Episode: 4622 Title: Hackerpublic Radio New Years Eve Show 2026 Episode 5 Source: https://hub.hackerpublicradio.org/ccdn.php?filename=/eps/hpr4622/hpr4622.mp3 Transcribed: 2026-07-31 16:15:19 (official HPR transcript) --- This is Hacker Public Radio Episode 4622, for 2026-04-21 Today's show is entitled, "Hackerpublic Radio New Years Eve Show 2026 Episode 5" The host is Honkeymagoo and the duration is 01:48:02 The flag is Explicit, and the license is CC-BY-SA The summary is "the hpr community comes together to converse" I'm going to have to go in about six minutes, enjoying the Zoom call with some friends back home. So I'll break the new year. Before I would have stayed on here. Are they there and nobody goes to somewhere? They're in, well, I think I know where my friend is. And this trying to think where his two daughters and a friend I met through him. The, I'm thinking, I know he lives in Talbridge, which is a sub northern suburb, Murphy suburb of the background. And I think his daughters. I think her daughters live. I think one of them lives in Cogopholes. I think one lives in Stowe. And I think his friend that I met through him. I think he lives in Kent. So first, Kent was a lot to Kent. You heard of the Kent state riots. Oh, how? Okay. Yeah. Kent is north of Ackering. And it's east of Ackering. Sort of like on the adjacent borders of Cogopholes and Ackering. You said, yeah, you said you in six minutes. You're going to talk something about, you know, celebrate the new love thing. If somebody, okay, where is it? Midnight. And that's why it's a love of Scotia. Oh, I choice. Oh, I get different style. No, they, they, we discussed. We have a call every Sunday. My schedule permitting because of my work. But we have a Zoom call for like a cup of hours every Sunday. It's the hangout chat. And we discussed last Sunday that His daughters wanted to excuse me. Wanted to have a new year's eve hangout. Since they all have to go to work tomorrow. So they're not going to stay up for. I don't know if they're staying up for the ball drop or not. I don't know why don't know what we're doing. Oh, I know is they asked me if I was going to be available at 10 o'clock on. And I'm like, oh, no, all depends. And what time is so in it around that. Yeah, it probably I say it's a work tomorrow, which is of course. I mean, they say it's just wrong. I don't know what it is. But yeah, if they have to work tomorrow. Then yeah, they don't want to be up at midnight. Probably. Now, I, I used to work at hospital. So I've worked a lot in lots and lots of nutrition. This new year is fourth of July. Yeah. This was the first Christmas I've been home for in a few years. I'm usually home for Thanksgiving, but I'm usually not home for Christmas. Usually I'm home for for new years and for Thanksgiving. But this year, I decided to do it differently. And I skipped the years and I came home for Christmas. The last company I worked for just gave up on trying to get people to do any work between Christmas and New Year's. And the last few years, they just let everybody off from Christmas Eve. So they have to do years. Yeah, my, my friends to daughters are nurses. So it's funny that you mentioned about working in the hospitals. They're not in hospitals. One is in assisted living. And the other one is a, I remember what her title is. But she's in a doctor's office. The doctor's office is okay. The assisted living like a hospital. I worked in the hospital for 14 years. It's 24 or seven. First went there because I was going to college and it was like, Oh, they're open when I'm at a class. I could make a living instead of working at a hammer in between. It's like they've never been a hammer in doing it. So that's, that's why I've got 14 years working at hospitals. I'm familiar with my, I delivered to two different hospitals for three years. When I had a local job where I was picking up the pharmaceuticals and delivering them occasionally. I would go to a couple different hospitals if the, because of the careers. They would have either the conaline bands or the, what looked like the Amazon trucks. They, if they couldn't fit the whole order for the hospital that they were going to. I would deliver it for them. This was in a 26 foot box truck. So I got very familiar with hospitals. I learned the difference of the inpatient pharmacy, and the whole bunch of various drugs that I never knew I was going to know anything about. So like you opened to me the boxes that you're supposed to be done there. I had to know for, oh, I can't remember what they called it. I had to know for, there's an abbreviation for it. Temtruck. It's the chemical. It's the hazmat thing for the government. If you have a spill contact, you're going to have an electric. Oh, you, you've had it actually no one will run your trip that you were, you were hauling that kind of makes sense, but I'm surprised it's a rule. Oh, yeah, honey. I was privy to a lot of detail. More than I thought I would. Though I was heavily background checked. But I had been background checked so many times over the past couple decades. That, I mean, I was going into military bases. Yeah, treasury, federal pens, supermax prisons. No, no thanks. Like, live and work. I've been to the supermax there in the east side of South Carolina. No, thank you. Yeah, I didn't like going into those. I delivered a day or four spaces. Naval bases. Yeah. But in any case, the hospital. I was given the manifest. They had printed out a manifest. I thought, you know, shouldn't this be electronically submitted? Like, it is. And like, then why do I literally have like five six inches of printed paper? Government regulations. Everything in that drug has to have a manifest. Yeah, I know that. My wife used to work for a company that, yeah, for one of the larger pharmaceutical companies. That, uh, here in Houston. And I didn't know that, but they, they had warehouses full of stuff. And I wish he worked on one of the offices, and she didn't drop a truck and didn't mention that. Yeah, I, I got to see the, uh, itemized cost of the, the drug. I didn't really look through it. But it's good. I didn't really have the time to do that. Yeah, driving and delivering and stuff. But there was some, you know, times where I was waiting. And I would like this thumb through it briefly. And, uh, yeah, there were times where I've had like millions of dollars of stuff. It was, uh, it was an experience. I'm not surprised about the value. I'm surprised that the process of the manifest. So that's bizarre. I thought it was, thought it was, too. But be, yeah, to remember the FDA and, uh, other regulations. I mean, not to be political in any way. I'm this using this as an example, because it's the first thing I've thought of. It's pretty much like we had the ACA. And you had that 1090. It was a 1095C. I think it was, or you had to declare that you had health care for your employer, or you were using Cobra, or similar. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then, one of our presidents did away with that. But because of the amount of red tape is required to get something out of law. Pretty much, you have to pass another law to get rid of the other law. We still have to disclose, and we have insurance. Even though there is no law behind it, enforcing it. So it's the same thing with this stuff for the, transportation of our colleagues and firearms, and stuff like that, where what they thought of was a great idea of 1560 years ago, and being a good idea now. But no one's passed a law to change it. Oh, well, I guess you better get on your call. That was interesting. It's been really nice talking. We had a one-ticket, but I'll talk on that, if I stay awake. Oh, yeah. It's been a pleasure talking with. Everyone else that I've talked with tonight, and if you're on telegram or discord, you see my handle on mumble, that they'll underscore CDL. Anyone can go ahead and contact me, if you want to chat more about stuff. Okay, I'll look at that. Well, we have a good night, anyone else that's listening and happy new year? Depending on how long my call lasts, I might be back on, or I'll just go to sleep. We'll happy new year you, and happy new year to your family. New year as well. As my ham friend say, 70th. Hello, hello. Hello. Raymond, how are you doing? I had that matter. How are you doing? Still not that matter. My nerve is here. Push to talk, but I'm not hearing any audio. Hearing anything now? Yes, sir. Yeah, damn mute button. Not only that, it's backwards. Yeah, yeah, my brother's a long haul trucker, who lives in his truck with his wife and their dog. And Aaron Dave was somewhat familiar. I remember my brother when he was younger. He delivered an envelope to a military base. He was driving a full 53 foot trailer, but the only thing in it was this envelope. It was taped like the inside the doors on the cargo bay. And he had to get into this military base. And he had to open up the trailer and whatnot. But it was all very high security, high shush. I thought that was interesting. Then there was the time and trucker parking. And he was pulled over into a rest area, you know, service closet. And his, he was sleeping. And his trailer got hit by a drunken driver. Now he was in trucker parking off the road. So this drunk had to really work at it to, to run into him. He wasn't on a highway or anything. The big ICC bumper didn't do much for his view. But did wake my brother up, which took some doing sometimes. The net wonder, you're up in the northeast, right? It's a bit correctly. Yeah, I'm in the Boston area. Well, a little bit south of Boston. Boston is easy. Is the, is the easiest target, you know, to mention around here. It's a big metro area. Besides, it's also the place with the ugliest city hall in the United States. And some of the most challenging streets to navigate. It seemed, last time I was there, it was all one way streets going the wrong way. There's a reason why there's a famous trucking song called Give me a 40 acres and I'll turn this rig around that mentions Boston. By the way, I don't drive. My eyes aren't good. And I just never learned and also I have some perception stuff that would make learning to drive challenging. I would say your bad eyes are why you think that the Boston city hall is not a beautiful building. Well, it's a, it's one some people like and some people hate. I have heard that it was original. It was one of the, ground IP points that the Soviets used back in the Cold War for if they were going to bomb the city, they would aim in our city hall. And some people of the old school thought that maybe not knocking it, but certainly bombing it might be an improvement. All right, I had to go with it. And I can kind of agree with Well, it's also in front of city hall is a bench with our most useful mayor in a century. Mayor Kerley is still holding down a bench in front of city hall year round. He's in bronze, but a lot of people who know Boston politicians think that that's the most useful mayor we've had in decades. Now, is that what they call brutalist list architecture? I don't think you should concrete. Yeah, it looks like a good example of brutalist architecture. I don't know. I mean, there are some buildings there that are pretty and then there's that thing. And But then again, we also, we also have our legislator there just a few blocks away. And on the fourth of your line, we have the Boston Popses augmented by a couple of 105 hoursers. Some people think it's a shame that they fire blanks. That's the only way to do the 1812 overture to do it right. Well, yeah, I think I think of the 2105 that they use as the concussion section. The last time I was in Boston probably late 80s, early 90. The big dig was in its heyday. Well, I don't think the big dig was underestimated as much as they think. I think they were using camels nose and accounting. Okay, that's when you'll have to explain. Well, it's a famous thing, you know, the camel gets his nose in the tent and then he gets a little more and a little more and a little more. Well, the big dig was such a lifting butt boss, you know, tunneling under Boston and putting a new road net under it was going to be so expensive that if they gave them the real price up front of nobody would fund it. It was sort of like the Manhattan project. Also, you've got to remember you're dealing with Boston, which means you're dealing with certain organizations, which have to be pacified to get anything done. I know some of the dirt hauling was bid for at a very low price, and then was renegotiated after the contract was in somebody's paw. We've got Boston represented. I've got East Tennessee represent who else. Well, I'm sitting on the Saturday detective. I'm, I'm, I'm a refugee from the country down here just south of Boston. I'm a Jersey about 20 minutes from Philadelphia. Raymond, where were you saying? I'm, I'm, I'm a, the Saturday detective. Houston's actually. Houston's nice. I'm not, my kind of people, my dad was from, near Morgan Town, West Virginia, and my mother was from a small town up, up in the middle of Maine, up near Mount Blue State Park. In fact, they took her home farm to make the Mount Blue State Park. So she, she moved into the Belgrade Lakes area. Those two farms, my grandfather's and my, mothers, families saved my sanity when, when I was growing up from, my dad was an alcoholic from, for many years and died of it, about 94. And I got my PTSD at home. That's right. Well, I survived my family, and I'm still ticking, also, considering everything. I, uh, I'm sort of hanging on, um, one reason I didn't learn to drive is that my father had the only license in the house, and that was a major power center. Well, my mother didn't know how to drive. She was the one doing cooking, and she couldn't teach me any of that because that would reduce her power. It was, it was a, it was a family where, both parents were, had their spheres of influence, and their kids were, or to keep their mouth shut, and take care of the parents. Typical, I've heard it's typical of an alcoholic family, and after my mother got rid of my dad, I took over his responsibilities, to keep things running. I wasn't given any authority because I was her son, but I was the one who, helped, get the taxes paid, get stuff fixed, you know, split wood and shit when we were heating with wood. Made certain that she was nice and toasty, which was a real job because I would get to place up to, you know, 80 degrees or whatever, and she would feel a draft and she'd still feel cold. Well, if you have a wood stove and one corner in a cold winter and the other end of the house, you're going to have a draft, you know, thermodynamics and all of that, but she didn't understand any of that. So as long as she could feel a draft, I had to fire that stove harder. But she had some notions, like all the relatives up in Maine, were her family, they weren't mine. It was a, which had some interesting things, like when my grandmother died, my grandfather died, or what not, uncle's died, whatever. She could go up there, go to their funerals, and mourn them, and whatnot. But since they weren't part of my family, I was just all around his baggage. Now, my mother was born in Maine. So, according to her wishes, I followed her, her rules. She died in 2017, and I put her in the ground, and I haven't seen that stone since. Raymond, so Houston, the last time I was, I was flying a T-34, air to air combat trail, laser, it was a company. Remind me of what it is. Remind me of T-34, let's fly. F-5, Navy propeller driven trainer, a forward backward. Oh, it's got a long, the, flexi glass thing, has got lots of window frames, and slides back, right? I think you're thinking T-6. Well, hell, I think it would probably have a different number in the Navy. They had, they had different numbers, even for the DC-3, which is a C-47 in the Army, but had a, had a different designation for, back in, in the old day. Yeah, the, what I flew was the T-34 mentors, made by, crafted, three or four different curved segments of, of canopy. But, um, very straight wing, um, very good trainer. It, it would go the direction you personally. No, I was right. This is, I've got a picture of it over here. That's what I was talking about. The canopy is long, and has, is broken up into several window frames. So, I, I didn't describe it very well, but it is what I was thinking of. Yeah. Cool airplane. Yeah, they were loads of fun. The company that was doing it was a company called, the Texas area, and they had them set up with pulsed laser systems, so you could, you could tell when you hit your target and what have you. It was loads of fun. Sadly, uh, just a couple years after I flew with them, the, the guy that was my flight instructor for that flight, um, was the one who lost his life when the wings came off the same airplane. Oops. When was that? Uh, 90s, mid 90s. Um, I was flying early 90s. Were you a military fire? No, I was a general aviation. I just took advantage of the, of what Texas area is. This was offering there to give experience. My dad was, um, uh, infantry soldier in World War II, and he joined the, uh, civil air patrol after, the war. And he got to fly a, a, 52, and thought that was the meest plane in, in the world. Oh, nice. One of my uncles was, uh, a, a course air flyer in the war. That's my favorite airplane. I think, just, I watched too many episodes of black sheep squadron way back in the, Yeah, my uncle said he was a couple of islands over from, uh, packing pointed. He, he knew all of him at the time, but never met him. Well, my, my brother had a unique way of getting, to Hawaii. He was in the back seat of an F4, phantom that they were going to turn into a drone. Uh, this, Air Force Colonel was retiring to, um, uh, Hawaii. And for his last flight, he did a ferry flight from, from, uh, California to Hawaii. And my brother was in the back seat. And evidently, the Colonel, uh, lit up, uh, a Russian intelligence trailer on the way. It was, you know, keeping an eye on our, Pacific Fleet, didn't fire at it, but just, uh, I guess put the target radar on it, to show that we cared. Well, here's my, the F4 has it range. I believe that they've probably had it tanked up, you know, instead of bombs, just all drop tanks. Uh, at least this is what I was told. No, I've only seen, yeah, I've only seen, uh, I was, uh, in Vietnam and Thailand. I've seen lots and lots and lots of, uh, they'll force take off. And they don't strike me as a kind of thing, that, those long distance, they, uh, look like things that we go really, really fast somewhere, and do what they had to do and come back, and that we're, you know, not that far away. So, I'm, yeah, I've never looked it up for anything, but they don't look like that. So, think about that, things and stuff. Also, you got to remember, while the F4 was a Mark II fighter, and most fighters today are a lot slower, because they found out people were not fighting at Mark II or 2.5 like we thought. The F4 was a bomb truck. They could load it up with Orad, and you know, with, with 1000 pound or 2000 pound bombs on a wings, like crazy. And if, If they can do that, they can load it up with a lot of fuel, and if you're not going, you know, mock in the mock, it might be a lot more fuel efficient on a ferry flight than it would be. When things were getting real. Well, gentlemen, I'm chatting with a care. Happy New Year. I see here where they say that the F4 has a ferry range of 167 miles. How far is it to get to Hawaii? Damn, they say 2,400 miles. I don't know. Maybe he was both shouldn't be. I wouldn't go that far, but yeah, I just just looked it up, and it says it's a long distance fighter, but yeah, that sounded kind of far, but you're right. They're during a ferry for that distance. They might be able to do that. And that plane can be fueled in the air. So maybe that's how it happened. When it surprised me, none. I mean, they were using it. They were going to turn it into a target drone. And also, also, if they're going to turn it into a drone, they might have took a lot of heavy shit out of it, you know, some of the armaments and classified whatever, you know. Yeah, I had forgotten about the possibility of a resueling air, which they might have not had done. That's a shame. They delivered you and got a shoot down. That's terrible. Well, you got to remember that was, he was probably late 80s there about something like that. But our mid 80s, so you were getting your F-14s and whatnot, were coming in F-15, whatever. So the Vietnamian stuff was going to the wall. He also had some interesting, he was in the army. His first posting, one of his first postings was down to El Paso, Fort Blitz, which, according to, at that time, was a pretty blitz place. A lot of, a lot of alternate medications going on. And then they posted him with a perishing unit out in Germany, which caused a little excitement during the Cold War when some uninvited visitors came over the wire while he was doing guard duty, just before shipping them back out to the states. Yeah, these gentlemen were, according to my brother, while the Cold War was not as cold as you might think. And these gentlemen came over the wall while he was doing guard duty. He was normally in mechanic, but they were out on a training. They had sent the his unit out on a training mission. And since he was shipping home, they didn't, they just gave him guard duty instead, because he wasn't going to be in the active unit, not much longer. And evidently, some people decided that they were going to try to do something nasty to do their perishing base. And he was supposedly one of the ones who woke up the reaction team and whatnot by catching these guys going over the wire. Well, after they had the excitement, they turned these gentlemen over to the Germans. And my brother was hustle out of Germany because they wanted to, you know, smooth everything over. When he was checking out of his base, he went to a certain officer to sign off on shit and he said that, you know, allegedly, the major he talked to, as he was, you know, dotting the eyes and crossing the T's said that the gentleman that they turned over to federal authorities seemed to have gotten lost on the way to jail. So I have a feeling that they're somewhere in the black forest. There's an area that's a little more fertile than it was originally. Because the Germans did not have a sense of humor when the communists were going over to wire. They just did not, and these guys, they didn't want to waste. Well, they were taking care of, shall we say. Again, that might be bullshit, but it also sounds like something that, that would be, uh, everybody's more stories get better over time. Oh, speaking of war stories, the Russians did not supply their troops with toilet paper. So the Russian troops, because they needed something to use as toilet paper, tended to use crypto coding forms that had been used, that used and worked being disposed of. The reason I know this is that there were British troops that were sent over with no cover to literally dig up these shitty coding forms to get the intelligence on them. So not providing toilet paper meant that the paper that they did use ended up giving the British intelligence when, but it took somebody digging up the use toilet paper went from, from where the Soviet troops had camped. What was that of then? Probably 80s. There was a thing on YouTube about it when a few years after a while these people went back to what is the reunified part of Germany and introduced themselves to some of the people who had given them quiet support during the bed before the, before the wall came down. That's where I got that story. I'm going to worry about that one. It was a very quiet operation, but and these guys were, were going over there with, with no cover, no official, whatever. If, if either these Germans or the Russians that got them, these guys would have had a hard time. You said you served in Vietnam? Yeah, I forgot to push to tell. Well, I got an interesting story. If you don't mind, from a guy who was a chopper pilot in Vietnam, I met this guy at one of the Linux users groups that I went to. This would probably be in the 90s or so. I haven't been to one in this century, but back along, I went to the Boston Linux users group at MIT. This guy said that he ran into a guy who was a long range intelligence type. He went off for the Kit Carson Scout, which was a turned VC, up into North Vietnam, and he found found found the NVA was having a big powwow on his hilltop with a battalion or a large, large amount of troops that were having, you know, whatever they were doing, they were having a confab. Well, he and his partner tried to get air strikes, tried to get our artillery, tried to get everybody, but because he was on the North, most of the people didn't believe that this unit, this reconnaissance unit was real, and they were thought they ain't going to sense any, they thought this was going to be a spoofing situation. So they go down to the list of radio frequencies, and at the bottom of the list, there's this frequency today used. They call, and they get somebody finally picks up, and they said, how close are you to that concentration? They said 500 meters. He said, all right, get two kilometers away and call me back. So they go out to 1,000 meters, they don't know anything that's got a safety range of 2,000 meters, so that they don't. They say these guys must be bullshitting me, so they call it in early. They say, you know, all right, fire one shot, and we'll give you the adjustment. The, the voice on the radio says, we do not adjust, your mission is fired. While a few a bit later, the hilltop disappears. Their Kit Carson scout is leading from the years from the concussion, everything's gone to shit. So they get to the radio, and they say, by the way, who am I talking with? The answer comes back to battleship, New Jersey. Yeah, they didn't adjust because they were going to be sending 9, 2, 700 pound shells, you know, with 20 some miles, and they were going to remove the hilltop. They didn't really have to deal with, you know, 25 meter or 50 meter increments. They just fart 9, 9 rounds, and they're all that far apart. So they all just wipe out the whole area. That's reasonable way to do it, I guess. Yeah, you don't have to knock out the building. You're going to take out the city block. You know, one of my buddies served on one of the last battle gun cruisers of the in the navy. He was on Newport News. The cruiser now in Quincy is the Salem, which was one of the cruisers that used guns as a main armament. It had, I think, 9 auto loading 8 inch guns. They were trying to replace the battleships with an auto loading 8 incher instead of the 16 inch manually loaded guns on the, you know, I was in whatnot. He, a buddy of mine said that this ship was so nasty to the North Vietnamese that they wanted it moved out of the conflict area or whatever. They were all right with our, you know, bombing missions or whatnot, but evidently this ship was just being too effective so that they made it bargaining chip in Paris. Also, I was told, you said there was a last one that it would use guns. What do they use now rockets and missiles? Yeah, they were going from, from guns to surface surface to surface missiles, surface to air missiles. Right now, they use everything from our Poon, Tomahawk, which is cruise missiles. In fact, there's Tomahawk blown air in there. No, Tomahawk is, well, it's, it can, it can, and I ship missile is a missile. Yeah, it can be, ship, launched or it can be air launched. Drones are, where is that? Well, they have some interesting drones these days, including one that's supposedly equipped to do it air to air refueling that is to say it's a tanker. I was surprised about a year or so though I was walking my dog in my neighborhood and saw a strange little airplane that looked like one of those, those drones, I took a picture of it and, and it was, one of the, one of the names of a couple of those, the, that they use, I forget, but it was, it was some drone that they were flying around my neighborhood. Predator, are you talking about? It was a predator mode. Yes, he was a predator. I took a picture of it and it looked up online and found that it was a predator drone and did though. So I did another search and because I lived close to an aircraft worth hear us and said predator drones, Elington Airfield, and found out that they have a training, they had trained people to, to operate those things. Right here in my backyard, no, my front yard action, and they fly around the neighborhood. Well, one of the interesting things is, predators are not only intelligence drones, but they can be have Elfire missiles attached. And one of the Elfires doesn't have a warhead. It has, I think, six blades. So, so it comes out for anti-personnel work, if they're taking down some blade. Yeah, well, more like sabers, think of six blades sticking out and then the thing crashes into through your into somebody who's on a balcony or sitting in a window or whatever, and chopped up, I guess it's an alternative to blowing the entire building up. I don't think of those as anti-personnel devices, but I guess they could be. Yeah, they said the same thing about the M15. But the answer to that was, you know, I wasn't aiming at the people, I was aiming at their canteens. If I got really thirsty, they would go home. Yeah, well, I remember reading that there was investigation about the Marines in the war on terror. Evidently, they got somebody got their knickers in a twist because the Marines were taking too many headshots and somebody got the idea that the Marines were getting close enough to take these people out execution style, it's short range. Turns out they weren't doing that. It was just a bad guy who was stick his head up and a Marine would give him a third eye and away you go. The guys were not showing their bodies, but which may have been wearing body armor anyway, so the Marines were just taking care of business. Now the army is going to get even nastier with this new 6.8 by 51 round, which is set off by a 80,000 PSI powder charge. It's flooding the difference between the 556 and the 762 and it's about 20,000 PSI higher chamber pressure. It's so high chamber pressure, it has a brass body and a steel steel base for extraction. 3000 feet per second with a 133 grain bullet at the 16 inch barrel. Yawie. Yeah, well imagine that thing tucked into a 24 inch barrel. Also California band selling 50 BMG rifles. Now these are rifles that are probably like $4,000 at peace. Which means they're not liable to be used in your average bodega stick up. Well, the Barrett company, first they stop selling them to California law enforcement. And second they made a new barrel. We're instead of 50 caliber. The barrel is 41 point is 40, is 0.416, which happens to be an old elephant rifle caliber. The improved Barrett round increases the range of the 50 BMG over the 50 BMG by about 300 yards. So the new rifle is good for like $2,300 yards instead of 2000. And you still can't stick up a 711. Yeah, when I was, no, but you can knock it down. Well, you can make a hole in it. I don't know if you've ever shot an M50 before, but I know you can take a hole building down with it, like a saw. I guess the most biggest thing I've ever shot was a M60 machine gun. I fired the M60, fired the 249, fired the 240, fired the Mark 19. Yeah, we're firing M79. No. I never fired one. I wouldn't let a shooter. When I was in the army, they gave us the things they told us how to use it, but they wouldn't let a shooter. I don't know, bullets cost too much, but there was a cute little shot again. I'm always one of the shoot one. Well, the fletchart round is certainly effective. I mean, shotgun on Sturrit 40mm, going to give a lot of people a bad day. Yeah, when I was in Vietnam on guard duty, that was the weapon we were supposed to. Somebody was coming through our wire. That was what we were supposed to shoot him with first before we used the, I don't know. I think that was first and then the N60 and then our personal weapons. Well, I was lucky when I went in. They were phasing out the 60 and bringing in the the 249s. So I did get to fire both. I love the N60. That was such a fun thing. I had the shooting it, taking it apart, cleaning it, putting back together. I thought that was a really cool rifle. Right. The the 60, the M60 is 762 and then the 249 is very similar. It's just 556. So that way you can, you know, and it would take mags as well as being belt fed. So, you know, if your buddy died next year, you could grab his ammo and continue shooting. Yeah, I understand. I had an M4. Well, with the Vietnam, I got an M4, gaining later in the 60. Okay. Now, because the M16s came out first and then the M4s came out later with the the smaller stocks and the shorter barrels. No, I said, I had an M14. M14. Okay. Yeah. And then an M16 thing. I said, I had the M14s is what they started getting on with. And the M16s came in, came in later. Right. And then the M4s, I was one of my units on the last ones to get M16s. Or M14s? No, no, M16s. I mean, we had the M14s and then we were on the last ones to get the M16s. Oh, okay. Okay. Oh, yeah. So you had the M16 Alpha 1, which was slightly heavier than the Alpha 2, and definitely not as reliable. Oh, no idea. It's been a while. Yeah, for me too. Well, that would be the one without the chrome barrel. When they said you didn't have to clean it. And the usual bullshit, the Pentagon had tried to do so much to sabotage the M60 that by the time they came out with real problems, people weren't going to believe them anyway. They just thought the Pentagon would, from my understanding with the M60 and correct me if I'm wrong, you could practically throw dirt in that thing and it would work better eventually. But the early ones didn't have the nice barrels and stuff. And again, uh, some people who who took them on didn't realize the sooner believe that they sure they would have to be upgraded when they got into the field. And, and the early ones were, would tend to rust and whatnot in Vietnam. I have a guard duty story that I got from a guy at MI2, T, who was a software guy at deck. But during his service, he was intelligence in Vietnam. Being an intelligence officer full of secrets, they naturally put him on guard duty in a bunker where he could be, uh, if things went bad, he could be taken and whatever. But they had this one one major who was driving around in a, some kind of vehicle with a bad muffler. And these guys were wiped out because their schedules were officer of the day, guard duty and besides their day job and everything, they were just burnt out and everybody was pretty wiped out with the heat and everything. Well, this major would go along and he would challenge everybody with password and countersign in a very recognizable vehicle. And he would show them up if they didn't remember the current password or current countersign or whatever it was. Well, my buddy says they went down to the next bunker. The guy sends a challenge and the bunker yells out the countersign correctly. But the major had been going around and he forgot what the, what the proper was once was. The major didn't give the bunker that he just interrogated the proper countersign. So somebody did a maged up in his general direction. They said that major wasn't seen the rest of the night because he shouldn't self. Oh, I do believe I heard the things like that. Well, you got to remember, no, it was actually the 50 BMG that I was thinking would take down a building. Right, although also in the Philippines, people were putting big ass sights on them and I was told that they were even using them for indirect fire. By the way, a modern 50 BMG also, there's a German round, which I think I'm probably mispronouncing at what RAM flows, which is basically, it's an explosive round, anti-material naturally. So, technically, with this MMO, the 50 BMG turns into a light cannon. Yeah, I know what you use it for. Well, it was probably designed for tearing up light vehicles, radio or radio or radio or radio or radio. Shooting can't change. Whether it's a water jug or a little building, the 50 BMG will take both of them out. You're not allowed to shoot at people. You're allowed to shoot at equipment with the 50 BMG, which is why you're shooting at their canteens because they're normally carrying their canteens. And there won't be anything less, they will be liquidified. You don't even have to hit them. You get close, you'll cut them in half. Actually, one of the things that when I was still getting brochures from coalmans and whatnot, when coalmans actually existed in full guns and in Quincy, they had this young lady. She was in her teens out in Arizona and she was competing with a bearer. And I swear that rifle was as tall as she was and weighed probably near as much. Yeah, I remember I did something stupid. I don't remember what I did. I got in trouble and they decided that my punishment was to carry around the 50 BMG. And that thing is having. And I decided to try and do port arms with it because it was funny. It made me laugh when I did it. How would you normally carry that? Like one arm all when you're just hanging? You got a balance on your shoulder and then steady it with one hand. That's really the only way to carry it. Oh, there's like right shoulder arms. Yeah, I mean, if you're going to look it around, that's really the only way to do it. And then occasionally you have to switch arms. Either that, or you got to try and do that whole, you know, put it over both shoulders and wrap your arms around it to hold it into position. It's not fun to carry. Yeah, that's last year that then in 60, which they considered, which was known as the pig. Yeah, they weren't that heavy, but I wouldn't want to carry. Well, I was a saw gunner, but that's the 249, not the 16. I have over the difference in the weight of them. Was a saw lighter? Yeah, yeah, like I said, it was 556 and 776 too. So it was considerably lighter, but still heavier than, you know, your average M16. And I don't know why they kept giving all the little guys the saws. Also, you know, 500 rounds of ammo would be a little lighter as well. Yeah. And well, we had to carry, I think it was a hundred round belt and then a spare, but we weren't carrying 500 rounds either. Under round drum and then a spare, 100 round drum. But considering how fast that thing ripped through ammo, if you had it turned all the way up, that wasn't well. Did I use a drum feed? Well, you had a drum with the belt and it you pulled the belt out, you wrapped it over the top, you you closed the top down, you pulled the bolt back. Okay, so just a drug belt, just like an M16. Yeah, or you could take a magazine and stick that in the side, if you were out of belt ammo, granted a magazine didn't last. Yeah, yeah, I didn't last a last half a second. But that was supposedly the benefit of having it be 556 instead of 762. You could grab the ammo from somebody's M16 and just continue one. Well, I'm glad that wasn't my job. Well, I was in the yard. I had fun with it. Sometimes it seems like one of the things that you probably glad you did, but how glad you're done with it? Well, you know, it paid for my college and it still sends me a paycheck for my disability every day and month. Because it gave you a disability. Yeah, that's an damn expensive check gentleman. Yeah, I'm aware. By the way, both of you, I never served my disability was purely civilian PTSD and clinical depression and mild autism. But I do respect anyone who served and especially anyone who served during not times. I rack was indeed very warm, but thank you. Well, they don't have any orders in those places. This seems like, wait a minute, my dad was in Europe. Europe was nice until they got there. Right? They might be nice when you started, but they weren't nice when you finished. I watched the movies of the, the desert wars and the, and when they're doing the towns, the black hot bound and the, you know, they're in a rea somewhere and I just can't imagine and the slight. And I can imagine actually being in the jungle here because I wasn't getting out, but I was not one of the guys out to hump in the jungle because that was also just scary as hell. Yeah, I'll stick to the desert. Yeah, I think the only thing I would hate more than snow is swamped. Well, yeah, and also the desert, at least you can see him coming. The jungle, they've brought you. Well, they did. It depends on what part of the desert you're in and if somebody sneezes real hard. We camped on some, um, dried up river beds and the wind blows a little bit and you can't see. Just for your general knowledge or just for shits and grins, the ground was originally not designed for for 30 out six. It was designed for a 2.7 for a 0.276 round and nowadays the latest army gun is going to be firing 2.76 again. Really, when they make that switch, uh, ongoing. They wanted something with more punch, more, more punch than 556, but uh, better ballistics than, than 762 in a similar cartridge form factor. That's why it's using a 51 millimeter case. I think but it is a hot-rotted beast. It's 80,000 round, 80,000 PSI in the military version. Fuck, 762 is like, um, 60,000. I think it seems like you're like, whatever you got used to, when you were young, you know, you, you like the music you got used to in high school and you like the first, roughly you had, whether you were shooting deer in east Texas or if you were, uh, in the in the army or or forever. And that's what you kind of like and everything is. You kind of go look at it, go. Hmm, wonder why they changed it. Well, I'm down here in Boston where I'm purely disarmed, uh, in our legislature, which couldn't, uh, tell an M16 from a V2, it's been making rules about all the scary guns out there and, uh, making the people who bought legal guns, uh, criminals because they just don't like to look at it. Of those, uh, guns which are passed by the ATF or whatever. I'm one of the radical lefties, but I was born and raised in Texas, so I got guns too. Yeah, I, I, I am definitely considered a lefty, but I am, you know, pro-second amendment, but there's a lower case lefty and then there's the upper case lefty. Unfortunately, the upper case lefty seemed to be running to show. Not sure, I know what you're talking about. The ones that are woke, literally, uh, you clearly not paying attention to who's running the show and they are lefty. Right. Well, no, I'm, I'm saying, it, when you're talking lefties, there are lefties, lower case, which is, uh, people with brain, brain talking about the whole, you know, who makes the most noise. And it's the same thing with the right. It's, you know, the psychos making the most noise. And then there's the rest of us sort of in the middle that they're just trying to get on and try, trying to agree to disagree and shit like that. Well, I won't go talk politics and I don't know, it would guess I am, but, uh, yeah, I'm left, I, let's just say I'm, I'm left to center, but, um, I do have far enough. Accents to me. Well, I'm just saying that that's a lower case lefty. I mean, the, the ones that are saying, oh, God, arresting illegal aliens should be illegal. Well, okay, I now, I guess I know what you meant, my little face is that was, I guess that was a question. See, I'm of the opinion that if you, if you break the law, then, you know, should pay for it. But also, um, that it's none of my business. What a woman does with her body. And it's not any of my business. What two consenting adults do in a bedroom that I can't see and don't want to. That's just called minding my damn business. And what goes on between, what goes on between a person and their doctor is none of my business. Yes, I'm pretty woke to me. But I also believe it's your right to own a gun. Yeah, but you're not going to, going to see him signing up is kids for trans sexual Tuesdays, which the true wokes think is just purely normal. I think that that is overblown that people saying that that's happening. You know, there's always going to be someone out there that pushes their kids towards that because they're jackass and one attention. Yeah, that happens. And yeah, that's child abuse. But there are also, you know, actual medical conditions out there. And it's less than 1% of the population. So I don't see why it's such a blown out of proportioned thing. Well, again, I have some some trans friends online. In fact, is a YouTuber, a YouTuber that I was supporting back in the day when her channel was very small. Now, she has a very good parody line of my little pony merchandise and my little pony parody books and whatnot. And she's already going to court with Mattel and they ruled that the parody is protected speech. Yeah. So so Mattel can't shut her down. And again, she was trans long before it became the flavor of the month. So and and unfortunately, she's one of the people who when she was visiting like the Carolina's and whatnot got pinched by the reaction to the crazies. There we go deep down the politics hole. Apologies. Oh, no worries. I was leading the way. Well, considering my dad was a nasty alcoholic. So my wits got sharpened on the edge of his chopped logic. Yeah. I think we're going to talk about computers and stuff. Can talk about computers too, but anything goes. Well, I've spent many more years with computers I didn't have guns. So I can't say the same thing. Well, what's funny is that I'm doing this with two screens. On one of the lowest powered X86 machines that I have here warranty is given me a couple of machines that are lower powered, but this is a like two gigahertz AMD APU machine and for for basic stuff like mumble or YouTube and it works pretty good. It works okay. It is a thin client. I think it was a T60 with 16 gigs of memory and it's running a USB 3 SSD externally. It's built to be an client with like a corporate machine before they go to a server or some sort of the most the application, but you're using it with his local OS only. Yeah, eventually. Yeah, that's the way I'm using it with local OS now. What I really want to try is to get something I have someone leader boxes around here, which are low power I-5s and I-7s and run prox box on it and then run the run a prox box client on this machine and a desktop under a device under like under prox box. That way under a device you get the same client can behave as a same client with all of the heavy lifting done by the I-5 or I-7 or I-3. I think that might be an interesting combination because when the I-3s machines don't have to run a display and the thin client only has to run the display we might have a more powerful combination than the machines than having the machine do everything. Okay, I don't know that's like a really complicated way to do something that's a bit used. Kind of simple for you to use with your application that requires a box box and multiple CPUs. Well, again, well, to be clear I'm just re-inventing the X-term which states me, but then again I was my first unique experience was at MIT with a I think 1134, 1144 and maybe a small VACS. So, you know, my unique experience goes back to AI TV's at MIT in building 20. A temporary building, it was finally taken down about the turn of the century after being used for the radar project in World War II. So, so you really used to having your client on your desk and the other part in a room that you don't even know where it is. Yeah, although the night TV's were weird, you remember Hercules display? It's not about a clue if that was your document. Monochrome, monochrome display, graphical display back in the days of DOS. I remember spark stations that had a rounded, monochrome display. Right. Well, these, the machines that I was using had an MIT cobbled multi-head video and keyboard system, where what you had on your desk was a pretty dumb box and it went back to a to a bunch of boards in a PDP 11 core equivalent machine and each, it was sort of like VGA, but every, every tube and keyboard was a separate, but a separate screen and keyboard and everything had to be drawn just sort of like an external. This was before X-terms or maybe, yeah, before they went to X-terms, but it was an interesting beast. All they did have to change the screen savers after a while because the favorite screen savers when this outfit, young teenagers and in the 80s were scanned pictures from playboy and I guess the administration found that that was not that was not exactly kosher, tab on a potentially public facing desktop. But what was versus that people would actually have that as a screen saver? MIT building 20, it was one of the last surviving remnants of the radar project to demighting and the screens were from the original PDP 1. Well, they were, they were from a PDP 11 that at one time was connected up to the AI PDP 1 and I have seen the AI PDP 1. I never saw it run, but it was a monster and the only thing more monstrous was the three or four IBM tape drives that were supposed to be attached to it. The IBM tape road. I worked on the the average old and PDP 8s and PDP 11s and Vax machines later. I worked on PDP 11s, I actually made a couple hand wire reps, some interfaces for receiving touchstone and turning it into data on an LSI PDP 11. Now, my machine was a dual drive TU58. This is a data cartridge drive machine running over a 38.4 K-bud link and it had two channel tape and under RT11 it was block replaceable tape. They were using a serial bus and a microscopic 885 microcontroller to do the job of a floppy disk. This is the same thing you might have had on your Vax to load your microcode, the little tiny kithet tape type data cartridges. Yeah, we used a cartridge sensor. Well, I'm just saying these were small, slow and slow and some all and one of the wizardry that the friend in mind did was put a bad block at the end of the tape so it never, ever spanned a file between channel A and channel B. I don't know what that means. Well, without the bad block being put in the magic location, you could have the front of your file on one on the end of one channel and the tail of your file on the second channel but it would require a rewind. Working straight forwardly, these drives were slow. Access was slow. If you allowed a file, I'll never use tape for either installing a system or for backups. Are you talking about using tape as data? I'm telling, I'm saying that this would have been the drive in a Vax that was used to load its microcode. It wouldn't be used as a data device. It was designed strictly for microcode updates and such. This is not a tape drive as you know them. No, okay, okay, I'll use that. I'll say that but I didn't understand the part about spanning in bad blocks and stuff. We did use the tape cartridges to install the operating system and do patches and stuff. Yes, but you probably used one that had had a good, had a lot smarter controller like a floppy drive controller. What this was over a synchronous serial nine at 38.4k, but the same speed that you would have heard dial up modems using. And the tape drives were cassette sized, I'm cassette sized and they would put data on one channel on the cassette and then rewind to tape and put data on the other channel on the cassette. So this wasn't like two channels of an 7 or 8 track tape. They were treated like basically like they were cassette and in order to get to the other side you'd have to do a rewind which would effectively flip the monger. The bad block was to make certain that if you're writing a file, all of the file was on one tape track and not split so that it would be spread between the end of one track and the beginning of the other one, meaning that when you were doing your access, you'd have to wait for a few minutes while the drive rewound all the way to the start of the second track. I guess I'll have to believe it because I didn't understand it that well. No, you probably don't. You dealt with probably T-76s and T-Whatever, T-553s, which were real honest to goodness. It looks like VHS tape tapes. They weren't vigilant. They didn't look like VHS. They were almost square. They were maybe less than an inch thick, maybe three quarters of an inch thick and kind of square about three and a half inches or so square and I think but it's been 40 years. Never mind. I know I'm just, that's not something I did for a very long time and so it's been a long, very long time, so I guess. Yeah, well it's such a thing. I'm talking I'm talking about a system whose editor was T-Co. Not a video T-Co ordinary text mode uh something it looked like edging or uh something more like Unix's Ed. No video just command input you know something that made VHS look like Microsoft Word. Well this would have been around 1989, 1986, some more long and there in 1987 maybe. Yeah, what's about that period? Well yeah, we had the micro we had the micro vaches that are you know about it's always a desktop and they're you know bigger than a little tower for a PC now and we had the the big facts that we used for the whole company kind of the kind of facts as well, facts the MS. Yeah, well the machine that I was using at MIT was on the internet but it was using an MIT rolled version of ether well a protocol similar to ethernet called chaos net which was home home grown at MIT and interoperated with the arpenet but was not ethernet as most people know it. This this includes vampire connections and all of the nastiness that of the early days of ethernet. Vampire connections that is to say you connected your computer by clamping this thing around a big coaxial cable and literally poking into the cable to make the connection. Well I probably talk all I remember about VHS, I worked on VHS for about a year and I did well thank stuff and then I went to do a doll stuff running a no veil and eventually well thank you very much that was when I was much younger and I was talking to a lot of the people if you read the book hackers I was talking to some of the people that were in that book and I was briefly a member of the tech model railroad club where they had a small PDP 11 that was a slave to a system that was controlled by a telephone crossbar relays which doing their switching for their model railroad. This is a whole wall of relays. You can keep talking I'm a wall down state I can hear you but I'm not able to say respond because I'm going downstairs for a year and maybe a bite. Apologies of part of my disability is that I don't pick up on social kills as I should. I'm not wired that way. No it was no cue. I just think I need another bear and I thought I look for a snack. I'll be gone about two minutes is all and if you actually say something that you would expect of his fonts I will have heard you but I will not respond because I'll not be downstairs. I'll be back in a minute. Yeah I had to pick up my kid. She taught me listening to country music. Did you ever work with Dawson? Oh yes and no I mean work with no play around with in the mid 90s yes because I had a really really old computer that my dad got when the military gave up on it. Well one of the people that I worked with was part of the founding of an outfit called FTP software and these were the people that would put your MSDOS machine on the internet before Windows 95 and my time at MIT was back when MIT main computer was a massive Honeywell 645 before they jumped over to distributed computing and project Athena and this stuff that gave us the X Windows system and stuff like that. So I predate X Windows. Was it Dawson 3.2? 6.2? 6.2? I think they had it for all the Dawson's and probably as a driver package for Windows 3.1 and 3.1 month. Probably Dawson 2.1 back then. Well I didn't know them when they were running FTP software. I just knew that they went from the outfit that I was working for which was doing touchstone to voice response systems. We would build a box with a PDP 11 with like four gigs of four megs of memory and an audio output board and a touchstone interface and to your system it would look like some kind of terminal or printer or whatever you had to do to do IO on it and it would when somebody entered a touchstone it would output a pre-recorded voice message. It was back in the days when the IRS was first starting out with if you want such and such press one type stuff. Thank you folks for letting me exercise my dinosaur mode. You're always good for a story. Well my first mass storage device was teletype punch paper tape 10 characters for a second and a good storage system was a pipe plate. Pirate. May we know where you're calling from? I'm over in Seattle. Specifically DevHack, the career hacker space up here in the university districts. Well I'm within a couple of blocks of tidewater on East Coast so we're going across country tonight. Since I started out punching basic code into a teletype ASR 33 I really understood where Juno's got those very cryptic commands. You didn't want to punch anymore characters into that dick. Teletype and you had to. Well happy to New Year's y'all on the East Coast there. Well thank you very much. And I hope the weather's not too bad out there. It's nice and well I won't say sign but it's clear out and it's cool and chilly side but you know. Well my little weather widget here says that we got like 26 degrees with a wind trail of 14 and the icon says something's I don't know whether it's snow or rain. I'm sorry I heard a lot of nope there. Maybe I'm not hitting it but push the top all right. Oh no I heard it just fine. It just all sounded like nope started saying things like snow and cold. Uh oh you're a boy boy. Damn right. You got to remember my grandfather in West Virginia had a farm in the place that got the most snow in the Blizzard of 78 of the entire mess and my uncle lives up and lived up in Bangor or Maine which made Boston seem like the club med. I still don't know how they ever got that shot of a guy's full moon in the back seat of an F-101 Voodoo. Yeah my uncle was aviation mechanic on Voodoo's and a bunch of other stuff. He also did fire flights on firewatch flights on his off off days and I had the pleasure of enjoying one of those when I was a teenager. Fun times. I wanted to go. Also I was in the middle seat on a Bangor Brewster international airport when they were switching planes on on the ready flight. This is cold war stuff and I have been in a truck tailgating a jet fighter. The guy driving said that couldn't hear the orders over the jet engines. And the Taurus said just follow that noisy thing. Steering up the tailpipes of a jet at bumper to bumper range is an impressive thing. Imagine it would be. That's just here for the queer computer club in Toronto, Canada. Oh by the way if you like odd computers there's a rather nice emulation of the PDPA and PDPA 11 including blinking light front panels available for the Raspberry Pi. They don't have one for the Boston Green Pi. No we don't have a Boston Green Pi. And I don't think we can really emulate it very well. I agree. Only the real thing. Yeah well. Yeah Boston is. Yeah I'm just just been thinking about Green Pi. No I was actually thinking about molasses. Boston had an unfortunate incident where they had had somebody build a large storage tank for molasses who didn't know what he was doing. And the one that blew out of the town. Yep in the middle of winter. Also around here the streets generally wander around like they were made by a drumken cow but there are a few streets here that are straight as a string. They're originally private funded toll roads. Yes turn like toll house cookie types. Back in the colonial times or early America if you wanted to put in a toll road you went to the legislature. They got a committee together of farmers and generally very physically conservative Yankees and they would tell you where you could put your toll road from town to town. These were one of the very few roads that were generally extremely straight. So if you run into an extremely straight road around here it originated because some very savvy farmers and merchants didn't want to pay an extra penny or fraction there out for a road that wandered too much. This led to some roads that must have been really hell to keep functioning in the days of dirt of unpaid roads because they went straight up and down slopes where a modern road would arc around but these these skin flints would not have you put a curve in where a straight could do. Things aren't awful quiet out there anybody out there? Is that flying rich? It is not. That sounded like flying rich. Merr, no exactly how to take that. Can you hear me? I can hear you, can you hear me? Five by five. Oh, that was Merr. And now I can't hear anybody. What's wrong with my headset? I can't give you a second. What? This is Raymond. I'll call for you if it's just about half a minute here. Hey, Merr, if I was chewing on something when you said you're anybody there so I couldn't respond. Oh, things just sounded awful quiet. Well, I was rattling on but I decided to give people here as a break. Oh, we just hit the new year here on the East Coast. So I have some very good news for Joe though. Okay, can I hear you now? I can hear you, Joe. Oh, damn it. So does 20, 20, 16 better than 20, 25, yeah? It's a little early to say but bars pretty low. Are you not in California? Who me when I said just hit New Year's here on the East Coast, I'm on the East Coast. Me too. But if you want to get a real quick idea of whether 20, 25, and 20, 26 are going to be good for you. I must know if you're in the state of California. Yep, still on the East Coast. So no, not in California. Then you're going to have a marvel of the good year. California is going to lose it 20% of 20% of its fuel output in the next couple of months. All right, now I can hear your papers. And over 450 gas stations. They, okay. Also on the East Coast, they're probably going to be fine for fuel and we may have bad government but we don't have California bad government yet. That's okay in California, they'll need fuel but use electricity. Ah yes, the people who can do their renewable energy but because it ain't sexy, they can't keep the trees trimmed around their grid. But I've got really good news for Joe's New Year's Day. In my area, it's predicted to be 12 degrees tomorrow. Well, later this afternoon, with a 25-month-hour wind wind. That's why when I tell you that, I'm glad you're not there. Yep. Yeah, I'm going to be burrowed in under the covers and what probably will be too since I got the day. Oh, it definitely does. You know, I'll be caught on the cover. Yeah, I like your priorities, sir. I really support your priorities, Indie. And please give my best to your priority. All of them. And tell them all that they were missed. Okay, well, I might be able to convince Tala to come in and say hi. Go. Hopefully my 3D printer quit's making it. I mean, is Tala the lady that I know is Ms. Short? Yes. She is the short one. She isn't planning on going to college in Boston, is she? No, I think she was thinking about going to Colorado. Well, Colorado is where my brother got his last deer with his grilled guard. Yep, I think I think if you get a deer with the semi-track that's considered a large caliber. And you are supposed to clean up roadkill when you make it. I don't know if it's a licensed violation as you are. How can I put you? I wonder, well, they would probably frown on him putting a freshly killed deer on top of the load of deer that he was carrying. It's got a hood. Got the brush garden front. That's what it's for. Shut that thing on there. Mad Max style. Yeah, I hear from my brother when he's all in stuff through like veil and some of the other places when he's gone through the passes. And generally things get interesting, although since he doesn't put chains on, he avoids the worst of the Western winter weather. When they order chains, he just goes to a truck stop or something and hunkers down and to the roads are cleared. Yeah, I would hate being a trucker. Well, his wife is riding with him, so he's situation improved. She also, she's a second driver. No, but, um, well, there's a lot of chains. No, but, um, she's there to back up the APU keeping him warm in the winter. She's there to ground God. Maybe, although since he's been married a few times, this arrangement seems to be the one where it keeps his wife happy better than leaving her home alone for several weeks at a time. Each one could change in the snow. It's not even fun. Well, not only does he have to put on chains on on all axles if he was going to chain up, but if the chains break loose, he has to bite, he has to pay for them and chains for a truck aren't cheap stuff. Oh, and there's another company which follows all of the regulations for carrying chains on their tractors. The chains, however, on their chain rack, do not fit the tires on the tractor, but they do carry chains with them so that they meet, they do obey the regulations. Yeah, that's what I would do. Now, another guy that I saw on YouTube has what they call auto chains. These are, or this is a gadget. It has a bunch of chains on a spitting arrangement, so the chains are thrown in front of the tires and the tire rolls over the chains and that produces traction and then the things spins around again and the next chain comes up under the tire as the truck is moving forward. So he doesn't have to put on chains, he just drops this widget down and leaves it spinning as he's driving along. It kind of looks like a metal. So Murphy, our things going in your neck of the woods. Well, you overall environment is fine. I've been going through some medical stuff that I want to get into details with, but so it's been a fairly rough month. Yeah, well, a few years ago. Well, decades now, but when I was younger, I had my throat cut professionally twice, so, you know, I've been there done that, a t-shirt. My thyroid just didn't get the memo about behaving, so they removed it. That's rough. I've got some some hard stuff going on, so a little bit scary. Well, you know, we're all praying for you, even though it's who don't say it. Thanks for that. Oh, I was just laughing a minute. As a kid, I had a lot of super numerary teeth. T-shirts up in my gums before my adult teeth would come down. I had to go into the hospital to have my regular teeth removed and those teeth removed. Both times I went in, I would come home and my brother hit me into mouth. At least he was consistent. Yeah, I'm open to a fight through the insurance companies and get the second part of this deal completed, so I can start thinking about getting back on track with my life here, but so far they are fighting me to the nail with it. How can they argue that? Okay, there's one word, lawyers, and that's why back in the day, when Massachusetts was under much more conservative government, at one time, I think it was illegal to be a lawyer and Massachusetts. Unfortunately, that law has been repealed. Of course, if you're wrongly brought up on murder charges, hiring a stand-up comedian to defend you and court probably won't work out so well either. Yeah, well, yeah, my brother got into totally fake beef. Um, and his lawyer, let it go up to appeal because that got him an extra $3,500. And his buddy didn't go through the appeal, got his suspended sentence in a record, where my brother got off completely in clean. But then again, my brother's buddy had a lawyer, which was a brother-in-law, and some of the times he couldn't defend the buddy because he was under court orders to defend somebody else, a lawyer which they have to escort to court with a marshal is not really the kind. I mean, this makes like my cousin Vinnie look like F. Lee Bailey. Happy New Year. Happy New Year. Happy New Year, indeed. Better one ahead, I hope. Happy New Year. How's everybody's New Year going? I'll tell you in about 30 minutes or so. How's hockey game? It was good. It came out, well, eight fours. Good quality game. But he fights. Yeah, that as up here in the land of the Bruins, fights are still considered a feature, not a bug. Yeah, well, as long as you're not watching an NHL game, you're probably going to see some fights. And even in an NHL game, you will see some, it'll just be less of them, and they'll be much more controlled. Yeah, whenever I think of hockey fights, I think of the Z1 song, hit somebody. I think of the song, Fight Dirty. I think of the movie Slap Shop. That makes sense. By the way, I haven't talked much, but I, it does my audio sound better than did before. So, but I think it's because you're talking. Well, that's a given. I can't fix that. No, you sound fine. One good game was a little high. We're getting a lot of the the semblance, but it's, you know, nothing worrisome. That's just, you know, me being nitpicky, though. I might be from me playing around with it before. It was very bad for me. It sounds much better now. Oh, it's good. It probably was because my headset needed to get to recharge properly to shut everything down for a while. Let's see. Oh, to have a glass of whiskey or not. This late at night, you might as well. I'm wrong. I'm glad you said that. I was just about to finish my last beer. I remember I am whiskey. I don't like I need to go get a glass. I'll be back. I have rum and I have beer. It's 12.38 at night. I've been up since about 4.30. It's not time and we're wearing a change. Finish an off the last of my screwball. I'm not going to go with that knocking rum. Ah, I had to hit in somewhere. Am I the only tea totaler here that has to deal with reality? Is it already exists? You know, this is probably the fruit drink I have had in. But when was last time I drank hockey? Do you remember? Oh, you're muted now. Nope. Oh, no, you're not. When was the last time I drank? How long has it been? I'll play again. Well, hockey was there last time I drank. So it's probably been two or three years. Don't hurt yourself. Yeah, well, I was, I used to have like one or two beers a year, but then they put me on some medication, which makes alcohol contraindicated. Bad medication, get more, get some different medication. So last New Year's, you didn't drink because you were dealing with a lot of stuff. Well, let me say the New Year's before you were drinking. No, no, the New Year's before my dog died. Oh, the New Year's before? That you don't know if that was last year. No, that was the last year. It was the year before. And then I don't remember why I didn't drink last year. I just think I didn't think about it. But the, so I had to be the year before that year before my dog died. And I know I got pretty, I did the last time I got drunk was 2022. And that was because I got stupid. And a Marine decided to drink with me. And I said, okay. Well, I've recently heard Eleanor's Roosevelt's description of the Marines and no wonder you got in trouble and go, this is, I think maybe got the, I do have some salted caramel whiskey. That sounds good. Yeah, I found it really good. It is tasty. But I think I will save that for next year. I know what you did. What did I do? I'm not talking to you. Well, if you know what I did, you got to tell me. Listen, you're too good to go and get see. I'm not. I'm not working now. Our people actually on JetCat asked earlier, but I don't remember getting an answer. Yeah, I did get a second working from around. It's a slash HPR. If other people want to know, it's jitzie.minics.dev slash HPR. There's a link on the HPR website, but it's it's just H slash HPR, not slash HPR and my, I've been asked, kind of fixed that earlier. Is that a, is that a Spider-Man Christmas sweater or is that just a sweatshirt? Pretty. Pretty. Okay. Murphy pardon me, but can I know a little more about what count of these coasts you may be on? A little bit new jersey. Well, pretty, I've heard some parts of it are pretty nice. You heard wrong. Southern Jersey's kind of nice or middle, whether there's a storm land. Yeah. Hey, you know what I'm fine with that attitude. There's too many people here are ready. So if you're dissatisfied, please, by all means go somewhere else anywhere else is fine. The problem, the problem with New Jersey is basically the same problem with everything north of me. Snow. Yeah. That's the one. Well, that's a problem I cannot deny. I still they tax you if you try to leave or jersey. Yeah. Uh, you know, take it as you will. Again, you know, if you had this particular outman, go for it. You don't get, you guys won't have to pump your own gas. That's correct. Yeah, because, you know, people say, you know, I want to pop you, you realize those jobs that people are pumping the gas. Well, always be there. There'll just be a difference if, you know, if they get rid of that law, no one will pump gas. They, you know, that will not exist as it does. Most other places. It's hard to find self-serve. Um, that job will still exist, though. We'll be doing it for free. So I'm just as happy having somebody else do that and still have some of the lower gas prices in the area. Sure. Also, you can stay in a warm car. Well, some other push-up is out there dealing with, you know, metal pump handles and everything. Yeah, exactly. So you, you like self-service, man. Go for it. I'm all for it for you. Uh, I'll take people pumping the gas. And I'm perfectly capable of pumping my own when I'm in other states. And that's fine. But the status quo was just fine in that regard. By the way, I used to be a security guard on a condo complex. So I spent my time as that club out there in the cold, going around controlling areas where, well, everybody else would safe and warm. When here's on a coastal peninsula, can, uh, can be entirely too damn interesting, even without snow. Yeah, I'm not going to Chicago either. Well, I got to tell you, I want to Chicago in the summer. I always work working on this place, but I didn't handle this particular issue. Now, we had an entertainment facility, whatever you call it. It had a pool, it had bathroom showers, etc. And it had a place where you could have parties. This place had thunder block walls, precast concrete ceilings, concrete floors. Well, one new year's Eve, a couple of bosos got into trouble. They got into a beef with each other. And I will tell you, the smartest use of a pistol I've ever heard of in this environment. The description I gave you tells you that this is Ricochet City. Well, what the boso did was open his coat, let his enemy see the shoulder host or he was packing in the pistol. And well, well, the guy was focused on the pistol, the target was sucker punched. Under those conditions, I will have to give the pistol carrier props for the best use of a pistol and to those circumstances that I can imagine. That is to say, using a pistol as a bait for a sucker punch. Now, wearing a pistol around a bunch of potentially drunk people is stupid, but at least when it came down to the beef, the guy was smart enough not to use the pistol as a fain and use nature's weapons instead. Rocks and sticks. I think he used his fists, but then there was a guy who fell out the window adjusting in window air conditioner in a central air condition unit. Unfortunately, there was cement deck below him, so I think he didn't feel very good. There are reasons to use a window unit over central air, especially if you're planning on staying in like one room with a house, it's a small area of the house that you need to keep a little bit cooler for whatever reason. It saves on electricity. Yeah, well, these units were all heated and cooled by heat pumps run off a central boiler. Oh, folks, I think I'm going to get out of here. Happy New Year to everyone and catch you some other time. Happy New Year. Good luck, man. Happy New Year. Thanks. Happy New Year, Murphy. You have been listening to the Hacker Public Radio podcast, at hackerpublicradio.org. Today's show was contributed by a HPR listener like yourself. If you ever thought of recording a podcast, then visit the HPR site to find out how easy it really is. Hosting for HPR has been kindly provided by anhonesthost.com, the Internet Archive, rsync.net, and the HPR Community Content Delivery Network. Unless otherwise stated, today's show is released under a Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International (CC BY-SA 4.0) license.