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+Episode: 3463
+Title: HPR3463: Clonezilla: A backup story
+Source: https://hub.hackerpublicradio.org/ccdn.php?filename=/eps/hpr3463/hpr3463.mp3
+Transcribed: 2025-10-24 23:58:41
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+This is Hacker Public Radio Episode 3463 for Wednesday, the 10th of November 2021.
+Today's show is entitled, Clone Zola, A Backup Story.
+It is hosted by Ro-N and is about 34 minutes long and carries a clean flag.
+The summary is Ro-N, walks through the process of backing up, his laptop with Clone Zola.
+Hi, welcome to another episode of Hacker Public Radio.
+Today I'm going to be talking about Clone Zola.
+I'm going to be using it to help back up my laptop when I go to restore the operating system.
+To sort of give a brief synopsis of what Clone Zola is, I will read from their opening page on Clone Zola.org.
+What is Clone Zola?
+Clone Zola is a partition and disk imaging cloning program similar to True Image or Norton Ghost.
+It helps you do system deployment, bare metal backup, and recovery.
+Three types of Clone Zola are available.
+Clone Zola Live, Clone Zola Light Server, and Clone Zola SE Server Edition.
+Clone Zola Live is suitable for single machine backup and restore.
+While Clone Zola Light Server or SE is for massive deployment and can clone many 40-plus computer simultaneously,
+Clone Zola saves and restores only use blocks in the hard disk.
+This increases the clone efficiency with some high-end hardware and a 42-no cluster,
+a multicast for storing at a rate of 8 gigabits per minute was reported.
+So I will be using the Clone Zola Live today to make images of my hard disk.
+I actually have a two-hard disk in my computer laptop.
+It's 2 SSD drives.
+I had purchased about three years ago, I think, three or four years ago now,
+a 17-inch laptop from System76.
+It's the Q2 model, which is one of the white box models.
+This is before I think they were actually making their own, producing their own laptops.
+So it doesn't, it's not like open firmware all the way up through the OS and everything.
+I think they've replaced as much of the firmware blobs as they can with open source.
+But I think it still contains a number of proprietary blobs in it,
+and it's not using the open, I don't think it's using the open firmware to actually boot up.
+It is an EUFI system though.
+I'm not sure what happened.
+I recently was updating and I kept getting errors that it couldn't finish doing a kernel update.
+I kept running into errors.
+And I thought maybe this was because I had downloaded and compiled some software.
+It was to run to run Roblox.
+My girls are into Roblox and they want to be to play with them.
+So I was seeing if I could get that going.
+And I'm not sure that's what caused it.
+For whatever reason, I ran into issues updating the kernel with just the standard.
+Their pop OS store, which is their sort of synaptic install your software software.
+And it just wouldn't install.
+I kept running into errors.
+And in the process of trying to get it fixed,
+I think I basically desystem 76, my operating system to a degree.
+Like a lot of things just aren't working now.
+So I figured I think this has always been a little funky because I think this came with 1804.
+Ubuntu when I first got it.
+And then I switched to pop OS.
+And I know pop OS is now not using grub for the boot loader.
+But it was still using, I'm just not sure what it is.
+So I figured it's time to just sort of make a backup.
+And then reinstall the operating system.
+Even though I'm doing the backup, I do.
+My second drive is actually my home drive.
+So hopefully that won't be an issue.
+But I'm going to make a backup just in case I accidentally flew out.
+And I don't lose all my information.
+So anyway, this episode with the preamble out of the way is going to sort of recording me
+using walking through the steps of the clenzyl alive and getting my hard drive backed up to my external hard drive.
+Okay, so I've already downloaded clenzyl and flashed it to a USB stick.
+They have nice instructions for how to do that.
+I use Unit booting to actually burn the ISO onto a disk.
+But you can also just format the disk.
+And they have a tar or GC file that you can just unzip onto a flash drive if you want to use that method.
+The one nice thing about the system 76 is it's very easy to get into the boot menu.
+You just hit the power on and then hold the F7 key.
+And then you will get the grub boot menu or whatever the boot menu is.
+I don't know if it's grub at this point or not.
+I think it's the UEFI boot menu actually.
+Except there we go.
+And then I just key down to UEFI San Dispartition 1.
+And now I'm at clenzyl alive.
+The clenzyl boot menu actually, I think this is using grub.
+It gives you a number of options.
+There's clenzyl alive VGA 800 by 600.
+Clenzyl alive VGA 800 and 2 RAM.
+I guess that means put it into RAM.
+The whole thing.
+There's clenzyl alive VGA with large bond and 2 RAM.
+This is the one I'm actually going to pick.
+I did the 800 by 600.
+I think that keeps, oops.
+I lost my boot menu.
+Maybe not.
+I think it's about the boot because I didn't pick something soon enough.
+What's going on?
+Yes, I think it's booting into the 800 by 600 because that's what I had it on.
+Well, I can do that.
+It's just have to look a little closer at the screen.
+It puts you into an incursors GUI menu.
+So now I'm selecting English from my language.
+Having to hit OK.
+Keyboard layout.
+I'm going to keep the default keyboard layout from the US.
+Now you see, let's jump to another menu.
+Start clenzyl in the clenzyla or enter login shell.
+I'm going to start clenzyla.
+Now you get the licensing menu.
+And then the hand from now on,
+if multiple choices are available,
+you have to press space key to mark your selection.
+An asterisk will be shown when the selection is done.
+Two modes are available.
+You can clone slash restore disk or partition using an image
+to disk or partition to partition clone slash restore.
+Besides, clenzyl like server and client modes are also available.
+You can use them for massive deployment.
+Select mode.
+I'm going to use the images because that's what I'm used to using.
+So it's device image work with disk or partition using images.
+OK.
+Before cloning you have to assign where clenzyl image will be saved to or read from.
+We'll mount that device or remote resource at home part image.
+The clenzyla image will be saved to or read from the home part image.
+Select mode.
+So you have local dev use local device.
+SSH server.
+Samba server.
+NFS server.
+Web dev server.
+S3 server.
+Enter shell.
+Ram disk.
+Use memory.
+OK.
+Or BT or from rod device.
+Skip.
+So I'm going to use local dev.
+If you want to use USB device as clenzyla image repository, please insert USB device into the machine now.
+Wait about five seconds.
+Press enter key so that the OS can detect the USB device and later we can mount it.
+So that is what I'm going to do.
+Wait about five seconds.
+Looking at the timer on my recording.
+It looks like about five seconds.
+So I'm going to hit enter.
+I think it will.
+Now I've got a blank screen as it's thinking.
+Oh.
+Now I say let's see.
+OK.
+What's going on?
+You can insert storage device into now if you want.
+Use that.
+Then wait for it to be detected.
+Update periodically.
+Visit petition.
+USB DC.
+Backup hub.
+Seagate.
+Yes.
+OK.
+So it looks like it's seeing it.
+Control C to exit this window.
+OK.
+So I'm going to hit Control C.
+And what's going on?
+Screen is terminating.
+Founding local dev home partition.
+Excluding.
+Excluding busy partition or disk.
+Excluding.
+Finding partitions.
+Partition number six.
+Dev SDA.
+Getting information on the different.
+What's going on?
+OK.
+So it's gone through.
+It's found all looks like all the hard drives and the partitions on the hard drives that are in my machine.
+So I have my SDA drive, which is my main drive that has the various.
+Linux and boot partitions on it.
+It's got SDB.
+What the one partition, which is my home drive.
+It's a gigabyte or a carabyte drive.
+And then it's found.
+OK.
+That's right.
+Because I had to mute.
+In a different episode, you'll hear about my trials trying to boot off of this drive on a Mac mini, which hasn't gone well.
+Which is another story that hopefully will be in a HBR episode soon.
+So it's already partitioned.
+So I'm going to pick the second partition on the.
+C drive, which is this external USB C gate drive I have.
+The first partition is just the boot partition that I created.
+So let's pick that.
+OK.
+Choose if you want to check and repair the file system before mounting the image repository.
+This is only for certain file system.
+I'm going to try to support it by FSCK.
+I'm going to get new Linux.
+Like EXT, 234.
+Riser FS, XFS.
+Not NTFS, HFS plus.
+This is for mounting local storage device as an image repository.
+Skip checking, repairing.
+I think I can skip it.
+It should be fine.
+Yeah, let's skip that.
+All right.
+Which directory is for the clonezilla image repository?
+If there's base and a directory, it will not be shown.
+When the current selected surname is what you want to use tab key to choose from done.
+No, you should not choose directory tagged with CZ image.
+They are just for you to know.
+Current directory path.
+Current selected surname is root.
+Exit directory browsing.
+So I've root and...
+...and loss and down.
+Nice subter...
+Oh.
+That's about browse.
+Open source.
+Let's do it again.
+I guess I'm just going to put this in root for now.
+That shouldn't matter.
+Tab, I guess, done.
+Can't remember if I'd reformatted this.
+There might actually be a Geeks SD operating system on this.
+That's the way on where the images are.
+Let's see.
+Running mount bind.
+That says bind dash here in no time.
+Okay.
+So it's mounting part to the home part image.
+SDC, XT4 size.
+915.7 gigabytes.
+Use 76 megs.
+Available later in 96.
+There's plenty of space.
+All right.
+Choose mode to run the following wizard about advanced parameters.
+We have beginner expert and exit.
+I am going to do beginner.
+Okay.
+Let's see.
+The software will overwrite the data on your hard drive when restoring.
+It's recommended to backup importantly.
+Okay.
+We're not restoring.
+On the mount, multiple choices.
+Save local disk.
+Save part.
+Save local partition as an image.
+Save local disk as an image.
+Sorry.
+It might.
+Okay.
+I think we're saving local disk.
+That's what I want the whole disk.
+Okay.
+Image.
+SDA.
+All right.
+I think it's letting me pick.
+The name of the image for the disk that I want.
+I'm hoping it's going to let me pick with disk I want to image.
+Okay.
+Excluding.
+Excluding.
+Yes.
+Okay.
+Choose local disk as source.
+This name is the device name in New Linux.
+The first disk in the system is HDA or SDA.
+It's like a disk.
+HDB or SDB.
+Multiple choices are available.
+Press Space key to mark your selection.
+Nostrics will be shown when the selection is done.
+Okay.
+So I guess I'm going to...
+I guess you could do this.
+Can you do this?
+Let's see if I pick that.
+I can't do them both at the same time.
+Uh...
+Yes.
+I think I'll do that.
+It's going to make the name I picked.
+Let me see.
+Maybe I can go back and change it.
+Shift tab.
+I hit cancel.
+You have chosen to choose a device.
+Do you want to do it again?
+Yes.
+All right.
+Well.
+For time's sake...
+I don't feel like going through this whole process again.
+I'll just have to rename the image later.
+Because I was thinking I was going to do...
+Like I do the A drive and make an image back up.
+And then do the B drive.
+But I think now that I'm here,
+I'm just going to...
+I think it'll make two images.
+All right.
+Let's just end decision.
+That's the one thing about live podcast.
+They're very exciting like this.
+All right.
+I'm just going to go to the FDA and see how that goes.
+Hit OK.
+Enter.
+Choose a compression option.
+If you have no idea,
+keep the default value and do not change anything.
+ZIP.
+Use.
+Parallel GZIP compression for multi-core CPU.
+Dash Z9P.
+ZStd and T compression very fast.
+And small image like GZIP for multi-core CPU.
+I'm so tempted.
+Do I know what I'm really doing?
+ZIP is standard.
+But I like very fast and small image like GZIP.
+And I think I have a multi-core CPU.
+So I'm going to go with that.
+Live on the edge, I guess.
+Although I guess we're back up.
+This may not be the best thing,
+but it should be fine.
+It's all Linux all the way down.
+Choose if you want to check and repair the file system
+before this option is for certain.
+Yeah, we'll just skip that.
+After I'm just saved,
+do you want to check if the image is restoreable?
+Yes, I do want to check that the image is restoreable.
+Tab.
+OK.
+Do you want to encrypt the image?
+If yes, he could pull.
+No, I don't need to do that now.
+I do when I do the install of the new OS.
+I am going to encrypt it.
+But this is for the backup purposes.
+I don't need to do that right now.
+Set not to.
+OK.
+The action to perform when everything is finished.
+Choose reboot shutdown.
+Everything.
+It's set.
+I guess I'll hit choose.
+OK.
+There's choose.
+Enter a line command prompt reboot or shutdown.
+I'm just going to pick choose.
+So give me an option.
+OK.
+Next time you can run this command directly.
+It gives you a long command.
+So you can run it from the command line directly to create this image.
+It's also saved as a file name.
+Hit enter to continue.
+OK.
+Activating the partition and proc.
+Done.
+Select the device.
+FDA found.
+Select the device.
+FDA searching for data swap or extended partitions.
+Excluding.
+Busy part.
+Excluding Linux rave member partition.
+Unmounted partitions.
+Selected the device.
+Selecting all the different FDA one.
+FDA two.
+FDA three.
+The following step is to save the hardest partitions on this machine as an image.
+Machine Kudu.
+FDA and it gives the name.
+Yeah.
+FDA one.
+FDA two.
+FDA three.
+Home part image.
+FDA are you sure you want to continue?
+Yes.
+Enter.
+OK.
+All right.
+So we're in through a thing.
+And now I'm at part, it says part clone.
+And it's basically a progress screen.
+I guess it just, it did the first partition pretty quickly because it's not really big.
+It was just a boot partition.
+Now it's working on.
+I don't know which.
+What's it doing?
+Part.
+FDA two.
+Reading super block.
+Calculating bitmap.
+Please wait.
+Done.
+File system.
+Fat 32.
+Device size 4.3 gigabyte.
+Space use 2.9 gigabytes.
+Free space 1.4.
+It's about done backing that up.
+So it says it's a data block progress 100%.
+Total block process 100%.
+So clone successfully.
+So now I think we're about, yep.
+Now we've jumped to FDA three, which is the main partition.
+Device size 110.9 gigabytes.
+Space use 33.2 gigabytes.
+Free space 77.7 gigabytes.
+Let's see.
+Just remaining time.
+It says about five minutes.
+Alrighty.
+Well, I will do a pause here in the recording and come back once it's done doing the A.
+I may let you listen to my voice.
+Drone on about it backing up.
+FDA.
+RSD.
+B drive.
+There's only one partition.
+Well, it's a terrified drive.
+I think it's about half full.
+So that one's probably going to take a while too.
+But anyways, I'll be back in a little bit.
+Thank you.
+Okay.
+So now it's finished making the backup of all the different partitions on the A drive
+and is in the process of doing the check to make sure that they are restorable.
+It zipped through the first two partitions pretty quickly.
+And now we're about 35, 36 percent through the main partition.
+So I'm guessing it's going to be another minute or two to get through that.
+And then I will go on to make a backup of the secondary drive.
+Okay, that was pretty quick.
+I only took a couple minutes forward to check that second partition.
+I now have a screen.
+Where are we?
+It says the image of this partition is restoreable.
+FDA 3.
+All the images of the partition are obvious in this image were checked and they are restoreable.
+So that is good to know.
+This gives you some information about the different disks.
+Mounted bit block with snap sounds, unmounting it.
+Stay in this console or under command line prompt or an exit.
+When everything is done, remember to use power off reboot or follow the menu to do a normal power off reboot procedure.
+Otherwise, if the boot media you are using is a readable disk, such as USB flash,
+drive, and it's mounted.
+Power off a reboot and I'm normal procedure.
+Might make it fail to boot next time.
+So I'm going to go ahead and enter.
+Now I'm back to the menu where I can do things.
+I am going to go back in and actually they have...
+So here are the options for the menu.
+Power off reboot command and to the command line prompt, which I guess had I taken a picture of that,
+other than I could have modified it to just run this on the next one.
+But, 3-1-1, start over.
+Image repository, home partition.
+If now this will be unmounted.
+Re-run 2, start over, keep image repository, home part image mounted.
+So you run 3, start over, remount, subter, and medium of current repository.
+Device SD2.
+I kind of think I want to do it number 3, because it sounds like it will remount the subter.
+I think I'm going to go with 3-1-2 and just walk through the steps.
+So, start cleanse is not enter command shell.
+Start cleanse illa.
+Local.
+So I'm back to the pick the local device.
+Before cloning you have to assign where cleanse illa image will be saved.
+Use existing, yep, so that's what I want.
+So I can skip and use existing home part image.
+Before cloning you have to assign where the cleanse illa image will be.
+I thought I did that.
+Oh, my hit enter.
+I didn't hit tab.
+Well, no, we did go down to the bottom.
+Sorry, I didn't see it.
+So just telling you, let's see existing.
+LSC skip.
+Device SD2 enter.
+Okay, so now we're at the...
+I think we're picking...
+We're back at that begin the inter...
+The beginner mode menu.
+Save local disk as image.
+Just what I want to do.
+Now I'm going to name this one dash SDB.
+It okay.
+Now it's I think going through to find this again.
+Now I can pick which disk I want to back up.
+So now I'm going down and picking SDB.
+It okay.
+I'm going to use the compression I did the last time.
+Okay.
+I can skip the checks.
+Yes, check the saved image.
+I do want to check the saved image.
+We're not encrypting.
+I think we can just power off it.
+Well, let me do choose.
+Just so I can read what it says afterwards.
+All right, choose.
+Okay.
+I'll give you the command again if I wanted to run this from the command line.
+Press Enter.
+Getting things ready again.
+Yes, I do want to save that image to there with that name.
+Shooting down.
+Okay, so now it's starting the clone to the vice.
+I think this is where it calculates the size.
+Like the it blocks used and blocks unused.
+Right now we're at 40.6, 44%.
+We're scrolling along.
+57, 61, 65.
+I may edit some of this.
+78, 82, 86, 91, 95% done that.
+100%.
+Okay.
+So now we are giving you the part clone, starting to clone the device.
+DB1, file size 1.1 terabytes, spacing use 750 gigabytes, free space, 299 gigabytes.
+So remaining one hour and 40 minutes before this is done backing up.
+I don't think I have one hour and 40 minutes of dead air to record on my phone anyway.
+I will be back in a little while.
+Alright, so after about an hour and 51 minutes, it is now switched over to the process of verifying that the image is good.
+Let's see, you got the vice size 1.1 terabytes, spacing use 751 gigabytes, free space, 229 gigabytes, block size, 400, 496 bytes.
+It's estimating it's going to take about an hour and 10 minutes to check it.
+Current rate is 10.5 gigabytes per minute and it tells you what block it's on.
+Looks like things are proceeding smoothly.
+I'll be back once it's finished verifying the backup.
+Okay, so after about 50 minutes and a nice little nap in my hammock, it looks like it's finished successfully.
+And it is checked and the image is restored.
+So now it says press Enter to continue.
+This takes us back to the menu to power off or reboot.
+So let me reboot.
+I want to, I'm going to see if I can't remember, but I think I can actually mount the images back.
+I'm going to go back into my regular OS and just verify that I can see some files.
+Just to make sure before I start on the process, which I think my hard drive is restoring the operating system.
+So I'm waiting for it to reboot.
+Oh, did it just power off?
+Is it actually rebooting?
+Oh, there it comes.
+Alright, so now it's popped back into start screen.
+Oh, let me get set up and see where we are.
+So a little more time has passed than I planned.
+It's now October 29th and I think my last recording was on 3rd.
+And I recorded it and probably a couple weeks later till I actually started putting this all together.
+But anyway, I didn't actually mount Clingzilla.
+I forgot when Clingzilla because it just saves the data on the disk.
+It basically creates a bunch of like four gigabytes char, something like that.
+So there are tools I think that lets you go ahead and like create an image and then mount it.
+But I really needed at the time to get my laptop running again.
+So I just verified that I saw what looks like data on the disk.
+Like as it would be saved by Clingzilla and decided that was safe enough.
+I haven't yet restored.
+Hopefully that will be another episode where I actually restore my 128GB USB drive back.
+Put the data back on it just to double check.
+But I trusted this process enough that I did reinstall my operating system.
+I will say overall Clingzilla is very nice to use.
+The interface is easy to grasp.
+And it does what it claims to do.
+So if you're in a position where you want to do a backup of a whole hard drive, that's a great tool to use.
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