Episode: 2893 Title: HPR2893: Whats in the box! Part 2 Source: https://hub.hackerpublicradio.org/ccdn.php?filename=/eps/hpr2893/hpr2893.mp3 Transcribed: 2025-10-24 12:51:35 --- This is HPR episode 2008193 entitled What's in the Box. Part 2 and is part of the series, hobby electronics, it is hosted by NY Wheel and is about 12 minutes long and carries a clean flag. The summer is, and it will finish in a guitar pedal kit to present him. This episode of HPR is brought to you by archive.org. Support universal access to all knowledge by heading over to archive.org forward slash donate. Hello this is NY Bill and a few weeks ago I ordered electronics kit and it just came yesterday and I brought the box upstairs and today I was going to open up the box and maybe start messing around with it on the bench and I looked over and the bench is trashed as always and right in the middle of the bench is that tremolo pep pedal that Tim Timmy gave me way the heck back when it's still sitting here in the same state it was the last time I recorded it. So I figured I better fool around with this first before I get into another project so I looked at the board closer to see what was going on and I overlook something back when I first built this. If anybody gets this and I could take a picture of the instructions as well. I was looking at the board for dry solder joints and while I'm on the back of it I realized there's two unpopulated pads. So I start looking at the drawing here and it's pad. What is that? PWB and PWC we're not populated so I keep looking around the instructions and I realize what these are. If you have a guitar pedal and you plug the input in that closes the connection to the ground loop, the negative in the pedal and turns the pedal on. That's why sometimes, well not sometimes, if you got a boss pedal and you leave them plugged in with batteries and you just kill the batteries because you're leaving the pedal on all the time. So this PWC comes out of the input jack so when you plug the tip of the guitar in the negative of the circuit gets closed between you. If you look down inside the jack you got the one tip that goes to the one pin that goes to the tip of the guitar that's where your signal is going to go in and then you have the long negative ground shaft of your guitar cord. That's what's going to make a connection to two other pieces there and that's going to close the negative to the battery into the board. I did all that and I go and I start testing around and I have zero volts and I go up to my battery and I have zero volts and I realize something shorted. So I made a little progress and then I found a second problem. I omitted the battery and I kept looking at the instructions. There's these instructions, I don't know if I mentioned this in the previous one, it's just like a zero copy of a, there's no instructions on it. There's no, you know, do this, do that, do this, you just got to figure things out. So I keep looking around and I realize on the DC jack there is also a PWC connection. So that's if you don't have a battery and you plug this in with a power supply there you're making that negative connection to turn on the board. So both in the input jack and the DC jack and as I looked closer I had the positive and the PWC, you know, reversed on that jack. So that's where my short was. So I fixed that as well and I just put a battery in it and I had burned out the original LED messing around with it before. I think I had a bad LED and I put it on too much voltage and I popped it. It happens. It's fun to do sometimes. You can get these so cheap. But anyways, I found another LED after making these modifications and I'm playing with an LED right now just with my fingers. I gotta figure out which way is what. And there it's lit up green. I'm not going to use a green LED in a green case but there's a picture of a green LED. So now I'm wondering if we have signal. So I got to get a guitar and well first I got a solder this LED up permanent. So I'll do that. Let me find another color. Maybe blue would be cool. It would be blue and green. Let me get some LEDs. I found a blue. I got a solder this in here. Let me make sure I get it the correct way. All right, the blue LED is in and it's going on and off. Now let's see if we have any sound. Let me turn on the amp. I got to get another cord, a guitar. Let's try a good old S-Paul this time. I don't really plug in that much anymore. I misplaced these the quarter inch jacks. I don't know if you just... If you just start all that racket, I'm looking for the jack. I can't find it. And it's because it's on a hook that's on my door and my door is always open and I like hang my belts there and some other things. When I open the door to go look in the other room, they all made a racket. All right, maybe that was a head to beat there. All right, let's see. The amp is on. Let me go in. Oh, I can hear something already. A little bit closer. Can you hear that? Yep, it's... we got a tremolo. There's volume working. We'll see the other one. Volume, depth, and speed. That all that buzz is because it's not in a guitar yet. Hang on. It should be... I hope it clears up. There we go. Oh, it's working. There's volume. There's depth. And there's the speed. Awesome. All right, so it pays to double check your work or I didn't even double check work there because I didn't do the work in the first place. Let me turn this off and try and get it all in this case. Okay, I'm just starting to put it together and I realize if anybody builds one of these, you have to solder the wall wart, the plug-in for the battery pack. You have to solder that after it's in the case. There's no way for me to get it in the case the way it is. The nut is on the back of it. So I'm going to have to desider this and switch things around. Oh, and I need a battery in my... I have no battery left in this recorder. I think it drains the battery as it sits in the off position because it was a fresh battery last time I recorded. It just sat there for a month. All right, well, I'm rambling. Okay, so there it is all in one piece and let me try it that I hope I didn't get anything shorted together while I was closing the case up. Put the input in. Okay, I still see a blue light. That's good. I think it chords everywhere. This uh, let's call humbuckers really make this. This is a little uh, I don't know who makes this. It comes out of China, but it's a little like five watt one watt two band. These humbuckers make this thing scream. Let me turn the game down. Okay, and uh, turn to a reverb. And let's see what this sounds like. We have a tremble. It's too much bass. I think I was playing a telecaster in this last, so I had it... I had it bassy. Let's balls are bassy. Well, I'm sure you don't want to sit there and hear me noodle around this thing, but uh, okay, it's back. It's in one piece. The uh, the problems that I had with it were all because of me. I think I was just rushing it. I was building it too fast last time. I needed to slow down and taking a little break from it for a little while actually did help because I came back with fresh eyes and immediately saw that, you know, I didn't immediately see the problem, but I immediately saw that there was unpopulated pads and it got me thinking, why would they have those pads there if they don't do anything? So that got me down the, the path of getting this thing going. So I thank you again Marshall. It was a fun project and we got two HPRs out of it. I know this is a short one, but it's just like a follow up to that first one just to get a little closure that if you order one of these things, I still don't know where he got this. So I don't know if you want to leave a, in the uh, comment section, Marshall, if you want to just leave a URL where you found these other people might be interested, but uh, no, I'm not going to play the HPR or the join us now and share this off with you. See you later. 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