Episode: 3418 Title: HPR3418: My gEeeky Experiment - Part 2 Source: https://hub.hackerpublicradio.org/ccdn.php?filename=/eps/hpr3418/hpr3418.mp3 Transcribed: 2025-10-24 22:59:47 --- This is Hacker Public Radio Episode 3418 for Wednesday, the 8th of September 2021. To its show is entitled, My Geeky Experiment, Part 2. It is hosted by Claudio Miranda and is about 11 minutes long and carries a clean flag. The summary is Claudio talks about how he installed Haku on an SSEE PC 900A, received from a friend. This episode of HPR is brought to you by An Honesthost.com. Get 15% discount on all shared hosting with the offer code HPR15. That's HPR15. Better web hosting that's Honest and Fair at An Honesthost.com. Hey everyone, this is Claudio Miranda, also known as Claudio M on Macedon and IRC and other online sites. I wanted to record this episode where I'm following up with my last episode which was entitled My Geeky Experiment and in that one I had talked about taking my old ASUS EPC 901 netbook and putting OpenBSD on it. On this one I'm going to take another netbook of the same family that was sent to me by a friend sometime in early 2020 late 2019 or on there and it's an ASUS EPC 900A which is the predecessor to the 901. Cosmatically they do look different and I think the 901 had some changes to address issues with the 900A's design but internally they're exactly the same thing. So this time around I wanted to install HIKU or the HIKU operating system onto the 900A. So if you're not familiar with HIKU, HIKU is an operating system that is the open source continuation of the B operating system also known as BOS. Now BOS was actually created by a company in the 90s called B-Ink which was founded by Jean-Louis Guesset who was actually actually worked at Apple prior to starting that company and they created the BOS. They actually had their own computer they called it the B box and it initially had the AT&T Hobbit CPUs but eventually they moved over to the PowerPC 603 and as time passed they started supporting the the Power Macintosh clones that came out and as a matter of fact I actually have a Motorola StarMax 4000 mini tower which has it has a 160 megahertz PowerPC 604E and that one is running BOS R5 5.0.3. So I'm going to post the I'm going to in the show notes I'll post a video of that running and booting up along with links to the HIKU website and the Wikipedia pages for HIKU BOS and and being incorporated. So back to the topic of hand so I wanted to go ahead and put HIKU on this netbook so I downloaded a nightly that they have on the download page for HIKU and I went ahead and I proceeded to do the installation I put it onto a USB flash drive booted up off of that flash drive on the netbook and I was presented with the installer for HIKU and it's super simple I just went ahead and using an app that that comes with the installation called Drive Setup to blow away whatever was on the drive itself on the E and prepare it so that I can install HIKU on this. So once I did that I proceeded with the installation all the included packages were installed and within few minutes later I was able to reboot and get this thing running HIKU. So a couple of things that I didn't notice with this. As quick and easy as it was to do I had some issues with the post installation if you will. For one the trackpad which is an Elantec trackpad on the 900A it worked I can move the mouse around but I couldn't use the buttons. So I think the only way it would register is if I did it like a touch click but everything else the right clicking and all that did not work so I actually had to plug into a USB mouse to get to the files and folders and all that and the applications. Now when I checked to see how it was detected how the trackpad was detected I noticed that it was detected as a PS2 mouse. So I figured well let me check and see on HIKU Depot which is their package manager for the HIKU applications and I looked to see if there was a driver package for that trackpad but I could not find anything. I couldn't find the driver package for any trackpad as a matter of fact so I just dealt with the having to use a USB mouse sorry. The other issue that I noticed was that it didn't detect the resolution correctly on this netbook. Now the highest resolution the maximum resolution you can get on this netbook is 1024x600. The only way I could get it to display properly was if I set it to 800 by 600 because if I did it by 1024 if I did it at 1024 by 600 it wouldn't it wouldn't it wouldn't set the resolution for the entire screen and would cut off the screen so it was weird it was it was a video glitch on that nightly release of HIKU for this thing. Fortunately the Wi-Fi did work so I was able to update packages and download some other packages just to test out aren't. Now the reason why I wanted to put HIKU on this is because given that BOS was known for its multimedia capabilities I figured well this is the continuation of that so maybe I can test some things out with my synth I got a Yamaha synth that has the full ADA keys and the the EPC both the 901 and the 900A are small enough that they sit right on the top of the panel right right above the keys themselves so it fits perfectly not not like my other laptop which kind of is too big for it to be on there it can sit on it but I get a little nervous so but this is perfect it just sits perfectly right there and just to test some apps so the good thing is that I can just plug it in with a USB cable since the synthesizer itself has a USB port so I don't have to fiddle around with a a USB to MIDI adapter and then you know I just connect it directly so that was that's not the not what I had hoped to be the result on this netbook but that was a while back that was like I said early 2020 and just recently the HIKU team released R1 beta 3 so I said let me give it a try now and see what's changed if anything's changed or not so I downloaded that went through the whole song and dance of creating the USB and and booting off that and I went ahead and installed it I blew away what it had on there since I didn't really use it for anything and installed R1 beta 3 now the changes were that the screen resolution this time was properly detected and set at 1024 by 600 which made a world of difference I had more screen resolution a desktop space I had it was just an all-around better experience previous versus before the before this release of the browser called web positive were very buggy and unstable but in this release actually was very good very stable and I was even even able to load discord and mess it on on on web positive and there were a few glitches there were like the button icons wouldn't show up on the pages but I'm sure the the HIKU team will address that in future releases during the nightlies again the only drawback I came across with this was once again the trackpad it was still detected as a ps2 mouse and the button still did not work so I'll have to continue using a a USB mouse with this for the time being however I do want to look at probably installing HIKU on my 901 because I am actually looking at replacing the 901 with something that's not as it's just as small it's an 11.6 inch notebook but it comes with a third generation i5 or a third generation i7 CPU so that would put me in the 64-bit camp so that I can run open BSD on that and that laptop is the HP Elite book 2170P so a little bit down the road I'm going to try and see if I can get that and that will be my go-to for taking a work and whatnot but and that way I can move all my stuff from the 901 over to that and put HIKU on the 901 itself since it has the full two gigs of RAM now to be honest you really don't need that much RAM with HIKU this 900A only has one gig and it's still blazingly fast so I'll put all the links in the show notes talking about HIKU and the history of HIKU and BOS and all that along with a couple of other things I'll even put the link to my blog post that talks about this with the exception of the R1 beta 3 installation so that you guys can look it over anyway thanks for listening I hope you enjoyed this and be on the lookout for part three where I talk about how I perform some upgrades on my 901 anyways if you get a chance please record an episode for Hacker Public Radio we're always in need of shows and you don't have to be a fancy podcaster or anything just recorder show on your phone about something that interests you and even if you think nobody's going to be interested trust me there's always something that is of interest to hackers on Hacker Public Radio I hope to hear from one of your episodes soon and and uh well you will hear from me soon so take care have a good one bye bye you've been listening to Hacker Public Radio at Hacker Public Radio dot org we are a community podcast network that releases shows every weekday Monday through Friday today's show like all our shows was contributed by an HBR listener like yourself if you ever thought of recording a podcast then click on our contributing to find out how easy it really is Hacker Public Radio was founded by the digital dog pound and the infonomicom computer club and it's part of the binary revolution at binrev.com if you have comments on today's show please email the host directly leave a comment on the website or record a follow-up episode yourself unless otherwise status today's show is released on the creative comments attribution share a light 3.0 license