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Episode: 2988
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Title: HPR2988: A tale of two hackers in the same system
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Source: https://hub.hackerpublicradio.org/ccdn.php?filename=/eps/hpr2988/hpr2988.mp3
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Transcribed: 2025-10-24 14:21:41
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This is Hacker Public Radio Episode 2988 for Wednesday 15 January 2020.
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Today's show is entitled, A Tale of Two Hackers in the Same System.
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It is hosted by SIGFLOB
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and is about nine minutes long
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and carries an explicit flag. The summer is
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Xhacking and Modem stuff. Quote-
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Music
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Hello everyone. My name is SIGFLOB
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and you are listening to another edition of Hacker Public Radio.
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In this edition, I'll be talking about a tale.
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A tale of two hackers in the same system should be fun.
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Before I talk about it, though, I would like to have some housekeeping with some news.
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Episode HPR Episode 2592
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Tech Talk with Allison
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Well, Allison is no longer with us.
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She jumped off a bridge about a year ago
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and it's all very sad.
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And so, yeah, they're not with us anywhere.
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They got cremated. I went to their, I guess, wake or whatever.
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And I'm not, I'm not made of stone, right?
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So I cried so fucking much during that period of time.
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But now I'm kind of over it as long as I don't remember.
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Remind myself of Fern and whatnot.
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Anyway, that out of the way.
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A tale of two hackers in the same system.
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I went to the library.
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I lived in Washington County in Minnesota when I was a kid.
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And the library had these wise terminals like on tables all over the place.
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I don't know, like maybe five wise terminals in the library.
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And they were connected as it turns out to an AIX machine.
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Excuse me.
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AIX being IBM's Unix operating system as far as I know.
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So, I talked to, I was talking, I brought this up with the library.
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And I don't remember what I said exactly.
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I knew this is before the popularity of AOL and and
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Compuserve and Prodigy and those things.
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But she's like, yeah, you can, you can dial into the, you can dial into our system
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through the phone.
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So, I think the system they used at the library.
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It was called dial pack or something like that.
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And so I dialed the, the modem number when I got home that she gave me.
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And slow and behold, it just logs in a dial pack.
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With, with one thing, you do have to log in with a user name and a password.
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Both of which I was told just log in is library, library.
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And that seems to work.
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So, that's kind of neat.
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I figured out later that you can run links from the dial pack thing.
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And so that was cool.
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Like going to, to websites text only.
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For those of you who don't know links, it's a program Unix program that allows you to
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browse websites with just text, text only.
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So, yeah, so run links and there's this little thing about links you can press G.
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And you can type in tell net colon slash slash and address.
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And it will tell net to that address, which is pretty cool.
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So, I heard about this, this service called grex.org, which has Unix shows.
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And so I eventually like, I, I don't know how I got the account exactly,
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but I had an account after a while.
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And so I had this grex account, which is pretty neat.
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I kind of think the thing about Unix back then, they had a couple of commands,
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SX and RX, which sent X modem files, files through X modem.
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Or we see files through X modem, which is pretty cool.
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But yeah, those aren't, and on Unix anymore.
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So, at least the major BSDs and the, the Linux distros.
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So, yeah, so I played around with that for a while, and that was a lot of fun.
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And then maybe a month later, I found out that this is misconfigured the IX machine.
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If you just hang up and you call back, you will be at the same place you were when you hung up.
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Like, the modem does not, the modem does not hang up into AX, A I X is,
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IX is a perspective, but so, all right.
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So, I, I teleted it to my grex account, and I wrote a little message,
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and then I hung up the, the, the, the phone line, and I dialed right back.
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And there I was in the same editor that I exited, and I can look over what I wrote, right?
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So, that's pretty cool.
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What I decided to do was to write a login simulator.
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So, I would, um, side login, and I, I go, I connect to my grex account,
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then I'd run in my login simulator.
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So, the next person logs in, uh, just sees a login prompt, and, uh,
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for their username and their password.
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And I would have that information, because they're talking to me, and, um,
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on this window, okay, there were most, mostly people are just dialing into the library,
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with the library library username and password.
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So, nothing special.
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So, I decided to, um, port scan it for whatever reason.
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I think this host's name is Washington.lib.mn.us.
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I could be mistaken, but anyway, um, whoa, what was I saying?
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Yeah, so I decided to port scan it for whatever reason.
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And, uh, I found a root shell.
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I'm one of the, I'm one of the ports.
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And my, my immediate thought was, there's another hacker in here,
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which is very possible, um, that another hacker left this behind.
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So, that was awesome.
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I, I logged in.
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Uh, the very first thing I did was create another user account,
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and, uh, puts, um, in iNATD, in the, the iNATD min configuration file on, in Etsy,
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which I don't think there is there anymore.
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I, I put, it's, it's, it's, it's, um, it's a system iNATD,
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is a system where in which you can run programs in the standard day and in standard out,
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are sent over the web.
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So, so I had a running, uh, root shell from that.
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So, I would, I, I put the root shell on another, another IP.
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And I'm like, oh, this is awesome.
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And so, I hung up and I, I connected to my port through, um, iNATD,
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and it's, it, it was successful.
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It worked.
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And that only lasted for a week.
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And then all the, the, uh, the, the, the shells disappeared.
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My modifications to the configuration file disappeared.
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My user that I added disappeared.
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So that was sad.
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But, um, yeah.
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So that's my, my story.
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It's, uh, six minutes, about seven minutes here.
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Take care everyone.
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Thank you for listening.
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Bye-bye.
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