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Episode: 3696
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Title: HPR3696: HPR Community News for September 2022
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Source: https://hub.hackerpublicradio.org/ccdn.php?filename=/eps/hpr3696/hpr3696.mp3
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Transcribed: 2025-10-25 04:14:43
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This is Hacker Public Radio Episode 3696 from Monday the 3rd of October 2022.
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Today's show is entitled HPR Community News for September 2022.
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It is part of the series HPR Community News.
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It is hosted by HPR Volunteers and is about 55 minutes long.
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It carries an explicit flag. The summary is HPR Volunteers talk about
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shows released and comments posted in September 2022.
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Hi everybody, my name is Ken Fallon and you're listening to another episode of Hacker Public Radio.
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This is the Community News for September 2022.
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And joining me this morning is...
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Yeah, morning A. Wow, this is Dave Morris.
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So, normally we record this on Saturday afternoon,
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but switch the casual scheduling change to do with my son's birthday.
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This is HPR, which is a community podcast where the shows are contributed by listeners very much like you.
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In fact, by listeners like you.
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We could do with listeners submitting shows, especially if you're a new host,
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because I've noticed recently that the majority of shows have been submitted by the same people over and over again.
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So, it would be fantastic if some of the people who listen to this show,
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who have never contributed to the show, would do that.
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Or if you haven't contributed to the show this year, that you would also do that.
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What you're listening to now is the Community News,
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which is a look inside what's been happening on the HPR community.
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And the first thing we do, Dave, is introduce all the new hosts that have arrived this month.
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This, this past number of, unfortunately, zero.
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So, yeah, not, not so good this month.
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I'm not hungry Dave, I'm just very disappointed.
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Let's mosey in, have a look at the shows that were posted last month.
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Speaking of which, the very first show was an emergency show.
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This was entered into the queue back in 2012.
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And it was put in there by Klatu, it's entitled Mod,
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which doesn't mean Mod, I guess.
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Multi-user dungeon.
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That's the one.
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That's it, that's it.
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Yep, yep, good.
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It was, it was pretty timeless.
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I thought you wouldn't have known that it was 10 years old.
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I'd been sat there.
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Yeah, it's good.
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So that means actually we also have a hole in the emergency.
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We have on the show in the reserve queue.
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So if people have reserve shows, can they please just pull some and add a note
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to the reserve show for now?
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I'm working on a way to do that during upload.
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But oddly enough, I would like more experience with what people are sending in
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in order to be able to do that.
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So the following day, we had a show from binrc,
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which was plan 9, an exercise in futility.
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And plan 9 is a operation system experiment, I guess.
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And the show notes are spectacular.
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This guy produces some amazing show notes.
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I have to say, yes, yes.
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Very good.
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It's a fascinating thing.
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It's one thing I want personally to be running.
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But it's really interesting to hear about it.
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And what people, you know, sort of ideas that have gone into it.
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Interesting.
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And the name itself comes from plan 9 from outer space.
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It does, yeah, yeah.
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It's something I've ever seen.
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I saw some stills of it.
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And it looks quite amateur.
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I think it's one of the classic beam movies out there.
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Yes, yes, yes.
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I've also seen clips from it or something.
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But yeah, nothing that drove me to go and watch the whole thing.
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So lots of comments on this one.
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One of Spoon says,
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a direct directive gem.
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A useful exposition and inspiration.
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Practically a reference piece.
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I actually said,
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Claudio M says,
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plan 9 slash 9 p.
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Great episode from BNIC and bonus points
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of explaining where his handle came from.
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Which is a nice thing to have by the way.
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Always been curious about plan 9.
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I remember tinkering with inferno back in the day,
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late 90s, early 2000s.
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It was quite intriguing.
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Since then, I've never really touched it.
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Been curious about it.
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However, after hearing this episode,
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I felt I might be,
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it might be relegated to the curiosity
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one would have for tempo OS.
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And intriguing to mess with.
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But that's about it.
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Anyway, for those interested,
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SDF has bootcamps on learning plan 9.
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More information here
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and it gives a link to the SDF site.
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Excellent.
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Norris says,
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an in-depth series on learning awk.
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You mentioned you want to learn awk.
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This series is some of the best content on HSPR.
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Brace yourself for a deep dive by Dave Morris
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and be easy.
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And I wholeheartedly support that statement.
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I must turn that into a book at some point.
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Once I finish the said one,
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I'll get there.
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We'll get there.
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I certainly will.
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Ken says, you're going to do Ken's.
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Yeah, it's not me.
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Right, I just saw your name there.
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And it is not Ken Pallem.
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You're so smart and you understand everything.
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Sure. Sure.
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Which I wholeheartedly agree.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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Passable by cents fake news.
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There's no vulnerability in the authentication system.
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Just a path transversal
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which has been exploited,
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you're called,
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to read files already publicly accessible,
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accessible for child overhead the rest.
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And then it's a show coming.
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I think this month which goes into this
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a little bit more depth.
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And it's a classic
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journalists going nuts over something,
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which is entirely trivial.
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Happened in the early days of
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when I was working in MIT.
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We had that sort of stuff.
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Yeah.
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Right.
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So, from think tank work spaces,
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he says, come back to plan nine and try to stay.
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It's always a learning curve,
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even for me.
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I started to make better progress
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when I decided to build a server
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on line at a linode
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and really use it.
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Work was a dream come true
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and it simplified all B.S.
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It exists in other heavily bloated
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C.M.F systems.
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J.S. is garbage,
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but it's not going away.
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You can just use mothra.
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If you're staying plan nine,
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things get easier.
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Do get easier over time.
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You passed. New pass was a struggle.
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But I'm a better person for leaving Gmail.
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Go-along works on my server
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and helps bridge that gap when I actually
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have to work on Linux
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on my day job.
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But yes, see is the way to go,
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but a ton of stuff is written in RC.
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Take your pick I guess.
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Thanks for putting this together.
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an excellent show. So the next day we had the community news and we also had
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nine comments, yeah, people were. Archer 72 says, good show, I made it to the end.
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Thanks for another great community show. I did make it to the end, although I
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admit to downloading a listening dish to the show at 2x after the mailing this
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discussion will start it. By the way, Ken, I do not skip your shows. Yes, sure.
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Yes, I've forgotten we'd sort of put a challenge to say, if you manage to get
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to the end of this then let us know. I think you did. So we have nine listeners that
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is what we could assume. Yeah, that's right. That's right. Claudio M says,
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another one made it to the end. Admit the list without the 72 making it to the
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end. Great show. Well as far as the Archer 72, but I do listen at 1.5 times
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feet. I always look forward to Ken over enthusiastically shouting radio at the
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end of community show. It's worth listening to all of it smiley face over
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enthusiastic. Are we not all that enthusiastic about his viewers? That could be
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anything else. Michael Ray says, ally, ALLY and abbreviation. Congratulations on
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spending love. We're talking about accessibility than every other podcast put
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together ever. Anyway, back to the notes. I give up trying to get podcasts like
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destination, then it's to include ally components, ALLY, 11Y, components when
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they do review, when they review a distro. All I ever want to know is whether you
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can install it or not. After no one of you prototype dependence, photon type
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dependence, would give a house room to a distro. If you had to run around looking
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for a blind person to install for you, that will point. And now we're worried
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about abbreviations. Good. The abbreviations A11Y is similar to I1A's N
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International Nationalization. Replace the central letters with the number of
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letters moved and leave the first and last letter. ALLY is pronounced ALLY 11Y.
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Not ALLY. Okay. ALLY 11Y. How is that? So I'm wondering how that A is a good
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abbreviation, and B has only thing to do with accessibility. Here, 11Y. It's
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somebody's idea of shorthand for long words. It's my interpretation. I'm
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guessing. I'm not looking this up. But the number of words that will have an
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out the beginning and a Y at the end and 11 letters in between must be more
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than accessibility. So how is that improving anything at all? I just
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I don't know. It's people wanting not to have to talk long, long words on
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phones, I imagine. Did you get lost? Hello? What's... Did you go? No idea. I forgot
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the passport to talk, dude. Yes. Where was I? You were on the sentence
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exception to this is K8S. Okay, back to the comments. Exception to this is K8S, a
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common abbreviation for Kubernetes, which allows a folks pronounce K8s. I will
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see if there is a way of recording a show and including the audio from my
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screen reader in order to demo some of what we have to cope with. If the sound
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of a screen reader would not drive the whole audience into madness, end of
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content. Absolutely. I'm a lot of the process of trying to help Mike with his
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accessibility issue was not fully understanding what his problem was and it
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was only by fiddling with Orca that I got some clue or not enough of a
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clue to understand it. But yeah, that would be wonderful. From my point of view
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anyway. Okay, next comment. Operator says, I made it, exclamation mark, I made it
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to the end. Much better than trying to figure out API for real links. I don't
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have to install their app. So you found our show was better than what he was
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supposed to be doing. Very good. Forky said, did make it too high. I didn't
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make it to the end of the show no problem. Only about hours. That's nothing.
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I think I have to state once more my stance on the Linux in those questions.
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Yes, I don't like the show, but that's not why I agree with all thinking they
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should take this step over to Ark of the org. It's just that they overstayed
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their startup time in HPR. I wish them all good and maybe we should give them
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less help by adding a link to their own errors as soon as it's up. And all
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shows they hear they had here to make it easier for their listeners to find
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them. End of comment. And yes, absolutely. We're doing that. Yeah. Brian
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in Ohio says, the show great show is always the table of shows in the show notes
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is useful. Thanks. Norris says, public access to the HPR site
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generator required an auth code for contributions is understandable. It would
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be easier to automatically site build if there was an unauthenticated option
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for checking out the code. I like Ron suggesting of a public getmer. Another
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option would be to create a jelly archive of the code that can be downloaded
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from the HPR site similar to the S2L dumps. Cool. Miguel comment number eight
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says, I made it double exclamation mark. Yes, I made it the end. It's quite a good
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episode. Sorry for the in-laws. It made it, it made for a very interesting
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conversation. I've been thinking about subjects for a show, but I feel stuck
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with the fact that I live with limited resources. May you be interested in
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tech stories from the third world. Yes. Oh my God. Yes. Yes, please. Yes, please.
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That would be absolutely. Absolutely. Anyway, stash a F says,
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matters. I made it to the end. You underestimate my ability to listen to
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people for a long period of time. No, that's why we're here. So a new
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show part four. And at the end of that, filibuster says filibuster 80% of this
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three hour spectacular is one person dominating the conversation. The other
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20% in vain attends for everyone else to join. Not mad, just impressed. Yes. I
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have had a word with the person in question. And yeah, it was noted. So
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they're also. Yeah, it's also very difficult for that person. And it's on
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the getting a little bit of outside help on that one. So next year will be
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more supervised. I can assure you. Yeah, I wrote down a little bit hard to
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listen to because of all the overtalking and stuff. But on the whole,
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I haven't really enjoyed this native. It's the conversation. I think I did
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point it out to the person that they may have come across as rude. And that was
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absolutely not the intention. So apologies to everybody sausage with that. If
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it came across as being rude and that wasn't the intention, it was just hyper
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excited to be talking about stuff. Yeah. Anyway, the next day we had stupid
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users, no, not those users, the other stupid users. And some guy on the internet
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says stupid equals no backups success. In the last step, you can make an
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a flight of stairs called failure. And you're like me, you'll take one more
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tiny step than fall. Your call host is correct backups for the win. I do stupid
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things often on my system. And when the mistakes seem to cost more than two
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hours of my time, nuke the system and then run pave.sh to restore my from backups.
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My stay away has more steps than I'm allowed to know. So it'll be on my way.
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Thanks for the show. Nice. Lurking Prion says no backups. The lack of
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preparation for failure is the failure to be prepared. I agree that we all fail.
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In security, we blame the user for our failure to be prepared for that
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eventuality. Failing at home is expected as we are one person. In an enterprise,
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there's a team preparing for this. The problem is that preparation requires time
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and money, which are more often than not denied as a business decision. There's
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a lot more on this topic coming in future. Glad to enjoy the show.
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Excellent. Lurking Prion also said not a podcast. This is a preemptive strike as I
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don't know what I don't want to be the next. The next thing I'll say is the
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shows I'm posting are not podcast. This is the next show. And this and the next
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show have enjoyed the no tools. I'm a load of a long time ago and I wanted to
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try different things. So forgive the apparent hubris and accept my apologies if
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anyone was offended by this. It's just hacking the format. Some guy on the internet
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says you're fine. Reference preemptive strike. I know recent events have raised
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some questions but there's no need to be concerned. Just remember to say I use
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arch by the way before starting the show. I talk about doing everything in the
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terminal. Toss in a window manager. Be spawned because it sounds cool and quick
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mention of them, then you're all good. Once a host had to go into hiding for
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speaking ill of the mighty think pad but they're safe now.
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Lurking Prion's comment there was prompted by an email that I sent asking for
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clarification because with the with the limits in the last thing. Yeah it's
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hard for me to tell whether a show is a show or whatever. So I don't want to
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leave anybody in the lurch that we have a repeat of this thing. Remember I'm
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super least hacker radio or was that that's a sick foot pad? Oh yeah yeah that
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turned out to be not a thing at all. So it's not always clear what people's
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intentions are. So I'm glad Lurking Prion is here and I do like his shows and
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yeah good. Not that my liking a show is a requirement to be on HPR just as
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by the way. And the following show was Linux in laws. Episode 64 non-profits in
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the US closely look at 5013 C's and I've had the free software podcast to
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show about this at one point as well. So that was good if you're if you're
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working familiar with the topic. I get confused about whether it's 3C or C3
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I have to really stare at it hard to work out what it is. My brain mangled it
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unfortunately. So the next day we had Edith. Oh the amount of time I spent on
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like Amanda's a lot. Happy day is hey. Not so much but yeah yeah you know it's
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fine. It did a lot. Getting curses sort of thing. So yeah. Never used it. I've never
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used it in my life. I used to avoid PCs like plague at that time. Yeah yeah it's not
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the main thing. No that's fine but as a simple text editor for what it is it was
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fine. You know it had like a window on that was F10 and a lot of the commands
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that are even used know. F1, F10 you know were included in that. So yeah most of
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the moment. Yeah it is a necessary step on the way to the journey that we're at the end
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of now or where we are now anyway. Yes. Following a Rust 101 black
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kernel teaches us how to make functions for loops in Rust. This was interesting. Not
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sure I'm, it kind of made more sense to me the whole rust thing but yeah I'm still not
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on the bandwidth. No I would have really appreciated some source code. Yeah yeah and I thought
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oh it's on the Github because this previous show I think referred to Github and then
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was stuff a repo and there was stuff there and it said updated for episode 3 but it didn't
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seem to bear any relation to the thing being talked about in the audio. So I got rather
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puzzled about that on my parade. Yeah I did stop this one to go in and see if there
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was, if there was source code for it I was in the garden so I just not that I needed
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a source to confirm that the vision of my head was the same. Well exactly yes I don't
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have a lot of skill at forming code in my head. In this sense something really detailed
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I can sort of think of block diagram-y type things but this was detail and I really needed
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something visual to, must mean I'm a visual learner or something I don't know about
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anyway it would have been really helpful. Yeah perhaps I can add that to the show it's
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never too late, never too late. That would be great yeah yeah just taking on board this
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comment but on the whole of a great show we enjoyed it. The New Year's show last one
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part five come up and one comment was just to thank Delwin for the servers Josh for providing
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the HPR site honky for doing streams and the etherpad and of course a HP and honky we
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should and editing the shows and submitting them. Absolutely a monumental amount of work
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and speaking of monumental amount of work, HP Lovecraft for the absolute excellent show
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I know I'm still astonished at the quality. I haven't listened to all of this one yet I
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listened to all the other show this month because time was a bit short and I'm just sort of
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part way through this one and looking through the list here some of the things being talked
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about and I was thinking oh yeah I don't know if you spelled she'll anyway and what was that
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and it's all it's all documented it's really really good. Yeah it's brilliant yeah the only thing
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in all the show notes was he had won IMDB reference to Parky was talking about the octinots the BBC
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children's program and on the in America apparently there was a American version so that was the only
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thing does the only mistake in not mistake oversize or that was kind of wouldn't have been obvious
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listen to the audio actually in the whole show notes that I felt I needed to edit is absolutely
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brilliant for. Well considering the volume of notes and the number of links that have been
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forward through then you know one mistake in that is pretty down good going I'd say there's a
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reason it came out in September yeah yeah oh I think everybody's got that message.
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So the following day was an episode that I did and it is something that I've used three times
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since then and shown all the people it's how to open OSM Android so it's an Android navigation
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map that uses offline open-street map data and it's actually very very very good thing and I
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have it on the all the kids phones that no matter where they are or you don't need a data connection
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in order to use this thing so it's even if you want to use Google Maps or your boss into the
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cloud this is no harm to have this on your phone in case the the mid and it's the mid and middle
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asteroid pressure would say. Yes yes oh it is useful I landed in Brussels my first time
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with this on my phone but I hadn't quite installed it right I said it out probably so it wasn't
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I had to go and get a paper map and find where the hell the hotel was but yeah yeah I have
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used this in in earnest it's it's pretty cool a bit clunky I'd say yeah yeah yeah yeah I don't
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go on with APIs sorry go on and that's exactly why I added this you know you would imagine that
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when you're doing navigation you could you should just be able to you know from I'm where you want to
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go that's easy you put in your address you know you how why is the nut like a button there just to go
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save save this destination you know why can't you just save this destination so the only way
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you can put in a saved location is to basically follow the show notes in the show and then add it
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but it the UI is improving over time I've noticed and another cool thing the event is public
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transport so if you arrive at spot and you see on the second picture there in Amsterdam I didn't
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even notice that when I was doing it but when I was doing it from my daughter who was going to
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Dublin and you can click on the bus line and it'll show you all the stops with lines in between
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the it doesn't it doesn't follow the route but it does you know kind of give you an idea of where it goes
|
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I'm really good actually yeah yeah yeah I'm not used it recently but I will it's still on my phone
|
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and there's it's actually quite good there's some neat things so now you can download the maps and
|
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you can schedule them to download every day or every week or every month at a particular time
|
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you know in the evening or in the morning or or whatever so you always have updated maps
|
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so that's kind of cool there are some I'm wasting an episode here shut up
|
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wake on that yes I didn't think I needed an episode on wake on land and turned out I did
|
||||
ah do tell well it's just a it's a it's something that I knew about it's a magic package I've
|
||||
read the Wikipedia article and he you see it yourself well it can't be that complicated kind of
|
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but he went through a lot of things and it is actually it was a great little show for just
|
||||
expanding my view on what the possibilities were for wake on land yeah yeah yeah no it's good to
|
||||
good to hear about I had I did know about it we used to use it at work I say we but the team
|
||||
looked after the PCs did to wake machines up in the middle of the night and upgrade them and stuff
|
||||
but yeah it's I didn't know exactly how it worked and and some of the problems and pitfalls
|
||||
and JWP covered covered a number of those that was interesting yeah cultural
|
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so the next day budges and an android app very very nice the zoolful spreadsheet I had
|
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not come across before no I don't know anything about that yeah it's um yeah it's it's it's a an
|
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interesting thing at the having processed these notes I was sort of a bit puzzled by some of the
|
||||
bits so follow them up have a see what they what they were about and yeah it's intriguing it was
|
||||
really a call for help I think more than anything else this show but I know there's a follow-up
|
||||
coming so we most intrigued to see how how the developments get on yeah exactly so this was a
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next show was follow-up on hatred for a three six seven five clarification on the Patrons
|
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version bug that was mentioned earlier and bin orc goes into a lot of detail describing how it works
|
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I thought this was a nice a show coming from a comment in a show yeah yeah dude who'd have thought
|
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well obviously somebody thought to use since the URL and then you put in dot dot slash only you
|
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early encode it so whatever's looking for that sort of nonsense doesn't spot it presumably
|
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and and you can back up to to areas on your website yeah remember fixing a windows
|
||||
anti-IS server back in the day that fell for this exact thing mm-hmm if you haven't fully secured
|
||||
your web server underneath and you might be able to get get to to naughty stuff I don't know
|
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I don't know yeah since I've managed a web server so maybe they they come come out of the box a
|
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bit more secure than that but still you don't want that to happen new new and then I was not
|
||||
correct the last new year show was the following show which was three six eight seven and then after
|
||||
that we had education certification and slipping on the socials sipping on the socials and this was
|
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another one from the lurking prior yeah interesting viewpoint in terms of
|
||||
what you need in a way of education and certification and stuff and and also your social media
|
||||
presence which which some somebody my age regards as me a pivot yeah it's but it's obviously a
|
||||
lot more important than I have any concept off yeah if you don't have it it looks suspicious now
|
||||
so yeah and I know in America a lot of companies require them to give you access
|
||||
to your private like to friend them so that they can see exactly what it is you're saying
|
||||
I think that's all over sipping on mark personally so the idea that your was to have two accounts
|
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one for you know your personal stuff and one for your professional presence which I think is fair
|
||||
off yeah good device around and I also used a tip in here which was a I am currently doing you know
|
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sign up for a course and then put that in on your on your resume and on your social websites you know
|
||||
studying Amazon web certification and then the web crawlers will find Amazon web certification
|
||||
and your your thing you you get picked so clever stuff yeah yeah yeah it's a it's a game and you
|
||||
need to know how to play it absolutely get your foot in the door after that it's it's all about
|
||||
what you can do the job or not but there's a lot of barriers to get you in there and I think this
|
||||
was the last Linux in laws season one episode 65 last on here and it was terminus DB and this
|
||||
was a database that I hadn't heard of actually before no me neither it yeah it's it's a no sequel
|
||||
database which no it's not an error no much about to be honest but yeah but yeah it's it was
|
||||
interesting to hear yeah yeah yeah yeah it's quite kind of specific to the large data sets and
|
||||
data rules and stuff that yeah and it's advantageous was that you you wouldn't need to
|
||||
rerun queries over stuff so I think yeah probably a niche that are a niche never never like
|
||||
those saying the word niche to me else because actually it comes from French so it should be pronounced
|
||||
niche it's niche it sounds like you've got some sort of disease from a bug or something yeah you don't
|
||||
have a niche yes where are we next year I think a trip yeah good general advice not necessarily
|
||||
related to you know the links and stuff are related to a hooker's travel trip but it is good advice
|
||||
and again when my daughter was gone turned on we went through the entire process modifying
|
||||
how we this how we that how we thought about this how we water the constraints what do we want to do
|
||||
so that all worked out quite well yeah yeah yeah it's um yeah it's interesting some of the places
|
||||
who can mention the sound absolutely wonderful so yeah yeah I'd like to be going as well but
|
||||
yes yes starship.rs the best prompt I don't use what is tattooed all about with this
|
||||
and it was a yeah a way you can customize your your prompt you know you've got a
|
||||
bash prompt or your monitor shell prompt in order to show useful information something I did
|
||||
for a period of time and then stop doing because uh because not that I found a annoying per se it's
|
||||
that when I SS Hed into all the machines then I didn't have that crutch and I missed it
|
||||
yeah yeah yeah I have been around the loop a few times with fiddling around with with my prompt
|
||||
and making it more or less complicated and I've got it at the point where it's minimal but it's a
|
||||
bit more than just a dollar sign but so I'm happy with it but I did try this I did install
|
||||
starship bars which is very impressive thing um and uh I found that it was telling me stuff that
|
||||
basically I didn't want to know but that's what that says in the in the show that the
|
||||
config file is very complicated and he's right that the documentation is massive and I found that
|
||||
it showed icons I said okay do the pearl one if I'm in a directory which has got
|
||||
a git repo with and a lot pearl in it no it's not the git thing it's the the presence of pearl uh
|
||||
then show me a little camel on the in the prompt which it did but then I've got why don't I don't
|
||||
want to see this I'm fed up with this it lasted a day I'd had enough of it so but it's very very
|
||||
clever but there are ways you could make it more friendly well I could make it more friendly to my
|
||||
way of doing things so but yeah most interesting to I never never knew about this so it was very
|
||||
interesting to know about it and play with it I worked in a place once where they had a mandatory
|
||||
bash prompt that everybody had to use and it was the most irritating thing in the world
|
||||
it's it's the ones that take an entire line that's it you you input is on the next line
|
||||
and which one that gets in the way you know if you just listed something you look back there's
|
||||
this bloody line in the way that's you know of course it's my my brain got worked I was that in
|
||||
that file I just listed oh it wasn't oh it's not exactly and text was just enough to fit into the
|
||||
pit into the page but because of that extra line the bit that you want to see is just
|
||||
bumped off the page invariably yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah I mean record record shows on your
|
||||
views on bash prompts should you use them should you not use them and if you do why what's a real
|
||||
hacker that can probably and I there are two two comments on this one right under high says
|
||||
cousin I have to I have to say that the American cowboy accent you cousin son what happened here
|
||||
you've never you've never done it before why are you using the F word so much does someone need a hug
|
||||
let's come in actually looking Brian says yes I probably need a hug sorry the old sailor and
|
||||
me slipped out I'm stuffing back in the cage right belongs smiley face excellent exit
|
||||
so perfect so mild mild complaint should we say and followed by the perfect answer yeah it is
|
||||
that's how we do things here in HBR folks insert sound rocking chair and a porch and somebody
|
||||
smoking a pipe okay and then just when you're nice and calm and quiet who comes out but
|
||||
wrong what is bloody law more I went over and sabotaged up the other night and guess what he does
|
||||
he fixes the thing yes yes it's I had never looked I've got a literal one on Moa and it has this
|
||||
dead man's handle type thing that you fall over then it shuts loose loose you grip and it stops
|
||||
by never looked at how it works um but yeah it's quite quite interesting I think that's a switch
|
||||
basically yeah just yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah but there you go that's fair enough I have a
|
||||
I got an outside or was this residual current detector I think which I'm very very happy with
|
||||
and I use this for when I'm on the lawn and when I'm using power tools outside so that would be my
|
||||
safety tip as well there are only 25 30 euros so it's well worth it yeah yeah I've actually got
|
||||
one installed in my garage two times yeah yeah the one in my garage is sort of fixed to the war
|
||||
but I was told by the electrician you should only have one I've got a master one but trouble is if
|
||||
you if you lawn mow overloads and it switches the entire house power yeah yeah so having a having a
|
||||
small one on the interview your extension cable might be a better move cool and the next day
|
||||
which was teresie that's teresie rule bull tripping river lords of the apocalypse organic synthesis
|
||||
of human and machine the corers post cosmic events by our good friend mecha tronny yak
|
||||
master comments on this one shall I start this one please it um one of spoon says inspirational
|
||||
artifice in in curly brackets good story convinced convincing consistent style and tone
|
||||
soundscape further imbues is seen with atmospheric oxides metallic and otherwise imagination is a
|
||||
cognitive facility combined with real world observation and practice it can save us from dull
|
||||
compliance and replication of deluded privilege Claudia um says great story really enjoyed the story
|
||||
and looking forward to hearing more on this and i say in my best father take actions i love this
|
||||
more of this type of thing i didn't get i yeah yeah yeah yeah very good mecha tronny access thanks
|
||||
thank you for the comments i probably won't do more like this for a while because of the ever-involve
|
||||
law this one has been on the burn for a long while but it relates to stuff i'll be talking about
|
||||
later on so presumably so i felt the need to get it out and brine and ohio says the show
|
||||
great episode whatever the interval keep them coming yeah it was it was most interesting i wasn't
|
||||
i was quite taken aback by this show is uh not what i was expecting so yeah enjoy it that's
|
||||
that's the type of show i like to do yeah just just one just one mild criticism though the sound
|
||||
balance between effects and and speech was such that my hearing which is broken we had very
|
||||
great difficulty working i want was being said at times so it's some just you know old people
|
||||
who're going deaf can't can't easily set the autopsils calm Dave what do you expect
|
||||
yeah true true yeah typically sin my ears yeah that's why i destroy the planners in the first bit
|
||||
okay hello yep the last show of the month was how i watch youtube with newsboard and this was by
|
||||
um minorsy obviously i i used your SS feeds for my surfing pleasure and he had some trouble
|
||||
releasing the urls that for the rsses feeds so i have a little script to do that i might make
|
||||
a show about it oh that would be good i actually tried this i uploaded i mean i downloaded
|
||||
newsboat and the other other bits and pieces recommended and tried it out yesterday in fact
|
||||
and finding the correct url or the the id effectively
|
||||
from the from the the channel name which uh vanity names as he puts it uh isn't easy without some
|
||||
help so i'd be most interested to open the thing i'll uh show about that i didn't think i was
|
||||
i allowed to show i didn't think it was um particularly sure worthy my my little script
|
||||
well it's it's better doesn't gripping it out and then hunting through the colored bits and
|
||||
cutting and pasting it which is what i was doing um no no i'll uh i'll do sure it's like literally a one
|
||||
liner and then i i get some moral information from the file and uh and stuff like that but i'll
|
||||
do a quick show on it cool okay and we have two comments even though it was only on Friday
|
||||
40 says great for g-powder 2 thank you for the great show i could use the url i got your way
|
||||
for g-powder 2 but not for cast get just for those who wanted to use something other than
|
||||
newsboat so there you go binon c says rss the planet i forgot to say in the show video feeds also
|
||||
seem to work with the antenna pod app from f-droid on android or automatic audio only playback
|
||||
of video seems to work also hack the planet no i want to rss if i the planet very much
|
||||
agree with that for sure so there were some other comments um to the previous
|
||||
shows is in fact brain and ohio had a show about or mode mobile solution and
|
||||
uh since uh i had a comment titled pine phone i'll preface this by saying that i'm responsible
|
||||
i'm responding to this five year five years later or this is a 2017 uh show
|
||||
and i'm not 100% sure if this would have been desired or possible for that matter back then
|
||||
just sharing it now how i got around this problem in 2022 smiley
|
||||
what i do for my mobile org modes need is a pine phone with a keyboard case running
|
||||
pine market o s o s with the s x m o environment and emax installed on it's a full no compromise x 11
|
||||
based emax setup it's actually quite comparable to the Atari portfolio in form factor
|
||||
as opposed to the more typical smartphone because my cell phone provider doesn't provide the smart
|
||||
the pine phone i don't use it as an actual phone however interesting it
|
||||
so next one is one of my shows bash tips number 20 and there's a comment from unnamed
|
||||
uh an untitled comment from unnamed which is good consistent anyway thank you very much for
|
||||
the series the comments it's i have a lot of friends who i infected with hVR with with your show
|
||||
one is even blind using a braille device i want you to know that this kind of work is very much
|
||||
appreciated good people are so rare dot dot com there you go there print that off and stick it
|
||||
on your fridge absolutely that's that's wonderful thank you very much for that comment
|
||||
been up says uh has a show about bsd for linux users and i commented that that was featured
|
||||
thanks to luan j won't give for name because it was it was private on bsd now episode 471 where
|
||||
they discussed that so um i'm just just puzzling over this next one because he's got some very
|
||||
strange characters in it um and it's uh two one of one of chromics shows linux in or shows and
|
||||
it's from operator who says awesome i just want to say not every linux in law is for me
|
||||
but these are smart people we should embrace smart people to communicate and share even if they
|
||||
we can't always communicate effectively and you've written you be be be awesome be awesome yeah
|
||||
but it's it's it's it's it's embedded with all sorts of unicode characters it's definitely hard to
|
||||
read it's very very clever i must say when i saw that one coming through the ether i was thinking all
|
||||
on this is going to a fire scanner and i'm going to make sure to check what this unicorn is doing
|
||||
before i was amazed that um the comment system didn't didn't feel filtered out actually so yeah
|
||||
it did it did it managed to let it through the little key yeah it's it's great absolutely great
|
||||
okay uh dnt says uh oh sorry dnt didn't say carl said to dnt show on recording for hack or public
|
||||
radio uh and he's coming to us great tips great show dnt and thanks to you and taj for the feedback
|
||||
via email what are the odds that a hbr show that specifically mentioned me with also air on my
|
||||
birthday the 31st of august pretty cool i would say the odds are one in 365
|
||||
yeah yeah well you forgot leap years of course but yeah 366 how about that
|
||||
yeah that's the most you want to see if there was any discussions because i need to go visit
|
||||
somebody in a hospital so try and keep me short today if you want if you want along your show go
|
||||
back and listen to last month's walk and we already covered that uh that section uh at the top
|
||||
of apologies to hbr um in the last month's show i don't think we need to go through it again do we
|
||||
no no no there was a call for shows open and volunteers for the new year show banner so i'm
|
||||
looking for somebody to do a sort of a logo or something for the new year show if uh you know back
|
||||
in the day we had like banner advertisement some pages something like that um and then there was a
|
||||
show above help posting show notes through image files and did that get resolved if yes it was
|
||||
just basically asking how you send um or you send supplementary files really um so you send a
|
||||
tab or do you send them individually and how do you do it and uh it big it was resolved by then
|
||||
the answer which came from row and saying no your browser you can do control and click on several
|
||||
things at once and send them yeah you can also send a zip file should probably uh record a show
|
||||
about that speaker will say who's recording a show is corporate two doing a show and
|
||||
cordy plex and jelly thin and uh commenters i'm finishing up some notes for a little series on my
|
||||
experience with uh home media front ends plex cordy jelly fin etc and he's specific questions
|
||||
that folks might have and x110 says i've got a html attack i've used plex for a while and the most
|
||||
compelling thing about their plex pass offering is being able to share my library with friends very
|
||||
simply so if either of the other tools or something like that it will be awesome to highlight and that's
|
||||
it i'm jumping about between things that can and can't see the html so yeah shall i do joshes on
|
||||
okay then and josh was the final reply how do each handle media tagging an organization i use
|
||||
plex and actually have a lifetime plex pass but i find that it's sometimes sucks of putting
|
||||
shores in the correct season and such okay and then you have one of our the accessibility
|
||||
question uh to mike um yeah just keep everybody up do you want to read us i'll really like um i
|
||||
won't go it's got it's it's not entirely readable but i'll just do the more readable bits just to keep
|
||||
everyone up to date i say i made some tweaks to the tags page to try and make it more accessible
|
||||
i emailed mike about the lips changes and i think i'm right in saying he'd find it a lot more usable
|
||||
the changes have been to add a header at the start of each alphabetic tag section mike says he
|
||||
can navigate my headers and this was a change he suggested and to add an aria label attribute
|
||||
to each show link that contains the tag a hyphen the word show and the show number
|
||||
i give a little snippet of the html is generated as a consequence this change makes the
|
||||
links associated with the tag more meaningful when using a screen reader please let us know
|
||||
if there are more accessibility issues we need to tackle on the hpr site too yep super now what else
|
||||
do we have gone on Dave oh yeah uh fast and uh is coming up in Brussels might be gone i understand
|
||||
you're not no i won't go okay and i'm thinking of requesting a stand representing free culture
|
||||
podcasts and if there are more people who are willing to come and do the stand with me there
|
||||
will have to be at least two different podcasts involved in that to before we can apply so we had
|
||||
two years ago the last in person uh show that there was or event that there was so if people are
|
||||
interested please get in contact also be sending a reminder about the hpr new year show which
|
||||
will be going ahead again this year so promos will be going out hopefully this week for that
|
||||
do you want to do the next one and then we'll wrap it up if i told you i was waiting desperately to hear me
|
||||
all right let's prolong it a bit short um no uh just to say that i'm make a progress with the
|
||||
uploads re-uploads of shows in the range uh in the thing here and i looked at it it's 155
|
||||
155 and then 150 why is that well those are two 31 day months and two and one 30 day month i
|
||||
discovered i'm surprised i'm surprised 150 so 30 times five is 150 so there you go
|
||||
learn something new every day i do anyway okay okay done so we have 678 remaining indeed
|
||||
so i should just keep plugging away until i'm done yeah and then once that's done we can link directly
|
||||
to the media um the internet archive for everything yep i can remove those redirects that we have
|
||||
in place and also it makes rooms thing a lot easier because by default it can point to the internet
|
||||
archive so even if you're running that at home you can point to the internet archive okay yeah cool
|
||||
that's it Dave and thanks for rescheduling thanks for reminding me that i've forgotten
|
||||
the new time thanks for rushing through us because i need to go
|
||||
uh uh students more for another exciting episode of hacker public
|
||||
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|
||||
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|
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|
||||
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|
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