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Episode: 3670
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Title: HPR3670: Changing Plans
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Source: https://hub.hackerpublicradio.org/ccdn.php?filename=/eps/hpr3670/hpr3670.mp3
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Transcribed: 2025-10-25 03:20:31
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This is Hacker Public Radio Episode 3670 for Friday the 26th of August 2022.
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Today's show is entitled Changing Plans.
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It is part of the series Travel.
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It is hosted by Aoka and is about 16 minutes long.
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It carries a clean flag.
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The summary is.
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We look at some potential COVID-19 issues and consider alternatives.
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Hello, this is Aoka, welcome you to Hacker Public Radio and another exciting episode
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in our ongoing series about our RV trip.
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We're still on the planning stuff.
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What I want to do today is talk about what happens when your plans change.
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No matter how you plan things, life happens while you're making other plans.
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You have to be flexible.
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As we were planning our trip, we were planning it in the summer of 2021.
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We noticed a big problem.
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Our two top destinations were the Kennedy Space Center and the Johnson Space Center,
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and they would be packed with people.
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And they are in two of the worst states for the Delta variant of COVID-19, Florida in Texas.
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That is when we decided to put the NASA trip on hold at this time.
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But we have all of the planning we did saved in our Google Drive, so it isn't wasted.
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Maybe in 2023, we can try again.
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But then what do we do in 2022?
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Well, one of the big reasons for planning a winter trip is to get away from the cold winters in Michigan.
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We moved out here in 1981, so I could go to graduate school at the University of Michigan.
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And Michigan winters do tend to get kind of cold, to say the least.
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And I had made my wife a promise that, you know, hey, when we retire, we'll go someplace warmer.
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And we had looked at actually moving out of Michigan.
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And the more we looked, the more we realized we like where we live for like nine months out of the year.
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And then it's the other three months we want to get away.
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And that's a very common thing around here.
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And so we decided, well, maybe what we need to do is become snowbirds.
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So, if we want to get away from the cold in 2022, what do we do?
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Now there's basically two ways to get warm.
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One is the southwest and the other is Florida.
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Now, Varty said, we do not want to go to Florida at this time because we don't think it's safe.
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So that left the southwest.
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Now we did a trip out that way in 2017, as I mentioned in a previous episode.
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When we took our niece along and visited the Grand Canyon and some of the Utah parks before going into Colorado.
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Still a lot of stuff we didn't get to see and we'd love to check it out.
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So, step one was compile some data on average temperatures.
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So we know which places are most likely to be warm in January or February.
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And again, a Google sheet was the optimal solution for this.
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So, there'll be a link in the show notes to my web page, which has a picture of the sheet that we did.
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You can take a look at it and it lists the name of the city, the name of the state, the highs and the lows for January, February and March.
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And there's about 20 cities listed here, 20 locations.
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Now, getting it was pretty easy.
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You just do a search for average January temperature in and then put in the name of the city.
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So, for instance, average January temperature in Las Vegas, Nevada.
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We put that in.
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The Google result that comes back always brings the three months January, February and March.
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So, you know, populating this whole spreadsheet probably didn't take much longer than about 25 minutes.
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For Las Vegas, for instance, the January high is 59, the lowest 28.
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The February high is 66, and the lowest 33.
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The March high is 72, and the lowest 39.
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Now, these are averages.
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You know, your mileage may vary and all of that.
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So, again, we did this for places, you know, Nevada, New Mexico, Arizona, Utah, California.
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And see, you know, what we had to work with.
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Well, the first thing we noticed is that the Utah parks are all pretty cold.
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Zion, Bryce and Mollab, where the three we looked at, in January, the high in Zion is 46.
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And it gets all the way up to 51 in February and 58 in March.
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But, you know, it's not shirt-sleeved weather anywhere.
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Bryce Canyon is even colder and so on.
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Decided that, you know, maybe Utah is not a place to go in the winter.
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Now, that's not surprising, really, because elevation plays a big role.
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And all of Utah is on the Colorado Plateau.
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So, it probably averages something like 10,000 feet or 3 kilometers above sea level.
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And Utah does have a reputation for winter sports.
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It hosted the Winter Olympics in 2002 and has slated the host them again in 2030.
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So, that's probably not a good option here.
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Three of the places in New Mexico are in the mountains and are fairly cold.
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Albuquerque, Santa Fe, and Taos.
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They're in northern New Mexico and they're in the Rocky Mountains, basically.
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But, Las Cruces, which is in the southern part of the state near Mexico,
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looks like a decent possibility here.
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The best, though, was Arizona and Southern California.
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Yuma in Arizona has an average high in January of 71 degrees.
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The equivalent of 22 Celsius.
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And most of the rest of Arizona looks good with the exception of Flagstaff, which is in the mountains.
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Again, elevation is something you have to take into account on these things.
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Southern California looks pretty temperate for winter temperatures.
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You know, San Diego, January high of 66, Los Angeles, January high of 68, Death Valley, January high of 67.
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You know, not too bad.
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So, if we want to go there, is there anything we want to see on the way?
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Well, this is where that map that we made earlier of all the U.S. national parks and monuments,
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and we took a look at places where temperatures were possibly in the 60s or above.
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Let's call it 18 or above in Celsius, offered an interesting possibility.
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I say, you know, Death Valley, we mentioned, is a national park.
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It's well worth visiting, and winter is probably the best possible time to do it.
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Because if you go there in the summer, you will die.
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It is so hot.
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But in the winter, it can be shirt sleeves weather if you pick the right day, or at worst, a very light coat.
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Okay.
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Well, it does have an RV park, but it's all dry camping no hookups.
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But we started looking at things not too far away, and right over the border in Perump, Nevada,
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there are several likely RV camps with full hookups.
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And then, you know, if we were staying at one of those parks, what other things might we do other than Death Valley?
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Well, there are several things. There are some very nice parks in Nevada.
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Las Vegas is only about an hour away.
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So we set that as our first major stop.
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Now, in the previous lesson, I did an example of how to plan a trip just using Google Maps.
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This time, I'm going to use RV Trip Wizard.
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It's an app that comes bundled in the RV life-paid membership.
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Now, I want to get used to it because a lot of the RVers I follow on YouTube and in newsletters recommended highly,
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and it does seem like it has a lot of features.
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For instance, Google Maps does not have any settings for RVs that let you check height and weight limitations.
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High is the biggest one.
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And my RV is 13 foot or about 4 meters tall.
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And it's not going to survive an encounter with a 12 foot or three and two thirds meters high bridge.
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Now, RV Trip Wizard is available as an app for smartphones and tablets, as well as a website.
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For ease of use, I am doing the planning on the website.
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Since that lets me use my large 32 inch or 81 centimeter diagonal screen.
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So, I went to the site at RV Trip Wizard and linked in the show notes, logged in and got to work.
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You've got a three-pain view when you're on the website on a computer.
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The left pane is the trip details, the middle is the map, and the right is the research pane.
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Now, step one is to click the new trip button in the upper left in the trip pane and then enter your starting location,
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which for us is our home in Michigan.
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Then click on the wrench icon in the trip pane and select trip settings.
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Here you can enter the height, length, and weight of your RV, and you can also enter truck information for your tow vehicle.
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Then in the routing and driving, you can set how you want your route done.
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You can avoid tolls, avoid unpaved roads, and so on.
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Then I made settings for how much driving I would allow.
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I set mine to 60 miles per hour, that's about 96 kilometers per hour, because speed is how most RVs get into trouble.
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I have a good cruise control in this truck and I plan to use it.
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I'll just stay in the slow lane as much as possible.
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By the way, if I need to pull out and pass, my freight planer truck will do it as long as the grade isn't too bad.
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I then set my max driving time each day for five hours and a maximum of 300 miles, which is about 483 kilometers.
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Now, telling a big trailer where the big truck is tiring and you need to be alert the whole time.
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Bear in mind that these settings are for planning purposes and you can always override them.
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But what they will do is draw a circle on the map that you can use for planning.
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Now, the center pane is the map display and it looks like they get the mapping from Google.
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I just had to zoom out until my planning circle showed up.
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It's a flag in the center where we live and from this I can see that we could, for instance, comfortably drive to Toronto in a day.
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But going north into Canada was not the objective. Still, it's nice to know.
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Instead, I'm looking at Indiana and Kentucky.
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The other icons are all, and there's a bunch of them on. It's a crowded map with this.
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They're icons of RV parks.
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And if you zoom in, even more will appear.
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And it can get confusing, but in the right pane, you can refine this.
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Click map settings and a pop-up window will open.
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In this, I have turned on the button for show campgrounds.
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But on the right pane, I can refine this in the Parks tab.
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I can narrow this down by park type, such as commercial private parks versus state or national parks.
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Park rating.
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RV life also has a campground reviews app, which I think is the source of this.
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So it does other campers evaluating each park.
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Park features.
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Our pet's allowed.
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Is there access for big rigs?
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Are as is considered a big rig.
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Hookups.
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Amenities, such as restrooms, laundry rooms, showers.
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Pricing.
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Recreation.
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Do they have pools?
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Recreation trails.
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Maybe.
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Shuffle ball or whatever.
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Shuffle board.
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And finally, brands, clubs and memberships.
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Now, you can decide which of these matter to you.
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In our case, we mostly want hookups.
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We want park features for our big rig access and memberships for the portion of the trip where we're driving every day to get to our remote destination.
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Now, at any time, you can change these settings.
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So when you get to the first long stop where you will spend a week or two, you can start looking at other factors like rating and price.
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The technique is that you zoom in and then select your filters.
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As we saw last time, Terahote, Indiana was a reasonable one day drive from our home.
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So I centered the map on Terahote and zoomed in.
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Now, you'll know you'll have zoomed in enough when you can start adding filters.
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They will show in red on the bottom of the right pane.
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As I add filters, of course, the options start to be fewer.
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I filtered on big rig access and full hookups and saw about a half dozen options in the Terahote area.
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At this point, you can click on each of the campground icons and get more details.
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There is one in Terahote that is pretty highly rated, but it's also more expensive.
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But since we're only going to stay the night and drive off in the morning, we don't need much.
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This is just a one night stop on our mammoth journey to get out to the west and get started on the real fun.
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Now, there were no passport America campground shown.
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There is a good Sam, and we have that membership as well.
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I clicked on the icon, then clicked on Add to Trip, and now it's my first stop.
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Looking at the trip pane on the left, it is now the number two entry after our starting location.
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And it tells me we will drive 311 miles, and it should take 5 hours and 10 minutes of driving.
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And a bonus is that the park appears to have a pull-through site available, which means we can pull in and just hook up without removing the truck from the RV.
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And that means we can hit the road very quickly in the morning.
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Now, at this point, I just clicked on the center button in the campground pop-up window, and now I have a new circle centered on this campground.
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So I'm ready to see what the next day is going to take a look at.
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So, we can start planning for that day two, our mammoth journey to Perump Nevada, and we'll pick this up in the next episode.
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But for now, this is Ahuka signing off, and I was always encouraging you to support FreeSoftware.
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Bye-bye!
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