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Episode: 708
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Title: HPR0708: Enterprise resource planning
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Source: https://hub.hackerpublicradio.org/ccdn.php?filename=/eps/hpr0708/hpr0708.mp3
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Transcribed: 2025-10-08 01:16:31
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You.
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Good day and welcome to this episode of Hacker Public Radio.
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My name is JW and sometimes I do the JWP Linux and open source podcast but a couple of
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times I've done the Hacker Public Radio and I thought I'd come back to y'all.
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Then I normally just do topics here that I wouldn't normally do with the JWP Linux and
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open source podcast but what I wanted to talk about was Linux and Enterprise space and
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in particular Linux and ERP lately and what's been going on and specifically problems
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that I've been seeing professionally and even a little bit privately as I move through
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the internet online, the emergence of a third distribution inside of SAP is something
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that's really, really major.
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I think we all heard that Oracle was doing a copy that cat thing with Red Hat and I
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mean they have every ride at GPL and if they want to sell their support cheaper than
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Red Hat then they can rebrand and read the whole thing and it's completely fair.
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But now they've added a new wrinkle to the mix more or less.
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They added a support person at the SAP and now its Oracle Enterprise Linux is supported
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to run SAP and then Oracle starts with all of their other enterprise products are slowly
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being phased out from Red Hat.
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So there may be a fork, I mean they may fork, the SAP said as much as they may fork in
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the future.
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But right now we're just talking real five, not real six because real six isn't supported
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in production right now for SAP but the emergence of both vendors Red Hat and Novel struggle
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with cluster and particularly the stretch cluster in the ERP space and by far in the enterprise
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space the biggest database vendor in the ERP market for both Oracle apps, people soft
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and SAP is Oracle with their database and so Oracle entering the market with and then having
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extremely restrictive notes with products like their ASM and if you've read the SAP note
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about using Zen or KVM with Oracle database it's pretty draconian and of course Oracle
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KVM is in the near future or right now is going to be supported in the enterprise space.
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So I mean it's going to be a really tough competition for especially Red Hat.
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I mean Novel is a little more entrenched in the SAP space and then Red Hat basically
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because SAP is a German company, its World Headquarters is in the Waldorf Germany and
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the Suza was in Nuremberg and it's very close, it's very close, as a matter of fact 75%
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of all Linux on SAP pre-configured solutions are what they call, appliance solutions are
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done with Novel only so the HANA, the BIA, the E-search, the T-Rex, all of this is more
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or less done only on Novel stack but you know the key thing has always been HA, you're
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paying for ERP application and you've got five or six hundred workers working on it
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and you're paying for HA, it's great that you're having two socket box and it's cheap
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and you're going to run Novel and some of them you may have a support contract on
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and some of them you may not have a support contract on but this is a real game changer
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that Oracle comes into the game that was dominated by two, I want to say smaller Linux companies
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and now Oracle is going to put its muscle there and you know I really think in the ERP space
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that if I look down the street two or three more days years that I don't even see Red Hat
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competing in the enterprise space anymore that with Oracle there and with such a large
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percentage of customers running the Oracle database on Linux and the restrictive policies
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that Oracle has with Red Hat to compete, yeah I really don't see it, I know that they had
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a really great quarter and a BIA dollar quarter and everything but I mean from my view you know
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working in the ERP field it's you know with Oracle's announcement and they're given a person
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to SAP for the Linux development it really really is the nail and the coffin of especially Red Hat
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you know Novel to have the preconfigured appliances that they can run on but even Novel has
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problems with the cluster now there's several white papers from both companies about how to do
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this or how to do that but I'm telling you you got your Oracle database and you know you're
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talking to a customer and it's you know blah blah blah you know especially if you're looking at
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you know deploying Solars or AIX or HPUX and trying to get that cluster and the five nons out of
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that thing and so it's and then the amount of users you know that you can get on a Linux
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up to your Linux solution I mean it's it's very very hard to scale that database you know without
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Oracle so what are you going to use Max DB you're going to use you know you're going to go DB2
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what exactly are you going to use to to do that right and I mean each thing has its cost but
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the problem with Max DB is that there's not you know there's very few customers that have more than
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5,000 users on Max DB right and you can be that and and then it's you have to have a shop that
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knows about Max DB okay whereas you know every Indian company in the world that does support or
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SI integration and of course the big house is a sensor captivity autos warge and all those you
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know they have lots of Oracle people and so Max DB on Linux is not while a lot cheaper it's not
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really the solution and we don't have very many people scaling you know the past a thousand users
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really with that and it's very hard for references whereas Oracle you know you get the the whole
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enterprise and with Oracle they really don't care if they get above a thousand users if there's a
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difficulty well then they just sell a couple of spark blades and then and then that they're running
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so large and any vendor HP or IBM will just just slip in a couple of blades of their other and
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then they're you know easily scaling to 3,000 users with 5,000 so it's just a little update guys I
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hope that you know it didn't bore y'all too much with the ERP and it's not very geeky or anything
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so you'll have a great day and if y'all need me you can reach me at jwp5 at hotmail.com
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thank you very much bye
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thank you for listening to Hack the Public Radio
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