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Episode: 4107
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Title: HPR4107: Response to HPR #4065
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Source: https://hub.hackerpublicradio.org/ccdn.php?filename=/eps/hpr4107/hpr4107.mp3
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Transcribed: 2025-10-25 19:41:03
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This is Hacker Public Radio Episode 4107 for Tuesday the 30th of April 2024.
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Today's show is entitled, Response to Hacker Public Radio 4165.
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It is hosted by Swift 110 and is about 22 minutes long.
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It carries a clean flag.
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The summary is, shout out to a shout out, I talk more about what I want in a framework laptop.
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Hello everybody, this is Swift 110 and I thought it would be great to do a response to
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a response to one of my latest audio posts here on Hacker Public Radio.
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Did a really, really, really good job at giving this response and sharing his information
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about the Intel framework that he is currently using.
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I appreciate the shout out, shout out back by all means, God, that was an amazing, amazing post here
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on Hacker Public Radio. Thanks again for that.
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Now, what he posted was HPR, that's 4065, Framework 13, 13 Generation Intel Review.
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This was in response to my post here on Hacker Public Radio and that one specifically,
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once I get my, wow, there it is.
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This was in response to my own personal post here and yeah, I think mine was HPR 4045.
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So if you get a chance, check out my original post where I was making this,
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where I'm talking about my MacBook Pro 2015 and how I look forward to someday
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getting a Framework 13. Now, let me go into that.
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The Framework 13 that I want in particular is the AMD version and I want the best CPU
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and the most RAM that I can get in there. Like that's like top.
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I know I want the AMD version from reading on Reddit and other comments I've seen online
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because it has a better graphics card than the Intel version does and so I want to make sure
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that if I get this new machine and I spend this new machine money that I'm going to get the
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best that I can get. One of the things I really like about Framework is their repairability
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and to tell you a brief story about the MacBook 2010 that I have, I was using it,
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got it as a gift for free and really nice, used it for Zoom virtually every day during the pandemic
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which was very critical to my mental health at the time because of everything going on in the
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world at that time is ensure you can understand and so it was nice being able to communicate with
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friends from different parts of the country by means of Zoom and that machine although really,
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really, really old was really, really good at getting me communicate, getting me connected to friends
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all over the country and so I'm grateful for having that particular machine.
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It's just a beautiful thing. Now I'm going to somehow connect Apple to Framework.
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Now what I appreciated about that particular machine that MacBook of 2010 is that I could take
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the RAM from whatever was in there already be it two gigs of RAM or four gigs of RAM.
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Oh, I could bring it all the way up to 16 gigs of RAM. Nice, right? How many machines can you do that
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in modern times? Over time things got soldered, hard drives got soldered, this got soldered,
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that got soldered, everybody soldered, soldered, filled me so it was good to go to a company
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that I wasn't expecting to have such upgrade ability but to be able to make my machine a lot
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greater than what it was before I made those upgrades. Now the upgrade again up to 16 gigs of RAM.
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Okay, I'm dealing with the Core 2 Duo CPU but at least that Core 2 Duo CPU got some help because
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in addition to that RAM I was able to take out the original hard drive and get a new SSD.
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That was not only newer but being an SSD it has no moving parts so it's more durable,
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just a better faster and also had a greater amount of storage ability.
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That's definitely a plus on its own and so upgrading the RAM, upgrading the hard drive and then
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going from the operating system I had on that particular machine at the time which I am going to
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venture I forgot what it was and you know what it doesn't matter what it was because I ended up
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putting Catalina on there. It took a long time to get it done because my internet was hot garbage
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at the time but got the job done and had a functioning machine in that whole scenario so yeah
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congratulations this is where Apple was doing at that time. Apple moved away from allowing their
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machines to be repairable by the user and so in essence they fell from grace which is a real
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dog on shame if you ask me. Now compare that to for example the T420 that I have right to my right.
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Very nice machine got it back in 2016 I believe got that from a pawn shop nice but I also ended
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up getting a new one from an online retailer there's a surplus in Michigan I got a nice T420 from
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them and that one's really nice problem is it overheats really easily and I don't like that at all
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and so it ended up not being so useful for zoom because it would just cut off randomly
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which is why I rarely use it also there's an issue with the keyboard and whatever other issues I
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haven't forgot about but that just is what it is the fact that I had problems with that particular
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machine made me appreciate the MacBook 2010 even more and I used that MacBook 2010 until I managed
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this bill just a little bit of water into the keyboard one day July a few years ago while I
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remember that I have no idea and from that day on the keyboard just did not work properly the machine
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was shut off randomly I had to keep it plugged in all the time just for the thing to work and hope
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the goodness it doesn't come loose or anything will happen to shut it off because then I'd have to unplug
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the battery I'd have to press keys do all kinds of stuff and it might come back on or it might not
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sometimes I had to sit for a while I messed with it then it comes on but it was nice to just
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have it on for a while but it still will be really wonky just needed a simple water real quick
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but yeah not that long afterwards I was able to actually get this MacBook Pro 2015 this was a gift
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and I really appreciate this machine from the time that I got it it's actually running Monterey
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and I'm going to be updating that in a little bit not to a new operating system but just to
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another version security version of that operating system make sure it stays up to date and I'll
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stick on Monterey as long as it's reasonable to do so and then when I see fit I'll go to a later
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version I'll see how far I can take that but to be honest right now I'm really happy with this
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MacBook Pro in 2015 it's got 16 gigs of RAM it's an i7 processor all in all let's be more specific
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about that because I'm pretty much going to talk about what I have right now and then compare
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that to what I actually want with regards to framework the crowd was waiting for that talk about
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the framework the actual CPU I have in here is an Intel i7 4 7 7 0 HQ I got a GPU of an Intel
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Ivers Pro and I'm rocking 16 gigs of RAM what I want to have in that framework let's go to the
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actual framework website lab site hmm did I really say lab site website is the framework
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laptop 13 do it yourself edition AMD Ryzen 70 40 series boom boom boom let's kick on that
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orange configure button shall we oh what have we got here do I really want that 70 40 series
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eh I bet you I can do better than that why not go ahead and get that 78 40 you
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but that 8 core and 16 thread and it comes with that big battery 61 watt hours okay that's going
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to be an additional 320 over the 849 that I started off with for a whopping $1,169 okay now I'm
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going to add to that even more and let's just assume that I'm configuring this machine with all
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parts from framework and that I'm not getting my own from another source so let's do this DDR5
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64 gigs that's another 320 dollars that ranking up to $1489 now I already got that going on
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let's talk about the storage what kind of storage do I want hmm western digital black
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SN770 or SN850X NVMe well the SN850X NVMe is one terabyte and it's only a couple bucks more than
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$99 so what the heck let me go ahead and do that oh no operating system you're trying to get me to put
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windows on this thing I will not curse this machine with windows I guarantee it so I'll tell you
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what we can go ahead and click that none bring your own now we come to a bezel you see one of the
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reasons that I like the framework is the fact that you can customize your machine according to
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what you want you're not going to try to give me a machine that just got 8 gigs of RAM in 2024
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you know why because that's absolutely ridiculous and anybody that does that ought to be ashamed
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of themselves yeah yeah yeah yeah I'm talking to you I'm talking to you all right let's get back
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to business here I have an option of a black bezel gray bezel orange bezel green bezel lavender
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thought I was going to say it again or red let's do definitely definitely not going to happen
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I'm leaning on orange gray or black don't matter so let's go ahead kick it with the keyboard US
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English of course because I speak English power adapter let's say I want a power adapter do I
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want a 60 watt power adapter you better bet you let's talk about these expansion chords all right
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I definitely want a USB-C definitely want two USB-As I definitely want an HDMI third generation
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booyah do I need Ethernet and do I need microSD maybe not now the truth of the matter is that I
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already have a USB-C dock so I may not need all this to be in the machine as an expansion card but
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it wouldn't hurt to have because it's just $20 for that microSD so I'm not even tripping off of that
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at all um let's see what can I get right now how about we get another USB-C okay I'm already up
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to 1727 dollars so $1,727 and do I want a storage expansion card 250 I don't really
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need one would I would like to do is perhaps remember I told you about putting that
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classic windows on this machine I don't want to put windows on that main drive but I'd be open
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to using it by means of an expansion card and then having the main drive run my Linux the
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distribution of Linux I'd be using is called Solus I think that would be a fantastic choice
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um so that's good to go I don't necessarily need a storage expansion card off the break
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so we're going to leave that fit leave that the way it is so let's go ahead
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and it says make a selection for best oh you're going to make me make a selection that's okay
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how about I go with black boring I know shoot me okay let's do the add to bank
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1,727 dollars Jimmy crack corn and I don't care oh as it turns out I've already configured a
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machine several times that's why my price is what it is because this is multiple machines wow
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okay not bad but at least you get the point of what it is that I would like as far as this
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particular framework machine now one of the things that I look forward to
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moving from the MacBook Pro that I carry around every day right now is MacBook Pro from 2015
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to a framework AMD 13 inch is that it'll be lighter probably about a pound and a half lighter
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and I got to make sure I don't make up for that pound and a half I adding more into my bag than
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what I need so I'll work on that so now it's nice having the machine but it will be nice to have
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something new now my MacBook Pro can get a little noisy sometimes never anything really
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bothersome but it is what it is what I like about the framework is that it's also a rugged design
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and that appeals to me something goes wrong I can go get a new part boom pop that back in do all
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the work myself and everything that is in there I meant to make this comment about Apple when you
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do repair stuff sometimes you have to use a special screwdriver head I think it's called the
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Pentalo whatever you call it and so the thing about the framework all you need is one screwdriver
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and you can handle any piece doesn't that machine I love it I also love the fact that all the
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pieces in there the components that are in there are also marked with the QR code there's also
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a marketplace you can buy used pieces you can do what you need to have a new machine the way you
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want it love it what else is great about the framework in particular well let's say you have a 13th
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generation AMD framework better yet let me go even further let's go all the way back to when
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framework first started with their 11th generation Intel I can literally take that 11th generation
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Intel device and upgrade to a 13th generation CPU Intel it can be AMD for crying out loud
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what other machines can you do that with I wait
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psych can't do that I don't know of any other machines you can do that with where you can jump
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generations like that now in the classic thingpads you could put a new you could put like a you know
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a new you could put a newer CPU in there you could do some things this takes that to the next level
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and I want you to understand that once you take that to the next level it means you theoretically have
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a laptop that you don't need to throw away and a beautiful thing about those motherboards is that
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once you're done with them you can build a whole new PC off of that isn't that awesome so you'll
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always have a use for those older motherboards they won't just be sitting around gathering dust
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unless that's just what you wanted to do there was something I meant to say and I don't want to
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forget it because it's a very important thing um let's see let me take another sip of water
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I'm hoping you can hear me right because I was using these air buds but the thing is they get
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loose in my ear and they are like about to fall and then when I adjust them then it messes up my audio
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and that gets really annoying that's why I like the ones that go over the ear like the hook
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because then they stay in place and I don't have to have them move while I'm talking the vibration
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kind of makes them come out of my ear and that's really annoying goodness is annoying
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I'm trying to think of what I was about to say
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I've been meaning to do air well I lost it so we're not even going to worry about that let's
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go back to the recording I'm obviously still recording because that's what I do and like I said
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I'm looking for a machine that I can build myself something I can really enjoy and I don't have
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to make expensive repairs to it either I've learned a lot about this company ever since it came out
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I've watched a bunch of YouTube videos everything different ones that have reviewed it
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and shout out to Lewis Rossman as well because I appreciate the way that he is very straightforward
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about what he has to say and doesn't pull punches great job thanks Lewis and it's just nice to be
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able to have such a nice machine and this truly mind what I'm going for and that's what we're
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going to be doing and what else did I want to say while I was here like I said I'll be using solos
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on here and yeah so that's about all I really have to say at this point really I thought there was
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something else I can always do another recording and follow up on what I'm saying right now
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but it is what it is and I might redo this one as well but anyway this has been Swift 110 in
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Athens talking about the journey from MacBook Pro 2015 to Framework AMD 13 inch Framework AMD
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13th generation and how nice that would be going from a 16 gig laptop to using 64 gigs
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will be really nice I'm curious how much power I'll get out of the battery life I don't see
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as being a real issue I just look at it as being a really fantastic way to get on about the B1
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once I get the money for it which is a whole other thing but I thank you all for listening to me
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and you guys but all means feel free to do your own recordings here on Hacker Public Radio
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recording here at Hacker Public Radio they would love to hear from you better yet we would love
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to hear what you have to say again this is Swift 110 you guys have a fantastic day
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