it makes you just die somewhere.
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That can happen.
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It can happen for different reasons.
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And that's come off the risk of all this to try to make sure
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that everything's in balance.
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But as long as you're not doing anything wrong,
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crazy with it, it shouldn't find.
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But for whatever reason, they do crash.
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You've got backups in the fridge.
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Because they'll keep.
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They'll...
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I've got someone there for the past month of May.
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They start to clear up a bit,
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but you just shake them off and they're going to go.
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They're just kind of in hypervision.
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But this one right here,
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actually...
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Well, actually both of these,
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I added the fridge for about a week.
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And then I put them back on to see if I could darken them off a bit.
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Because once a...
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Once a Southern one started getting real dark,
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I kind of moved the go-post on how I want them.
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Because the darker you begin them,
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the easier it is to split them,
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the more lucrative it is to some fish torches,
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because they're not that dark in color.
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It's more potent.
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And the guy that I'm talking to now,
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the other guy that you get this from,
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is real clear.
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They're not doing a good count.
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They're pretty much diluting the product down to nothing.
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And then try to pass it off.
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So we're going for a better product.
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So the essentially comes to us.
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There's a bit of a cutthroat industry.
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When you're selling those, do you,
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like, I guess,
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you just take them up to the aquarium store
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in the soda bottle?
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Yeah.
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What I'll do is I'll take the two-liter of them
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in the cousin's house,
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and he's got a dinnerware.
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He actually did empty bottles with a label.
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And he'll re-bottle them, like,
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smaller working soda.
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He's just, like, 12-months bottles.
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And we'll sell that to the store.
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The two stores that we talked to,
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one of them, they want the preached labels on it.
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You know, they're thinking,
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you can look real nice.
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And so that's mostly,
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you were trying to piece with the label.
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So the other one,
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we, essentially the same bottles,
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but we don't want to put the labels on them.
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Just to make it look nicer,
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but he's actually been known to do sell them
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out of, like, millions.
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So not a lot of regulation on that, then.
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I take it really high.
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I mean, it's just stuff that's growing out of people's houses.
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So you don't have to, like,
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you don't have to show proofs of any sort of, like,
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no, quantitative, like,
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this is how much algae is in the fluid.
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No, and that's something I do want to address,
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because I do have a microscope.
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And the thought is, you can get a graduated slide.
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You know, it's marked off in, like,
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tin, nanometer, like, a little grid.
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And you'll, you'll put a sample on there,
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and you'll look at it,
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and you'll do, like, a randomized count of, like,
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so many grid, you can sit there and just manually count them,
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and there's, like, equations that kind of figure out
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how much, you know, parts per million,
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and the sample is, and you kind of want to keep it consistent,
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that when the microscope I have doesn't get quite as focused,
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as it needs to be done.
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The one I have serious account for me is,
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it's like one of my first crystals.
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Is there a good slide?
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Yeah, we've got to have a microscope.
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I'm like, I'm like,
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four, but okay.
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And, you know, they've been some improvements.
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I want to get a better microscope,
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so I can actually do more accurate counts.
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But right now, we're just going to find the color standard,
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which is, like, it looks like a dark green.
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If it looks like a, you know, a dark leaf,
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it's kind of what you're going for,
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just like, you know, the color grass.
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But, yes, one of people is just, like,
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like, something just looks like white sea water,
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and it's just like, not even really great at all.
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And, we're trying to do a little better.
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I mean, yeah, there's some initiatives trying to increase
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the five-pointed population down in the tropics,
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because just through, like, you know,
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different things, like, just general pollution.
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The population of five-pointed is diminished,
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and then that kind of comes, problems, like, food chain,
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you know, carbon.
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It doesn't suck out as much carbon,
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so it's basically what saves deforestation.
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But it's, you know, an ocean,
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and that's something we don't often think about.
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And, depending on the article you read,
|
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something like 60% of our carbon cycle
|
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is actually through the ocean.
|
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Yeah.
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I read it just because I read that somewhere
|
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there's, like, the breathable air we did,
|
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is more dependent on the ocean than the air in the rainforest.
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Because, you know, when we were kids growing up,
|
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that's what they called the rainforest.
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Don't cut down the trees.
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And, but now we're saying that it's actually more,
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more than the ocean.
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And, you know, it just ends, like, purge effects.
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So, you know, just...
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Can I, you know, grow some algae?
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You should've met a little...
|
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Anything else you want to cover?
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I would talk about the different types.
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You don't just want to go out and scoop up algae,
|
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and then try to come home.
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Why not?
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Uh, some algae is pretty toxic.
|
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So, is it, like, just pretty much any catapultons gone?
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Yeah, do you want us to avoid?
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I mean, yeah, it's probably looks, you know, nice, pretty green.
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And, like, some brown.
|
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But, you know, you don't want that.
|
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Um, this is, specifically, uh, Nell Portopsus.
|
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And, it's, uh, it's non-toxic, it's, you know,
|
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it's all around, it's a good part of the kind of algae.
|
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It grows really well.
|
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Uh, there's another strand of dust free well.
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I think it's, uh, I'm going to mess up the names.
|
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Prior to something.
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Let's do it.
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Mm-hmm.
|
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But, uh, that was the idea.
|
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Yeah, that's, uh, I've been able to do free well.
|
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I think that you just do that.
|
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Maybe the structure is from it.
|
||||
Not that I'm not too sure.
|
||||
Um, there's some research, uh, using how it deals, uh, biofuel.
|
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So, you hear stories where people can run their, you know,
|
||||
diesel truck off the, uh, Fritz Rodriguez.
|
||||
Well, you could also, can't clean around on the algae.
|
||||
There's a reduction process.
|
||||
You know, it's one of, like, the saltwater.
|
||||
But, you basically get the, you get the actual algae mass.
|
||||
You dewater it.
|
||||
And then, there may be an additional process.
|
||||
It's a sort of like stripping cell walls and just going for the lipids.
|
||||
But, people do make, um, combustible oil from algae.
|
||||
So, that's some of the, uh, a lot of experience you went with now.
|
||||
And that's what I might get into, but right now, just, uh,
|
||||
you know, getting processed on and, you know, making sure I communicate a nice dark color.
|
||||
Increased the amount.
|
||||
Start from 12 ounces.
|
||||
I've probably got, uh, three or four liters.
|
||||
Three or four liters.
|
||||
Well, no.
|
||||
Six or seven liters right there probably.
|
||||
Rough estimate.
|
||||
So, the goal is to have, uh,
|
||||
a gallon that I can just, uh,
|
||||
in addition to just one, one of your own.
|
||||
Uh, because right now, I'm just doubling up.
|
||||
I've got one I can go sorry now.
|
||||
Uh, but I've been trying to,
|
||||
instead of just doing one all the time, you know, something, you know,
|
||||
this split, I'm trying to have a full,
|
||||
a full rat can cause a production.
|
||||
So, I've been holding on to more and said some of them off.
|
||||
And then once I got numbered up,
|
||||
I might just switch over to the,
|
||||
the larger glass cans and, you know,
|
||||
start doing gallons at a time.
|
||||
But,
|
||||
stuff to look forward to in the future.
|
||||
And how did you get the initial culture
|
||||
or whatever that you used to?
|
||||
Uh, Amazon.
|
||||
I'll really ignore it if I was off.
|
||||
Uh, it's, you got to, you know,
|
||||
search term.
|
||||
You can look for five point and find it,
|
||||
but nanochloropsis with, um,
|
||||
an A, N, N code,
|
||||
chloropsis.
|
||||
Yeah.
|
||||
CHL, a little harder.
|
||||
Yes.
|
||||
Of course, spelling is a sign of high.
|
||||
Google will frame you.
|
||||
But, um,
|
||||
yeah, you can find a lot of,
|
||||
just, just years, um, Amazon.
|
||||
Um, I'd like to get you full of rags just like, you know.
|
||||
So, um, Amazon,
|
||||
uh, I've got a pretty much a good distribution.
|
||||
Just your mind, cousin,
|
||||
and their contacts with, uh, the fish shop.
|
||||
So, I guess we can, um,
|
||||
later, you can shoot me,
|
||||
they know some links,
|
||||
I'll probably, you know,
|
||||
you know, we know it's what you can do, like,
|
||||
but, uh, probably,
|
||||
probably, like, they have a lot of stuff that you can buy.
|
||||
Maybe with the PD link,
|
||||
I don't know,
|
||||
it's not something to put in there.
|
||||
Yeah.
|
||||
That's important.
|
||||
I'll forward over some,
|
||||
not really about it.
|
||||
You know,
|
||||
we'll throw all that in the show,
|
||||
and it's,
|
||||
yeah, the taste about, like, uh,
|
||||
like, a gatorade.
|
||||
It's from, um,
|
||||
it's all,
|
||||
I don't believe you.
|
||||
I mean, we can,
|
||||
we can now,
|
||||
we can now have so many meals.
|
||||
I think, uh,
|
||||
is it like,
|
||||
some kind of,
|
||||
out-year yeast based,
|
||||
spread,
|
||||
veg of mine?
|
||||
Is it, like, a yeast?
|
||||
Yeah.
|
||||
Like an out-year,
|
||||
something.
|
||||
Something like that.
|
||||
Some kind of,
|
||||
you can find it out.
|
||||
it's 2018. We know there's this thing where we can just, you know, search for, we can
|
||||
google it being it. Ask Jeeps next time you see Jeeps go ahead and ask them to answer
|
||||
a question. Kind of miss Ask Jeeps really. Yeah. There were a lot of e-strings to you
|
||||
that you could ask to stop some other search engine. So you might be interested to know that
|
||||
our far-ranging supercomputer system that I pulled from my pocket says that
|
||||
Vegemite is one of several yeast extracts, breads. So taking Vegemite, putting a jug
|
||||
and you got that part in it. It's actually beer at that point. They didn't make
|
||||
basically beer. Beer is an interesting topic of its own. There's a, so it's an important
|
||||
staple item. A lot of people don't realize this is kind of funny and a little off topic, but like
|
||||
historically the archaeologist used to believe that human beings first began in the culture
|
||||
of grains to make bread. When in fact now it looks like they made bread. And it was a very
|
||||
sustaining. And of course, the ancient beer was thick and poor, not like the beer we drink
|
||||
today, but it's unfiltered and unpasteurized. It has a lot of models and crap in it that
|
||||
gets lost in that process. I can totally see that. As far as like oats, like oatmeal
|
||||
probably came first. You know, there's people just eating essentially grass at this point.
|
||||
Oh, I imagine too. Some of this was accidental because they don't have any way of preserving it,
|
||||
so it's going to burn it. Yeah, exactly. So they're just eating like raw grains and some of
|
||||
that. Well, I had a bit of water to it. They'll leave it out and they kind of like, you know,
|
||||
kind of ferment a little better. I kind of like it that way. And then eventually they're just,
|
||||
you know, they're just doing it for like, you know, that's a weird stuff. And then, you know,
|
||||
some point later on, like, if you look at it, making bread is kind of a fermentation process.
|
||||
It's kind of about the same, but it's more solid and liquid. And for those of you who do not
|
||||
have the benefit of having worked in a pizza place, like we have, when the dough starts to get
|
||||
old, it smells like beer. I remember we would have to throw it away, like at a certain point,
|
||||
that somebody would make too much. Do you remember those days? We'd have an entire, like, 55
|
||||
year old. The garbage can't fall on the dough. Throw it out of the dumpster and go back to
|
||||
later and throw cardboard and then we just read, like, eat your right in the face and you feel
|
||||
the groove. Just by open the business. It was so happy to, like, we had to, oh man, it took
|
||||
like two people to look at the thing. Wow, those days. The burglars.
|
||||
Like, why is it called that? That's just what it's called. The burglars.
|
||||
All right. That's actually the brand I think was the brand that the dough makes here. It was
|
||||
burgl. They call it the burglars. I mean the dough. That's the burglars. I haven't heard that in
|
||||
years. You learn something new every day, working in a pizza place. You really do. It was an interesting
|
||||
cross-section of human culture that would come in there because you would have to really pour,
|
||||
really, really pour people that are looking for a cheap point of peak to your family. Then you
|
||||
have the rich people who are skin-flints. So everybody came in and bought this cheap cracker.
|
||||
I was kind of considered a piece to be more luxurious than a stable, but you work for a brand that
|
||||
they're proud of joy as you leave this pizza in town. We won't mention their name because
|
||||
they're professionals, but it's very Romanesque. There's a reason Brutus got to stab him.
|
||||
Yeah. But, um, beer. Algae beer and pizza. Actually, all important. Now you figure out how we can
|
||||
argue based beer. I don't know if it would come out to be beer. I don't know what the
|
||||
dividing line. That's another thing I should probably mention. The weird thing is, is typically
|
||||
we associate wine with firey and smoothing people. Beer being like the low-class, low-viral,
|
||||
like commoners during or whatever. But the funny thing is, is beers actually harder to produce than
|
||||
wine, and it's more complex and has a more complex flavor profile than wine does. Wine is just
|
||||
fermented fruit juice, basically, and beer is a whole bunch of crap that is very hard to...
|
||||
I'm not going to go into it here, because when we get an entire episode of beer, it's like with
|
||||
the hot sauce and stuff, like people always drink the hot sauce. Yeah. It's like, oh, it's basically
|
||||
a week long, I don't know. But, uh, yeah, the hops, it's funny thing is, do you know, they're actually
|
||||
the same classification as like, you know, cannabis. Uh, space will sing family plans.
|
||||
And if you like see pictures of the parser, you're like, deaths. Yeah, that's, uh, it's, uh,
|
||||
it's interesting. The, uh, the wort, let me make the wort of, uh, whatever that stuff is,
|
||||
like, that brain, the whole brain's not working. It hasn't been brain far, but, uh, it's the, uh,
|
||||
boil that cracked down to make the sugar out of it, whatever it is, brain's not working, but, um,
|
||||
like, that much. Yeah, it's, well, it's mash, and uh, whiskey, and, um, it's called the
|
||||
award beer. It's the same, I guess, principle. And then hops, there's like two different kinds of
|
||||
hops, and they can be added in different parts of the beer making process, which is a little bit more
|
||||
complicated than, yeah, wine is super easy. You just throw some fruit juice and water and a big
|
||||
jug with some, uh, some yeast, and make sure it's got a, um, I mean, it's for the CO2
|
||||
who is gay, and you're good. And the weird thing is, there's a really a lot of variety of wine.
|
||||
It's like, you have like, you know, a shard, you know, like, a dollar, a lot of those, you know,
|
||||
champagne, things like that, but it's like, from what you're sending, a lot of those names are
|
||||
just kind of like words that were originally grown in the morning. It's like saying, hey,
|
||||
I want some west coves versus the east coves kind of stuff. I like, but like, the rest of these
|
||||
still seem to be sent with beers. I mean, you could have it based on the over and through again,
|
||||
they said, like, uh, wheat or, yeah, there's, there's different kinds. There's like stouts and nails,
|
||||
uh, the thing they've heard that I didn't know this, but the thing they've heard, it's like an
|
||||
ale from a water has to do with the yeast that they used to ferment with, and whether it's on the
|
||||
top or the bottom. Um, it's interesting stuff, but I was like quarter, you should really kind of
|
||||
dart, yeah, like stouts or like that. Stouts, um, I love these begins. Um, well, the darker color
|
||||
I don't know, I don't think it really grossed the hops, so give them the lighter grooves too,
|
||||
but it just depends, like, I don't know, I'm not a big, like right now, IPAs, it's really
|
||||
popular to say, and I just don't like it. I don't like bittery hops at the end. It makes it,
|
||||
it's one of the reasons that really bitter flavor is just, which is weird because you think I'd
|
||||
like the bitter flavor because I like stouts, but I don't understand either. It's just like,
|
||||
I think it's stouts, like if they're really done right, like you don't, you don't taste the bitter.
|
||||
Yeah. It is, it like tastes dark, but not bitter, and that's kind of hard, it's hard to describe.
|
||||
Yeah, I think it's really good. There's a, uh, it's weird to, um, if you take it again, it's like,
|
||||
I like the extra stouts better than the stout, because to me, the regular stout takes a little flat,
|
||||
and if you get to extra stouts and, um, and pour them into a glass, because I don't know what it is.
|
||||
I suspect it has something to do with the weight, it washes back over the, yeah, at all time,
|
||||
and it gets all the taste buds, but I can be completely wrong about that, I don't know, but
|
||||
it does seem to change the flavor profile for it into a glass, it's supposed to drink it out of the bottle.
|
||||
Well, a lot of very flavor comes through here, since it smells running in here.
|
||||
So you drink beer, and it tastes bitter, but like, unless you're actually smelling, you don't get the full
|
||||
effect to it. And some say that, depending on the shape of the glass, it's going to affect it.
|
||||
Like, uh, do you get your health as I'm there? Yeah, well, there's one, there's fancy beer, and I was like,
|
||||
with whole garden or something like that, and it was like, uh, it had this weird,
|
||||
floral bouquet, it smelled of flowers, and they suggest it put in like an hexagon of glass,
|
||||
so when you kind of, you know, sift it, you're going to stir it around, it creates, like,
|
||||
these vortexes off like the sides of the glass, it really stirred up the bouquet, and it was so
|
||||
slow. You know, when you're drinking a beer that they recommend, you know, walk shape of glass,
|
||||
you know, you know, you know how, when I was in the back of the moon, it was so pretentious. Yeah, beer,
|
||||
good stuff. All right, I don't know where we're at, we're at 40 minute mark, we should probably call
|
||||
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|
||||
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|
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