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Episode: 3543
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Title: HPR3543: Idle thoughts on web browsers
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Source: https://hub.hackerpublicradio.org/ccdn.php?filename=/eps/hpr3543/hpr3543.mp3
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Transcribed: 2025-10-25 01:12:06
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This is Hacker Public Radio Episode 3543 for Wednesday 2 March 2022.
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Today's show is entitled, Idol Thoughts on Web Browsers, It is hosted by D&D and is about
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eight minutes long and carries an explicit flag, the summaries and a call for Euro on the same.
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Hello and welcome to another exciting episode of Hacker Public Radio. This is D&D.
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A while ago there was a podcast episode from the company I buy a green coffee from which is called
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Sweet Maria's and their staff basically sent each other voice messages on something like
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iMessage or whatever it was and then they basically just downloaded those voice messages and put
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them together into a podcast episode and the theme they were talking about was how they each made
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coffee at home. I thought it made for a really interesting episode because it was just super
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informal and we heard lots of different voices and since there wasn't like a single point being
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driven you could really well kind of form your own thoughts about it which I think is really cool.
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So I thought I might propose something similar here and the way I thought it could be done is
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I could create a matrix channel and then I'll give you the name of that matrix channel here at the end
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and then anybody who wants to participate just goes on that channel and then drops in a voice message,
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records a voice message on their matrix client you know I don't know maybe it'll be a flop because
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maybe then the theme the topic that I picked isn't all that interesting to a lot of people but
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maybe a few people will respond then I'll go in and I'll pick up those voice messages say after a
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couple weeks I don't know then I'll put together an episode after that.
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The topic that I meant to talk about here is web browsers this was something that I recorded a
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few weeks ago or maybe a few months ago when I had just stopped using web browser that's called
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cube browser Q-U-T-E and I stopped using that and started using Firefox, Firefox with the extension
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that's called Tridacto which gives you the VIM inspired bindings I should say that you're used to
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if you use cube browser and if you're one of those VIM people that want everything to have
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been binding bindings Tridacto is pretty good I think in a lot of ways it's even though it's an
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extension it is better than cube browser in some ways the user experience at the end of the day
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is a little better I think but you know it just sucks that it's an it's an extension and there are
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things there that Firefox is bound to take away at work I tried using cube browser for a bit
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and it would just crash sometimes so I gave up but I used it for for a little while and then I
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used that user chrome dot css file to remove some of the UI elements from Firefox that are useless to
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me and then that makes it a lot better and then with the Tridacto app I can scroll up and down
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with the JNK keys and I can do the F to show the link hints those are things that I like to use
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when browsing to me it makes it it can make some tasks faster at work that's for sure
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now about the user interface thing with Firefox the reason it's important to remove some of
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those UI elements is because you know that like if you're on the big screen sure it's fine
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most of the time it's fine so I'm talking about JIRA specifically at work I have to use JIRA
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sometimes now well kind of a lot of times so then you the way I do it is I have a query that's
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quite long that shows me the issues that I want to work on next in the order and that I want to
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work them in right now that line that query takes up like three lines in the the advanced search field
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and you can't hide those you can hide that field so then consider that wasted hide plus the
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browser user interface the browser chrome as they say and yeah there's not a lot of space left
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for the actual issue that I'm supposed to be working on especially if I'm using just the laptop screen
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and if you if you do work in JIRA you may know that the JIRA work is the kind of work that you
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really want to do from the sofa you don't want to be at your desk to do that kind of thing right
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but you know everyone's in a while I do wish I would go back to using cute browser because
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it's just so much more just it's the kind of browser that I would use if I had a real choice you
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know that's there's no doubt that I would use cute browser if there were a real choice so I think
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back to an episode here on hacker public radio a while back where some guy on the internet was saying
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that he um thought we should use Firefox and he makes a very good point you know like he says
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because Firefox is our browser but it's I may be you would say that it's the closest thing to
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our browser that is still considered a standard browser now this week you look at
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on hacker news something came out about how people went Mozilla were working together with people
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at Facebook on some kind of solution for how Facebook can continue with their ad-based model
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in some way that you know appease this people like if Facebook is at the table then you know
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the solution is going to be acceptable to them and you know that they are not in the business
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of your your freedom or your well-being they're not in the business of society or the commons or
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any of that stuff so it does kind of suck that Facebook that Mozilla is involved in this but you
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know I am a realist I understand and I applaud them for what they do for still being added
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in much the same way I applaud the people who make known for example I use no one one of my
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computers and I don't love it but you know I see that it's very good that someone out there
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is making that I think it's probably a common thing that we when it comes to web browsing we
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use software that we really wish we didn't have to use I think that's true for a lot of people
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so my question is is it true for you have you switched browsers in the past that you remember
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tell us why you didn't you know and how did it work out for you and if you have any thoughts on
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browsers that you want to share then please do so the the matrix channel I created is thoughts
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on browsers colon matrix dot org and yeah you can just drop in and record your voice message and
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leave or stay you can listen to other people's messages and while you're there go ahead and
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join the heck of public radio room as well sometimes there's some conversation there and you may
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add to it thanks for tuning in tuning in again tomorrow for a mystery episode by a mystery
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contributor as yet not posted and then on Friday we'll hear from Archer 72 on how he makes coffee
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can't miss that one bye bye
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