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Episode: 2994
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Title: HPR2994: Wrestling As You Like It Episode 3
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Source: https://hub.hackerpublicradio.org/ccdn.php?filename=/eps/hpr2994/hpr2994.mp3
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Transcribed: 2025-10-24 14:35:36
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---
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This is Hacker Public Radio Episode 2994 for Thursday, 23 January 2020.
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Today's show is entitled, Wrestling as You Like It Episode 3.
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It is the 10th anniversary show of the dude
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and is about 22 minutes long
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and carries an explicit flag. The summer is
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a podcast on why I like wrestling and how it works to draw in fans.
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Alright, and the dude is back here with wrestling as you like it.
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Episode 3.
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Now today, now I know that the last episode I said
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I was going to talk about into the fire
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from the National Wrestling Alliance,
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which I will a little bit, but not really reporting
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the results of like the matches and everything
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or everything that's been going on through the National Wrestling Alliance
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or Capitol Wrestling since this is the two permissions that I follow.
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It seems that the crowd here,
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which in professional wrestling you play off the crowd,
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so might as well use that in podcasting.
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It seems that people are more interested in
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talking about the intricacies of
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progressing like kind of how it works,
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which I can sort of do.
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I can't do in depth in depth because I mean,
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I'm not a professional wrestler, I am a
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would be journalist, but
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but I could do my best since I am a fan
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and I do understand some of it.
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So to tie in into the fire,
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we are going to talk about supercards
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and the roles of supercards
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and what exactly are supercards.
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Here's a hint.
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Paperviews typically are supercards.
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All right, so here we're going to talk about what a supercard is.
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I'm going to do the Wikipedia definition
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if you look up card in sports.
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A supercard consists of a title match,
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combat sport event,
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which comprises of high level matches
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and or special attractions.
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Supercards serve as a focal point
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of professional wrestling promotions
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and can function as a primary source of revenue for such promotions.
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A good example of,
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now this is just me talking,
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I'm done with the Wikipedia thing.
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A best example of a wrestling supercard
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is obviously WrestleMania.
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It is the biggest wrestling supercard
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out there today.
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Other big examples would be New Japan's
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Wrestle Kingdom.
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Obviously beforehand,
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like I said with the National Wrestling Alliance,
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obviously that would have been into the fire
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and what's coming up is hard times.
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And also,
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Capital Wrestling,
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despite only having monthly shows,
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actually does have special supercards,
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such as the last stop,
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which they do with other promotions.
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And they did have like a paperview,
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I think in Knoxville or somewhere around there,
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need to be more prepared with these things.
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But anyway,
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the function of a supercard,
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well obviously it's to draw revenue
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for the wrestling promotion
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by having like, you know,
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the best matches possible,
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but it also serves as a very,
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very big focal point for the storytelling
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that is in pro wrestling.
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It is essentially the season finale,
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although there would be like multiple seasons
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in a year since a lot of wrestling promotions
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have more than a yearly paperview
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or a yearly supercard.
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But pretty much what a supercard
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serves as, like I said,
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is pretty much a climactic point to a feud,
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whether it be ending a feud
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or starting a feud,
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or it could also be a high point
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in a continuation of a long-term feud.
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Great examples would be
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the numerous WrestleMania's against
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Austin versus the Rock,
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probably like their first matches
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like on a paperview
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would be igniting their feud
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and also having subsequent
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other matches on paperviews
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continuing of that feud
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and probably having one last match
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before either wrestler has retired.
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In modern times,
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going to talk about Into the Fire,
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we have a storyline with James Storm
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complaining that the National Wrestling Alliance
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has some conspiracy against him
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not wanting the world title
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and is accusing the champion
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of being a coward
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and essentially not facing him.
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Well, they finally have the match
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into Into the Fire
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and Nick Aldous wins
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by dubious instances
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leading credit to
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there is a conspiracy.
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I'll end in the next episode of NWA Power
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if you feel that there is
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and that Nick Aldous cheated to win
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and is now a heel.
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Beforehand, no one knew
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if he was a babyface or a heel
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and for those that don't know,
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he's a good guy,
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heel means bad guy.
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And with the National Wrestling Alliance,
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at least with the TV show Power,
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it's fairly new.
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So there's people that are developing
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their characters slash gimmicks
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and some people you're not sure
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if they're babyfaces or heels
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but luckily with different events
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such as Supercars,
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you can actually reveal
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somebody's intentions,
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whether they're a good guy or a bad guy.
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And into the Fire's case,
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it definitely showed
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leading up that they were turning
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Nick Aldous into
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definitively a bad guy.
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And all the enough,
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it kind of double turned.
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Now what a double turn is
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and I know I kind of went off
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on a rail,
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but a double turn is something
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that's beautiful if done right.
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It's when you have two people
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they go into a match
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as babyface and heel,
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and then they switch spots
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where the babyface becomes the heel
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and the heel becomes the babyface.
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Like within that match
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and a Supercard is a perfect spot
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for that.
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Now like I said recently
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you had James Storm
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who was proven to be right
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that he got screwed
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out of winning that title
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and was getting screwed
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of getting shots at that title
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since Nick Aldous is a cowardly heel
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and a dastardly heel at that.
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And on top of that
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a perfect example
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of the double turn
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would be the
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hold on, let me look this up.
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I'm pretty sure
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hold on.
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I want to say it was
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Survivor Series.
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That's WWE
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back then it was WWE F
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but
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hold on,
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WWE F.
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But anyway,
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as I am stalling for time on this
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it was between Brett Hart
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and Stone Cold Steve Austin.
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Steve Austin came in
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as the heel
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and Brett Hart
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came in as the
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babyface
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and let's see here.
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Yeah, I believe it is Survivor Series
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that that was the 10th.
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Is that the 10th one?
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Yeah it was.
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Alright, the 10th one.
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And pretty much
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Brett Hart puts Steve Austin
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into the sharpshooter.
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And
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that is a
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submission hold.
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And the referee
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goes up to Steve Austin
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and asks him if he wants
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the quit.
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Well, Steve Austin
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doesn't quit.
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He actually passes out
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refusing to quit
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and with him wanting to fight
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on the crowd
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he expects him
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as being like,
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hey, you know,
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he's a fighter,
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he's tough,
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we like this guy.
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So they start cheering Austin.
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LN after the
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Bell's ring,
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you know,
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to stop the match.
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Brett Hart being
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frustrated,
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kick Steve Austin
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while he's like
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down and passed out
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and
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becoming
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loathe.
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And just the United States
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of America.
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That's the funny thing
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about
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heel Brett Hart
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was that he was a
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heel in the United States
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of America.
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But like in Canada
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and other places
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he was a babyface.
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Really creative.
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And that's why I like
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heel Brett Hart
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better than
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babyface Brett Hart
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because there's like a
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lot of
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more variety to it
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as opposed to being
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just a guinea-toothed
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shoes.
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But my
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might
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have to dress
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you have things
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like that
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or
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or
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really good
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iconic events
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such as
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I believe it was
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crap.
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I think it's
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WrestleMania
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three.
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I want to say
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WrestleMania
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three.
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But regardless,
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I'm talking about the
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slamming of the giant.
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Now,
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despite what
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WWE once
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tells you,
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Andre the giant
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was not
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undefeated
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and Hulk Hogan was
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the first person
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to slam him.
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And it's also
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was at the first time
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Hulk Hogan had
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slammed Andre the giant.
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But this was the
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first time
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that a worldwide
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audience had
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seen Andre the giant
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lose.
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Because last time
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that Andre the giant
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would lose
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or get slammed,
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it would be
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in like
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a local
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television market.
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Because that's how
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wrestling was
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in the 70s
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was that each
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promotion had
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their own
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territory had
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a specific spot
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where they
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broadcasted.
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But with that
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WrestleMania,
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it was a world
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wide event.
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And a lot of people
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hadn't seen Andre the
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giant
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lose
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or
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get slammed
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in a single
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competition.
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And
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it's
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what drew
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and the people
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went wild
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because they never
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saw someone
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at that size.
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And Andre the giant
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lose.
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It was
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huge back then.
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Like in the 70s
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when people
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slammed him,
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like he was a big
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guy then.
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But he
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weighed
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a lot
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when Hogan finally
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did.
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Although
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it wasn't
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while Andre was
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at his heaviest.
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That would probably
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be the
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ultimate warrior
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that slammed him
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while Andre was
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at his heaviest.
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But Hogan was
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pretty damn
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close.
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And what Hogan
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actually said
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was that he was
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just like
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he could
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feel the
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fernabray in his
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back, just like
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crack, going
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kink, kink, kink, kink,
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kink, and
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then he finally
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slammed him.
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But it's
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events like that
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or the
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I think that's
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on the same event,
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the same
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Rassolmania.
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You would have
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Ricky the
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dragon steampot
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versus Randy Savage
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to the best
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wrestlers
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in the business and they have pretty much a damn near perfect match and Miss
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WWF fans will say like that is the greatest match that was ever in wrestling now
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New Japan fans what should say modern New Japan fans would probably say Okaada
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versus Kenny Omega and people that watch the MWA or WCW back in like the A's
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and something that would say Ricky Steamboat versus Rip Flair but regardless all
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those again three matches that I would say were the greatest matches ever all
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occurred on super cards so super cards draw in the money because people see
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this as pretty much the best matches that you're going to get from this
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promotion at this certain point and to do that is with great storytelling like
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starting feuds continuing feuds for or an end to a feud and hopefully the
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climactic battle that happens the crowd likes and continues people to watch
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the TV shows and also go to special live events which are also known as
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house shows which are typically not televised but sometimes they end up being
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televised or recording but that being said hopefully you guys have a little bit
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understanding on what super cards are and how they work and maybe you'll
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actually be able to check one out for yourself like I said hard times is coming
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up that would be available on the fight network September I forgot to mention
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this in September the first super card which would be the CMLL anniversary show
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which CMLL is the oldest promotion still going on in the world today which is
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a promotion out of Mexico which is the Luchilini style wrestling you know the
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wrestlers the masks El Santo Rey Mysterio Jr. Eddie Guerrero would be one of the
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legendary Luchidores that have all competed in the various meds of
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compression CMLL included but they have their anniversary shows on September
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and I keep freaking missing them like I keep it's like I want to buy that pay
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review but I keep missing that pay-per-view because I totally forget which day
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it's on and those pay-per-views are really cheap and as the longest running
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pay-per-view series is their anniversary shows like they're up to like 80
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something for like their anniversary shows and it would be amazing to witness
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that at least on shall we say on my computer screen or on a TV screen let alone
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live but there's that and also the various WrestleMania would be nice although
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I would say that WWE with having like their TV programs being long it's made
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the pay-per-views longer and sometimes with long supercards and you know
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slash long pay-per-views even long TV shows it's hard to keep people's attention
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throughout the entire thing and that's kind of bad for a supercard but if the
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main event matches are worth it they're worth it
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now that being said I'm going to read a comment that I had from the last
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year since I finally got a comment this is B Ronaldo that has a topic WWE
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because interesting info I remember in the early 90s watching WWE up with my
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dad now I know why they changed the name to WWE the Panda won the fight
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absolutely and it also that also reminds me of like this internet meme where it
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has like two pandas hitting each other with chairs and it says WWF that always
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gave me a chuckle but yeah and like I said before I don't know why they didn't
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go back to like worldwide wrestling federation and have it WWF whether that
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was just too close to worldwide life fund or not who knows but that being said
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it's WWE now and that being said keep on listening to the next show I'll try to
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bring up some more things to help clarify how wrestling works what I
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personally like it and why other people should you know give it a shot
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especially since nowadays there isn't really that much of a monopoly I mean
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they're kind of is but with the internet you got so many promotions that are
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able to distribute their content and you can definitely try to find something
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that is your niche for the type of wrestling that you like and it also helps
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for all the UK fans well here is that British wrestling has is make it a huge
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comeback and the fact that British wrestlers are getting the recognition that
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they deserve after a long overdue time is amazing is great for all the women
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listeners women's wrestling is definitely in a boom period especially when
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WWE the women's matches are more important than the men's matches so finally
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women are getting there due to being you know the top of the card for the top of
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the event you know the main event since like the 1950s but yeah anyway see you
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guys next episode I think next episode with me being a journalist I think I
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might actually talk about how wrestling journalism has changed throughout
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time and how it's you know the history origins how it started out and the two
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key figures because in modern wrestling journalism comes down to two main
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people and that is Bill Aptor and Dave Meltzer usually like when it comes to
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wrestling journalism it's either Bill Aptor school or Dave Meltzer school
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of reporting so I'll definitely cover that and I'll actually be kind of a
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little bit of an expert at that since I am going to school for journalism so
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therefore this is my forte so anyway see you guys later
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