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+Episode: 3770
+Title: HPR3770: Tucson
+Source: https://hub.hackerpublicradio.org/ccdn.php?filename=/eps/hpr3770/hpr3770.mp3
+Transcribed: 2025-10-25 05:11:28
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+This is Hacker Public Radio Episode 3,770 for Friday the 13th of January 2023.
+Today's show is entitled, Tusson, it is part of the series Travel.
+It is hosted by Aoka, and is about 15 minutes long.
+It carries a clean flag.
+The summary is.
+We move to Benson, a town just southeast of Tusson.
+Hello, this is Aoka, welcome you to Hacker Public Radio, and another exciting episode.
+And I'm continuing my travel log of our RV trip.
+And we're going to pick up in Tusson, actually Benson, which is just outside of Tusson.
+And on Thursday, January 13th, we moved to a different site to see if that would fix our
+electrical problem, and we'll see what happens.
+Cheryl did some socializing with a couple who pulled in to the spot next to us, but then
+they had a dog, so that's not terribly surprising.
+And then we did some shopping, so it was a pretty quiet day for us.
+Friday, January 14th, we had one electrical dropout in the morning, but that was all.
+We can live with that.
+I'm suspecting a low voltage condition.
+When there is a dropout, the alternating current powered stuff shuts off, and then comes
+back on a minute later.
+After breakfast, we went to the Carchner Caverns State Park, which was only about 10 miles
+from our campground.
+We went on a guided tour of the caverns, which lasted about an hour and a half, and then
+watched a film about how the caverns were discovered and developed.
+We were not allowed to take any pictures on this tour, but I can say for sure they are
+extremely serious about preserving the caverns.
+We essentially went through air locks entering and leaving, and the caverns maintained a temperature
+of 71 and a humidity of 98 percent continually.
+Now after the tour in the movie, we opted for the foothills trail, which was a pretty
+strenuous 2.4 mile hike up and down foothills on a trail that was uneven and rocky.
+We definitely had enough for the day by the time we were done with that, but it was a
+good day.
+My knee did feel a bit of strain, so I think tomorrow will be laundry day, and otherwise
+it's resting a bit.
+Saturday, January 15th, not mostly a maintenance day.
+We did the laundry, dumped the tanks, but we also went for a short walk.
+There's a nice little park next door to where we are staying, so we started there.
+Observed a lot of holes in the ground.
+They're undoubtedly made by wildlife, but what kind exactly we don't know.
+We have been told that snakes are not out right now and won't be until April, but this
+is rattlesnake country.
+So we're always cautious and stay on the paths.
+We did see some quail while we're out, otherwise resting up after that hike yesterday.
+Sunday, January 16th.
+Today was Tombstone, Tombstone, Arizona.
+This is totally old western kitch.
+It's well done.
+It's worth a trip if you're in the area.
+Now, it's not a place you'd ever go back to a second time.
+They do a so-called reenactment of the gunfight at the OK Corral.
+It's a timed show, so you want to check the times and get your tickets.
+We did so and got tickets for the 1PM show, and it included tickets for the Tombstone
+Historama, which ran on the hour.
+So we went there for the noon showing.
+The Historama is a combination of film and models and is narrated by Vincent Price.
+It gives the history of Tombstone, which began as a mining town and flourished until the
+rising water in the mines shut everything down.
+Then a quick lunch and on to the gunfight show.
+Totally cheesy but fun.
+We looked at exhibits afterwards then went to the Birdcage Theater, which at one time
+when Tombstone was flourishing was bringing in major acts.
+Now, the Tombstone is interesting.
+Why is it called Tombstone?
+You might think, well, Wild West, all these people were shot with Colt 45s and all that
+kind of stuff.
+It's not really where the name comes from, where the name comes from, is a miner who
+left Fort Wachuka to go and start looking for silver.
+One of the other people at Fort Wachuka said, you know, the only thing you're going to
+find out there is your Tombstone.
+So when he did strike silver, he called it the Tombstone mine as a result of that and
+then the town that grew up around it became known as Tombstone.
+So little history there.
+Anyway, with all the things we did in Tombstone, that ate up most of the day so we went home
+tired but feeling that we'd seen all we wanted to see there.
+Now, Monday, January 17th, this was the day we went to the Chirikawa National Monument.
+Now this is really beautiful and in some ways reminded us of what we saw in Utah a few
+years ago, such as Bryce and Zion, only instead of the red sandstone of the Utah parks,
+the rocks were grave volcanic tough, which is rock which forms when volcanic ashes compressed
+over time, then the wind causes weathering and erosion and you get beautiful shapes.
+Chirikawa gets his name from the Chirikawa Patchies who once lived here, but of course in
+the usual United States way, they got moved on the land somewhere else.
+They call these rock formations Sky Islands, which kind of makes sense because you have
+mountains rising up suddenly in the middle of plains.
+So it's not like the mountain range where it's just all these mountains together, you
+got a flat plain and there's suddenly a mountain in the middle of it.
+We drove up a winding road to the top at Masai Point, then hiked the Masai Nature Trail,
+then started on the trail to Echo Canyon, but it was very rough and downhill and when
+we considered we'd have to go back uphill every step that we went down, at a certain
+point we said, Nance, turn around.
+Can we drove back to the bottom and walked a little way along the lower Rialite Canyon
+Trail?
+By then it was about 230, we were tired and we had a 90 minute drive back to the RV so
+we left.
+It was a good day and this is a place well worth a visit and probably spending more than
+one day.
+Tuesday, January 18th.
+Well, turned out to be a rainy day.
+We didn't get a lot of them on this trip, but this was one.
+So good for a day of rest.
+We did take an empty propane tank to be refilled, but that was about it for the day.
+Now when you spend over three months on a trip like this, you don't need to go full speed
+every day.
+A day or two of rest every week is just fine and in fact is probably sensible.
+Wednesday the 19th.
+We went to the Arizona Sonora Desert Museum and it was well worth the trip.
+Adosin went into great detail about soaro cactuses and had some samples to show us of seeds
+across sections, some rib pieces, and so on.
+There were geological exhibits, fossils, animals, and plants.
+There were examples of all the minerals to come out of the mines and some wildlife.
+We saw some of the reptiles and invertebrates that populate the sonoran desert, a bobcat,
+and we looked like about five havalinas, which is a type of peckery, distantly related
+to pigs.
+There was a walk through aviary and hummingbird exhibits.
+I had trouble getting a picture of the hummingbirds since they're very small and move quickly,
+but I think our favorite of all was the cactus garden, which was magnificent.
+The museum is adjacent to part of the Soaro National Park, which we will visit later.
+Now the Soaro National Park interestingly has two sections that are separated from each
+other. One is on the west side of Tucson and the other is on the east side.
+So the Arizona Sonora Desert Museum is on the west side and just up the road is the west
+part of the Soaro National Park.
+Now the one on the east side is near where we're staying in Benson, which is on the east
+side of Tucson.
+On Thursday, January 20th, we went to visit Sabino Canyon, a recreation area within the
+Coronado National Forest, which is operated by the Forest Service.
+Happily, our national parks pass got us free admission.
+If you're in the United States, get your national parks pass.
+We really scored well because a few years back, they ran a special and if you were a senior
+citizen, anyone over the age of 65, you could get a good lifetime pass for $20.
+We jumped on that and Cheryl and I each got one, although we only need one, but at that
+price, we both picked one up and so we get free admission to all of the national parks,
+national monuments, all kinds of places and in this place, part of the national forest
+we got in for free.
+One of the things we were planning to do at this park was a guide and tour via tram, but
+it turned out that all the tickets for this day were sold out, so we bought two tickets
+for tomorrow.
+Then we got on a tram ride to the Seven Falls Trailhead, that was not sold out, in fact you
+didn't need to buy a ticket for that one, and hiked as far as the first river crossing,
+of which there were several.
+This involved clamoring across on rocks and we decided that was a good place to turn around.
+The hike to the falls was six miles round trip over very uneven and rocky terrain, so
+we had already decided not to try the whole thing.
+I'm 70, and my darling wife is like two years younger than I am, but neither one of us
+are spring chickens here, and so we have to decide what's an appropriate level of activity
+for us.
+Anyway, we went back to the trailhead and picked up the Bayer Canyon Trail, which took us
+back in the direction of the Visitor Center, and then it also took us on a short side trip
+to see the dam.
+Rivers we saw did have water in them, which we've not seen a lot of in Arizona, but it appears
+the water comes out of the mountains, and we did have rain a few days back.
+Every place we looked, the views were fantastic, and we took a lot of photos.
+I'm just in love with this desert landscape, landscape, something we don't have in Michigan,
+and with a distinct kind of beauty, then we went back to the parking lot.
+I did a lot of hiking today, but I'm feeling like I'm slowly getting in shape for it.
+We had a couple of walking sticks donated to us by a couple who didn't need them anymore,
+and we left them on the path back when we didn't need them anymore.
+But we found a summit hut store that sold hiking and camping supplies and bought some
+proper hiking poles.
+So many of these desert hiking pads are on rough ground, and the poles can really help.
+Oh, Friday, January 21st.
+Back to Sabino Canyon, where we had tickets for the 1pm tram tour.
+The road we took crossed Sabino Creek several times, and in one place the creek flowed over
+the crossing instead of under.
+Now the water is a combination of rainfall and winter snow melt from Mount Lemon, and
+made for a very scenic tour.
+After that we hiked back to the dam, this time approaching it from the west side, yesterday
+we were on east side.
+Then on the way back we detoured into a nature walk and spotted a crested soaro with
+a very interesting shape.
+Now a crested soaro is one where the soaro cactuses typically just grow up as a straight pole
+with maybe one or two branches at a certain point.
+But a crested one suddenly sprouts multiple branches at a certain point.
+So we got some pictures of this, and by the way the links in the show notes you can see
+all the pictures we took.
+So by the time we got down it was 3.30 and time to get going.
+Our route took us by the Davis, Monten, Tucson, Air Force Base, and kind of looked like
+a storage facility for older planes.
+We saw a lot of propeller-driven planes that looked to be in long-term storage.
+Now this space is very near the Pima Air and Space Museum we visited earlier, and we finally
+made our way back home.
+Saturday the 22nd, after two days of strenuous hiking at Sabino Canyon, we woke up to a cooler
+overcast day with rain in the forecast, and it was about time to do some laundry.
+So today looks like a day of rest, later on some shopping.
+Another Sunday January 23rd, another cool overcast day with rain threatening, so we again
+stayed in the RV.
+Now I brought a laptop for gaming, so I went back to my game of Alpha Centauri and won
+it by cornering the energy market, though I could have won it anyway I chose since I
+was so dominant, and then I started another game.
+So this is a hookah for Hacker Public Radio, signing off, and is always encouraging you
+to support free software.
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