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Episode: 1040
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Title: HPR1040: Steam on Linux
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Source: https://hub.hackerpublicradio.org/ccdn.php?filename=/eps/hpr1040/hpr1040.mp3
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Transcribed: 2025-10-17 17:48:56
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All right, so we've heard probably just the biggest fucking news that me or you have been,
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you know, hearing rumors about for quite a while, dude.
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Yeah, it is.
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And just to say specifically since we're recording this for HPR, we've got Daughter,
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and I'm, of course, little Jonathan Blue.
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And the news we're talking about is that Daughter has finally officially announced the release,
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or at least they're working on a steam client for Linux, which they have dubbed,
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Schemed Pingwoods.
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So far, I don't know how it's gonna pan out.
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Definitely from reading the blog post, it's fairly functional right now.
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Yeah, the blog post basically states that left for dead is what's in the works,
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and then porting the other title.
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Left for dead too.
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Left for dead too.
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But once they have that working, I mean, it's smooth sailing from there.
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Now, do we know if left for dead too, rain on the steam engine, or was that something else?
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I'm not certain.
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I want to say yes.
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It is a steam engine.
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So if you look on the steam engine, that means they're porting the steam engine over,
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and that would mean a lot of valve specific titles would not be too far behind either.
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Yeah, yeah.
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But there was one piece of news in that that I think we should mention is that they say they're writing this,
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or writing it for Ubuntu.
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And I think there's some concerns that could come up out of that pretty quickly for some people.
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Oh, yes, especially me.
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I'm using Savion all the time.
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And I don't really plan to switch.
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Now, as I mentioned, my disk takes for Unity.
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And that's where I think we would have to wonder what they're doing.
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No account was a pretty big project a while ago that they wrote specifically to Ubuntu
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and they used Unity specific features.
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Well, that was my next thing.
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I really don't know if valve is going to be...
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I really... I hope that valve is not going to be so mean to us to make a...
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I mean, I can understand that they want to bind themselves to canonical for now because it's newsworthy.
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But I really hope that they wouldn't be so mean as to make a client that has Unity down.
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Yeah.
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So we'll just have to kind of watch that part alone and see what they do because if it's using Unity specific hooks,
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that means only something running.
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Unity will ever be able to run this.
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And we can't forget that also...
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One else has Unity but Ubuntu.
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Yeah, but this could also be just valve making a handshake deal with Ubuntu for the moment
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for their distribution platform, which they are.
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Not just their store or reposer would have you, but just the fact that they're probably the most widely used
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that's probably next right now.
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Indeed.
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So it could come bundled in there.
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It could come bundled in the ISO now with Ubuntu with that deal.
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Well, I doubt they bundled it directly and but they would make it available through the Ubuntu store.
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Yeah.
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But part of the reason this was happening is a while ago, Valve actually listed some major concerns
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about the future of gaming on Windows with the upcoming Windows 8.
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And I think that's part of where this whole move for a Linux client is coming out of.
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I want to know something.
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My speculation might be that they won't write something specifically to Unity
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because they are making this move, I think, in part because of the tie-ins of Windows 8
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and they're trying to avoid some of that.
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So I could imagine they wouldn't make those same moves here coming to the Linux platform.
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Yes. Well, I mean, as long as it's not Unity bound, we might see community efforts being made to bring steam around.
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I mean, I don't particularly use Savion for gaming, but I do think that, like, I mean, according to them,
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Savion is intended to be a gaming platform of the form, like that's the whole point of Savion.
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It's like cutting edge yet stable Linux for gaming.
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I don't know. I, as I was saying before, I really like steam being brought to Linux is a big deal.
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Not because they're such a big dog in the gaming community, but more, the influence alone is going to help because it's not just steam developing games on there.
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I mean, I really think that steam kind of brought immigrant indie gaming to the forefront because a lot of indie games get released on the steam platform.
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Yeah. Steam is probably the biggest centralized marketplace for gaming at this point.
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Yeah. I mean, we have the Sora, and I think the Sora is already on Linux.
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And I, I slightly think that this steam, the steam move could be sort of like, you know, maybe the Sora is on to something.
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And the fact that going back to what you said there, the fact that you think that they're scared of Windows 8, so to speak,
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that doesn't stay much for me because if I'm scared of going to Windows 8 to play games, and Valve is scared to go to Windows 8 to play games, what does that say for game companies?
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I don't know. Like that's not, I mean, I'm not the only one with these concerns.
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Well, part of steam, Valve's concerns with gaming on Windows 8 is their steam platform, not just their games.
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Yeah. And I mean, I think a lot of people are not happy with the whole metro interface. Nobody wants a mobile phone desktop.
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I mean, my daughter is even upset over just mentioning Windows 8 phone UI.
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Right. I mean, I think that the metro interfaces is all well and good. I'm not going to say it's the most fantastic thing I've ever used on the Xbox.
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But in the Xbox, on the Xbox, it works a lot better than what the new Xbox experience was.
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But I mean, not something I think I want on a computer.
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I did, I am running Windows 8 on a computer here, and I haven't touched it in months. Like I got that developer release when that came out.
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If I really, I don't know. I don't know. I don't want to say anything premature, but I want to say that like adding applications to that metro interface is not as nice as I'd like it to be.
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Like it's not hard or nothing. It's not overly difficult. I mean, we may be more technical than others, but for me at least it's not difficult to add a new button to that menu.
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But it's not very clean. Like icons go missing and things. And it's just not as nice looking as a app that is Metro-enabled already.
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So, and the fact that every time I hit that Windows Start button, that metro interface comes up. I just want to puke.
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It's not. I want to get away from that. And it's, I don't know. I mean, I already don't like the Windows interface with the Start button and all.
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And then they're going to throw like a whole full screen over everything. I don't know.
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Yeah. Well, let's go back to the original topic that's got us going here. Final thoughts or overall thoughts on this moved by Valve dev finally after years of speculation releasing a Linux client.
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I don't know. I really, in the end, I just think it's great because I mean, I'm running Windows now, but I mostly play Minecraft.
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And then recently I bought like Borderlands and Saints Row 3 on Steam. You know, the Steam sales are amazing.
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But that's what's keeping me from going to Linux on some of my desktops here. It's not, it's not so nice to not have those games around when I take for them over here.
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But I can actually like make the move to Linux and forget Windows forever. And that, but.
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And I have to say my final thoughts. It's fantastic to hear, you know, Valve finally announcing what's been rumored on and off for what three, four years now at least.
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Yeah. And, you know, to hear that they've got something that is apparently pretty much a fully functional client up and going is great.
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I am really hoping though that it's not tied to Unity specific or some bizarre Ubuntu specific thing like we found with one screen recording utility in the past.
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Yeah, at least.
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But one other thing that I think some people will want to pay attention to if it's a concern for them, this means that some form of a DRM system will be coming along with it.
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So, I'm willing to live with this option, but it's something that, you know, we'll just have to, you know, realize it coming.
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Yeah, it's going to happen, but especially with if EA gets behind this at all.
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We'll see if their own system now is sold or run, but that can be a completely different subject for another day.
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For sure.
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All right. Well, I'm paying this recording now.
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