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Episode: 836
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Title: HPR0836: Jeff from No Machine
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Source: https://hub.hackerpublicradio.org/ccdn.php?filename=/eps/hpr0836/hpr0836.mp3
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Transcribed: 2025-10-08 03:15:39
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I'm at Ohio Linux Fest talking to some guy from no machine.
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What is your name?
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My name is Jeff Feige.
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Hi Jeff.
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How are you doing?
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Pretty good.
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So I kind of read up on your data sheet about no machine and frankly I don't feel like
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I could even try to summarize it.
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So what is no machine exactly?
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No machine is a method for secure access to hosted desktops and hosted desktops can be
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anything from your personal desktop at your house to a cluster of desktops at an office
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or where a cluster of desktops is in the cloud.
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Nice.
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So it's a little bit like VNC or something like that perhaps?
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A little bit like Citrix.
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Citrix is a little more mature than us so they have more features set.
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A little like VNC, a little like Citrix, VNC is screen scraping technology.
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We are kind of piggybacking on top of X.
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Gotcha.
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Okay that's interesting.
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What does the NX stand for?
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It seems like your data sheet is talking a lot about no machine in X software.
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What is that?
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It stands for no X.
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So basically right, yeah so the concept there is that we don't have to do an X forwarding
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to bring applications back to your desktop.
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And this is cross-platform, correct?
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The server side is currently Linux only but the desktop side or remote side is available
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on Mac, Windows, Linux, so does cloud cross-platform.
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We do plan on having a Windows server piece out hopefully by the end of the year.
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Okay, not that anyone cares but the Linux server is fine.
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That's the low-hanging fruit, right?
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Yeah.
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Okay, so what, I mean, I don't know, I'm just a plain old user, I'm not a programmer, I'm
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not a big business, is this something that I would be interested in looking at or is
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this like sort of for the SysAdmin's out there with a bunch of stuff going on?
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It's actually both.
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If you use a Linux desktop at home, you would certainly want to look at it.
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If you want to access that desktop from somewhere, it is without a doubt the best way to do
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that.
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From the casual user to the SysAdmin who has a particular application, they may not be
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able to access from the shell remotely that they would want to bring across X to increase
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that performance or for an enterprise that wants to do VDI-type solutions hosting multiple
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of that stuff for multiple users.
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Okay, very cool and obviously the next question is what about security?
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What kind of stuff is, I mean, is this based on SSH or something or is it?
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We use SSH for our carrier protocol, so all of the security that's available in the
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SSH protocol is ingrained into our product from the get-go.
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Got you.
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All right, that's actually really neat.
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Is it free?
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Is it support?
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What's the model here?
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We have a couple different products.
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We have a free product that is available for downloads, free for life, download it, use
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it multiple two concurrent users and then our products go up from there.
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So we have supported products, so when you buy our product, you get a year's worth of
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support and it's a subscription-based product.
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Okay, so just to clarify, because all of a sudden this is becoming something that I could
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actually see some uses for in my day job, so just to clarify, if you didn't want to
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set up for instance a VNC on the server that lets people in, you could actually, as
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long as their desktop computer at the job has the support for no machine, then they could
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access that from outside, as long as you're like, okay, with the whole SSH thing.
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Absolutely, and you could even, even if you use VNC at your personal desktop, you could
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set up a gateway with our product as well, and proxy VNC, or you could proxy XDM.
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So if you have, you could set up one gateway, have 10 PCs behind, and proxy that XDM utilizing
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our compression, and bring that back to your desktop.
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And I don't know how much you can say about like the technique or the technology or whatever.
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I mean, is that part of how you do that sort of thing, is just like compress the heck out
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of the frames on the desktop, you know?
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Basically what we do is we break apart the active protocol, we break the images out,
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we compress them separately, so that's, you can select that level of compression too.
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We use JPEG and RGB compression for the images, and then we cache, and use some client-side
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prediction, and we use compression on the X stuff as well, yeah, it's over my head
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too.
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Yeah, completely.
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I have no idea what you just said, but it sounded really cool.
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Yeah, it is, it works really well, and go out and get it, man, machine.com.
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Yeah, thanks for the info, thanks a lot, all right, bye.
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