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+Episode: 3152
+Title: HPR3152: My Pocket Knives
+Source: https://hub.hackerpublicradio.org/ccdn.php?filename=/eps/hpr3152/hpr3152.mp3
+Transcribed: 2025-10-24 17:51:03
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+This is Hacker Public Radio Episode 3152 for Tuesday, 1 September 2020. Today's show is entitled,
+My Pocket Knives. It is hosted by Dave Morris
+and is about 15 minutes long
+and carries an explicit flag. The summary is
+I talk a little about some pocket knives, I often carry.
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+Music
+Hello everybody.
+Welcome to Hacker Public Radio. This is Dave Morris.
+Today I've got a fairly short show. It's the sort that I quite like to listen to, quite like to do.
+It's basically a list, but you might find it interesting.
+I'm talking about pocket knives.
+Now, when I was a boy, quite long time ago now,
+maybe from about the age 10, I was given a pen knife
+as they were called. Have they still called that?
+It was a little thing with a pearl handle, with two blades in it.
+It carried that all the time around with me.
+It was pretty normal. I mean, you could take that to school
+and sharpen pencils with it. It was very common to do that.
+Anyway, since then, I've always carried pocket knives
+with some sort with me.
+Not necessarily in my pocket, but in a rock sack or whatever.
+There were three knives that often travel with me just now.
+Though two of them have got a locking function on them,
+and UK laws seem to be against such knives for reasons
+that I'm not entirely clear about.
+Given that a knife is just as deadly with it locks or not,
+but there you go. If you have one and you're stopped by the police,
+you have to give a good reason for why you're carrying it.
+You know, it's to do with your business or something.
+Anyway, I'm going to talk about these three knives,
+and just in brief, just to summarize what I'm going to talk about,
+one's a Victoria Knox Huntsman.
+The other one is a duerol French knife,
+and the third one is a Roxon knife from China.
+Let's talk about the Huntsman, the Victoria Knox.
+I expect most people know about these sorts of knives.
+They're generally called Swiss Army Knives.
+That's what they originally derived from.
+There's quite a lot of information about the history of this stuff,
+and I've pointed to a few things like Wikipedia article.
+They're usually knives which have lots of tools in them.
+The number of tools can vary.
+It can just be two or three, but can be quite a enormous amount
+for the more expensive ones.
+Victoria Knox is the predominant brand now.
+They used to be others, but they've all been sort of bought.
+I'll disappear, I think.
+The Wikipedia article I refer to tells you quite a lot.
+The model I've got is the Huntsman,
+and it's classified as a medium-sized knife, if you'll.
+The Victoria Knox website.
+I won't list all the bits, but in brief,
+it's got two blades, which are really sharp.
+There are scissors.
+It's actually got a saw for cutting wood,
+which I, for some reason, are other in the photos I forgot to open out.
+If you open out all the tools on these things,
+you have to be really careful on how you think.
+So maybe I was just being ultra cautious.
+Anyway, yeah, it's a cool thing.
+Some pictures of it.
+It's also got a couple of little detachable tools in it,
+which is a toothpick, which is a plastic toothpick.
+Strange thing to have in a knife, I guess.
+You never know.
+And a pair of tweezers, which are actually quite good for, again,
+splinters or fingers, or whatever I've found.
+One of the best pairs of tweezers I have.
+I recently bought one of these,
+a very long time ago in Edinburgh,
+from my tool shop near the centre of the city.
+And this tool shop was really old fashioned,
+by a family, sort of family shop, had lots and lots and lots and lots of stuff,
+not organised in any particular way to sort of all around the place.
+But you could get so much good stuff in there.
+And they had a sale of these knives.
+I don't know why, because I think they hold their price pretty well,
+but I took advantage of it in bought one, bought the Huntsman.
+Love that knife.
+Carried it with me a lot in my pocket.
+But when I, walking with the kids one weekend,
+and we were cutting sticks,
+because that's what you do when you're out in the woods with children,
+and using the saw.
+And I put it back in my pocket,
+and it must have fallen out at some point,
+because I lost it.
+So I felt pretty sorry for myself,
+but it was really, you know,
+the things that you really like and that you lose,
+you do tend to regret this I do.
+But eventually I decided, well,
+the only sensible thing to do would be to get another one.
+So I bought the current one of Amazon,
+where the price was not as good as the original sale price,
+but it wasn't too painful.
+I think there's somewhere around 30, 35 pounds for this one now.
+I think in the 20, 25 sort of area when I bought it,
+28, I don't remember now.
+Anyway, but so I'm very careful with it,
+tend not to carry it in my pocket so much.
+And it's usually in my rucksack,
+but you have to watch out for carrying knives in a rucksack,
+because often these days you go into museums and stuff,
+and they want to put anything you're carrying through,
+and you, in some cases, through a metal detector.
+So...
+Second knife cut is a duo,
+I think it's a duo brand,
+and there's a couple of pictures of it.
+It's manufactured in an interesting city
+in central France called Tier,
+let's say, France.
+And it's known as the Knife City,
+because it's got loads of factories that make knives.
+It's the source of many knives that you'll find in France,
+and elsewhere I think.
+This is a classic design,
+and Tier is in...
+How do you say this?
+Anyway, it's in the over and region,
+central, central France.
+Never been there myself,
+but some might really like to visit one day.
+On the Wikipedia page for this,
+it says it's about Tier,
+is a major historical center of knife manufacturing
+with about 100 companies and a cutlery museum.
+70% of French pocket knives,
+kitchen table knives are manufactured in Tier.
+My sort of bass, really.
+This particular knife has a wooden handle,
+which I believe is ash.
+I can't identify myself.
+I think the design's been ash for the old fashioned one,
+which this is.
+There's a metal collar at the top,
+which if you picture, you'll see.
+And through the collar is a riveted pivot
+on which the blade sits.
+The blade is locked in a closed position,
+and there's a red button on the handle
+of the knife, which you press, and you can unlock.
+Then when it's in the open position,
+it locks again,
+and the red button does the job.
+The knife design is documented
+as possibly being derived from the other
+a classic French pocket knife,
+which I assume it must therefore be...
+have been created before the Dural.
+And that's the Opinel.
+And just so having that Shane Shenan
+did a show on this knife,
+and a few other things showed 2650.
+Partly what gave me the idea to talk about my knife.
+I think it's actually a nice subject.
+There's something to be thinking of doing a show
+and you're into knives, then.
+That might be a fun thing to talk about.
+So this model is the basic one.
+Yeah, I think it is the bottom version.
+And there are others with different colours,
+plastic handles, more accessories,
+like coarse-groo, or bottom-loading,
+this sort of thing.
+So I tell you the tale of how I came by this knife.
+I bought it in France in the 1980s,
+somewhere, not quite clear when, exactly,
+but to 82, 3, somewhere like that.
+We used to go to conferences.
+I was working at local university at that point.
+We used to go to conferences
+because there was a budget for doing that.
+My boss tended to chair various bits,
+like to be on management committees and stuff for us.
+We were going to Paris.
+We were driving from Edinburgh,
+which was an interesting thing to do,
+but something he did fairly often.
+It was being a great flank of file.
+And I made some footnote here thinking,
+maybe you might have been interested in this.
+Footnote says,
+to get to, from Edinburgh to Paris,
+we drove in my bus's car.
+It's not surprisingly a French car.
+And we took share, we shared the driving.
+We drove to Dover on South Coast of England.
+And we took then hover speed hovercraft service to Calais.
+So that was, that's long gone now.
+I think it's closed down.
+The link is a link here, which we'll tell you.
+I don't remember.
+I think it closed down in about 2005,
+having been running from the early 1980s.
+Hovercraft were more cool and they seemed to be...
+It was a great massive thing that came up ramp on the beaches,
+I recall.
+You could drive a car into an upper ramp and into the usual thing.
+It got strapped down.
+Then you sat in a thing that felt a bit like an aeroplane,
+seating area.
+And it was a reasonably smooth crossing.
+I don't think hovercraft were very good with choppy,
+sea conditions.
+Certainly heavy, a heavy swell would stop the service,
+as far as I understand.
+And they were incredibly noisy too,
+with sort of big aircraft engine on the top to drive the fans.
+Anyway, we took the hovercraft to Calais.
+We just ran up the beach and we then drove from there
+into Calais, itself.
+We drove to Paris from there.
+But on our way through Calais,
+there was... Calais was famous.
+I don't know if it still is for these
+Heeper Maashe hypermarkets,
+which a lot of brits tended to visit,
+because it's a good place to get cheap wine and cheese
+and all sorts of stuff.
+I don't know what the status of that stuff is now,
+but at that particular point is a very cool thing to do.
+And we went in one to see what it was like
+and to get some stuff for lunch.
+And I bought a bit, get some cheese
+and there are the usual things that you do
+and you're in France.
+There's some smelly cheese, because it's...
+And I saw this knife available in the...
+in the hardware, and thought,
+oh, that'd be good for...
+because you can use it for spreading stuff
+and you can use it for cutting stuff.
+So, I'm gonna have that.
+So, I bought that there.
+And it stayed with me ever since.
+So, it's pretty, pretty old.
+It doesn't look too bad at it, actually.
+It's used to throw a bit.
+So, that's my tail.
+So, the third knife is called Rockson,
+ROXON, and I saw it on Amazon
+and thought it would be quite cool.
+It's a single-bladed knife
+and you can open it with one hand
+because it got the button on the blade
+that you could swivel around.
+I've never owned such a knife before
+and thought it would be quite a stylish-looking thing.
+You can see, if you've got access to the pictures,
+it locks open and then when, as it opens,
+it reveals an unlock button,
+you can press and close the blade up again.
+It's not spring loaded or it wouldn't be with it.
+I'd say it was a right-handed design, though.
+I would imagine it'd be quite difficult to open it
+and be left-handed in the way I can do it with my right hand.
+But, I don't know, I've never been left-handed,
+so I don't know.
+It's got a belt clip or a pocket clip on the rear,
+which you can detach, apparently,
+looked into doing that.
+From that side, there's a pair of scissors.
+Scissors in knives, nothing very special.
+These are massive, given the size of the knife.
+They are really junky and very robust and sharp and effective.
+What little experience I've had with them.
+You could prune small plants and that sort of thing with them in the garden.
+You could cut heavy fabrics and so on and so forth.
+I got the knife from Amazon, as I said.
+It was about 25 pounds.
+I found that it's made in China when I looked at the box.
+It's hard to find out where it's come from on Amazon.
+They don't always tell you random stuff, nothing that you want to know often.
+The rocks on the website don't set telly very much about where it is.
+Anyway, it's getting different as a very limited.
+It seems quite well made and it's quite comfortable to hold and to use.
+My only concern is that the knife has got two bevels to it.
+It's got a usual sort of cutting edge, long cutting edge,
+and then rather than curving to the tip, there's a turn to it.
+I don't know how easy it would be to sharpen just that we tip it.
+But, of course, use a wet stone or some sort.
+In conclusion, if I had to choose one knife to take with me on a trip,
+I think I'd take the Victorian Oxford, which has got so much versatility
+and all the gadgets with it.
+But most of the time, I have all three of these in pretty proximity bag in a pocket.
+On the desk beside me, isn't it?
+And so, don't really have a strong preference.
+So that's the end.
+Hope you find that interesting.
+As I say, if you think it's a subject worth adding to, then do so by all means.
+Okay, then, bye.
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